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Thoughts on Johnson and Johnson vaccine

 
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[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]

I wish I hadn’t read that..... it uses DNA to create mRNA in your cells nucleus !!!!

Isn't that even worse?

After the vaccine is injected into a person’s arm, the adenoviruses bump into cells and latch onto proteins on their surface. The cell engulfs the virus in a bubble and pulls it inside. Once inside, the adenovirus escapes from the bubble and travels to the nucleus, the chamber where the cell’s DNA is stored.

The adenovirus pushes its DNA into the nucleus. The adenovirus is engineered so it can’t make copies of itself, but the gene for the coronavirus spike protein can be read by the cell and copied into a molecule called messenger RNA, or mRNA.

The mRNA leaves the nucleus, and the cell’s molecules read its sequence and begin assembling spike proteins......

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THIS
anyone claiming JN is more like a regular vaccine are only repeating propaganda and false information

ASTRAZENECA - JJ - SPUTNIK

all three use either human or chimp adenoviruses as the delivery vehicles for genetically modified DNA that tricks its way into THE NUCLEUS OF OUR CELLS
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end result is same as mrna

make your cell spew hook protein all over themselves

have fun with enhanced immunity
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Check out NOVAVAX vaccine
I heard was old school and coming out after all these
other big name ones
BTW Merck said NO VACCINES they are researching meds

hmmm
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Notable Johnson & Johnson Recalls

1982 - McNeil
Product Recalled - Tylenol (acetaminophen) capsules

Reason for Recall - Medicine laced with potassium cyanide (poison) resulting in several patient deaths

2009 to 2011 - McNeil
Product Recalled - Several OTC medicines including Tylenol, Motrin, Benadryl, St. Joseph aspirin, Sudafed, Pepcid, Mylanta, Rolaids, Zyrtec, Zyrtec Eye Drops (tens of millions of bottles)

Reason for Recall - Unpleasant smells causing nausea; tiny metal shards in liquid medicines; wrong ingredient levels

2010 - DePuy [Pinnacle Systems]
Product Recalled - ASR Hip Resurfacing System and ASR XL Acetabular System (metal-on-metal hip implants)

Reason for Recall - Metal poisoning (metallosis); loosening of the implant or joint dislocation; additional surgeries

2012 - Ethicon
Product Recalled - Gynecare Prolift Kit, Gynecare Prolift+M Kit, Gynecare TVT Secure and Gynecare Prosima Pelvic Floor Repair System Kit (transvaginal mesh implants)

Reason for Recall - Perforation of organs; vaginal bleeding and scarring; mesh erosion; severe pain

2013 - McNeil
Product Recalled - Motrin (ibuprofen) for infants (200,000 liquid bottles)

Reason for Recall - May contain tiny particles of plastic

2013 - Janssen
Product Recalled - Risperdal Consta (injectable antipsychotic drug) (one lot)

Reason for Recall - Routine testing showed evidence of mold

2014 - Ethicon
Product Recalled - Power Morcellators

Reason for Recall - Spread of uterine cancer; rapid progression of the disease; death

2016 - Ethicon
Product Recalled - Physiomesh flexible composite hernia mesh

Reason for Recall - Studies showed higher revision rates after implant

2017 - SterilMed
Product Recalled - Agilis Steerable Introducer Sheath (hemostatic heart valve)

Reason for Recall - Device failure due to an improper seal of the sheath hub, which can allow blood leakage, device detachment during the procedure or development of an air embolism

2019 – Johnson & Johnson
Product Recalled – 33,000 bottles of Johnson’s Baby Powder

Reason for Recall – The FDA found a small amount of asbestos — a known carcinogen — in a sample
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Shit!!!! I have composite mesh in me from my hernia. Now I have to call my surgeon and ask what brand he put in me. I had it put in last year so maybe it's a different company or it's been improved.
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I don't trust a single one if them.. period! I'm not taking the f--king vaccine! If I get covid and die from it .. so what, nobody is gonna live forever.

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Say No. Use Hydroxychloroquine + Zinc.
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Well, I’m a healthcare worker but declined the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines because i do not like the whole mRNA madness they’re using. It doesn’t sit well with me. I’ve been praying about it and my gut just says no. So, now we have the J&J approved, which is using the adenovirus to deliver parts of inactivated COVID and trigger immunity. Sounds more like a conventional vaccine. I’m curious to see what others think about this....safety, efficicacy, are you getting it, etc. thank you in advance.
 Quoting: Conspiracy Realist


Donald Trump says get your shot.

