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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80068476  United States02/20/2021 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76450781 United States02/20/2021 08:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Going to bump this back up one last time since I added a nice summary which some might like to see (and maybe use for rounding out their personal preps) Quoting: Midwest Skeptic  Here in Oklahoma, I have been using up my stash of quick homemade fire starters to get the wood stove cranked up in the AM's. Easy to make and uses resources a lot of folks just trash: Save old toilet paper rolls. Save the used wax from old candle stubs or from (as in my case) used scented candle wax. Used candle wax cubes stuffed into the middle of the double toilet paper rolls (the bent inner one keeps the cubes in place). Add one of these to a tinder pile, or two of these to a stack of small logs and (almost) instant crackling fire. I make mine out of dryer lint and the paper tube. You can also add old dryer sheets to the tube also. Rather than throwing these things away ... recycle and use to start your fires. Dryer lint. Genius! |
Crunch62
 User ID: 80039045 United States02/20/2021 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good post! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79955478 Only suggestion is if you're using propane for cooking may as well use it for heating too. No need for multiple fuel. Same with ammunition, I try and keep it universal for handgun and rifle. The most famous advice about firearms advertisised a rifle in .22 for small game, something in a .30 for reaching out and a 12g shotgun for close in. Nothing about a handgun though I am thinking of getting a 9mm. Open carry at this point, CCL maybe in the future. MI is so weird about sidearms. Actual Americans are encouraged to emigrate from the People's Republic of MI to a civilized area, like Texas, or Florida. I'll take my chances here. Between global warming and a mini ice age I can handle both here. It's just a matter of tooling up. Edit: A sidearm is a way to fight your way back to a longarm. That is why I got my longarms first. Would be interested in a discussion about which sidearm is best. 1911 in .45 ACP I've been married so long, I don't even look both ways when I cross the street. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79234724 United States02/20/2021 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good thread and good advice. Re butane and kerosene cookers... none are completely idiot proof so have a fire extinguisher close by. Put your butane canister with you in your sleeping bag..or stuff it up your jacket.. and it will work in sub freezing temps. Quoting: Kiwi25 You can get mantle light fittings for the butane canisters and maybe radiant heaters too. A lamp, even a kerosene lamp also produces heat. A coleman lamp puts out a LOT of heat. Miles Stair...milesstair.com is the go to site for wicks and all things kerosene. Heaps of useful advice on heaters. Even discussion on using diesel in kerosene heaters and lamps. In an emergency.. diesel is a lot more available and cheaper than kerosene. In an emergency you can use gasoline in coleman cookers and lanterns. Carbon monoxide is an issue with all "burning" things indoors. Be aware of that, and vent.. and or have a detector. Stay safe..do some reading.. learn the old ways... Miles has a sister site called End Times Report: [link to endtimesreport.com] Plan on being there for a few hours. It is dense with information. Highly recommended. |
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| Lance Roseman From BC
User ID: 77547432  Canada02/20/2021 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bump for the Here2Help peoples! God bless ya'll. If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell. “It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79234724 United States02/20/2021 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is a known FACT that Butane stoves DO NOT Work in temps below freezing! The Isobutane(80%butane/20%propane) stoves(completely different stoves)work well down to about 15F-20F degrees. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72497887 White gas stoves are good at temps found anywhere on planet Earth. Easily melt snow for drinking water at -40F. I just got a another Titanium pot yesterday for my three MSR Dragonfly stoves. I have a couple Whisperlite International stoves too. Propane can have problems below 40°F, as well. White gas stoves are great, but not for use inside. Most of Asia uses kerosene cookstoves that can be used indoors. St. Paul Mercantile sells some nice ones: [link to stpaulmercantile.com (secure)] Propane(Profane, I'm Not a fan) does NOT have problems at 40F. As much as I dislike propane it functions fine to 10F or maybe 0F. Stove guys think of propane as profane. No fun at all. (snip) My experience has been that propane begins to get fussy towards freezing temps and below. Trouble lighting, staying lit, low or no pressure, bottle angle critical. Troublesome enough that I went to kero and never looked back. Still use it in the warmer months, and it is very convenient. