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Look... I get it.... the US looks mighty perty normal. Don’t let your guard down. Covid 19 ain’t just about one point in time.

 
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South Africa reports 13,246 new coronavirus cases, the biggest one-day increase since January 16

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Re: Look... I get it.... the US looks mighty perty normal. Don’t let your guard down. Covid 19 ain’t just about one point in time.
So I'm going to be using mid-June as a benchmark to make a determination on where this pandemic is heading in the US. A majority of Americans are going to be treating this holiday weekend as "normal." It will, in fact, probably be worse than most previous Memorial Day weekends because people have been cooped up and restricted for almost 18 months now. People are already acting crazy according to the police calls I hear every night. Calls that I would normally expect on Friday and Saturday nights are happening every night now, and they're getting weirder. Cabin fever is in full play.

By the way, Indianapolis is allowing 135,000 people in the stands for the Indianapolis 500, being advertised as "the largest attended sporting event in the world since Covid began."

Any consequences from this weekend will begin to show up by June 15th, give or take a few days. US numbers as of yesterday were at ~22,000 new reported cases daily and continuing to fall. The numbers haven't been this low since March 30, 2020. If the numbers continue to fall or at minimum remain steady for the first and second week of June, I will be satisfied that the pandemic is possibly "under control" in the United States and that the virus is burning out, vaccinations are working, or a combination of both. I would be more inclined to get the J&J shot at the end of June in this scenario.

If, however, numbers take a huge spike around that time, I will be seriously questioning the efficacy of vaccines and the odds of actually getting the virus under control. I would be much less inclined to get vaccinated under this scenario since it would be apparent that vaccinations are not entirely responsible for the recent downward trend in numbers.

Note I am only talking raw numbers here. I am not taking into account potential long-term health effects of either Covid or the vaccines. I am going to start treating those issues as a different disaster than the pandemic itself.

Sound reasonable? Anyone have any holes they can poke in my logic?
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go ,go run away to the bunker f u may.
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ARM like u never have before.
there is 1 force of magic left to counter whatever comes.

it is time to call GHOSTBUSTERS to build this city with rock n roll. turn every radio and stereo on in this whole damn world. mayb just mayb it works again.
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Re: Look... I get it.... the US looks mighty perty normal. Don’t let your guard down. Covid 19 ain’t just about one point in time.
So I'm going to be using mid-June as a benchmark to make a determination on where this pandemic is heading in the US. A majority of Americans are going to be treating this holiday weekend as "normal." It will, in fact, probably be worse than most previous Memorial Day weekends because people have been cooped up and restricted for almost 18 months now. People are already acting crazy according to the police calls I hear every night. Calls that I would normally expect on Friday and Saturday nights are happening every night now, and they're getting weirder. Cabin fever is in full play.

By the way, Indianapolis is allowing 135,000 people in the stands for the Indianapolis 500, being advertised as "the largest attended sporting event in the world since Covid began."

Any consequences from this weekend will begin to show up by June 15th, give or take a few days. US numbers as of yesterday were at ~22,000 new reported cases daily and continuing to fall. The numbers haven't been this low since March 30, 2020. If the numbers continue to fall or at minimum remain steady for the first and second week of June, I will be satisfied that the pandemic is possibly "under control" in the United States and that the virus is burning out, vaccinations are working, or a combination of both. I would be more inclined to get the J&J shot at the end of June in this scenario.

If, however, numbers take a huge spike around that time, I will be seriously questioning the efficacy of vaccines and the odds of actually getting the virus under control. I would be much less inclined to get vaccinated under this scenario since it would be apparent that vaccinations are not entirely responsible for the recent downward trend in numbers.

Note I am only talking raw numbers here. I am not taking into account potential long-term health effects of either Covid or the vaccines. I am going to start treating those issues as a different disaster than the pandemic itself.

Sound reasonable? Anyone have any holes they can poke in my logic?
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Riff

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Green means Go

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Re: Look... I get it.... the US looks mighty perty normal. Don’t let your guard down. Covid 19 ain’t just about one point in time.
Seeing supply chain concerns popping up in various areas.

We all know, some of us expected it not to hold on this long.
Remember Yantian International Container Terminal is just one port. It’s a massive port, the ripple is be the same.

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Re: Look... I get it.... the US looks mighty perty normal. Don’t let your guard down. Covid 19 ain’t just about one point in time.
Seeing supply chain concerns popping up in various areas.

