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I'm making what I'm hoping is going to be a successful loaf of Cheese Bread....I'm newish to yeast and bread dough, and what experience I do have did not come to a good end.

Since I just got myself a Ninja Professional Food Processor w/ Auto-IQ....850 watts of power....I decided to try to make some bread dough in it.

So, right outta the gate, I had good yeast activation. It made a stack of bubbles!--

https://imgur.com/WRwCQAC


Given my lack of experience in these particular things, I let the processor do all the work. Took it all out, all in one mostly cohesive ball, purportedly all ready to rise, and I kneaded it for about 1.5 more minutes.

The thing is, the dough itself, on the surface, isn't smooth like a baby's butt....isn't it supposed to be smooth like a baby's butt?....shrug

This is what it looked like before starting its rise time--


https://imgur.com/EqjEWhk



--and I just checked it, 20 or so minutes in, and it's rising up nicely!.....:cgexcited:


My question is, is it okay that it's not perfectly smooth?

Is it like that because it needed more kneading? Water?


I mean, if that's a sign the bread is going to be tough or something untohiter in the mouth, then I'm going to toss it....or maybe bake it off anyway, without the cheese, and start again tomorrow. I don't want to waste $5 worth of cheese on something that isn't going to be edible.

I've got about a half hour before I need to punch it, so hopefully someone can answer my questions.


Thank you for you help!....hf
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I wasn't crumbly on the surface though. It had the soft sheen to it.....grinning
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"Chinese bread" is racist
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"Chinese bread" is racist
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I am totally being sarcastic.
Looks great OP.
I love homemade bread!
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janice-OMG....it's already more than doubled in size....1rof1


I hope someone answers soon.....pray
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It's fine that it's not super smooth.
More kneading and stretching of the dough would give you a smoother surface, but don't worry about it. It's going to be delicious.
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It should smooth out CG.

Sticky dough is hard to work with but makes for better bread.

Good Luck!

bread
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lmfao



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What’s it looking like now? If it raises I’d defo put the cheese in it, next time you kneed it sprinkle it with flour and kneed it well before you put it into shapes it’ll be great

Bread isn’t perfectly smooth

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It's fine that it's not super smooth.
More kneading and stretching of the dough would give you a smoother surface, but don't worry about it. It's going to be delicious.
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cheer


It should smooth out CG.

Sticky dough is hard to work with but makes for better bread.

Good Luck!

bread
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It wasn't sticky at all. That's why I was wondering if I should've added more water, just a bit.


Thank you, youse guyses! I'm going for it!.....pilot
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What’s it looking like now? If it raises I’d defo put the cheese in it, next time you kneed it sprinkle it with flour and kneed it well before you put it into shapes it’ll be great

Bread isn’t perfectly smooth
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Thank you! I thought it was supposed to be smooth....hf


I'm going to punch it down, roll it out into a rectangle, spread the cheese out, roll it up, cut it in half lengthwise, then braid it!


Hopefully I can get CF to make an imgur pic of it when it's done....flower
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It should smooth out CG.

Sticky dough is hard to work with but makes for better bread.

Good Luck!

:bread:
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To clarify, sticky dough means not too much flour, which will make it easier for the co2 produced by the yeast to move the bread, giving you a better rise.

Always use a kitchen scale to measure out flour, not a measuring cup. I think it's about 4.5 ounces per 'cup' of flour. Get used to using grams as measurements. Most people have issues baking because they don't get the proportion of flour correct due to not using a scale.
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It's fine that it's not super smooth.
More kneading and stretching of the dough would give you a smoother surface, but don't worry about it. It's going to be delicious.
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cheer


It should smooth out CG.

Sticky dough is hard to work with but makes for better bread.

Good Luck!

:bread:
 Quoting: Jeffersons Blackberry



It wasn't sticky at all. That's why I was wondering if I should've added more water, just a bit.


Thank you, youse guyses! I'm going for it!.....pilot
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Paint it with half butter half milk when it comes out to make it shine
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This is the recipe I'm following, although I'm using my processor, instead of a standing mixer--

[link to redstaryeast.com (secure)]


I'm REALLY hoping it comes out excellent!.....ohyeah
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This is the recipe I'm following, although I'm using my processor, instead of a standing mixer--

[link to redstaryeast.com (secure)]


I'm REALLY hoping it comes out excellent!.....ohyeah
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Mmmmmmmmmmm - cheese bread.
Yummm.
Warm right out of the oven, slathered with butter.

Enjoy the fruits of your labour.
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Looks good. With that much butter, it should come out like croissants.
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This is the recipe I'm following, although I'm using my processor, instead of a standing mixer--

[link to redstaryeast.com (secure)]


I'm REALLY hoping it comes out excellent!.....ohyeah
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Looks kind of complicated!

I finally tried making homemade bread for the first time a couple of weeks ago when I was stuck inside during the freeze. Came out wonderful and plan to do it again this weekend.

cheers
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It should smooth out CG.

Sticky dough is hard to work with but makes for better bread.

Good Luck!

bread
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that is a haunting image. Reminds me of the young girl getting ready to slice the loaf of bread before people are due to come to their homestead - how thick can I slice it?

her father answers, soon she should be able to slice it as thick as she wants...


an early scene in the movie
Once Upon a Time in the West


cosmic, I bake only gluten-free.
Yeast is tricky without the lovely gluten which holds together the architecture of the baking loaf.

So I don't do it too often, will for Easter - the rising of the yeast is symbolic of the meaning of Easter in Eastern Europe traditions.

roll the risen dough flat, cover it with nuts-butter-sugar or apple filling or plum filling or poppy-seed filling.

roll it up so it is a loaf, or turn the ends of the loaf together to make a wreath

bake.

your bread dough looks GREAT. Once you have the recipe down, you can make SO MANY things with it!

