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Sars Cov 2 … the grinder continues to eat away at resources and humanity.

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Guythu

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In the 2022 Monkeyvirus virus we see only a few completely random mutations compared to Monkeyvirus collect in 2017-2019 from human infections. But we see a lot of mutations that are caused by our innate immune system "chewing" up the DNA at specific sites.

More importantly we see a large deletion in a gene known to be involved in host transmission and is very possibly responsible for increased transmission between humans (yet to be proven for this virus but proven to cause increased transmission to new hosts in other viruses).

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Monkeypox at 260 cases (confirmed and suspected).

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Da fuq?!

Yeah...no!



Nope, just nope.
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Resveratrol Suppresses MPXV Replication

We examined the effect of resveratrol on MPXV replication. HeLa cells were infected with MPXV-WA and MPXV-ROC, respectively, at an MOI of 1 in the presence of a series of concentrations of resveratrol and the viral titers were measured 24 hpi. As shown in Figures 3A,B, 50 μM resveratrol reduced the virus yield of MPXV-WA and MPXV-ROC clades by 195- and 38-fold, respectively. The IC50 was 12.41 μM for WA strain and 15.23 μM for ROC strain (Table 2). The inhibitory effect of MPXV replication by resveratrol was comparable to the well-characterized orthopoxvirus (OPXV) inhibitor, AraC, in the corresponding parallel experiments (Figure 3).
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Reseveratrol inhibits reproduction of the orthopoxviruses. The ancient remedy and prophylactic for smallpox was cream of tartar. I have not looked into it, but considering that resveratrol comes from wine, and cream of tartar comes from the residue left in emptied wine casks, there is almost certainly a link there. Perhaps there is resveratrol or a similar compound in cream of tartar.

Something to remember if supplies of resveratrol dry up in coming weeks.
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All I drink is wine for my alcoholic intake. Does this mean I might fare well? Daily drinker so......guess we'll see
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TWO-HUNDRED people are being monitored for monkeypox infection in Massachusetts after coming into contact with the confirmed case, CDC says, amid warnings virus may have been spreading for months globally.

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shocked
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Da fuq?!

Yeah...no!



Nope, just nope.
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So basically..
The monkey is out of the bottle.
And it’s being compared to Covid as “unlikely”
Not the most confident statements being made.

Monkeypox patient in Boston had contact with 200 people, CDC says

He has been getting treatment at Massachusetts General Hospital since May 12.
...
"I think right now we are hoping to maximize vaccine distribution to those that we know would benefit from it. So those are people who have had contact with a non-monkeypox patient, healthcare workers, very close personal contact, and those in particular who might be at high risk for severe disease,"
...
"It is unlikely to create any kind of the impact that we seen with COVID. That being said, any emerging infectious disease that comes out of animal populations and back to humans is something for us to be concerned about,

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Da fuq?!

Yeah...no!



Nope, just nope.
 Quoting: Simple27

 Quoting: CleverCreator


So basically..
The monkey is out of the bottle.
And it’s being compared to Covid as “unlikely”
Not the most confident statements being made.

Monkeypox patient in Boston had contact with 200 people, CDC says

He has been getting treatment at Massachusetts General Hospital since May 12.
...
"I think right now we are hoping to maximize vaccine distribution to those that we know would benefit from it. So those are people who have had contact with a non-monkeypox patient, healthcare workers, very close personal contact, and those in particular who might be at high risk for severe disease,"
...
"It is unlikely to create any kind of the impact that we seen with COVID. That being said, any emerging infectious disease that comes out of animal populations and back to humans is something for us to be concerned about,

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“The CDC worked really quickly to sequence the virus from the Massachusetts patient and within 48 hours, we had determined that it closely matched the sequence being reported from a Portugal patient,”

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I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

We all love green, thanks in advance :)

So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking.

We all love green. Thanks in advance :)
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I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

We all love green, thanks in advance :)

So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking.