We all know, some of us expected it not to hold on this long.
Remember Yantian International Container Terminal is just one port. It’s a massive port, the ripple is be the same.

We Are About to Run Out of Some Stuff

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Oddly enough, just got a text from a family member who said they were talking to mutual family in a small town. The Save-a-Lot there is now receiving significant reduction of supplies - like 1/2 as much.
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'Down'? I was wondering when the guard was going to go, 'Up.'.
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Re: Look... I get it.... the US looks mighty perty normal. Don’t let your guard down. Covid 19 ain’t just about one point in time.
Seeing supply chain concerns popping up in various areas.

We all know, some of us expected it not to hold on this long.
Remember Yantian International Container Terminal is just one port. It’s a massive port, the ripple is be the same.

We Are About to Run Out of Some Stuff

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Oddly enough, just got a text from a family member who said they were talking to mutual family in a small town. The Save-a-Lot there is now receiving significant reduction of supplies - like 1/2 as much.
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It’s ugly at the dollar trees too... even in the nice ones. (From friends)
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'Down'? I was wondering when the guard was going to go, 'Up.'.
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Normalcy bias. It’s too late.
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June 6, 2021

Coronavirus: infected Hong Kong teen unlikely to be tied to Shenzhen cluster involving same Alpha variant

But a medical source said a comparison of the genome sequencing of the infections found about 25 genetic differences between them, indicating Shenzhen was unlikely to be the source.


June 14, 2021

Coronavirus: Hong Kong authorities going all out to trace source of teen’s infection as experts suggest 140 close contacts need antibody testing

Authorities and scientists attempting to pinpoint source of transmission not ruling out any possibilities, including animals such as rats and even frozen food

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Re: Look... I get it.... the US looks mighty perty normal. Don’t let your guard down. Covid 19 ain’t just about one point in time.
Record keeping....

Iowa is getting good at making things look soooo good. I have enough to know these numbers aren’t accurate. Sorry. Cannot share.

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The Iowa Department of Public Health on Thursday reported 56 new positive COVID-19 tests and six additional deaths.

At 10 a.m., the health department reported 403,573 total positive tests, 364,611 total recoveries and 6,109 total deaths since the start of the pandemic. Twenty-four hours earlier, the health department reported 403,481 total positive tests and 6,103 total deaths.
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Vermont goes Green...

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Not looking like we're going to get a Memorial Day Spike

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I don't really think they are testing much anymore,
my youngest (34) is in the hospital, original symptoms were fever for more than a week , muscle aches, respiratory issues and a slew of other Covid symptoms and was so weak i couldn't get him to the truck, he is 6'2, 240 #'s, so had to call 911 for an Ambulance, he has a bad infection through out his body and in most organs including the heart, they never tested him for Covid and they were right i guess? but i thought since he is not Vaccinated it would have been the first thing they did, anyway he has Mrsa and not doing very well, so far we know he will be in the Hospital for at least 5 weeks longer, might need a heart valve replacement if they can't control the infection, he has been there almost two weeks now, if heart valve Surgery is required who knows how much longer the stay will be? the only bright side since being admitted is the Kidney's are now functioning on their own but the infection is still in his lungs, liver and heart, so far it's a mystery for where or how he got the infection especially being 34 and healthy before all this started??
would rather have it & not need it then need it & not have it
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Not looking like we're going to get a Memorial Day Spike

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I don't really think they are testing much anymore,
my youngest (34) is in the hospital, original symptoms were fever for more than a week , muscle aches, respiratory issues and a slew of other Covid symptoms and was so weak i couldn't get him to the truck, he is 6'2, 240 #'s, so had to call 911 for an Ambulance, he has a bad infection through out his body and in most organs including the heart, they never tested him for Covid and they were right i guess? but i thought since he is not Vaccinated it would have been the first thing they did, anyway he has Mrsa and not doing very well, so far we know he will be in the Hospital for at least 5 weeks longer, might need a heart valve replacement if they can't control the infection, he has been there almost two weeks now, if heart valve Surgery is required who knows how much longer the stay will be? the only bright side since being admitted is the Kidney's are now functioning on their own but the infection is still in his lungs, liver and heart, so far it's a mystery for where or how he got the infection especially being 34 and healthy before all this started??
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Oh sweetie. I am sorry.

Mrsa is just like the fungus issue. COVID-19 is an hiv type thing.