I use the redstar rapid rise yeast.. seems better with the heavier doughs using gluten-free flours.

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Here's the recipe I followed, it's as easy as they come.

[link to www.tasteofhome.com (secure)]

One thing, my yeast didn't generate a whole lot of bubbles during proofing and I almost cancelled the project. Glad I didn't, it still came out perfect.
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It was waaay easier to braid than I thought it would be....lol, I stuck cheese all over it, along with what I had spread out.


I just put it through flippin' and floppin' hell....shhhh, it's resting for a half hour.


Then into the oven to bake!.....5a
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It should smooth out CG.

Sticky dough is hard to work with but makes for better bread.

Good Luck!

:bread:
 Quoting: Jeffersons Blackberry


that is a haunting image. Reminds me of the young girl getting ready to slice the loaf of bread before people are due to come to their homestead - how thick can I slice it?

her father answers, soon she should be able to slice it as thick as she wants...


an early scene in the movie
Once Upon a Time in the West


cosmic, I bake only gluten-free.
Yeast is tricky without the lovely gluten which holds together the architecture of the baking loaf.

So I don't do it too often, will for Easter - the rising of the yeast is symbolic of the meaning of Easter in Eastern Europe traditions.

roll the risen dough flat, cover it with nuts-butter-sugar or apple filling or plum filling or poppy-seed filling.

roll it up so it is a loaf, or turn the ends of the loaf together to make a wreath

bake.

your bread dough looks GREAT. Once you have the recipe down, you can make SO MANY things with it!

I use the redstar rapid rise yeast.. seems better with the heavier doughs using gluten-free flours.
 Quoting: beeches


Love the new avatar beeches!

hf
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It was waaay easier to braid than I thought it would be....lol, I stuck cheese all over it, along with what I had spread out.


I just put it through flippin' and floppin' hell....shhhh, it's resting for a half hour.


Then into the oven to bake!.....5a
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Almost there!

Now I'm feening for some. Almost the weekend...
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This is the recipe I'm following, although I'm using my processor, instead of a standing mixer--

[link to redstaryeast.com (secure)]


I'm REALLY hoping it comes out excellent!.....ohyeah
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Looks kind of complicated!

I finally tried making homemade bread for the first time a couple of weeks ago when I was stuck inside during the freeze. Came out wonderful and plan to do it again this weekend.

cheers
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I was a chef and personal chef when I was younger....not much in the kitchen intimidates me....yeast however?....hiding


If this comes out good, this is going to be my first accomplishment since I've retired!.....rockon
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i always make everything myself from pizza base to bread to cakes and biscuits to naan bread and pita.

if you need any tips ask.
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The type of flour you use is critical for foodies making recipes. For bread, you want bread flour. Read a good thorough article on this topic.

It should not look wet so why you want to do is use less liquid as you can always add more ad based on...humidity. This makes sense.

Did you actually watch a video on proper kneading techniques? You also do not want to overknead dough.

Read up on applying egg washes too. It makes you bread look like a European artisan bread.

Consider learning the Austrian method of creating yeast activation from raisins. That way, as long as you have raisins, likely you can make bread gen if your yeast is past date.

Challah is a spectacular looking loaf and not difficult. French brioche often impressive. A no knead bread is useful to know how to do but will have a yeastier taste. Try making French or Cuban bread as these are simple and excellent for sandwiches.

Try a dough sponge to autentically make an Italian cracker crust pizza and try making a deep dish Sicilian pizza and make a rosemary and garlic focaccia but on a grill as a challenge.

Make homemade pita bread with falafel or hummus and marinated red peppers. Make that in a skillet on the stove.

A good baker can take a dutch oven and cook on coals and make angel biscuits. A true chef can make salt rising bread. Thanks very tricky.

Consider making pastry with pearl lard or making troublesome but delicious almond paste fillen crossaints (qua son). That is a lot of hand rolling.
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looks like it needed to be kneaded. you wanted it smooth, that takes more elbow grease than a ninja can do
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honestly i think you'll be fine, nice job and buonappetito! practice makes perfect :)
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are you planning to use that dough as your yeast batch?
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It went from this......



https://imgur.com/EqjEWhk





To this......



https://imgur.com/a/psiIPHd




I said RISE UP......RISE UP!!!.....cool2
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The type of flour you use is critical for foodies making recipes. For bread, you want bread flour. Read a good thorough article on this topic.

It should not look wet so what you want to do is use less liquid as you can always add more based on...the humidity. This makes good common sense.

Did you actually watch a video on proper kneading techniques? You also do not want to overknead dough.

Read up on applying egg washes too. It makes your bread look like a European artisan bread.

Consider learning the Austrian method of creating yeast activation from raisins. That way, as long as you have raisins, likely you can make bread gen if your yeast is past date. This is also the process for making raisin wine.

Challah is a spectacular looking loaf and not difficult. French brioche often impressive. A no knead bread is useful to know how to do but will have a yeastier taste. Try making French or Cuban bread as these are simple and excellent for sandwiches.

Try a dough sponge to autentically make an Italian cracker crust pizza and try making a deep dish Sicilian pizza and make a rosemary and garlic focaccia but on a grill as a challenge.

Make homemade pita bread with falafel or hummus and marinated red peppers. Make that in a skillet on the stove.

A good baker can take a dutch oven and cook on coals and make angel biscuits. A true chef can make salt rising bread. That is very tricky.

Consider making pastry with pearl lard or making troublesome but delicious almond paste filled crossaints (qua son). That is a lot of hand rolling.
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So many errors!
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it looks normal.

why's it so yellow though?





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