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Someone show me where the word Rapture can be found in the bible

 
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Matthew 24:40-41
40Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.

Luke 17:34-35
34 i tell you, on that night two people will be in one bed; one will be taken and the other left. 35Two women will be grinding grain together; one will be taken and the other left."
 Quoting: 3643297


"Enoch was raptured before judgment while Noah remained and was preserved through the judgment.
Elijah was raptured while Elisha remained behind."
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Where does it say that?

Gen 5:23 So all the days of Enoch were three hundred and sixty-five years.


Gen 5:24 And Enoch walked with God; and he was not, for God took him.

God took him but it does not say where. Also it says "all the days of" like he is no longer alive.
 Quoting: Achduke7


Heb 11:5 
By faith Enoch was translated (G3346) that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated (G3346) him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. 

Strong's Greek: 3346. metatithemi -- I transfer, change, to turn one thing into another, to turn about, figuratively, to transmute

1Co 15:52 
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed (G236). 

Strong's Greek: 236. allassó -- to change, alter, exchange, transform, to cause one thing to cease and another to take its place, to exchange one thing for another, to transform
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Interesting the word Paul used for Enoch is the same as removed, carried, deserted, etc. but not the same as Changed to what happens to our bodies.

I think that Enoch was definitely carried away but I would not say he was resurrected at that time since the Bible clearly states Christ was the first to rise from the dead.

So if Enoch had not risen from the dead had he died before Christ or was he still alive?

The Bible definitely makes it seem like he had died. Maybe not a normal death but still passing from living to death.

Gen 5:23 So all the days of Enoch were three hundred and sixty-five years.
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I can’t show you the word rapture but the remnant and the 144,000 will be in their bodies at the end of the tribulations in the Jordan wilderness. 144,000 don’t cry for them.


15Thus saith the LORD; A voice was heard in Ramah, lamentation, and bitter weeping; Rahel weeping for her children refused to be comforted for her children, because they were not.

16Thus saith the LORD; Refrain thy voice from weeping, and thine eyes from tears: for thy work shall be rewarded, saith the LORD; and they shall come again from the land of the enemy.

17And there is hope in thine end, saith the LORD, that thy children shall come again to their own border.
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Only a lazy Christian refuses to look up the original language and refuses to study the Bible. How difficult is it now with all the fee software and websites to find the word harpazo?
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Only a lazy Christian refuses to look up the original language and refuses to study the Bible. How difficult is it now with all the fee software and websites to find the word harpazo?
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The word harpazo is there but the whole idea of the rapture doctrine as defined by the earliest dispensationalists is extra biblical.
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Dispensationalists are heretics.
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Christ did not die for your sins to start with.. the creation does not work that way... he came here to teach truth... and not lies. There is no rapture in the bible...And the bible was corrupted anyway.
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In the name of our Lord and Savior JESUS CHRIST - I rebuke you satan and all of you minions!

Get thee hence!
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Jesus is crystal clear the Harpazo happens "after the Tribulation" in Mattew 24. Anyone saying differently is an antichrist as they oppose Jesus' own words and believe in manmade doctrines.
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Aged like fine wine.

Walking on imported air.

Medina, Ave Maria. A million and one kind of life.
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Mat 24:40 
Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken (G3880), and the other left. 

Mat 24:41 
Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken (G3880), and the other left.

Luk 17:34 
I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken (G3880), and the other shall be left. 

Luk 17:35 
Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken (G3880), and the other left. 
 
Luk 17:36 
Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken (G3880), and the other left. 

Joh 14:3 
And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take (G3880) you to be with me that you also may be where I am.

Col 2:6 
As ye have therefore taken (G3880) Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him:

1Th 2:13 
For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye taken (G3880) the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe. 

Strong's Greek: 3880. paralambanó -- to take from, to take with oneself, to join oneself with an associate, a companion, to take with one in order to carry away, to take one's betrothed to his home, to take and bring one into a place, to my companionship, where I myself dwell, associate with oneself (in any familiar or intimate act or relation)

Ooh, don't you wanna take her
Wanna make her all your own

Maria, you've gotta see her
Go insane and out of your mind
Regina, Ave Maria
A million and one candle lights

First time that the word paralambano/to take is used in the bible is when the angel tells Joseph to take Maria as his wife:

Mat 1:20 
But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take (G3880) unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. 

