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Someone show me where the word Rapture can be found in the bible

 
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Dispensationalism is totally abiblical. Chuck Missler serves Lucifer. Anyone who denies that Jesus is the Christ is an antichrist.
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The Beginning

(Genesis 1:1-2)

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

The Witness of John

(Malachi 3:1-5)

6There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

9That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

The Word Made His Dwelling among Us

(Psalm 84:1-12)

14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. 15John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. 16And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. 17For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. 18No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
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Only Christians fulfill that passage from John chapter one.

Chuck Missler and dispensationalists like John Hagee totally disagree.

They are antichrists.
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Only Christians fulfill that passage from John chapter one.

Chuck Missler and dispensationalists like John Hagee totally disagree.

They are antichrists.
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Well aren't you the holy self-righteous judge of all?
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Dispensationalism is totally abiblical. Chuck Missler serves Lucifer. Anyone who denies that Jesus is the Christ is an antichrist.
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Why do YOU LIE to attack a Believer in Jesus Christ?

Does it prove you super zealous and good?

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The Way, the Truth, and the Life

5Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way? 6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

7If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
John 14:5-7

Chuck Missler and John Hagee disagree. They excuse antichrists. They serve Lucifer.

I am strictly quoting the Bible.
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Chuck Missler and John Hagee believe in the secret rapture, a concept found nowhere in the Bible. They believe in the pre-tribulation rapture which is abiblical heresy.
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I am a non denominational Christian. I believe Jesus Christ died for my sins, was crucified on the cross, and rose from the grave. I believe in heaven and hell. I believe I am saved only by Grace.

Whith that said I dont know where I stand on the Rapture? Please tell me where that word is used one time in the bible?
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That word does not exist in the Bible (snatched)is
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Interesting the word Paul used for Enoch is the same as removed, carried, deserted, etc. but not the same as Changed to what happens to our bodies.

I think that Enoch was definitely carried away but I would not say he was resurrected at that time since the Bible clearly states Christ was the first to rise from the dead.

So if Enoch had not risen from the dead had he died before Christ or was he still alive?

The Bible definitely makes it seem like he had died. Maybe not a normal death but still passing from living to death.

Gen 5:23 So all the days of Enoch were three hundred and sixty-five years.
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Pass Enoch and look at Elijah, what is your take on his rapture, Elijah couldnt have resurrected before Christ so wasnt he kept translated alive in Heaven?
Cant the same apply to Enoch?

Matthew 17:3
Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus.

And how did Moses appeared at Christs transfiguration without the resurrection happening first?

2 Kings 2:1
When the Lord was about to take Elijah up to heaven in a whirlwind, Elijah and Elisha were on their way from Gilgal.

2 Kings 2:11
As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind.

Elijah wss raptured into heaven while Elisha was left behind just like what is described in Matthew:

2 Kings 2:16
“Look,” they said, “we your servants have fifty able men. Let them go and look for your master. Perhaps the Spirit of the Lord has picked him up and set him down on some mountain or in some valley.”
“No,” Elisha replied, “do not send them.”

Matthew 24:40
Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left.

Matthew 24:41
Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.

Are Enoch and Elijah the two witnesses that were kept translated alive in heaven until now?
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Bible clearly says Satan comes first,,there is no rapture when Jesus returns everyone will instantly be changed into there spirit bodies
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Not a single Early Church Father taught the pre-tribulation rapture. It is a satanic lie.

Jesus tells us in Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21 that it is after the Tribulation that the Harpazo comes. This is echoed in Revelation.

Chuck Missler is a disgusting despicable liar serving the Father of Lies.
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No pre trib rapture:

9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Zechariah 13:9

“And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.”
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No pre trib rapture:

9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Zechariah 13:9

“And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.”
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Revelation 6 9-11 kjv that was
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Thread: Defending the Pre-trib rapture **** New and Improved
Not even one person could defend the Pre-Tribulation Rapture!

Why? There is zero Biblical support for it!
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11This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. 12Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Act 4:11-12

Anyone who says differently is a LIAR. Jesus Christ alone saves.
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Chuck Missler and John Hagee believe in the secret rapture, a concept found nowhere in the Bible. They believe in the pre-tribulation rapture which is abiblical heresy.
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I believe The Pre-Tribulation Rapture and find it entirely consistent with all The Bible

and only recognized by those familiar with study of all of The Bible.

