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The particles ride on water droplets and they do get caught in the mask

Maybe not all

But would you get surgery by a doctor without a mask
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…“even trained medical staff dislike wearing them for more than a few hours. As two doctors wrote in a commentary in August, “when worn properly, N95 masks are suffocating, uncomfortable, and difficult to tolerate for long durations.”

.. The overall evidence is clear: Standard cloth and surgical masks offer next to no protection against virus-sized particles or small aerosols.”

“Clinical trials consistently find that masks don’t protect people from respiratory viruses.”

..Mask wearing “did not reduce, at conventional levels of statistical significance, the incidence of Sars-Cov-2 infection,”

..“mask mouth,” a new syndrome Dentists report seeing caused by the moisture trapped in face masks, which creates a petri dish of breeding ground for bacteria, as it is in place directly over your mouth. Constant mask-wearing is leading to all kinds of dental disasters like decaying teeth, receding gum lines and seriously sour breath. Long-term mask wearing also is causing persistent coughing, as well as dermatitis on the skin around the mouth..

“The not-so-good reason is that making people wear masks frightens them. Frightens us. Masks are warnings none of us can escape. This virus is different. This virus is dangerous. This virus is not the flu. We had better hunker down until a vaccine is ready to save us all. But the worst reason of all is that mask mandates appear to be an effort by governments to find out what restrictions on their civil liberties people will accept on the thinnest possible evidence. They are the not-so-thin edge of the wedge. Today, we must wear masks. Tomorrow we’ll need negative Covid tests to travel between countries. Or vaccines to go to work. I wish masks worked. I wish we didn’t have to fight about them. But they don’t. And we do.”

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 Quoting: DeploraVision ™




I wear an N95 mask up to 12 hours straight while flying between the US and SE Asia several times in the last year. No problem for me plus I have been wearing only N95s since January 2020 when my physician cousin told me to.

Correcto mundo on the surgical masks and cloth gadders....

Those masks are to mimic you covering your mouth when you cough and breath to reduce the velocity of said to prevent spread through the area.

The N95 has an Electrostatic core that actually attracts the virus and traps it before entering your body,,,95% of the time.

Think Electrostatic Furnace Filter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56026143


Your cousin's an idiot. Shall we list all the things supposedly brilliant physicians have prescribed over the years that have killed people? The only difference between a doctor and a skilled Electrician, is that Electricians never tell you to touch the positive and negative wires attached to a power supply at the same time. Doctors often do the medical equivalent.

It's a RARE doctor that keeps learning after graduating medical school. Well, they rarely keep learning about MEDICINE after school. They spend their time learning about investing, buying boats and airplanes, etc...Not all, but MANY doctors have little medical knowledge they didn't have when they got their diploma. I've seen this first hand.

Here's a test:

Take a long drag on a cigarette (if you don't have one, ask a doctor, they probably have a pack handy), put on an N95 mask and exhale.

You'll see SMOKE coming through the mask. Do you really think that a VIRUS is BIGGER than a particle of smoke? Smoke particles are THOUSANDS of times bigger than a virus. What makes you think it's going to stop a virus? On the rare occasions I go to a grocery store these days, I wear a mask, not to be safe or to keep others safe, but just so I don't have to talk to Karens who are suffering from oxygen deprivation and want to hassle people.

Surgeons don't wear masks during surgery to stop viruses. They wear them to stop PARTICULATES from transferring from the patient to the doctor. When they're rooting around in someone's open abdomen, they don't want stuff splashing into their face. They're also to stop PARTICULATES from passing from the doctor's mouth to the INSIDES OF THE PATIENT.

Jeez. The stupidity of people astounds me. The stupidity of doctors hardly makes me look twice, these days.

Mark my words, numbnuts. Making kids wear masks for entire school days WILL have consequences. In 10 years, you will absolutely see lower IQ scores, caused by oxygen deprivation when the kids were young.

One day, Fauci and his family will be showing the videos of him saying "DON'T WEAR MASKS," which he said early in the "pandemic." They'll be trying to divert attention away from his culpability. He will be the figurehead blamed for the myriad of problems this whole farce has caused, and will be on considered the equivalent of a war criminal. He does deserve it, of course. After all, he's the one drunk on power, who gets up and says whatever keeps him in the limelight, and that will be his undoing. People will not forget his role in this crime against the American people.
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You are correct. And making kids wear masks and keep a distance from each other is going to hurt them. A thinking person can see this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79543875


Per CDC, survival rate for children 0-19 years old: 99.997%.