We all love green. Thanks in advance :)
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Breaking news: President Biden said the U.S. would defend Taiwan militarily if China invaded, appearing to step away from a policy of “strategic ambiguity.”

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Apparently Biden “misspoke” ???
Of the things to misspeak on this is not one of them.
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Guess they aren’t buying it.

JUST IN - Chinese and Russian warplanes enter South Korea's Air Defence Zone without notice, Yonhap reports.

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good morning, not sure how many of u are reading the MP pages. try to give u a quick update based on the reports up to last night.

been a lot of double talk and playing with wording yesterday and over the wkend. based on the way #'s are reported with covid, the #'s for the pox were lower than expected. there are several more countries with cases and more cases than what the official reports show. and as we posted here, lots more being monitored.

govern's are kicking the can on this and hoping it doesn't blow up. they have 2 big bets 1> the small pox vaccine will work and stop the MP. 2> the MP runs 6 layers of infection then dies out on its own. so the normal MP infects 1, that 1 infects another and so on out 6 times than stops.

this ain't normal MP thou. if this is covid pox, a merge of the covid with the monkey pox, their bets are way off the mark. granted a lot depends on what changed in the MP. too early to know for sure what traits the new version has. it also could just b a MP+, plus being that the vax has changed it and it only affects vaxed ppl with lowered immune systems.

MSM has mentioned it on their nightly news. very briefly and downplaying it. "nobody has died" in the West countries from MP... due to our medical services and treatements. so far the pox is mostly in gay ppl who were at a spa resort overseas.

so far most govern's are handling this just as bad as they did with covid at the start. letting it spread but monitoring the situation. betting it won't blow up. changing their own rules as to how med workers will deal with infected patients and who should isolate.

i have no confidence in our CDC. can hope this doesn't become a major outbreak and isn't covid pox. if it does go airborne, children will b infected quickly this time instead of old ppl. it also would affect working age ppl more so than covid at the start. even with a low death rate, the up to 10% is higher than covid. the boils/ sores will scare the public more than the assymptomatic way covid infected ppl. very concerning to the supply chains. most likely if it is as contagious as OMI, then the death rate would b lowered.

based on yesterday and unless something big happens, i expect they will kick this to after the holiday wkend. there are some isolated pockets of odd virus diseases popping up. we've seen HEP and the HF plus the "fever" in NK. appears covid is starting to merge with other viruses. not good signs of our future, but for now we can hope the merges stay isolated and short lived.
JAZZZ50

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we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Do we know the R0 number for Monkeypox yet?
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Seems very high when attending some of the raves in Europe.
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Covid can cause ongoing damage to heart, lungs and kidneys, study finds
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Covid can cause ongoing damage to heart, lungs and kidneys, study finds
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it is starting to scare me on how many times we have been right. i want to b wrong cause going forward gets ugly and very dark. no unicorns is bad enuf, but merges is a nightmare.
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It's on Yahoo here: [link to uk.news.yahoo.com (secure)]

The NHS has issued a warning to meat eaters amid a “significant and concerning” outbreak of monkeypox in the UK.

According to the NHS website, monkeypox can be spread by touching clothing, bedding or towels used by an infected person, touching monkeypox blisters or scabs or the coughs and sneezes of a person infected by the disease.

However, the infection can also be spread by animals and eating meat
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JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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So monkey pox is in the meat but covid isn't?

hmm
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So monkey pox is in the meat but covid isn't?

hmm
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well i do hate being right. yesterday somewhere, i posted all meat would have to b thrown away if an outbreak happens at a meat plant. like we had in the early days of covid.

my big concern is how it is "in the meat". covid was in the air and they thought it didn't survive on surfaces long. MP survives longer in air and on surfaces. so my math says it can float down from the air onto meat. if this is skin to skin infecting, all u have to do is touch the contaminated meat with your hands.

that is a nightmare scenario and i do hope we get more intel on it. it would change the game.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Remember for weeks the WHO was saying Covid wasn't airborne
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Yep, but it actually took them two years. It all turned out to be because of some ridiculous assumptions and misunderstandings.