Perhaps it's not for YOU to see?

hmm


Whom will he teach knowledge?
And whom will he make to understand the message?
Those just weaned from milk?
Those just drawn from the breasts?
For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept,
Line upon line, line upon line,
Here a little, there a little.


Isaiah 28:9,10


And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.


Daniel 12:9,10
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You see? They claim it is Biblical, then actually cannot prove it with Bible verses!
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Hagee is the worst if the dispensationalists and says not to witness (share your Christian beliefs) with those from Israel or who believe a fake religion. Hagee claims they don't need Jesus.

That is demonic.
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You see? They claim it is Biblical, then actually cannot prove it with Bible verses!
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Prove?

Faith?
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Re: Someone show me where the word Rapture can be found in the bible
Matthew 24
Jesus says after the Tribulation.
Mark 13
Jesus says after the Tribulation.
Luke 21
Jesus says after the Tribulation.

Revelation
John says it is after the Tribulation.

Chuck Middler and John Hagee
Says Christians will be yanked out before te Tribulation in direct contradiction of the New Testament.
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In My Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you.
If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also.


John 14:2,3


Come, my people, enter your chambers,
And shut your doors behind you;
Hide yourself, as it were, for a little moment,
Until the indignation is past.

For behold, the LORD comes out of His place
To punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity;
The earth will also disclose her blood,
And will no more cover her slain.


Isaiah 26:20:21


Seek the LORD, all you meek of the earth,
Who have upheld His justice.
Seek righteousness, seek humility.
It may be that you will be hidden
In the day of the LORD's anger.


Zephaniah 2:3


For in the time of trouble
He shall hide me in His pavilion;
In the secret place of His tabernacle
He shall hide me;
He shall set me high upon a rock.


Psalm 27:5


"Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.
Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his master made ruler over his household, to give them food in due season?
Blessed is that servant whom his master, when he comes, will find so doing.
Assuredly, I say to you that he will make him ruler over all his goods.
But if that evil servant says in his heart, 'My master is delaying his coming,'
and begins to beat his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunkards,
the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him and at an hour that he is not aware of,
and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."


Matthew 28:44-51



For it will come as a snare
on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.
Watch therefore, and pray always
that you may be counted worthy
to escape all these things that will come to pass,
and to stand before the Son of Man.


Luke 21:34-36


so that He may establish your hearts blameless in holiness before our God and Father at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all His saints.

1Thessalonians 3:13


Because you have kept My command to persevere,
I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world,
to test those who dwell on the earth
.


Revelation 3:10


For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery,
lest you should be wise in your own opinion,
that blindness in part has happened to Israel
until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.


Romans 11:25


For in the time of trouble
He shall hide me in His pavilion;
In the secret place of His tabernacle
He shall hide me;
He shall set me high upon a rock.


Psalms 27:5



Whom will he teach knowledge?
And whom will he make to understand the message?
Those just weaned from milk?
Those just drawn from the breasts?
For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept,
Line upon line, line upon line,
Here a little, there a little.


Isaiah 28:9,10
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I am a non denominational Christian. I believe Jesus Christ died for my sins, was crucified on the cross, and rose from the grave. I believe in heaven and hell. I believe I am saved only by Grace.

Whith that said I dont know where I stand on the Rapture? Please tell me where that word is used one time in the bible?
 Quoting: VinoSom


Somehow the entire idea of a "rapture" escaped everyone for nearly 2,000 years and then...It's a false idea that started in the 1800's by a man outside the Church. What a fraud.
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Re: Someone show me where the word Rapture can be found in the bible
In My Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you.
If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also.


John 14:2,3


Come, my people, enter your chambers,
And shut your doors behind you;
Hide yourself, as it were, for a little moment,
Until the indignation is past.

For behold, the LORD comes out of His place
To punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity;
The earth will also disclose her blood,
And will no more cover her slain.


Isaiah 26:20:21


Seek the LORD, all you meek of the earth,
Who have upheld His justice.
Seek righteousness, seek humility.
It may be that you will be hidden
In the day of the LORD's anger.


Zephaniah 2:3


For in the time of trouble
He shall hide me in His pavilion;
In the secret place of His tabernacle
He shall hide me;
He shall set me high upon a rock.


