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the mandelbrot set and consciousness constants

 
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yeah I've just gotten started with it it seems pretty powerful. I hope I figure out how to use it the way I want to
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I like To create my OWN rhythmic & Music and I have been playing the didgeridoo for 20 years maybe more lol I don't remember the year I start..!
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yeah I've just gotten started with it it seems pretty powerful. I hope I figure out how to use it the way I want to
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I like To create my OWN rhythmic & Music and I have been playing the didgeridoo for 20 years maybe more lol I don't remember the year I start..!
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my Kind of rhythmic wobble Bounce Breathing Jaw Oscillatory Ventilation this type rhythm for a long time playing period give you a free psychedelic trance mood on the Didgeridoo lol



rhythmic wobble Bounce Breathing diaphragm

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Just waiting for lol ac to pop up and engage me in endless debate about all this
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bifurcation is both a chemical and atom response. in biology it is called mitosis. in chemistry is is called ionic bonding. in physics it is called covalent bonding.

the basis for any energy structure is one of attraction bonding, growth and release. the pattern is evident in the periodic chart.

in standard physics the maximum number of orbits an element can have is eight. any element with eight orbits is unstable and becomes radioactive, chaotic. the more electrons you stuff into the eight orbit the more unstable the element becomes. this lines up with with mandelbr0t set sort of. no real mystery! lol

the mystery becomes apparent in the quantum theory where any element can accommodate and donot restrict the number of electron per shell orbit, ie: in quantum a hydrogen atom would not be restricted to 2 electrons per it's single orbit shell. this means that it's capacity for a number of infinite negative electrons could theoretically outweigh it's single proton core, giving it a energy signature equal to that of light itself! lol

this points to an underling structure that is not chaotic in the least, but totally sustainable as is light at rest! put that in your underwear! lol
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in the fourth dimension does time become stable?

it's possible! lol

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lol
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in the fourth dimension does time become stable?

it's possible! lol


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pretty sure it does, but something can be stable without ever repeating
I guess it's up to you whether you think infinite is chaotic
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Are we light or is light us?
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We are both simultaneously.

Non-locality says that every particle has a connection with another somewhere else in the universe.

We have lots of particles in our bodies.

They're all in constant contact with their partners somewhere over the rainbow...

Makes sense of the experience of 'going into the light' at death, doesn't it?

And where else would God be but in the Light?
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Just waiting for lol ac to pop up and engage me in endless debate about all this
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bifurcation is both a chemical and atom response. in biology it is called mitosis. in chemistry is is called ionic bonding. in physics it is called covalent bonding.

the basis for any energy structure is one of attraction bonding, growth and release. the pattern is evident in the periodic chart.

in standard physics the maximum number of orbits an element can have is eight. any element with eight orbits is unstable and becomes radioactive, chaotic. the more electrons you stuff into the eight orbit the more unstable the element becomes. this lines up with with mandelbr0t set sort of. no real mystery! lol

the mystery becomes apparent in the quantum theory where any element can accommodate and donot restrict the number of electron per shell orbit, ie: in quantum a hydrogen atom would not be restricted to 2 electrons per it's single orbit shell. this means that it's capacity for a number of infinite negative electrons could theoretically outweigh it's single proton core, giving it a energy signature equal to that of light itself! lol

this points to an underling structure that is not chaotic in the least, but totally sustainable as is light at rest! put that in your underwear! lol
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Well, chaotic can indicate different ideas.
It can indicate that prediction is impossible because there is no order...

But it can also be chaotic because we have no way to accurately iterate into the future of of the system for very long before conditions change. The weather is unstable, and initial conditions are extremely tentative beyond the daily forecast.