Here's a good run down of the whole farce.

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JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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An old schoolfriend of mine just said this on a FB thread of mine where I brought up those strict guidelines ParamedicUK posted for people in his field...

"I’ve heard from friends who are in healthcare that the advice is extreme. Apparently they have to isolate even if they’ve changed the bedding of a confirmed case without wearing PPE.
Some healthcare professionals are being made to isolate in specialist units."
 Quoting: Miss Pixie


do we guess if these ppl were exposed due to them stirring it back up into the air or they touched the bedding with hands and no gloves?
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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I am sooo glad to b living on the edge of this safe zone. and proud of the decisions i've made thus far. has kept the GF and me safe and covid free. ain't been easy but is working.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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TWO-HUNDRED people are being monitored for monkeypox infection in Massachusetts after coming into contact with the confirmed case, CDC says, amid warnings virus may have been spreading for months globally.

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 Quoting: JAZZz50


That's it; I'm calling it: This isn't being spread by sexual contact. It's airborne.
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TWO-HUNDRED people are being monitored for monkeypox infection in Massachusetts after coming into contact with the confirmed case, CDC says, amid warnings virus may have been spreading for months globally.

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That's it; I'm calling it: This isn't being spread by sexual contact. It's airborne.
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I agree...pretty easy call! Might have to find a can of Monkey Soup for my siggy now....bert-facepalm
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TWO-HUNDRED people are being monitored for monkeypox infection in Massachusetts after coming into contact with the confirmed case, CDC says, amid warnings virus may have been spreading for months globally.

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That's it; I'm calling it: This isn't being spread by sexual contact. It's airborne.
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Exactly
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TWO-HUNDRED people are being monitored for monkeypox infection in Massachusetts after coming into contact with the confirmed case, CDC says, amid warnings virus may have been spreading for months globally.

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That's it; I'm calling it: This isn't being spread by sexual contact. It's airborne.
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That's my thinking, too.
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You are doing a great job, Jazz....in your personal life and here on GLP. Thank you for the information.

I don't know if you guys have discussed this, but the symptoms for Monkeypox seem to be similiar to the flu or Covid (before the blisters start). The telltale sign, however, is swollen lymphnodes on the neck or groin.
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not today i'm not. am behind. by the time i caught up this morning, they wrote 5 more pages. with everything else i have going on i might b caught up enuf to breath normal by TUES. but that day got stolen already so it's a blitze still. LOL.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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And it's definitely airborne if you are in close proximity to someone. That's not the real definition of airborne, though. But still.

Fomites are also an issue. Bedding, towels, etc. Think about hotels during tourist season.
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i'm more concerned with the skin than airborne. we all do wear masks. but who wears a full suit?
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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You are doing a great job, Jazz....in your personal life and here on GLP. Thank you for the information.

I don't know if you guys have discussed this, but the symptoms for Monkeypox seem to be similiar to the flu or Covid (before the blisters start). The telltale sign, however, is swollen lymphnodes on the neck or groin.
 Quoting: Serenity Now


I talked about it with my fam today. We want to know for sure a person cannot spread it during incubation time. We read you can't, but I'd like to be reassured.

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I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

We all love green, thanks in advance :)

So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking.

We all love green. Thanks in advance :)
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You are doing a great job, Jazz....in your personal life and here on GLP. Thank you for the information.

I don't know if you guys have discussed this, but the symptoms for Monkeypox seem to be similiar to the flu or Covid (before the blisters start). The telltale sign, however, is swollen lymphnodes on the neck or groin.
 Quoting: Serenity Now


I talked about it with my fam today. We want to know for sure a person cannot spread it during incubation time. We read you can't, but I'd like to be reassured.
 Quoting: Moniker Shmoniker


You aren't alone, kiddo. So many questions and very few answers right now.





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