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It’s not about the death rate ... HIV doesn’t kill folks for years.... rethink how sars cov 2 works.... it's not going to be pretty

 
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Re: It’s not about the death rate ... HIV doesn’t kill folks for years.... rethink how sars cov 2 works.... it's not going to be pretty
How does the current global pandemic compare with the influenza pandemic of 1918?

The influenza pandemic is usually called the Spanish flu. However, it was only called that because it came to the attention of the media more in Spain since this country was neutral and had a freer media than the Great War combatant nations of Britain, France and Germany where the flu was initially prevalent.

We don’t know for sure the origin of that pandemic but recent research suggests that it might have been a military establishment in the USA. It is highly likely that Covid-19 originated in Wuhan in China, but we can’t yet be totally certain of that. The virus might have been present in other countries before being detected in China.

The technical term for so-called Spanish flu was the H1N1 influenza virus. The technical term for the coronavirus currently rampaging through the world is SARS-CoV-2.

The Spanish flu lasted from February 1918 to April 1920, so approximately two years. The current pandemic started in December 2019 and therefore, so far, it has been running for almost a year and a half.

The Spanish flu infected around 500 million people which was about a third of the world’s population at the time. So far, Covid-19 is believed to have infected 127 million out of a current world population of 7.9 billion .

We don’t know the death toll from the Spanish flu. It is usually estimated as between 20 – 50 million, but the lowest estimate is 17 million and the highest is 100 million. The current pandemic is far from over but currently the death toll stands at 2.78 million.

The flu of 1918-1920 was experienced in four successive waves. The present pandemic is not over, but the UK and USA have had two waves and much of Europe is currently experiencing a third wave.

Most flu epidemics disproportionately kill the very young and the very old, but the Spanish flu caused a higher than expected mortality rate for young adults aged 20-40. So far, Covid-19 has disproportionately killed the over 70s.

In 1918-1920, there were no antiviral drugs and no vaccines. Already a range of treatments exist for Covid-19 and a number of different vaccines have already been developed and approved.

A final thought: the Spanish flu may have killed as many as the Great War, almost every town and village in Britain and France has a memorial to the war dead, but when was the last time you saw a memorial anywhere to the flu victims of 1918-1920? Indeed the event hardly seems to figure in history books or people’s consciousness. Which begs the question: how will the pandemic of 2019-2021(?) be remembered and memorialised?
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One thing to consider is that Covid-19 has been documented to a degree unimaginable in 1918 with H1N1. Because of instant, worldwide communication, there is a shared trauma to cement this pandemic. Also, H1N1 was swallowed up by the shared trauma of WWI. Imo
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It has been funny to look how the situation of my country (Chile) has been calling attention from abroad.

We have a high rate of vaccination, but Chile embraced the Chinese made Coronavac that is an old school vaccine, not an mRNA vaccine.

Anyway, the problem of the vaccine is that all vaccinated people begin to act as if they have become immune to the virus and the spread has only gotten worse, the deaths are expected at some point to decline (at least in the old age brackets have, but the lower brackets ages have skyrocketed in ICU and deaths), but the infections will skyrocket ever more.
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It has been funny to look how the situation of my country (Chile) has been calling attention from abroad.

We have a high rate of vaccination, but Chile embraced the Chinese made Coronavac that is an old school vaccine, not an mRNA vaccine.

Anyway, the problem of the vaccine is that all vaccinated people begin to act as if they have become immune to the virus and the spread has only gotten worse, the deaths are expected at some point to decline (at least in the old age brackets have, but the lower brackets ages have skyrocketed in ICU and deaths), but the infections will skyrocket ever more.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


Yeah same thing happened over here but worse, everyone I know started acting like they were immune after the first shot when at best their protection won't come until weeks after the second shot.
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Telehealth today....

When are you coming to take the vaccine?

Hahahahaha. Oh. You are so funny. Talk to me in 2 years. Minimum.
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BREAKING: India reports 115,262 new coronavirus cases, the biggest one-day increase on record

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Prions...hahahahahaha, they are a bit too slow on figuring out what is going on, these prions will only deteriorate further the whole play that is going on, see it as a self-destructive button pressed, each step brings closer the next step that at some point reality is so far away that the point of no return has been fallen and from that point, science and Politics are only using their power to create a domino of total destruction everywhere, Globally.

The above might be very general but since after so many pages someone figured out about prions, it was worth the shot to comment.
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Dude. I. Practice. Being. A. Good. Soul.

But my patience level is Cranky .....

It was too big a discussion, in the original thread, back in March 2020 about the prion possibility just from the virus. But it was too big and scary so it was dropped.