Isn't instability just the tendency to change? in the geometry of a fractal, we have obvious symmetry, a pattern, order. but we also have an endless varieties of ways for the fractal to traverse itself but never repeat. That is orderly but it is also very chaotic. we know what it looks like but we might not know where to find it again.
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Structures of order are broken down for energy, which is expended to create change, so that we can update our cells with new energy from old order. We die into life and are born

When everything ends, the implosion is sucked into itself so far it begins to expand into a seed and a fruit at the same time

Order and chaos are actually attractor fields of each other.
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Just waiting for lol ac to pop up and engage me in endless debate about all this
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 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


bifurcation is both a chemical and atom response. in biology it is called mitosis. in chemistry is is called ionic bonding. in physics it is called covalent bonding.

the basis for any energy structure is one of attraction bonding, growth and release. the pattern is evident in the periodic chart.

in standard physics the maximum number of orbits an element can have is eight. any element with eight orbits is unstable and becomes radioactive, chaotic. the more electrons you stuff into the eight orbit the more unstable the element becomes. this lines up with with mandelbr0t set sort of. no real mystery! lol

the mystery becomes apparent in the quantum theory where any element can accommodate and donot restrict the number of electron per shell orbit, ie: in quantum a hydrogen atom would not be restricted to 2 electrons per it's single orbit shell. this means that it's capacity for a number of infinite negative electrons could theoretically outweigh it's single proton core, giving it a energy signature equal to that of light itself! lol

this points to an underling structure that is not chaotic in the least, but totally sustainable as is light at rest! put that in your underwear! lol
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Well, chaotic can indicate different ideas.
It can indicate that prediction is impossible because there is no order...

But it can also be chaotic because we have no way to accurately iterate into the future of of the system for very long before conditions change. The weather is unstable, and initial conditions are extremely tentative beyond the daily forecast.

Isn't instability just the tendency to change? in the geometry of a fractal, we have obvious symmetry, a pattern, order. but we also have an endless varieties of ways for the fractal to traverse itself but never repeat. That is orderly but it is also very chaotic. we know what it looks like but we might not know where to find it again.
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look at order as bonds, look at electrons as bound to the hydrogen nucleus. if the quantum number of the electron increases to infinity it breaks it bond to the h nucleus. the increase of the electron's quantum number as it goes from being bound to infinite energy, at it's maximum potential, breaks free as charge(light). there is no chaos, order remains in the form of a hydrogen ion nucleus and a neutralizes charge that has release it potential as light. energy is not lost, and the universe has not atrophied! lol

the uncertainty principle regarding velocity and location
is a mute point in the argument between order and chaos, by the fact that energy conservation remain intact by thermal equalization. thermal equalization insures that nothing is lost to entropy(chaos)!

chaos implies without process, order is process driven
in that a systematic evolutionary nature is in place!

i prefer my description of reality to yours! lol
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Structures of order are broken down for energy, which is expended to create change, so that we can update our cells with new energy from old order. We die into life and are born

When everything ends, the implosion is sucked into itself so far it begins to expand into a seed and a fruit at the same time

Order and chaos are actually attractor fields of each other.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


there is no chaos, only a systematic evolutionary process that is inclined to order in spite of a temporary entropy in physical vehicles! lol
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impermanence is not chaos. chaos is not an orderly entropy process! entropy is an orderly thermo equalization! lol
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consciousness is a constant process. do you believe that consciousness is a product of chaos? lol
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consciousness is a constant process. do you believe that consciousness is a product of chaos? lol
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I believe that without chaos, the conscious experience would have no dynamic because its regularity would become uncanny.

To give an example, games without random number generators modeled after a true randomness system just have a flatter feel

I think you are not giving probability a fair slice of the pie...
We have freedom because we can break order and change it at times
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consciousness is a constant process. do you believe that consciousness is a product of chaos? lol
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I believe that without chaos, the conscious experience would have no dynamic because its regularity would become uncanny.