So we are allowing totalitarians to condition and harm them a different way.
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the fibers from many masks lodge deep into the lungs, possibly triggering COPD (emphysema) later (and possibly autoimmune problems that destroy lung tissue), for those who wear the masks much of the day.
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the fibers from many masks lodge deep into the lungs, possibly triggering COPD (emphysema) later (and possibly autoimmune problems that destroy lung tissue), for those who wear the masks much of the day.
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Yes but if you getting mask-lung disease saves just one person from getting the flu; wouldnt it be worth it?

hf
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Of course. Everyone knows this.

The mask agenda isn't about keeping you safe, it's about compliance.
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:thiss:

For those continuing to wear a face diaper, YOU are part of the problem. There never has been a "pandemic virus" of deathly pandemic proportions. FACT.

The TEST was one of the problems (there have been numerous studies on the breaking of the blood brain barrier of the nasal swab) - FACT.

Masks are about compliance ONLY. FACT.

The fake virus is about compliance and destruction of economies and Countries. FACT.

The fake virus psyop and masks are the NWO agenda to usher in the NWO in every damn Country. FACT.

Do ANY of you mask wearers remember what they called the fake virus in the beginning???? CORONAVIRUS - one of the varieites of the common cold:

"Coronavirus. These tend to do their dirty work in the winter and early spring. The coronavirus is the cause of about 20% of colds. There are more than 30 kinds, but only three or four affect people."

Here is a link for those who need it: [link to www.webmd.com (secure)]

STOP THE MASK BULLSHIT. LIVE YOUR LIFE!!!

hf
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The particles ride on water droplets and they do get caught in the mask

Maybe not all

But would you get surgery by a doctor without a mask
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The surgeon is not wearing a mask day in and day out. And certainly not the same one. And they don’t wear cloth ones.
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Free thinking logical people know this already, but thanks for saying again OP.

Adding up the facts, and projected outcome, I’m thinking probably best to remain silent about this, and let satan have his way.

Can you imagine the world with fewer and fewer idiots among us?

Yes, let them have their mask, hell for that natter - let them wear two mask..
Maybe their thinking will graduate to three mask

It’s been confirmed - wearing just one medical grade mask properly can drop body oxygen levels to 93%.

92% or lower O2 levels, things like strokes, heart attack and the start of organ failures can be expected.

I carry a mask just in case I find myself in close proximity to someone sucking snot, or caught NG up a lung. In both cases, I put it on, and excuse myself from the area pronto.

This is the only mask game I play.
Just not practicing the other associated bafoonery,,,
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3 micron holes don't block .7 micron virus particles. Electrostatic doesn't work when moist, you you exhale moist air?
Military grade canisters would work with limited hours.
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Do we exhale bare .7 micron particles, or is the particle surrounded by some sort of mucus material? How big would that make it?
I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you.



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WTF is the California Globe. C’mon GLP, you have to be smarter than this.
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I refuse to wear a mask, but if you're required to wear one, look for cotton mesh masks. I found some that are 100% breathable. No filters, or liners.
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We are responsible for our own health.

This is why I wear an N95 mask and gloves in public. I'm worth it.

I will take all precautions to extend my life for my children and future grandchildren. I don't give a fuck if some antimasktard is going to point at me, I can flip them off with my gloved middle finger.
 Quoting: Agent 99


Will you wear them everyday for the rest of your life? Or only when ‘they’ tell you to?
Warning: JustSomeGuy_42 is a publicly confessed unvaxxed neophiliac .

If the number 666 is considered evil.
then technically, 25.8069758 is the root
of all evil.
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I only wear N95 or N100 masks. I wear them to protect myself, regardless of what the others around me are wearing. Most people don't realize that a simple surgical mask will not protect you from others. The surgical mask is to protect others from your droplets when you breathe, talk, cough, and so forth. If everyone is wearing a surgical mask properly, then we all have some protection from the droplets, but it only takes one person not wearing or improperly wearing a mask, to put all of those wearing a surgical mask at risk.
 Quoting: FireStorm_Fury


That is incorrect. They provide little protection for yourself. The main purpose of masks is to protect others from yourself. Masks absorb the virus-carried drops of water vapour in the exhaled breath before they reach others. They do not absorb free viruses because the latter are too small to be trapped. That is why you will still breath in such free viruses even if you are wearing a mask. It is vital therefore that the other people around you wear masks in order to reduce as much as possible the concentration of virus-carried water droplets that they exhale so as to MINIMISE (not stop altogether) the chance of you breathing in these particles.