Mat 1:24 
Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took (G3880) unto him his wife: 

Don't you wanna make her
Ooh, don't you wanna take her home

Maria, you've gotta see her
Go insane and out of your mind
Regina, Ave Maria
A million and one candle lights

Ooh, don't you wanna break her
Ooh, don't you wanna take her home

Joseph taking Maria as his wife mirrors the moment when our Lord Jesus Christ shall take his bride the church at the marriage supper of the lamb.

Rev 19:6 
And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth. 

Rev 19:7 
Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. 

Rev 19:8 
And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. 

Rev 19:9 
And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God. 
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Withdrawn he'd sit there, stare blank into space
No sign of life would flicker on his face
Until one day he smiled, it seemed as though with pride
The wind kissed him goodbye, and then to Earth he fell

Yeah, I've left heaven behind
I am safe here in my mind
I'm free to speak with my own kind
This is my life, this is my life, I'll decide not you

Keep heaven with all its righteousness
It's not fit for living in

This is the insurrection

Yeah! I will start again
It can take forever and ever and ever and ever
But I shall win



Beyond the realms of death

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The marriage supper of the lamb is the resurrection.
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I am a non denominational Christian. I believe Jesus Christ died for my sins, was crucified on the cross, and rose from the grave. I believe in heaven and hell. I believe I am saved only by Grace.

Whith that said I dont know where I stand on the Rapture? Please tell me where that word is used one time in the bible?
 Quoting: VinoSom


The word Rapture.

I completely understand. It's not there. They take certain

scriptures and deduce this is what will happen.

As Christians, we have to keep an open mind and study

with someone who is well versed. Even then, I'm afraid

this is very controversial.

Some believe it will not happen till after the tribulation.

Others believe it will happen before.

Myself, I'm not sure because they have passages that

'could' make both items I just mentioned appear to be true.

I'm just trusting God, praying every day and night.

And asking Him to constantly intercede for me in life.

i feel that's all I can do right now, trust God the

Father and what His Son Jesus Christ did on the cross...
Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves - George Gordon Byron
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Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves - George Gordon Byron
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Right next to "Trinity", and "Circular Saw".
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Interesting the word Paul used for Enoch is the same as removed, carried, deserted, etc. but not the same as Changed to what happens to our bodies.

I think that Enoch was definitely carried away but I would not say he was resurrected at that time since the Bible clearly states Christ was the first to rise from the dead.

So if Enoch had not risen from the dead had he died before Christ or was he still alive?

The Bible definitely makes it seem like he had died. Maybe not a normal death but still passing from living to death.

Gen 5:23 So all the days of Enoch were three hundred and sixty-five years.
 Quoting: Achduke7


Beyond the realms of death

Gen 5:5 
And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died

Gen 5:8 
And all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he died

Gen 5:11 
And all the days of Enos were nine hundred and five years: and he died

Gen 5:14 

And all the days of Cainan were nine hundred and ten years: and he died

Gen 5:17 
And all the days of Mahalaleel were eight hundred ninety and five years: and he died

Gen 5:20 
And all the days of Jared were nine hundred sixty and two years: and he died

Gen 5:23 
And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years: 

Gen 5:24 
And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him. 

Gen 5:27 
And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years: and he died

Gen 5:31 
And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy and seven years: and he died

"That Enoch was raptured or translated to heaven is clear when compared with the dismal refrain “and he died” that accompanies the legacy of the other patriarchs mentioned in Genesis 5."

H-brews 11:5
By faith Enoch was taken up so that he should not see death; and he was not found because God took him up; for he obtained the witness that before his being taken up he was pleasing to God.
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Source:

"May 2009
The Rapture in History and Prophecy
Thomas D. Ice
Liberty University
Pre-Trib Research Center at Scholars Crossing"
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Dispensationalists are heretics.
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Really? Study the 7 churches in Revelation and get back to us.
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The marriage supper of the lamb is the resurrection.
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Do we eat before or after?
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I know, "rapture" & being whisked away is not in there. Neither is "trinity".
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The marriage supper of the lamb is the resurrection.
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Do we eat before or after?
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It depends how much of an insurrectionist are you planning on being.