To give an example, games without random number generators modeled after a true randomness system just have a flatter feel

I think you are not giving probability a fair slice of the pie...
We have freedom because we can break order and change it at times
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


Chaos is a form of order, we don't have the feelers to decipher it, nothing more

Free will ultimately has no need for disorder, uncanny as that might be

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The fractal dimension D describes the amounts detail of a pattern changes with the scale of measurement. Or alternatively: the space filling capacity of a pattern. The number is a fraction between the topological dimension and the next higher dimension.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Also worth a thought: Humans are spatial 4 dimensionally thinking. Why? Because to perceive an N-dimensional object the brain has to imaginarily think in then N+1 dimension. Example: A 2d world on the surface of sheet of paper. Draw a square into it. The 2d-beings inside the surface of the paper would only see a shaded line in their world. They can never see the square from a view point above the sheet of paper, though a square is a 2d object. [this idea of the 4d human thinking was brought up in an old video presented by a Mathematician I could not yet find again on youtube]

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And there, I learned today that according to the CIA, the Mandelbrot set is not inescapable after all.

Soo...the zefir yetzorah and Ezekiel talk about the divine chariot as the vehicle of God's and godlike men
And we are also learning about the difference between a space ship blasting off to the moon with rocket fuel and falling between an atom into the quantum realm which precedes it
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2 paths you can go by
the future that our environment takes us into and the future that we cause our environment to take us into
is what our cia tell us
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[link to blogs.orlandosentinel.com]

Unlike any american president before him, Barack Obama and his intimate advisers follow/interact with symbols and signs of different meaning and consequence.

The global nature of this policy embraces awareness prompted by our sharing this universe with life forms not of earth origin.
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When our solar system first encountered the effects of the entry into tour solar system of highly charged, magnetised, dusty plasma from the 'local fluff' plasma cloud in the latter part of the 1800`s, a marked increase in humans contact with non human intelligence was observed as well as fluctuations of our sun, which the Carrington effect Solar Storm of 1859 was the most notable.
Tesla, Crowley, Steiner, Russell, Blavatsky, Jung are some of the high profile examples of the epidemic of esoteric experience rampant within the dominant Abrahamic technological cultures of the West.

THE 19TH CENTURY SPIRITUALIST
AND OCCULT REVIVAL
in England and Europe
[link to blessedquietness.com]

Germany progressed non human communication and translation further than other nations in the 1930`s to 1945.

In 1945 USA and UK were aware of the following.

1) The information being received was accurate in the nature of it`s physics but because the physics were unlike any humans had imagined that our universe was comprised of, awareness of them transformed what humans are.

Awareness made it impossible to accept previous human formed lifestyles and beliefs.

2) Awareness of any part of this information received prompted what became known as "non local conscious" to engage and awareness increased via synchronicity , expressed as instant knowing, following experience of related events.

In other words the person began to think, express , anticipate and expect differently.

3) Because the information originates from intelligences which experience the same environment as ourselves in a manner that is unimaginable, we can not imagine the lifestyle that the information we receive forms.

Hence we can not know our future.

We can only know it is not what we once imagined.

To address this the following steps were taken .

The Office of Strategic Services (OSS) was utilized and expanded globally in the form of the CIA to locate and observe world wide individuals receiving communication

Their information was given to The Armed Forces Security Agency (AFSA], later to be known as the NSA, for translation and projection of outcome.

By the late 60`s it was considered "safe" to plan a global communications system, accessible to all, which in it`self ,acted as the interface for incoming non human information and it`s expression including, the synchronization of non local conscious effects.that result.

This is the simple outline to the complex situation we are now within
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And there, I learned today that according to the CIA, the Mandelbrot set is not inescapable after all.

Soo...the zefir yetzorah and Ezekiel talk about the divine chariot as the vehicle of God's and godlike men
And we are also learning about the difference between a space ship blasting off to the moon with rocket fuel and falling between an atom into the quantum realm which precedes it
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


2 paths you can go by
the future that our environment takes us into and the future that we cause our environment to take us into
is what our cia tell us
 Quoting: aether
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consciousness is a constant process. do you believe that consciousness is a product of chaos? lol
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I believe that without chaos, the conscious experience would have no dynamic because its regularity would become uncanny.