The trouble with you anti-maskers is that you are using the wrong argument, for you failed to understand that wearing masks is meant to help everyone else, not YOU!
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Well that seems to be working for the flu virus but not so much for COVID-19.
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I refuse to wear a mask, but if you're required to wear one, look for cotton mesh masks. I found some that are 100% breathable. No filters, or liners.
 Quoting: DeploraVision ™


Yup. If you have to wear one then those are good.
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NO KIND OF MAASK GONNA STOP PARTICLES MEASURED IN MILLIMICRONS ALL THEY DO IS STOP SNEEZE COUGH DROOPLETSFROM GETTING ON STORE SURFACES SPREADING LKIE THAT6
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Scientifically incorrect. What is relevant for filtering is NOT the size of the virus but the size of the fine water droplets in the exhaled breath that capture viruses in the saliva. It is the DROPLETS of water that are absorbed by the material in the mask, NOT the much smaller, free viruses themselves. The material in the mask is designed to absorb these larger molecules. That is why surgeons and staff wear masks during medical operations: they are to protect the patient from whatever viruses his breath might carry, NOT the surgeon or staff from their patient.

All you anti-maskers are suffering from the fallacious belief that masks are meant to protect YOU. They never were. Instead, they are meant to protect people close to you from inhaling YOUR breath. Geddit? YOUR breath. By having everyone (or as many as possible) wearing masks, that reduces the risk of those around you from inhaling virus-carrying that YOU exhale.
The mask is meant primarily to protect others from YOU, not you from OTHERS. By protecting others, you help to protect yourself.

Geddit it, finally?
 Quoting: Superstrings R' Us


You did not think this through far enough.

If droplets are caught in the mask, the water content eventually evaporates. When the watery particles have evaporated to the extent where they can fit through the porous holes as a fine aerosol, the virions within those water particles are then forcefully expelled from the fibers of the mask by the force of your exhalation.

The only way to prevent you from expelling virions into the air (if you are actually infected that is), is to wear a full respirator.

Now, it is true that to some degree, an n95 mask will reduce the amount of virions that you expell into the atmosphere.

But you need to read up on the studies which show that all it takes is ONE VIRION of a respiratory flu virus to be inhaled in order to replicate and infect a person who is susceptible.

ONE.

And since wearing an N-95 mask does not prevent the inhalation of aerosolized virions, even a person wearing an n-95 will still breath in a virion that you exhale.

Thanks for playing.
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The particles ride on water droplets and they do get caught in the mask

Maybe not all

But would you get surgery by a doctor without a mask
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And the only the largest particles get caught and then as your mask moistens you continue to push that vapor out. Also some of the particles go straight up where you mask is touches your cheeks and then projects further and stays in the air longer.
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Of course. Everyone knows this.

The mask agenda isn't about keeping you safe, it's about compliance.
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In your opinion.

Tylenol is to take away your headache, or compliance.
Bandaids will stop bleeding and cover a cut, or compliance.

Let's go in circles because you think your opinion is so important and you are doing such a service to the world for expressing your opinion.
 Quoting: Agent 99


Will you get fined if you don't make your headache go away?
Will you go to jail if you don't stop bleeding?
Mask are all about compliance.
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Of course. Everyone knows this.

The mask agenda isn't about keeping you safe, it's about compliance.
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:masks19:hesright
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I have been getting btested 2-3 x per week for my job and am wondering if any studies have been done to determine how many weekly Covid tests are TOO many
We all have runny noses afterwards and headaches
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Quit being a compliant zombie.
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We are responsible for our own health.

This is why I wear an N95 mask and gloves in public. I'm worth it.

I will take all precautions to extend my life for my children and future grandchildren. I don't give a fuck if some antimasktard is going to point at me, I can flip them off with my gloved middle finger.
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N95 masks won't prevent Covid,because Covid isn't real.

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Masks don't do squat. If they just insist no mask equals no service, wear a freaking bandana. What can they say? Look up if it is even LEGAL to require a mask in your state of county as their are local ordinances that BAN masks due to the Ku Klux Klan and Antifa.