Zeph got a bone infection from back to back viruses. Had I not yelled and hollered... he would have lost his leg.
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Re: Look... I get it.... the US looks mighty perty normal. Don’t let your guard down. Covid 19 ain’t just about one point in time.
can i ask a dumb question on these "incentives" ... mayb 2?

how the F can they afford to do that? with society intact and ppl working,most states were near broke before rthe virus. where did this extra $$ come from? they all dug up a new gold mine?

i wanta know how that works so i can b rich tomorrow.

is this a contest to see which state can vax the most? why else would they all push such strategies? even if the vax worked, this way seems flawed. too much push so ppl will think CT's. which goes against the point.

is the prize a room in bunkervill for the governor that kills the most? it defies logic.
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JAZZz50, it's only six winners, not everybody. Not sure who you could sue? Vaccine manufacturers have been held harmless for decades in the USA. California, for one, had a 75 billion budget surplus last month that will certainly cover a few "incentives".... [link to www.politico.com (secure)]

There appears to be a magical thinking idea that if we reach 70% vaccinated, then the RO dips below 1? Of course, this does not account for Delta or Delta on steroids.

There have been about 480 thousand deaths from covid in the 65 and over age group. How much money do you think has been and will be saved in social security payments and Medicare?
Medicare is about $11,500 per year per person. My guess is Social security is about $15,000 per year per person.

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Vermont goes Green...

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Not looking like we're going to get a Memorial Day Spike

burnit
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I don't really think they are testing much anymore,
my youngest (34) is in the hospital, original symptoms were fever for more than a week , muscle aches, respiratory issues and a slew of other Covid symptoms and was so weak i couldn't get him to the truck, he is 6'2, 240 #'s, so had to call 911 for an Ambulance, he has a bad infection through out his body and in most organs including the heart, they never tested him for Covid and they were right i guess? but i thought since he is not Vaccinated it would have been the first thing they did, anyway he has Mrsa and not doing very well, so far we know he will be in the Hospital for at least 5 weeks longer, might need a heart valve replacement if they can't control the infection, he has been there almost two weeks now, if heart valve Surgery is required who knows how much longer the stay will be? the only bright side since being admitted is the Kidney's are now functioning on their own but the infection is still in his lungs, liver and heart, so far it's a mystery for where or how he got the infection especially being 34 and healthy before all this started??
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MRE

Kinda' at a loss for words

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Not looking like we're going to get a Memorial Day Spike

burnit
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I don't really think they are testing much anymore,
my youngest (34) is in the hospital, original symptoms were fever for more than a week , muscle aches, respiratory issues and a slew of other Covid symptoms and was so weak i couldn't get him to the truck, he is 6'2, 240 #'s, so had to call 911 for an Ambulance, he has a bad infection through out his body and in most organs including the heart, they never tested him for Covid and they were right i guess? but i thought since he is not Vaccinated it would have been the first thing they did, anyway he has Mrsa and not doing very well, so far we know he will be in the Hospital for at least 5 weeks longer, might need a heart valve replacement if they can't control the infection, he has been there almost two weeks now, if heart valve Surgery is required who knows how much longer the stay will be? the only bright side since being admitted is the Kidney's are now functioning on their own but the infection is still in his lungs, liver and heart, so far it's a mystery for where or how he got the infection especially being 34 and healthy before all this started??
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Aw hon. I'm so sorry. My youngest son is the same age and about the same size. Y'all are in my prayers. Staff, too.

Keep us posted, if you can. I wish I had better words for you. My heart is heavy. hugs
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UK COVID update: New cases continue to rise, up 49% from last week

- New cases: 11,007
- Average: 8,404 (+516)
- In hospital: 1,319 (+75)
- In ICU: 210 (+1)
- New deaths: 19

Population vaccinated:
- 1st dose: 63.20% (+0.29)
- 2nd dose: 45.92% (+0.35)

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TB, we broke record low today. record from 1948.not complaining. felt hot at 70. no i don't have menopause.
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ARM like u never have before.
there is 1 force of magic left to counter whatever comes.

it is time to call GHOSTBUSTERS to build this city with rock n roll. turn every radio and stereo on in this whole damn world. mayb just mayb it works again.
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TB, we broke record low today. record from 1948.not complaining. felt hot at 70. no i don't have menopause.
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Did you really!? I forgot to see what ours was and I'm not buying what my phone says. It was chilly last night and this morning. We're 81 right now. Bad T-storms for tomorrow. Figures. I have most of my plants out.
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40 last night. some areas in the hills said they hada light frost but didn't hurt any plants.
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

ARM like u never have before.
there is 1 force of magic left to counter whatever comes.

it is time to call GHOSTBUSTERS to build this city with rock n roll. turn every radio and stereo on in this whole damn world. mayb just mayb it works again.
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40 last night. some areas in the hills said they hada light frost but didn't hurt any plants.
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I listen to Detroit radio. It comes in better than Toledo or Cleveland. They were in the 40's too.