To give an example, games without random number generators modeled after a true randomness system just have a flatter feel

I think you are not giving probability a fair slice of the pie...
We have freedom because we can break order and change it at times
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you can only break yourself! your experiences should be
evident to you! lol

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consciousness is probably defined by its architecture in some way, even if only purported exceptionals can see auras on the visible spectrum. we still manage to signal an overall impression to others of our state of being, without fail, although sincerity may vary. this comes from a lot of micro cues, but I also think it comes from a subtler intuition which reacts viscerally, not a product of reason but an amalgam of a background process of integration that trigger emotional responses more broadly

we assume that if I have a reaction to someone, it's probably not fair to say other people will all have the same reaction. it's certainly safer to assume that our own biases will affect our impression of a person and their aura. but certain information is rarely subjective, and is generally an agreed upon quality of a specific person.


the characteristic of charisma tends to be immediately intuitable, for example. Charisma is both a state of being that alters consciousness and a causal force in personality development (when you tend to win people over, it may foster narcissism, or extraversion, ect). but
charisma is also a detectible psychic oscillation. there is an inherent mesmerism in the bearer of charisma, an ability to compel the affections of others, whether or not it is intentional.

I don't think our "aura" broadcasts discrete personality traits. But I think our "aura" DOES broadcast the affectations guiding the traits we have.

Fear, for example, is a state of being with its own frequency and experiential qualities. When we feel it, others notice because it is being broadcasted energetically. Strong emotions influence an aura, but so do calculated facades.

tuning into empathy is a universal human ability, but one of degrees. Empathy is universal, but the apprehension of empathy as a mind reading muscle is mainly trivialized. notably high emotional sensitivity corollate to extrasensory perception as a whole because both are extensions of receptivity

as a configuration with its own dimensionality and architecture, consciousness has a "dark" signal we can't currently measure, but seems to have fractal and self similar symmetries

If you look into Chariot mysticism, the application of consciousness as a vehicle begins to be clear. If hypothetically, consciousness was not local to the region of the brain but rather merely entangled with the brain, than hypothetically you could be conscious to experiences outside of your material coordinates. If consciousness can be seen this way, the paranormal ceases to be para-.

a chariot of consciousness is a directed, constructed evocation of natural bioenergetic patterns. this is the merkavah wisdom, the "craft" of interdimensional experience. while the intricacies of the merkavah shape don't have to be understood to be invoked, it is worth noting the properties of the merkavah shape seems to imply something about our most basic organization as sentient creatures

[imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)]

this is probably what is meant by escaping to 0, it is a method of creating an energetic awareness portal that is dislocated entirely from neurological bounds - it is upon another order of experience, beneath the planck, towards the quantum, and yet which is eternally accessible because it is our source. that metaphor aptly represents the idea of zen in a nutshell - the ever available realization which never comes and never goes, but "heels" occasionally into the totality of apprehension
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the Ark of Truth IS a stargate, when we are an ark unto ourselves
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missing bridge to understand how one infinitesimal microscopic particle causes a massive subjective and in some cases collective alteration in consciousness is an answer that could revolutionize reality entirely.
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maybe its magnetic spin me up spin me down ... :)
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Towards this end, we use recent work on the psychophysiology of intuitive perception and
the principles of quantum holography to develop a theory to explain how implicit information
about a future event (such as a potential future business opportunity) can be accessed by the body’s
psychophysiological systems as intuitive information. Drawing on the principles of quantum
holography, the theory explains how information about a future event is spectrally enfolded at
the quantum level in the movement of energy, as an implicit field of information which exists
as a domain apart from space and time. Focused emotional attention directed to the object of
interest (such as a potential future business opportunity) attunes the psychophysiological systems
to the quantum level of the object, which contains holographically-encoded information on the
object’s future potential. The body’s perception of such implicit information about the object’s
future is experienced as an intuition.


[link to researchbank.swinburne.edu.au (secure)]



(remember the planck length? it's the scale of the quantum foam)





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