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79234724 United States02/20/2021 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll take my chances here. Between global warming and a mini ice age I can handle both here. It's just a matter of tooling up. Quoting: Lowkey Cyberpunk Edit: A sidearm is a way to fight your way back to a longarm. That is why I got my longarms first. Would be interested in a discussion about which sidearm is best. That’s a can of worms that might best be left for a thread of its very own. |
| Crunch62
User ID: 80039045 United States02/20/2021 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is a known FACT that Butane stoves DO NOT Work in temps below freezing! The Isobutane(80%butane/20%propane) stoves(completely different stoves)work well down to about 15F-20F degrees. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72497887 White gas stoves are good at temps found anywhere on planet Earth. Easily melt snow for drinking water at -40F. I just got a another Titanium pot yesterday for my three MSR Dragonfly stoves. I have a couple Whisperlite International stoves too. Propane can have problems below 40°F, as well. White gas stoves are great, but not for use inside. Most of Asia uses kerosene cookstoves that can be used indoors. St. Paul Mercantile sells some nice ones: [link to stpaulmercantile.com (secure)] Propane(Profane, I'm Not a fan) does NOT have problems at 40F. As much as I dislike propane it functions fine to 10F or maybe 0F. Stove guys think of propane as profane. No fun at all. (snip) My experience has been that propane begins to get fussy towards freezing temps and below. Trouble lighting, staying lit, low or no pressure, bottle angle critical. Troublesome enough that I went to kero and never looked back. Still use it in the warmer months, and it is very convenient. We used to keep the propane bottles at the foot of our sleeping bags when camping. Easier to light when they are warm. I've been married so long, I don't even look both ways when I cross the street. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79234724 United States02/20/2021 08:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79234724 Propane can have problems below 40°F, as well. White gas stoves are great, but not for use inside. Most of Asia uses kerosene cookstoves that can be used indoors. St. Paul Mercantile sells some nice ones: [link to stpaulmercantile.com (secure)] Propane(Profane, I'm Not a fan) does NOT have problems at 40F. As much as I dislike propane it functions fine to 10F or maybe 0F. Stove guys think of propane as profane. No fun at all. (snip) My experience has been that propane begins to get fussy towards freezing temps and below. Trouble lighting, staying lit, low or no pressure, bottle angle critical. Troublesome enough that I went to kero and never looked back. Still use it in the warmer months, and it is very convenient. We used to keep the propane bottles at the foot of our sleeping bags when camping. Easier to light when they are warm. That’s good advice! When I was using them in the cold I never had an opportunity to warm them up. |
| Crunch62
User ID: 80039045 United States02/20/2021 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll take my chances here. Between global warming and a mini ice age I can handle both here. It's just a matter of tooling up. Quoting: Lowkey Cyberpunk Edit: A sidearm is a way to fight your way back to a longarm. That is why I got my longarms first. Would be interested in a discussion about which sidearm is best. That’s a can of worms that might best be left for a thread of its very own. I have a .22 pistol. It goes 'pop'. I have a .38 revolver. It goes 'crack'. I have a 9mm pistol. It goes 'bang'. I have a .45 ACP 1911. It goes BOOM! I've been married so long, I don't even look both ways when I cross the street. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79234724 United States02/20/2021 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll take my chances here. Between global warming and a mini ice age I can handle both here. It's just a matter of tooling up. Quoting: Lowkey Cyberpunk Edit: A sidearm is a way to fight your way back to a longarm. That is why I got my longarms first. Would be interested in a discussion about which sidearm is best. That’s a can of worms that might best be left for a thread of its very own. I have a .22 pistol. It goes 'pop'. I have a .38 revolver. It goes 'crack'. I have a 9mm pistol. It goes 'bang'. I have a .45 ACP 1911. It goes BOOM! That about covers it!  |
| Use your brian... moran!