Thread: ALERT: Donald Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated for COVID during CPAC address "Everybody go get your shot"

Any questions?
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Well, I’m a healthcare worker but declined the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines because i do not like the whole mRNA madness they’re using. It doesn’t sit well with me. I’ve been praying about it and my gut just says no. So, now we have the J&J approved, which is using the adenovirus to deliver parts of inactivated COVID and trigger immunity. Sounds more like a conventional vaccine. I’m curious to see what others think about this....safety, efficicacy, are you getting it, etc. thank you in advance.
 Quoting: Conspiracy Realist


It guarentees that you will not be hospitalized or die from cov-19... and it protect's you from the new variant's, so I believe it is good enough!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76811228


PLUS you only need 1 shot (not two) win-win!!!
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efficacy is about 20-25% better than the best flu vaccine's, so it's pretty good!!
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Thanks for your 3 great posts do you work for J AND J? Good job selling your poison.
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A 99.97% survivability virus and you all are researching what vaccine is better? My immune system is better. Shove you cancer inducing shots up you arse
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the fucking puppet of Tramp gave 12 billion of USA taxpayer dollars for

VACCINE RESEARCH AND 2 BILLIONS directly to BILL AND MELINDA GATES FOUNDATION, the fucking cultist retardness and now he's demanding from his voter base to take the jab on the recent CPAC rally

GTFO
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everyone one of you posters who said this is a bad vaccine, please provide proof of your immunology degree, otherwise shut the fuck up. You antivaxers need to get COVID. What a bunch of millennial jehovah witness retards.

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If it has aborted fetal cells in it, it's part of an occult ritual.

Injecting yourself with dead children is a metaphysical abomination and in occult circles this is discussed in depth.

It blows my mind people don't realize there's something seriously wrong with them, and what is said is it shows they are cattle to do something that diabolical to themselves, justifying further enslavement.

Only an animal wouldn't realize something was wrong with that.
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Somebody here said it succinctly best : J&J is the same GMO mRNA encoding preloaded into a virus for that virus to do its work. GMO mRNA instruction set vacxes let the body do that work. Same demons, different delivery mechanism.
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No long term studies on any of the vaccines. The similar vaccines developed for SARs1 gave good immune response in cats and ferrets, but they all died from over reactive immune response when exposed to the actual virus.
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I may go with the Russian vaccine. Not going to get the DNA/mrNA vaccines.
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Check out NOVAVAX vaccine
I heard was old school and coming out after all these
other big name ones
BTW Merck said NO VACCINES they are researching meds

hmmm
 Quoting: russ59dd 5045374


Novavax is a proprietary recombinant nanoparticle vaccine technology.

You consider that "old school" or are you simply an ignorant fuckwit who has no clue what you are talking about?
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I may go with the Russian vaccine. Not going to get the DNA/mrNA vaccines.
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Sputnik vaccine is is a viral two-vector vaccine based on human adenoviruses, same as the J & J vaccine. But if you would prefer something out of a Russian virus lab that has not undergone the same very large scale trials as the J & I vaccine, you go right ahead but you won't get it in the US any time soon.
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From the guys that brought you talcum powder.
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why would people even need to choose between the vaccines, that's the fucking problem in all of it

the whole charade behind this 99,9% survival rate plandemic is against the NUREMBERG TRIAL CODES, the fucking fascists

NO PERSON SHALL BE INFRINGED WITH ANYTHING THEY SHALL NOT DEEM NECESSARY FOR THEIR HEALTH NOR WILL THEIR LIVES BE CONDITIONED WITH THE FUCKING TYRANNICAL VACCINES, YELLOW STAR COVID IMMUNITY BADGES FFS
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Why take a vaccine for a fake plandemic? You have to be incredibly ignorant to do that.
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what a bunch ignorant assholes who post here and do not know shit about science, do not have a degree and think they know everything. I bet everyone one of you live in mom's basement and wack off to porn everyday. My god the stupidity here is mind boggling. I would bet 90% never had a biology class in high school but they know it all about science.

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My thoughts are the same when i think of thoroughly used up dirty sticking chip-oil heroine addict needles, doused in Glaswegian piss and then tossed into the corner of Spuds rundown apartment.
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I keep thinking the real reason they want to get kids back in school is so they can get them vaccinated without even asking or telling the parents. I know they passed some law a few years ago or so that said kids don’t need their parent’s consent if they want a vaccine (convenient). Anyway, this J&J is the one-time shot right? And they are testing on babies right now? I am thinking this will be the one distributed through schools.
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everyone one of you posters who said this is a bad vaccine, please provide proof of your immunology degree, otherwise shut the fuck up. You antivaxers need to get COVID. What a bunch of millennial jehovah witness retards.