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The word "Trinity" does not appear either. It doesn't mean that the doctrine is not core in its teaching.
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you are not in darkness . those who sleep are asleep at night! the lord with a loud voice shall go down with the trump of the cheif messenger and those sleeping , the dead, shall rise from sleep first then i am remaing alive with them shall be caught up into clouds to meet the Lord in air , and so we shall at all times be with the Lord. if one died for all, then ALL died ,and as in Adam all died, so in Christ all shall be made alive my translation with exact i am insted of the false we
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The marriage supper of the lamb is the resurrection.
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Do we eat before or after?
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Do you believe that the insurrectionists are going to let you eat cake?

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you are not in darkness . those who sleep are asleep at night! the lord with a loud voice shall go down with the trump of the cheif messenger and those sleeping , the dead, shall rise from sleep first then i am remaing alive with them shall be caught up into clouds to meet the Lord in air , and so we shall at all times be with the Lord. if one died for all, then ALL died ,and as in Adam all died, so in Christ all shall be made alive my translation with exact i am insted of the false we
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we are passed from death to life and believers do not enter into the judgement. the unbelievers of the nations are the judged dead & through Abraham and his seed Jesus christ ,all the nations & ALL the families of the EARTH shall be blessed .the unbelieving dead are judged on the last day by Jesus word he spoke according to what they have done to the least of his brethren kin ,a little child is the least,& any who recieve a child recieve jesus christ and not him but the one who sent him ,the father who if anyone does his will is jesus brother sister, mother. an women decieved by satan like eve was to believ a lie,shall be saved by giving birth to children !the lests,by their doing good to them & so as it is written ALL THE FAMILIES OF THE EARTH AND ALL THE NATIONS, SHALL BE BLESSED
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you are not in darkness . those who sleep are asleep at night! the lord with a loud voice shall go down with the trump of the cheif messenger and those sleeping , the dead, shall rise from sleep first then i am remaing alive with them shall be caught up into clouds to meet the Lord in air , and so we shall at all times be with the Lord. if one died for all, then ALL died ,and as in Adam all died, so in Christ all shall be made alive my translation with exact i am insted of the false we
 Quoting: c major 78482420


we are passed from death to life and believers do not enter into the judgement. the unbelievers of the nations are the judged dead & through Abraham and his seed Jesus christ ,all the nations & ALL the families of the EARTH shall be blessed .the unbelieving dead are judged on the last day by Jesus word he spoke according to what they have done to the least of his brethren kin ,a little child is the least,& any who recieve a child recieve jesus christ and not him but the one who sent him ,the father who if anyone does his will is jesus brother sister, mother. an women decieved by satan like eve was to believ a lie,shall be saved by giving birth to children !the lests,by their doing good to them & so as it is written ALL THE FAMILIES OF THE EARTH AND ALL THE NATIONS, SHALL BE BLESSED
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you are not in darkness . those who sleep are asleep at night! the lord with a loud voice shall go down with the trump of the cheif messenger and those sleeping , the dead, shall rise from sleep first then i am remaing alive with them shall be caught up into clouds to meet the Lord in air , and so we shall at all times be with the Lord. if one died for all, then ALL died ,and as in Adam all died, so in Christ all shall be made alive my translation with exact i am insted of the false we
 Quoting: c major 78482420


we are passed from death to life and believers do not enter into the judgement. the unbelievers of the nations are the judged dead & through Abraham and his seed Jesus christ ,all the nations & ALL the families of the EARTH shall be blessed .the unbelieving dead are judged on the last day by Jesus word he spoke according to what they have done to the least of his brethren kin ,a little child is the least,& any who recieve a child recieve jesus christ and not him but the one who sent him ,the father who if anyone does his will is jesus brother sister, mother. an women decieved by satan like eve was to believ a lie,shall be saved by giving birth to children !the lests,by their doing good to them & so as it is written ALL THE FAMILIES OF THE EARTH AND ALL THE NATIONS, SHALL BE BLESSED
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Curious. Was Kirk Cameron even awake as to what happened?
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The word "Trinity" does not appear either. It doesn't mean that the doctrine is not core in its teaching.
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18And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Matthew 28:18-20

Elohim is the oldest word for God and is plural.





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