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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75530075 United States 02/21/2021 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of it I do not know, but God knows. And I know that this man— whether in the body or out of it I do not know, but God knows— was caught up to Paradise. The things he heard were too sacred for words, things that man is not permitted to tell.… 2 Corinthians 12:3 |
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Achduke7
User ID: 78023456 United States 02/21/2021 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The word for rapture in the original greek is Harpazo. Nonone of that is rapture? They are all acounts of people being caught up into heaven/raptured. Enoch was taken to heaven, body and soul, right before the flood I believe. Where does it say that? Gen 5:23 So all the days of Enoch were three hundred and sixty-five years. Gen 5:24 And Enoch walked with God; and he was not, for God took him. God took him but it does not say where. Also it says "all the days of" like he is no longer alive. Achduke |
Achduke7
User ID: 78023456 United States 02/21/2021 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rapture events throughout biblical history: ENOCH—Genesis 5 ELIJAH—2 Kings 6 ISAIAH—Isaiah 6 PHILIP—Acts 8 PAUL—2 Corinthians 12 TWO WITNESSES—Revelation 11 MALE CHILD (Jesus)—Revelation 12 It is not about being caught up. It is about being saved and being resurrected. Achduke |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78413626 United States 02/21/2021 09:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Strong's Greek: 726. harpazó -- to seize, catch up, snatch away, proverbial, to rescue from the danger of destruction, used of divine power transferring a person marvellously and swiftly from one place to another Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66986450 Act 8:39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away (G726) Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing. 2Co 12:4 How that he was caught up (G726) into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. 1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up (G726) together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up (G726) unto God, and to his throne. Revelation 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of My patience, I will also keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world to try them that dwell upon the earth. None of this is rapture.. The term "rapture" comes from the Latin verb rapiemur which means " to seize, snatch, carry away." This is the same meaning behind the Greek word that is found in the Bible, harpazo. It is found in the following scripture, which is one of many "harpazo" passage. 1 Thessalonians 4:15-18 Harpazo in the Greek to rapturo, or rapture which means caught up |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 66986450 Portugal 02/21/2021 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where does it say that? Quoting: Achduke7 Gen 5:23 So all the days of Enoch were three hundred and sixty-five years. Gen 5:24 And Enoch walked with God; and he was not, for God took him. God took him but it does not say where. Also it says "all the days of" like he is no longer alive. John 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14481951 Australia 02/21/2021 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Acts - Paul Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73347257 Corinthians - Paul. Yep again lol Thessalonians - Paul The Revelation passages don't refer to a rapture like event. Juat stinking Paul. And Matthew, but the wording there could simply indicate death. I'm telling you that Paul guy, he's no good see. So you're saying the Bible is wrong??? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79934078 United States 02/21/2021 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "In the Greek New Testament, the word harpazo is found a total of 17 times in 13 different verses. Each time harpazo is used this verb refers to a quick or sudden often violently physical “snatching away” or “catching away” of a person, a thing, or an idea. More important is the fact that in 5 of these 17 times harpazo is used in the New Testament harpazo ALWAYS refers to the literal physical (bodily) removal of a faithfully righteous human being from one place to another, or from one sphere of existence to another. The 5 times harpazo is used involving faithfully righteous people are when: 1. Philip is harpazo’d from the presence of the Ethiopian eunuch to a different location miles away (see Acts 8:39, AKJV) 2. Paul is harpazo’d from the Earth to the Third Heaven (see 2 Corinthians 12:2, AKJV) 3. Paul is harpazo’d from the Earth to the Third Heaven; second reference (see 2 Corinthians 12:4, AKJV) 4. Bride of Christ is harpazo’d from the Earth to the clouds to meet Her Groom (Christ Jesus) in the air (see 1 Thessalonians 4:17, AKJV); the understanding here is that the Bride will be taken to Heaven to be with Her Groom 5. Christ Jesus is harpazo’d from Bethany near the Mount of Olives to His Throne in Heaven (see Revelation 12:5; cf. Luke 24:50-51; Acts 1:9; AKJV)" YOU DO NOT KNOW.. OK.. and your bible and other such are not accurate.. think in a quiet place of why they might not be accurate.. there is a littany of reasons. The Bride is those who fuse with their inner Father Fragments and there is going to be a lot of that during the Magnetic reversal in fact. The marriage is the fusion to the Inner Father Spirit Fragment.. Man arises from the Mother... and the marriage is when he fuses with his/her father. as to ACTS.. LUKE was a student of the confused PAUL .. ok. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78413626 United States 02/21/2021 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rapture events throughout biblical history: ENOCH—Genesis 5 ELIJAH—2 Kings 6 ISAIAH—Isaiah 6 PHILIP—Acts 8 PAUL—2 Corinthians 12 TWO WITNESSES—Revelation 11 MALE CHILD (Jesus)—Revelation 12 It is not about being caught up. It is about being saved and being resurrected. In the twinkling of an eye...we will be caught up or snatched to Jesus, who at the rapture event, remains in the clouds and does not set foot on earth, as he does in the second coming... Read 1 Thess 4:13-18. Rapture is the perfect word because it literally means aggressively pulled away or snatched, as a parent might do to a child who was in harms way. The bible is clear on the term and conveys the rapture precisely. First the dead in Christ rise first (resurrection), then we who are alive and remain (meaning we are still on earth at the moment of the resurrection of the dead) will be caught up to meet them in the air (this provides us timing information...we get raptured pretty darn quickly after the dead in Christ rise. Take the bible for what it says or not, but it says what it says and the rapture verses are both clear and precise. It's not difficult to understand or interpret. Use Chuck Missler's (RIP) hermeneutics and you really cant go wrong. |
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Baloney
User ID: 75923721 United States 02/21/2021 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Bride is those who fuse with their inner Father Fragments and there is going to be a lot of that during the Magnetic reversal in fact. The marriage is the fusion to the Inner Father Spirit Fragment.. Man arises from the Mother... and the marriage is when he fuses with his/her father. as to ACTS.. LUKE was a student of the confused PAUL .. ok. NOPE. it is YOU who does NOT know. ok. the bride are those who belong to GOD's only begotten son Jesus. They have accepted his free gift of salvation that is through his finished work of the cross. Has NOTHING to do with any fusion of your phony fragment nonsense. there is no magnetic reversal. and the bible is accurate, as it is the word of GOD ok. |
Baloney
User ID: 75923721 United States 02/21/2021 09:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now that ^^^^ is a pile of satanic bullshit. yes christ did die for your sins. He took the death penalty in our stead. and he was and is the way, the truth, and the life. NO man gets to the Father but through him. and yes there is rapture in the bible the bible is NOT corrupt, but you and your urantia book are corrupt.....to the core. the raapture isn't for you or your evil cult anyway. You people will be the left-behinds that stay right here during the tribulation period and will serve your satan of nebadon. 1 Corinthians 3-4 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Last Edited by Baloney on 02/21/2021 10:00 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 66986450 Portugal 02/21/2021 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ill just sit back and watch the dead bury their dead. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52550684 Most of them are taking the vax anyway. Easy, those with the seal of God are not tested during the tribulation. They have nothing to fear. Quoting: Achduke7 Rev 12:6 Then the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there one thousand two hundred and sixty days. Rev 12:14 But the woman was given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place, where she is nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent. Where else were eagles wings given for safety? When God took Israel out of Egypt. Now God calls his people out if Babylon. Exo 19:4 'You have seen what I did to the Egyptians, and how I bore you on eagles' wings and brought you to Myself. |
Achduke7
User ID: 78023456 United States 02/21/2021 10:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rapture events throughout biblical history: ENOCH—Genesis 5 ELIJAH—2 Kings 6 ISAIAH—Isaiah 6 PHILIP—Acts 8 PAUL—2 Corinthians 12 TWO WITNESSES—Revelation 11 MALE CHILD (Jesus)—Revelation 12 It is not about being caught up. It is about being saved and being resurrected. In the twinkling of an eye...we will be caught up or snatched to Jesus, who at the rapture event, remains in the clouds and does not set foot on earth, as he does in the second coming... Read 1 Thess 4:13-18. Rapture is the perfect word because it literally means aggressively pulled away or snatched, as a parent might do to a child who was in harms way. The bible is clear on the term and conveys the rapture precisely. First the dead in Christ rise first (resurrection), then we who are alive and remain (meaning we are still on earth at the moment of the resurrection of the dead) will be caught up to meet them in the air (this provides us timing information...we get raptured pretty darn quickly after the dead in Christ rise. Take the bible for what it says or not, but it says what it says and the rapture verses are both clear and precise. It's not difficult to understand or interpret. Use Chuck Missler's (RIP) hermeneutics and you really cant go wrong. Ok lets look at 1 thess 4 and see what it is talking about. 1Th 4:13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. Paul is talking about the dead in Christ here. 1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus. The dead in Christ will also rise and be resurrected like Christ. 1Th 4:15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. Dead have to go first. Paul is clear about this. 1Th 4:16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. At the voice of an angel the dead rise first. Once again Paul is clear here. 1Th 4:17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. Here we see those left over and are still alive then are caught up to meet Christ. This is after all the dead in Christ are raised up which includes all that die during the tribulation and the 144k and two witnesses who are killed(dead in Christ) by the beast. All the dead in Christ must go first as Paul says. He is very clear and makes this point many times. Those who die during the tribulation and believe in Christ are the dead in Christ. Achduke |
