Sars Cov 2 … the grinder continues to eat away at resources and humanity.

several reasons for that RW. 1 is we have ppl in our lives that we know will fair badly with the virus or vaccine. 2 the vaccine was rolled out too quickly. needs more time to work out some bugs see pt 1.

3 we do not trust the govern.remeember the same ppl are in charge now. those ppl were partly to blame for making a monster virus. some of them also said the virus was no big deal and that the shot was not goina work. now they swapped sides. they lied then or now.

4> being a BIO-LAB produced viorus we have no clue what its intention is. so far, several times it has shown not to act like a normal virus. this 1 does appear to mutate into a more lethal version.only goina take 1 crazed mutationn to cause the shot to b worthless.

5> sealed bunkers shut. to me that is a sign that we are in an experiment. virus escaped LAB before being finished. CHINA flipped in the beginning. TPTB dove into dumbs and sealed them. the evidence is there. they have no clue what will really happen. most of the talk has been to maintina calm over the public. they admit to this and in fact asdmmit to luying to achieve that calm.

6> how much history do we need to show that man playing Mother Nature is not a good idea? it goes badly. man has tried and tried. look back at other miracle meds. weed killers,pesticide,asbestos. even the vaccines we got as kids have been altered over time and do not work as well nowadays.

7> TRUST THE SCIENCE-well the science has warned in the last decade that overusing anti-bacterial soap and drugs could and has created a super bug. the anti-biotics do not work as well any more,if at all. this vaccine and viruses will or can go the same path. might take a while ,might not.

8> vaccine does not mean u do not get covid. it just minimizes the chance of u being in a hospital in the short run. so what bout long covid? these ppl can still spread it.
what affects is the virus and /or shot having on the ppl??
let's see the DATA bout 5-10yrs out. there is none.

9> the govern's objective is NOT to save ppl. it is COG. to that end the goal is to keep ppl calm even if the situation is beyond hope. i have documented the incompetance of the CDC. u think it was all cause they are stupid even with those college doctorate degrees? or more odds that they did some on purpose?

Haven't interacted with you much W, but okay you got vaccinated, good on you. So you should be safe from those who aren't yes? Why then do you give a rat's ass if someone chooses to get the shot or not? Why get your panties in such a bunch?

Free to adult and decide for ourselves, or is that not okay with you?

May.....

You hold tight to that. Your circles are too small. And too isolated.

I have seen it all in my circles. Including a pacemaker because the vax fucked up a perfect functional heart.

Plus trade journals.... always read the comments. You learn a lot.

LAGO- FUTURE HEADLINES not present. it wasn't me. ain't far off from happening thou. prices are almost half way there now.

My kidneys are really tired of your harping. You can’t find a better discussion.

Did you know that I don’t give a fuck? Did you also know that your PSA from hell ain’t working....

do we have confirmation that the GLP effect has been restored completely?

as for the nothingburgers- they think the virus is a fraud. this war isn't 2 sides. it is mankind against virus but many ppl have differeing opinions.

only thing we do know is time will show the truth.


by the way the 1's pushing the vax say the virus came from bats. so now u can change your sign to batman.

fair is fair.

Yep.

My $2 deodorant... now $4.

Food still manageable here.

A lot of new paper packages... not plastic.

:Batman:

Because I'm not worried about me. I have plenty of money and a very cheap standard of living. My skills are in high demand and I could get by even if permanently disabled.

COVID isn't a threat to me, no matter how this shit goes down I'm gonna be fine. Shit, I made more money in 2020 than I have in any other year of my life.

Who I worry about is the many that aren't that fortunate. The world needs to get back to normal. There are a lot of people just barely hanging on, and just as many who have already gone over the edge.

group 1> had virus
2> have virus
3> had shot
4> had both shot and virus
5> avoided both

and now RW wants us all to wear the same color shirts? maybe the avoiders should b skins. and vax ppl wear red?

u do realize what country this is? AMERICA-ppl living together that are different. we chose to do that. we don't all think the same in any of those catagories.many who took it only half trust the shot. they did so due to jobs or in hopes normal returns.

shall all vaccine ppl get tattoos on their forehead next? did u pick your #?