User ID: 80064719 United States02/20/2021 09:32 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tag for some great ideas to add to my list. Fuck what the flag by my name says, I'm from Texas! Wake up & smell reality. I have to much blood in my caffeine stream! "Oh look--another basement dwelling loser who ain't had pussy since pussy had him." Beans.N.Rice “The thing about smart mother fuckers is that sometimes, they sound like crazy mother fuckers to stupid mother fuckers...” Robert Kirkman |
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| Lowkey Cyberpunk
User ID: 77651099 United States02/20/2021 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Lowkey Cyberpunk The most famous advice about firearms advertisised a rifle in .22 for small game, something in a .30 for reaching out and a 12g shotgun for close in. Nothing about a handgun though I am thinking of getting a 9mm. Open carry at this point, CCL maybe in the future. MI is so weird about sidearms. Actual Americans are encouraged to emigrate from the People's Republic of MI to a civilized area, like Texas, or Florida. I'll take my chances here. Between global warming and a mini ice age I can handle both here. It's just a matter of tooling up. Edit: A sidearm is a way to fight your way back to a longarm. That is why I got my longarms first. Would be interested in a discussion about which sidearm is best. If you do an advanced search for user name "Lester" you will find any information you are looking for. Holy fuck, I have some reading to do. The other option that I walked into this conversation lead to a .357 that also can shoot .38 "Yes, yes. Zathras is used to being beast of burden to other people's needs. Very sad life. Probably have very sad death. But, at least there is symmetry." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79810565 United States02/20/2021 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Having a hot shower/hot water is a big plus, although you can heat water on the kerosene stove but these are really slick Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80065635 [link to www.joolca.com (secure)]  |
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| Lance Roseman From BC
User ID: 77547432 Canada02/21/2021 07:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did this get pined already? It should be and I can? If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell. “It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5708251 United States02/21/2021 07:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Having a hot shower/hot water is a big plus, although you can heat water on the kerosene stove but these are really slick Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80065635 [link to www.joolca.com (secure)] Solar shower is easier if you love in a sunny area. Fill a black bag with water...put it outside in the sun, amd you have hot water. |
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| Alsabiades
User ID: 76201830 United States02/21/2021 07:55 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's all good advice. Once you've been through a few events, you'll get rather good at it. The poor and young folks generally have to rely on their relatives and friends until they either have the funds or knowledge. Hell, I could survive virtually any calamity. I grow my own corn and wheat...have grinders to make corn meal and flour too. 100% self-sufficient. And this is what everyone should be shooting for...I have a 20 acre lake and creeks for water and a Berkie water system. Alsabiades |
| Lance Roseman From BC
User ID: 77547432 Canada02/21/2021 08:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | good morning lance, are you up too early or way too late? LOL It is up early here. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80068476 Late...5am...waiting for the sunrise. So, I think I might compile all the decent prepper threads into or onto Pooka's thread since she is passionate about her thread. This is a great thread, one does not often find alt-toiletry. So kudo's to OP. If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell. “It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79738370 United States02/21/2021 08:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll take my chances here. Between global warming and a mini ice age I can handle both here. It's just a matter of tooling up. Quoting: Lowkey Cyberpunk Edit: A sidearm is a way to fight your way back to a longarm. That is why I got my longarms first. Would be interested in a discussion about which sidearm is best. That’s a can of worms that might best be left for a thread of its very own. I have a .22 pistol. It goes 'pop'. I have a .38 revolver. It goes 'crack'. I have a 9mm pistol. It goes 'bang'. I have a .45 ACP 1911. It goes BOOM! I have a Remington Tactical Shotty. If there are intruders in the home you just chamber a round. It goes 'Holy shit..let's get the fuck out of here'. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78831389 United States02/21/2021 08:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most would not have access to kerosene in that emergency. First best option is a gas generator to keep some level of electric heat on and not freeze pipes. Tips for newbies: Do not put the generator in the living room. Put it in the driveway and run a drop cord. Always handy to have a siphon in hand too so you can siphon gas out of your car or your neighbors car if you let them charge their electronics. |
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| Lance Roseman From BC
User ID: 77547432 Canada02/21/2021 08:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Having had experience with a cassette toilet, I much prefer just digging a hole. For comfort, a 5 gallon bucket with a toilet seat and some cat litter. Dump contents into hole. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3569297 cat litter sounds better WTF? [link to sun-mar.com (secure)] I've not shit in water in a few decades, if you are afraid of your own shit, you are lost. JUmp out of the toilet bullshit. Crap link, mines the Excel...fucking piss outside and have chamber pots. Last Edited by The Oddity on 02/21/2021 08:21 AM If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell. “It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77625234 United States02/21/2021 08:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds like many of you are apartment dwelling urbanites or city/suburban folk who have no outdoorsmanship skills. Damn we have owned everything on that list and a whole lot more for years, then again, we camp/hunt and fish year round so we're always ready. Didn't read the whole thread but, don't forget about the usable water in your water heater. I feel for people who are at the mercy of the utility companies and city services, makes me realize how good we have it out here. If we lose power I can hit the transfer switch and fire the generator, pump our own water and stay warm. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80068476 United States02/21/2021 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is how I make an outdoor toilet. Secure a sturdy smooth branch between two trees at sitting level, with a hole a few feet deep under it, another branch on the back side of the trees a little higher at back rest level. Keep the TP in a coffee can, save all the dirt from the hole on one side for covering the dung, a tarp around it for privacy and weather protection. It will naturally compost and last a long time. |
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