Maybe go read DT’s thread from March to April 2020. It’s not that they want destruction. It’s just incompetence and brain drain.
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I. Fucking. Hate. Setting. Up. New. Devices.

But here we are. I refuse to have home internet soooooo it’s not just click and load.

And I dare folks to try and find new anything with chips ....in a few months. This was the first time that sprint even had a basic iPad available.... in forever.
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I’ve spent a couple of days away from tech with the kids and it was glorious.

Catching up properly I can only say fuck.
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BREAKING: Brazil reports record 4,195 new coronavirus deaths


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Turkey reports 49,584 new coronavirus cases, by far the biggest one-day increase on record

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BREAKING: Brazil reports record 4,195 new coronavirus deaths


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Hope you guyz and gals are safe and in good health prayers to all.

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Future Darwin Awards....


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This may even be an insult to Darwin...
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Hope you guyz and gals are safe and in good health prayers to all.
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Agreed!

Posted this on the main thread:

Russia’s COVID-19 defense may depend on mystery vaccine from former bioweapons lab—but does it work?
By Olga DobrovidovaApr. 6, 2021 , 11:05 AM

[link to www.sciencemag.org (secure)]

When the Kremlin last month said Russian President Vladimir Putin had received the first dose of a homegrown COVID-19 vaccine, a guessing game began. Had he gotten Sputnik V, which Russia had given emergency use authorization—a world first—in August 2020 after testing in just 79 patients? Or had Putin been given another COVID-19 vaccine that Russia had sanctioned with much less fanfare—and with equally sparse evidence that it works?

Putin and state officials wouldn’t say, but Russia’s second COVID-19 vaccine, known as EpiVacCorona and first authorized in October 2020, has begun to emerge from the shadow of Sputnik V, bringing controversy of its own. Developed by VECTOR, the famed State Research Center of Virology and Biotechnology that once studied bioweapons and now is one of two global repositories of the eradicated smallpox virus, the vaccine is key to the country’s plans to combat the pandemic. Russia began to offer it to small numbers of people last year, plans to administer 1.5 million doses per month by this summer, and aims for a bigger national campaign.


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Probably not a bad idea..

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Speaking of bad ideas.

Our idiot school board timed the return to full capacity schools to start this week (on Monday) immediately after last week’s spring break.

Yesterday, the middle school and high school sent out Covid notification letters informing parents of presumed or confirmed cases.
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Hope you guyz and gals are safe and in good health prayers to all.
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prayers

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Speaking of bad ideas.

Our idiot school board timed the return to full capacity schools to start this week (on Monday) immediately after last week’s spring break.

Yesterday, the middle school and high school sent out Covid notification letters informing parents of presumed or confirmed cases.
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Spring break travel will be the driving force this time.... go team.

That’s. Epic. Dumb.
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Hope you guyz and gals are safe and in good health prayers to all.
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Agreed!

Posted this on the main thread:

Russia’s COVID-19 defense may depend on mystery vaccine from former bioweapons lab—but does it work?
By Olga DobrovidovaApr. 6, 2021 , 11:05 AM

[link to www.sciencemag.org (secure)]

When the Kremlin last month said Russian President Vladimir Putin had received the first dose of a homegrown COVID-19 vaccine, a guessing game began. Had he gotten Sputnik V, which Russia had given emergency use authorization—a world first—in August 2020 after testing in just 79 patients? Or had Putin been given another COVID-19 vaccine that Russia had sanctioned with much less fanfare—and with equally sparse evidence that it works?

Putin and state officials wouldn’t say, but Russia’s second COVID-19 vaccine, known as EpiVacCorona and first authorized in October 2020, has begun to emerge from the shadow of Sputnik V, bringing controversy of its own. Developed by VECTOR, the famed State Research Center of Virology and Biotechnology that once studied bioweapons and now is one of two global repositories of the eradicated smallpox virus, the vaccine is key to the country’s plans to combat the pandemic. Russia began to offer it to small numbers of people last year, plans to administer 1.5 million doses per month by this summer, and aims for a bigger national campaign.


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That low a rollout..... mutants escape.....

CALL in the radioactive turtles.
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Timing..... bad vibes

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It has been funny to look how the situation of my country (Chile) has been calling attention from abroad.

We have a high rate of vaccination, but Chile embraced the Chinese made Coronavac that is an old school vaccine, not an mRNA vaccine.