How many perfectly functional hearts has COVID fucked up?

Bought pickle relish the last time. Containers are half as big and twice the price. Good thing I don't use it ALL the time.

many,but i do fear the vaccine will too. GF's family history with anorisms is a concern for the grandkids and neices and nephews too.

or it could have been oil n water. not genetics. don't care to find out.

TB we may need to shop AMISH. better quality and prices both i bet.

Might have to. I haven't been down there in a couple of years. I ordered what I do have on line.

I've been wondering all day how to chop cukes that small and wondering if the pickle docks are still open.

they use a grinder. not sure a blender on low would work in a pinch.

Oh yeay!!! I have 3 grinders! My mom's, my grandma's and my great gramma's! Mom's is a little one, but the grandma's are heavy duty! Now all I need is a pickle source. Hhhhmmmm.

I think I have a big enough crock from grandma's.

See, I told you I agreed with you most of the time! By the way, you are in great company with your position, although the context was a little different "Ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country,” Thanks for the green, JAZZz50!

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i bought 1 of those oldies for $1. rusty. not sure it will clean up or work but was only a buck.

I haven't looked at them closely. Just snatched them from grabby children that wouldn't use them. My gram's should be ok.

Guys, since I lost my temper on the thread, I feel I owe an apology to everyone. I don't like losing my temper, it's something I have to work on every day.

I don't apologize for anything I said, except for the colorful language. If my mom were still alive, she'd probably wash my mouth out with soap and I'd deserve it.

Dutchy and Pepe, I'm sorry if I made you feel uncomfortable. I hope you stay around because we all need your influence.

Wordsie, I meant everything I said earlier. I really think you need to go back and read some of the studies and articles. It might explain better why I feel about the shot as I do right now. I'm not so foolish as to say never. I'm saying firmly not now. I want to see more first. If I die, I die. It's not on you. I am the only one responsible for myself. I take full and complete responsibility now, just as I have done in the past.

I will say this. I will NOT tolerate bullying of ANYONE, at any time. I will call it like I see it. I expect y'all to do the same, if I'm out of line.

Just because we don't all agree with everyone every time doesn't mean we can't agree to disagree. I don't know why we have such a hard time doing that anymore and I don't like it. We need to get back to some semblance of civility. I include myself in that.

So, with all that said, I think I'll take a small break. I've got a ton of work to do here and I've been online too much lately. I need to recenter again.

Wordsworth, I'm struggling to make sense of your vaccine pushing position.

You confidently claimed on more than one occasion in this thread that people who get the shots are prevented from becoming infected. So, according to that, why should it matter to you that people refuse the shots? After all, the non-vaccinateds wouldn't be able to infect the vaccinateds. They could potentially put only themselves and fellow non-vaccinateds at risk from the virus if they got careless enough. But if that's the risk the non-vaccinated people are aware of, and which they are content with, and they still don't want to get vaccinated then why should you feel the need to push the altruism angle? Those people want to be left alone.

Maybe you could claim the altruism angle if you mean specifically for the sake of helping the smaller, but not unimportant, amount of folks who are immunocompromised (3% of population). I assume that's not what you were referring to, though...



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wait,TB. don't leave us now. we need the calm voice. besides whoo is goina make the relish for us?

i don't think u flipped badly on anyone.

RW knows his place. he has seen our write ups to know where we stand. i don't blame him for taking the shot. but nobody needs to b conviced or peer pressured into it.we all have our reasons for holding out.

we all have our breaking points. hell i was sharpening swords. but i doubt RW was mad at us. he just sees different.

stay TB. we are the escape hatch from the reality that is crushing ppl.

^what Jazz said

TB... I think I can speak on behalf of those in this thread and say we are grateful for your presence here. I'm pretty sure you don't owe anyone an apology either... :)

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she shoulda spanked CG. he woulda liked it.

Me too.

Things seem out of control here....

Breaking point soon????

I feel something in the air

BLEACH.

I. NEED. BLEACH.