Quit being a fucking idiot and pussy.
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3 micron holes don't block .7 micron virus particles. Electrostatic doesn't work when moist, you you exhale moist air?
Military grade canisters would work with limited hours.
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Do we exhale bare .7 micron particles, or is the particle surrounded by some sort of mucus material? How big would that make it?
 Quoting: Pilgrim001


At the height of virus production you'll get bare virus from the epithelial cells if the respiratory system!
But sure, they can be exhaled in moisture droplets, mucus, etc. There are 10 million ribosomes per cell that make 10 million virus within hours! And each one of those virus are looking for another cell to infect in the same way.

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I only wear N95 or N100 masks. I wear them to protect myself, regardless of what the others around me are wearing. Most people don't realize that a simple surgical mask will not protect you from others. The surgical mask is to protect others from your droplets when you breathe, talk, cough, and so forth. If everyone is wearing a surgical mask properly, then we all have some protection from the droplets, but it only takes one person not wearing or improperly wearing a mask, to put all of those wearing a surgical mask at risk.
 Quoting: FireStorm_Fury


That is incorrect. They provide little protection for yourself. The main purpose of masks is to protect others from yourself. Masks absorb the virus-carried drops of water vapour in the exhaled breath before they reach others. They do not absorb free viruses because the latter are too small to be trapped. That is why you will still breath in such free viruses even if you are wearing a mask. It is vital therefore that the other people around you wear masks in order to reduce as much as possible the concentration of virus-carried water droplets that they exhale so as to MINIMISE (not stop altogether) the chance of you breathing in these particles.

The trouble with you anti-maskers is that you are using the wrong argument, for you failed to understand that wearing masks is meant to help everyone else, not YOU!
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Idiot did you even read my post!
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I only wear N95 or N100 masks. I wear them to protect myself, regardless of what the others around me are wearing. Most people don't realize that a simple surgical mask will not protect you from others. The surgical mask is to protect others from your droplets when you breathe, talk, cough, and so forth. If everyone is wearing a surgical mask properly, then we all have some protection from the droplets, but it only takes one person not wearing or improperly wearing a mask, to put all of those wearing a surgical mask at risk.
 Quoting: FireStorm_Fury


That is incorrect. They provide little protection for yourself. The main purpose of masks is to protect others from yourself. Masks absorb the virus-carried drops of water vapour in the exhaled breath before they reach others. They do not absorb free viruses because the latter are too small to be trapped. That is why you will still breath in such free viruses even if you are wearing a mask. It is vital therefore that the other people around you wear masks in order to reduce as much as possible the concentration of virus-carried water droplets that they exhale so as to MINIMISE (not stop altogether) the chance of you breathing in these particles.

The trouble with you anti-maskers is that you are using the wrong argument, for you failed to understand that wearing masks is meant to help everyone else, not YOU!
 Quoting: Superstrings R' Us


Idiot did you even read my post!
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You are responsible for YOURSELF and not everyone else.

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They don't provide much protection from a virus and yet the mask Nazis still try to force us to wear them.

A better solution would be for people who are afraid of the Chinese Virus to wear a plastic bubble. They can be safe from the Chinese Virus and they don't have to harass people who enjoy the opportunity to breathe free.

It's a win/win for everybody.

Mask Nazis get better protection against the Chinese virus and don't have to look like asshole buttinskis to the sane people who understand that masks are pretty much worthless in stopping the Chinese Virus.
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I only wear N95 or N100 masks. I wear them to protect myself, regardless of what the others around me are wearing. Most people don't realize that a simple surgical mask will not protect you from others. The surgical mask is to protect others from your droplets when you breathe, talk, cough, and so forth. If everyone is wearing a surgical mask properly, then we all have some protection from the droplets, but it only takes one person not wearing or improperly wearing a mask, to put all of those wearing a surgical mask at risk.
 Quoting: FireStorm_Fury


That is incorrect. They provide little protection for yourself. The main purpose of masks is to protect others from yourself. Masks absorb the virus-carried drops of water vapour in the exhaled breath before they reach others. They do not absorb free viruses because the latter are too small to be trapped. That is why you will still breath in such free viruses even if you are wearing a mask. It is vital therefore that the other people around you wear masks in order to reduce as much as possible the concentration of virus-carried water droplets that they exhale so as to MINIMISE (not stop altogether) the chance of you breathing in these particles.

The trouble with you anti-maskers is that you are using the wrong argument, for you failed to understand that wearing masks is meant to help everyone else, not YOU!
 Quoting: Superstrings R' Us


Idiot did you even read my post!
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You are responsible for YOURSELF and not everyone else.

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