Anyway, the problem of the vaccine is that all vaccinated people begin to act as if they have become immune to the virus and the spread has only gotten worse, the deaths are expected at some point to decline (at least in the old age brackets have, but the lower brackets ages have skyrocketed in ICU and deaths), but the infections will skyrocket ever more.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


Yeah same thing happened over here but worse, everyone I know started acting like they were immune after the first shot when at best their protection won't come until weeks after the second shot.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Yep....I see the same too....The effectiveness of the vaccine is secondary to its perception....
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Hope you guyz and gals are safe and in good health prayers to all.
 Quoting: CDC ATL


Agreed!

Posted this on the main thread:

Russia’s COVID-19 defense may depend on mystery vaccine from former bioweapons lab—but does it work?
By Olga DobrovidovaApr. 6, 2021 , 11:05 AM

[link to www.sciencemag.org (secure)]

When the Kremlin last month said Russian President Vladimir Putin had received the first dose of a homegrown COVID-19 vaccine, a guessing game began. Had he gotten Sputnik V, which Russia had given emergency use authorization—a world first—in August 2020 after testing in just 79 patients? Or had Putin been given another COVID-19 vaccine that Russia had sanctioned with much less fanfare—and with equally sparse evidence that it works?

Putin and state officials wouldn’t say, but Russia’s second COVID-19 vaccine, known as EpiVacCorona and first authorized in October 2020, has begun to emerge from the shadow of Sputnik V, bringing controversy of its own. Developed by VECTOR, the famed State Research Center of Virology and Biotechnology that once studied bioweapons and now is one of two global repositories of the eradicated smallpox virus, the vaccine is key to the country’s plans to combat the pandemic. Russia began to offer it to small numbers of people last year, plans to administer 1.5 million doses per month by this summer, and aims for a bigger national campaign.


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There is a prophecy out there that Russia will be the light of the world.
Could their vaccine be why?
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Speaking of bad ideas.

Our idiot school board timed the return to full capacity schools to start this week (on Monday) immediately after last week’s spring break.

Yesterday, the middle school and high school sent out Covid notification letters informing parents of presumed or confirmed cases.
 Quoting: Guythu


Yeah...idiocy. We've been back to in-person for a month. Just found out today my former school has 8 confirmed cases across grades 2, 3 and 5. So you know the whole school is infected
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Largest study to date suggests link between COVID-19 infection and subsequent mental health and neurological conditions
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Impressive, a study with a base of 230.000 patients is quite large!
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At 10 a.m., IDPH reported 383,337 total positive tests, 336,119 total recoveries and 5,835 total deaths since the pandemic began. The health department reported 382,540 total positive tests and 5,822 total deaths 24 hours earlier.

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shall we do a review on exponential growth/ spread?

today the glass is half full, this seems to be when areas realize they have a outbreak of the new variants.

tomorrow- the glass is full,the next day u need more glasses,the next more and more glasses,

now we have never seen full exponential growth of doubling every day,due to several factors not just the guidelines. in a few"days" u will need a swimming pool.a "month" a lake,a "year" a ocean. etc. where time is relative to the doubling of cases. more on the time in a bit.

let's look at this per the US's plan- move patients to noninfected areas.this plan fails in days. D1-hospital full,D2 send patients out, D3 now what do u do?? obviously we cannot build hospitals as fast as the virus spreads and infects.

time is reative to the spread. we have not seen double every day. we could look it up with BRAZIL and get how fast the case # doubles. since our job is to avoid the virus completely, let's look at what slows it from doubling every day.

masks and gear help some. i think they are helping very little with the new variants. avoiding ppl helps more.there is another factor to this. in the very beginning of the WUHAN flu/viruis spreading out from CHINA, who carried it? upper class pplp that were traveling to CHINA and cruise ships, and upper management personnel from some meetings.
ppl are clicky- they socialize with like classed ppl.poor ppl with each other,business ppl with each other,etc. u generally associate with family and coworkers.

so 1 person will spread this virus to their circle of ppl.then that infected will help spread it to more of the same class of ppl. basically within the same circle. won't take long and that circle is covered.takes more time for it to jump to another circle. since there are many many circles, the virus spread is slowed from a full exponential growth of doubling every day.

to speed this process of jumping circles up, the great and powerful all-mighty CDC is doing what? opening schools.this will bridge the circles fast by mixing all the click groups together. combined with sports opening and travel,the virus now can run free from town to town.
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it is time to call GHOSTBUSTERS to build this city with rock n roll. turn every radio and stereo on in this whole damn world. mayb just mayb it works again.
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how flucked is the world?

the same ppl who ran around spreading the virus cause they thought it was a hoax, now are scared and getting the shot. which way is up?
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

ARM like u never have before.
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it is time to call GHOSTBUSTERS to build this city with rock n roll. turn every radio and stereo on in this whole damn world. mayb just mayb it works again.





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