Psalm 27:5


"Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.
Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his master made ruler over his household, to give them food in due season?
Blessed is that servant whom his master, when he comes, will find so doing.
Assuredly, I say to you that he will make him ruler over all his goods.
But if that evil servant says in his heart, 'My master is delaying his coming,'
and begins to beat his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunkards,
the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him and at an hour that he is not aware of,
and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."


Matthew 28:44-51
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80078977



For it will come as a snare
on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.
Watch therefore, and pray always
that you may be counted worthy
to escape all these things that will come to pass,
and to stand before the Son of Man.


Luke 21:34-36


so that He may establish your hearts blameless in holiness before our God and Father at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all His saints.

1Thessalonians 3:13


Because you have kept My command to persevere,
I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world,
to test those who dwell on the earth
.


Revelation 3:10


For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery,
lest you should be wise in your own opinion,
that blindness in part has happened to Israel
until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.


Romans 11:25


For in the time of trouble
He shall hide me in His pavilion;
In the secret place of His tabernacle
He shall hide me;
He shall set me high upon a rock.


Psalms 27:5



Whom will he teach knowledge?
And whom will he make to understand the message?
Those just weaned from milk?
Those just drawn from the breasts?
For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept,
Line upon line, line upon line,
Here a little, there a little.


Isaiah 28:9,10

Nota single verse proves the a biblical pre-trib doctrine!
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How many times have you seen these desperate false prophecies by pre-tribbers claiming an imminent risk of Rapture, which never come true?

Why? Jesus says certain events must happen prior as does the book of Revelation. But these weirdos have never read the Bible!

Jesus states the Harpazo happens when very specific events happen, but apparently Middler knows the scoop!
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In My Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you.
If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also.


John 14:2,3


Come, my people, enter your chambers,
And shut your doors behind you;
Hide yourself, as it were, for a little moment,
Until the indignation is past.

For behold, the LORD comes out of His place
To punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity;
The earth will also disclose her blood,
And will no more cover her slain.


Isaiah 26:20:21


Seek the LORD, all you meek of the earth,
Who have upheld His justice.
Seek righteousness, seek humility.
It may be that you will be hidden
In the day of the LORD's anger.


Zephaniah 2:3


For in the time of trouble
He shall hide me in His pavilion
;
In the secret place of His tabernacle
He shall hide me
;
He shall set me high upon a rock.


Psalm 27:5


"Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.
Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his master made ruler over his household, to give them food in due season?
Blessed is that servant whom his master, when he comes, will find so doing.
Assuredly, I say to you that he will make him ruler over all his goods.
But if that evil servant says in his heart, 'My master is delaying his coming,'
and begins to beat his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunkards,
the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him and at an hour that he is not aware of,
and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."


Matthew 28:44-51


For it will come as a snare
on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.
Watch therefore, and pray always
that you may be counted worthy
to escape all these things that will come to pass
,
and to stand before the Son of Man.


Luke 21:34-36


so that He may establish your hearts blameless in holiness before our God and Father at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all His saints.

1Thessalonians 3:13


Because you have kept My command to persevere,
I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world,
to test those who dwell on the earth
.


Revelation 3:10


For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery,
lest you should be wise in your own opinion,
that blindness in part has happened to Israel
until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.


Romans 11:25


Whom will he teach knowledge?
And whom will he make to understand the message?
Those just weaned from milk?
Those just drawn from the breasts?
For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept,
Line upon line, line upon line,
Here a little, there a little.


Isaiah 28:9,10


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How many times have you seen these desperate false prophecies by pre-tribbers claiming an imminent risk of Rapture, which never come true?

Why? Jesus says certain events must happen prior as does the book of Revelation. But these weirdos have never read the Bible!

Jesus states the Harpazo happens when very specific events happen, but apparently Middler knows the scoop!
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Would you want to go stand before Jesus right this second?
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Jesus states the Harpazo happens when very specific events happen,
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False.

Quote Jesus.
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Re: Someone show me where the word Rapture can be found in the bible
Jesus performed miracles when people asked for them.

He didn't usually offer them.

He explained that he did as his father did.

God wants people to take initiative.

Pencil the word in, somewhere around "your faith has saved you."
230 here, but 0 there.
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Nota single verse proves the a biblical pre-trib doctrine!
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Not a single verse proves Jesus Christ to you!
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Prove?

Faith?
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