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You stupid dumb fuck asshole. Everything you have learned in life is FROM SOMEONE ELSE who has more knowledge than you. You don't need a degree to gather information from OTHER PEOPLE MORE QUALIFIED than you and to form an opinion based on this information.
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If you are scared of the Chinese bio-weapon, just get some Ivermectin. Many doctors are prescribing it prophylactically to prevent infection and a lot more will give it to cure the virus. All the vaccines are going to have the same problems they are supposed to cure. They all cause blood clots that can cause stokes or many other problems. A vaccine should not cause the same problem as the virus it is supposed to fight. These are all bad medicine. If you are forced to get the vaccine, take Ivermectin for a few days before and a few days after to combat the work of the poison. Also, always take a full strength aspirin every day for a few months after getting the shot. That will help prevent the clots. Taking CoQ10 every day is also a good idea, just in case you do get a clot that causes a stroke. CoQ10 will help you survive a stroke.
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I wish I hadn’t read that..... it uses DNA to create mRNA in your cells nucleus !!!!

Isn't that even worse?

After the vaccine is injected into a person’s arm, the adenoviruses bump into cells and latch onto proteins on their surface. The cell engulfs the virus in a bubble and pulls it inside. Once inside, the adenovirus escapes from the bubble and travels to the nucleus, the chamber where the cell’s DNA is stored.

The adenovirus pushes its DNA into the nucleus. The adenovirus is engineered so it can’t make copies of itself, but the gene for the coronavirus spike protein can be read by the cell and copied into a molecule called messenger RNA, or mRNA.

The mRNA leaves the nucleus, and the cell’s molecules read its sequence and begin assembling spike proteins......

 Quoting: ParamedicUK


THIS
anyone claiming JN is more like a regular vaccine are only repeating propaganda and false information

ASTRAZENECA - JJ - SPUTNIK

all three use either human or chimp adenoviruses as the delivery vehicles for genetically modified DNA that tricks its way into THE NUCLEUS OF OUR CELLS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80082437


end result is same as mrna

make your cell spew hook protein all over themselves

have fun with enhanced immunity
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Cytokine storm is a comin.
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They're all bad. Casting one vaccine as bad, and another as 'good' is just them/you trying to normalize vaccines. We don't need them. Gates was friends with Epstein. This is a pedo agenda.
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Well, I’m a healthcare worker but declined the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines because i do not like the whole mRNA madness they’re using. It doesn’t sit well with me. I’ve been praying about it and my gut just says no. So, now we have the J&J approved, which is using the adenovirus to deliver parts of inactivated COVID and trigger immunity. Sounds more like a conventional vaccine. I’m curious to see what others think about this....safety, efficicacy, are you getting it, etc. thank you in advance.
 Quoting: Conspiracy Realist


Here’s an article of comparison
[link to www.msn.com (secure)]

An explanation of how it works

[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]

How vaccines work

[link to www.cdc.gov (secure)]

JnJ uses a weakened adenovirus to deliver neutralized genetic material from covid 19 to trigger an immune response, also from the T and B cells in the immune system - a recombinant approach.
All new vaccines are experimental now as science research progresses.

[link to www.verywellhealth.com (secure)]

I find it encouraging that in trials of almost 50K they have not noted adverse effects like the dreadful ( in my view) Pfizer and Moderna experiments

If forced or convinced to take a vax, this one would be my choice.
Will watch for reports for a while before committing

The UK seems to be doing quite well among its elderly with their Oxford chimp adenovirus. Death rate is way down
 Quoting: Reality Czar dodger007


Go look up yearly flu hospitalisation and death graphs from prior years.
They look identical - peak in January then sudden fall off
With no frigging covid shots
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Johnson & Johnson continues to sell Baby powder tainted with asbestos for tiny babies to breathe in its clouds day after day - after lawsuits from breathing problems were paid off - continues without warning for decades

Is that the type of company you would TRUST?

Women and their babies now suffering lung diseases know answer ...
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Exactly this.

But even before we get to this far in the analysis, the complete global domination brought about by the deep state to use the China virus to control us makes me not trust a damn thing at all they want us to submit to.

And the personal analysis of the virus, if it even exists, is not a big enough risk to me or anyone in my household, so I’m not going to put unknown chemicals in my body that creates a higher risk than that of the thing it’s supposed to protect me from.





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