My phone says our low was 69. I don't think so. It was colder than that this morning. I wish I'd have looked though.
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40 last night. some areas in the hills said they hada light frost but didn't hurt any plants.
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40 sounds lovely to me! It is sweltering down here.

We had a message from the electric company asking for people to move their thermostats up to 78 and not run major appliances during the afternoon/evening.
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Not looking like we're going to get a Memorial Day Spike

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I don't really think they are testing much anymore,
my youngest (34) is in the hospital, original symptoms were fever for more than a week , muscle aches, respiratory issues and a slew of other Covid symptoms and was so weak i couldn't get him to the truck, he is 6'2, 240 #'s, so had to call 911 for an Ambulance, he has a bad infection through out his body and in most organs including the heart, they never tested him for Covid and they were right i guess? but i thought since he is not Vaccinated it would have been the first thing they did, anyway he has Mrsa and not doing very well, so far we know he will be in the Hospital for at least 5 weeks longer, might need a heart valve replacement if they can't control the infection, he has been there almost two weeks now, if heart valve Surgery is required who knows how much longer the stay will be? the only bright side since being admitted is the Kidney's are now functioning on their own but the infection is still in his lungs, liver and heart, so far it's a mystery for where or how he got the infection especially being 34 and healthy before all this started??
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Sorry MRE. Hoping for the a speedy and complete recovery.
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40 last night. some areas in the hills said they hada light frost but didn't hurt any plants.
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40 sounds lovely to me! It is sweltering down here.

We had a message from the electric company asking for people to move their thermostats up to 78 and not run major appliances during the afternoon/evening.
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When we would get them, the best I could manage was 74 and THAT was miserable in the 100's! I love Texas, but there is so much I don't miss. Heat, dust, tumbleweeds, coyotes.....I do miss my son and my friends. I'll just call them! LOL
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40 last night. some areas in the hills said they hada light frost but didn't hurt any plants.
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40 sounds lovely to me! It is sweltering down here.

We had a message from the electric company asking for people to move their thermostats up to 78 and not run major appliances during the afternoon/evening.
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i found the problem-

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ARM like u never have before.
there is 1 force of magic left to counter whatever comes.

it is time to call GHOSTBUSTERS to build this city with rock n roll. turn every radio and stereo on in this whole damn world. mayb just mayb it works again.
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the animal CT continues. now the cats are in on it. stealing masks so ppl get sick with virus.

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ARM like u never have before.
there is 1 force of magic left to counter whatever comes.

it is time to call GHOSTBUSTERS to build this city with rock n roll. turn every radio and stereo on in this whole damn world. mayb just mayb it works again.
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I stay out of politics.
But this is just too much.
Nothing but trying scapegoat and cover their own asses.
Only now that the digging is starting to occur are they talking.
Or maybe the rumors about Dong Jingwei are true?

Scientists Admit Lab-Leak Hypothesis Was Valid Last Year - But Kept Quiet Because Of Trump

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i don't think it is TRUMP's fault that DR F is an idiot and trying to kill us all.
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ARM like u never have before.
there is 1 force of magic left to counter whatever comes.

it is time to call GHOSTBUSTERS to build this city with rock n roll. turn every radio and stereo on in this whole damn world. mayb just mayb it works again.
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Re: Look... I get it.... the US looks mighty perty normal. Don’t let your guard down. Covid 19 ain’t just about one point in time.
I stay out of politics.
But this is just too much.
Nothing but trying scapegoat and cover their own asses.
Only now that the digging is starting to occur are they talking.
Or maybe the rumors about Dong Jingwei are true?

Scientists Admit Lab-Leak Hypothesis Was Valid Last Year - But Kept Quiet Because Of Trump

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We be no less fooked.
Doom Level: Malcontent Mink

Just do your best. And be a decent soul. Don’t forget the comfort food.

Okay.... it’s taking longer than I thought. Eek. This sucks.

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Re: Look... I get it.... the US looks mighty perty normal. Don’t let your guard down. Covid 19 ain’t just about one point in time.
Moscow reports 9,056 new coronavirus cases, the biggest one-day increase on record

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