Deep1111
User ID: 80068084 United States 02/21/2021 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There will be one..but it will be solely to protect the flesh of the 144 thousand elect... Jesus made that clear..that it will get so bad that even the elect might perish in the flesh...but for the elect sake it will be cut short...this is what apostle Paul meant- those of us that remain alive at that moment will also be caught up with them...so there will be a catching up....(rapture) but you will also be lucky to even be alive on that day..so go figure...it will be very bad..notice apostle Paul say's (those that remain alive) sounds just like those that survived D day landing...not many Quoting: SkOaleR So, what does this look like? Are people going to float to space, or are ships going to land and pick people up to take them to space? Jesus said: He who seeks, let him not cease seeking until he finds; and when he finds he will be troubled, and when he is troubled he will be amazed, and he will reign over the All. Keep calling it mental illness. 1,000 years ago, they called us see'ers [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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Mother Angelica
User ID: 79756691 United States 02/21/2021 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The good thing is that rapture theory has nothing to do with salvation through Christ. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79808403 You do not need to believe or disbelieve the rapture in order to be saved. And OP, some cannot see or understand so they must mock, they have no other option. Some are of their father, the devil. Agreed! I dont bother arguing the subject, as i wouldnt want to sow a divide amongst fellow Christians. I just like to try and learn from both sides of the coin. [link to bible.org (secure)] I love people and care about what happens to them! If you always do what you always did you will always get what you always got. Let us Lord face piles of trials with smiles, that riles them to believe that we deceived the web that they weaved. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73589198 United States 02/21/2021 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It does not. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80072058 The bible was put together by the catholic church founders, and the catholic church or catholics do not believe in the rapture. Its for some reason a belief of protestants christians. Yeah and they just picked what books they wanted included. Enoch is one that wasn't. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66986450 Portugal 02/21/2021 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where does it say that? Quoting: Achduke7 Gen 5:23 So all the days of Enoch were three hundred and sixty-five years. Gen 5:24 And Enoch walked with God; and he was not, for God took him. God took him but it does not say where. Also it says "all the days of" like he is no longer alive. Heb 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated (G3346) that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated (G3346) him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. Strong's Greek: 3346. metatithemi -- I transfer, change, to turn one thing into another, to turn about, figuratively, to transmute 1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed (G236). Strong's Greek: 236. allassó -- to change, alter, exchange, transform, to cause one thing to cease and another to take its place, to exchange one thing for another, to transform |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79281006 United States 02/21/2021 11:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The tribal people who shall not be named cause of Trinity's banning don't believe in a soul or spirit, neither do their cousins the arabs. That is a pagan European concept from before christianization. Ffs, hell is the name of Loki's daughter. The bible was written for their culture. What do they say about it. Well here goes. You are your body, what you see is what you get. When you are dead, you are dad. No different than the bug that hit my windshield last year. At the end, everybody that has ever lived is resurrected in the air. Which is what you are breathing, not the sky. Then you are judged. Either you live forever here on a restored earth or you are dead again. You never see heaven, that is elysian fields paganism. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 66986450 Portugal 02/21/2021 11:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | G236 allasso From G243; to make different: - change. Act 6:14 For we have heard him say, that this Jesus of Nazareth shall destroy this place, and shall change (G236) the customs which Moses delivered us. Rom 1:23 And changed (G236) the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. 1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed (G236), 1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed (G236). Gal 4:20 I desire to be present with you now, and to change (G236) my voice; for I stand in doubt of you. Heb 1:12 And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed (G236): but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78706851 United States 02/21/2021 11:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The rapture is not the debate. The debate is does it occur pre, mid or post tribulation. Matt 23 is pretty clear to me. Quoting: MudSlinger agreed, the chronology is pretty clear. the rapture occurs when Jesus returns in the clouds. That happens after the trib. the pre trib rapture is a modern invention and wouldnt be a big deal but will be part of the falling away |
Texan
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