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Meta conspiracy discussion

 
Anonymous Coward
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03/03/2021 08:43 PM
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I want to have a meta discussion on the conspiracy sphere in general. If that's not your thing then just ignore this thread. What I am referring to is the collective global situation of large scale manipulation we are all involved in, and the information war that it is built on.

At this point it is undeniable that hidden interest groups exert the real power on the globe. Even the most basic NPC has to have some concept of this after the last year of in your face scandals. Election theft, global lockdown, mass vaccinations, it's getting a little hard to deny the concept that the globe is controlled by shadow organisations pursuing their own agendas at this point.

The premise is easy enough to agree on, but that is where consensus stops and individual understanding of the situation begins to vary greatly. This individual understanding is based on a person's own research and bias, but is still coloured by the information war. To get an understanding of the larger scenario requires understanding of a multitude of different topics, and a knowledge gap in one will lead to a misunderstanding of the rest. For example, if you are unaware of how the mechanisms of finance and commerce operate, you are going to fundamentally misunderstand the baseline of the global scenario. If you base your understanding on something such as UFO research, but aren't aware of the financial history of Genoa and Venice, as seemingly unrelated as these topics might appear, you going to have an incomplete picture of what is going on. This can be extrapolated out to include occult history and theory, modern behavioural psychology, 19th century industrial monopolies, religious history, and this is just a sample.

What I am getting at is that the more versed you become in a broader range of topics, the more complete your world view begins to come, but at the same time, the more alienated you become from discussion of the global scenario with people with a greater knowledge gap. An example would be a researcher who is aware of the financial history of the current visible ruling dynasties, versus someone who has recently 'woken up' based on Qanon facebook videos. Do you see what I mean here? A good friend of mine in real life is almost unbearable to converse with about the meta-conspiracy topic, not because he is ignorant, it is the opposite, because he as spent a decade properly researching various topics any conversation with him goes off in a dozen different tangents regardless of the initial source. A person might engage him about the rona vaccine and he'll end up (without giving the other pause for reply) speaking about how we are all part of the macro-cosmic reflection of one another. You see this example played out all across the internet no matter where you go. There are people who are several levels of knowledge above others to the point where productive discussion just isn't possible because of the existing knowledge gap better them. It is my opinion that this is an intentional characteristic of the information war we are all engaged in.

So what is the solution to this? You can't have any sort of level or badge system whereby you need a certain level of knowledge of topical experience to participate. The reason for this should be obvious, it is because individual ego becomes too affected by such a grading system. "I am a higher level conspiracy theorist than you so as a result you are a pleb and don't have clearance to talk to me". How many of us have either seen or engaged in a version of this behaviour? You could attempt to create a compendium of topics which act as a prerequisite for baseline understanding of the global scenario but such as things would be so large and complex it is beyond the scope of a normal person. Joseph Farrel has spent literally a lifetime attempting such a thing in his series of books and his library spans dozens of titles. Even if it were possible, people, enough people for it to matter, just aren't going to do that much reading. I could be very wrong but it seems like there ISN'T a solution to this and that is the point. The informational nature of this war coupled with the informational overload that is the internet means that an cohesive resistance, in the form of a majority of the population being educated on the topic enough for it to matter, is impossible.

I don't so much want to get hung up on the solution aspect of this problem because it is a quagmire. I would like to hear the views of other in relation to what I am talking about. The knowledge gap between the conspiracy community in general. Have you encountered it and in what form? Do you think about it? Are you a victim of it? Do you even still want to oppose the global situation anymore? Or has the scope and complexity of the problem deterred most of us from focusing on it anymore? Is it just a problem for future generations?
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03/03/2021 09:06 PM
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No takers? Too many words?
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03/03/2021 10:19 PM
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You are making many valid points here. My interest in this has been going strong since I was a teenager in the early nineties. More or less I have the same views as then, only now I am much more versed on a variety of subjects and the doubts projected on me by others are long gone. I don't really bludgeon strangers or acquaintences with much, but I don't hide my views either.

I have been far less forgiving with my family however. And even though I have more or less predicted everything that is occurring now, for the most part they resist me as they always have. Some of them have even regressed far more than I would have ever imagined and are abandoning the values they once had, to follow their liberal authority to whatever hell it leads them to. I still try. And have found that putting things in the form of a question, is far more effective in disarming their hostility towards information that challenges them.

People have become extremely narcisstic, while actually believing the opposite about themselves. The culture has created serious cognitive decline over the last 20 years. But even when 911 happened, I knew, based on the ease of their slipping into conformity, that we were in big trouble.

My parents are practically vegetables at this point. They see no problem in aiding in the destruction of the future of their own grandchildren, if it allows them to hold on to their cherished illusions. It is quite different outside of the western world, where I am now. Family is still cherished above all else in poorer countries.

Americans in general have been living with easy money for so long, they now can't even imagine it being taken away. Hence their willingness to abandon all common sense as they wait for another daddy or mommy politician to fix it all for them. Even if that means injectimg nanoparticles into themselves. Many of my friends have really gotten fucked in the head by the cult of happiness and the cult of affluence.

There is no easy answer. Those of us who have challenged the forces of darkness all these years, I believe have truly been keeping some of these dark tides at bay. But a minute fraction of the population can't carry the weight of everyone much longer. On the other hand, more are waking up now than ever before. And the fear of these so called powers that be, is demonstrated all around.

These lyrics come to mind..

"through the fields of destruction, baptisms of fire
i've witnessed your suffering, as the battle raged higher
and though they did hurt me so bad, in the fear and alarm
you did not desert me, my brothers in arms"

enter knopfler guitar solo
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03/03/2021 10:30 PM
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I can seem quite helpless can't it. I have thought for a while it is going to consist of millions of small efforts combining to turn the tide so to speak. But like you pointed out, there seems to be the opposite effect occurring whereby people are contributing millions of small action geared at keeping the situation as it is, on top of social manipulations from TPTB.

It's a shame about the family aspect of it, once you see the larger picture it makes sense that the family unit needs to be destroyed in their point of view, makes us dependent on the State.

Would you say there is any merit to the 'death by a thousand cuts' tactic that seems to be our only recourse? Is it worth it to try and do whatever small bits we can? Or is that being outweighed by the actions of the masses to keep themselves poisoned and enslaved?
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03/03/2021 10:56 PM
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I can seem quite helpless can't it. I have thought for a while it is going to consist of millions of small efforts combining to turn the tide so to speak. But like you pointed out, there seems to be the opposite effect occurring whereby people are contributing millions of small action geared at keeping the situation as it is, on top of social manipulations from TPTB.

It's a shame about the family aspect of it, once you see the larger picture it makes sense that the family unit needs to be destroyed in their point of view, makes us dependent on the State.

Would you say there is any merit to the 'death by a thousand cuts' tactic that seems to be our only recourse? Is it worth it to try and do whatever small bits we can? Or is that being outweighed by the actions of the masses to keep themselves poisoned and enslaved?
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I don't think we really have a choice but to keep on doing what we can. For me it is an automatic response. Outcomes are irrelevamt. Intention is everything. Everything always comes down to the 11th hour doesn't it?

As long as there is darkness, I will keep shinimg a light. We owe it to all those who sacrificied for us. We owe it to those who are genuinely helpless. We owe it to our creator. And even to ourselves. There is no other way. This life is truly magic in action, not some material shitshow.





GLP