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What would you like to know. Three aspects to human psychology, conscious, subconscious and the indwelling spirit. For most the spirit is not recognized. We bring with us predispositions to remake the same decisions we previously did. We attract to us and shape our reality based on the subconscious beliefs we get programmed with from birth and the decisions we make about ourselves and life. The subconscious will always win out in terms of what to create or attract to ourselves in life.

When viewed correctly life becomes an opportunity to heal change and grow, if one is given the right tools for self exploration of these programs and decisions.

Secondly we are programmed to deny Self, to look outside ourselves for approval, acceptance and information. Failure to look outside is met with disapproval, and pain both physically and emotionally. We learn to deny Self.

This is the basis of my approach to psychology, if interested in more info and discussion please do not hesitate to reply or message me. I spent 15 years teaching techniques for self observation and tools for aligning the conscious and subconscious mind. I had the average person and phycologists in attendance with amazing results.
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The shadow in psychological terms is unexpressed or banished part of our psyche. It is likely that we will have a strong reaction to those who express aspects of our shadow, as our shadow responds to its external expression in others.

State change (consciousness), consciously change your consciousness) and can be done through simple techniques. Breathing, meditating, moving your body. Are all simple ways of breaking step which swings ones angle of perception.

This work is best done when you are helped by others in different dimensions. They are able to link you to the greater you who resides beyond this plane.

Stanislav Groff is good for breath work, but get a strong tether to your soul group and it will help you with the roar and the wind which can be disconcerting and off putting at first.

If you are dissociating, then work on integration because dissociation ain’t fun unless it’s completely at will. Use your body for that.

Do be careful about “flow”, Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi is good and Flow theory is interesting but he is linked to positive psychology, which I personally find insulting in the way it trivialises the human condition and the way it culturally appropriated stuff from the ancient Greeks and Romans.

Sorry if that’s a rant.
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I'm pretty much serious...even though you're all mostly lunatics, assholes and/or living buddhas or whatever

I'm looking for someone vastly more knowledgeable and perceptive than I am on the subject. if you are a true ascended mastermind of human thought I would unironically be willing to hire. You probably don't need the work if you exist, but our actual discussions might be mutually rewarding or at least entertaining.

There was once a guy here that almost fit the profile, maybe did, idk, but he was probably cannabilized by his shady employers. Well, talking to him was very interesting because he had a novel and fundemental understanding of the subject that wasn't rehearsed or memorized.

I'm up to my asshole in raw information about psychology, it's a lot more than a sneeze which I've accumulated over the years. But I want to have an honest conversation with someone who can show me a true rendition of my shadow selves or shadow heart...

hmm

I honestly want to talk to someone that can run circles around the amount that I know, if not in the quantitative sense, in the qualitative. Which is a big ask because none of the prolific roster of experts I've spoken to has offered very much in the way of novel observations. I've had extensive and for the most part uninspiring discussions with a lot of reputable degree holding experts incapable of telling me something original. they were all smart and great in their own ways but I'm seeking a different kind of conversation.

This is a weird place to ask, but it would be way weirder asking anywhere else, so my offer stands lmao
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op do u want that some slimy yogi guy to seduce you?

Because I think that's what you want.
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I'm not going thru this crap but within the above I'd hope there's at least a few suggestions for you to take a heroic dose of shrooms. Be safe about it babe.
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As verbs the difference between predicate and predict

is that predicate is to announce or assert publicly while predict is to make a prediction: to forecast, foretell, or estimate a future event on the basis of knowledge and reasoning; to prophesy a future event on the basis of mystical knowledge or power
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Oops, forgot ..... emotion is the engine for all change and progress. That’s the really tough bit.
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Op, i read ur posts from the first five pages. Sounds like ur bored with profound depth. It always goes deeper, and the more you see, the more meaningless it becomes. Maybe instead looking for a new interesting angle, try zooming out. Get that profound simplicity. You’ll know when you’re there because it’s really funny. It’s funny how the source of something so complex comes from something so simple it’s dumb. As for how does one zoom out, how does the fish swim backwards, all those paradoxical riddles, id recommends the company of a good clown that makes you laugh at dumb shit.
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Kudos bro, bravo, so much wisdom in such few words, respect.

You've your answer right here OP.
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I am not a "master" nor do I believe that I am close to becoming one. I know more than some and less than others. I received multiple signed pieces of paper and have a few strings of letters after my name which allow me to say that I am somewhat knowledgeable in the understanding of our inner workings...much of which is less than applicable to spiritual growth but does include some of which could be of use to one going down a path of looking inward.


I am not for hire as that would be fraudulent in my field, im willing to have a friendly conversation.


You would need to define what you mean be shadow in depth first. Is it in regard to the Yungian understanding or Frued? Or are you referring to a different esoteric understanding?

The symbolic representations generally all boil down to understanding self and incorporating it into a conscious acceptance of it being apart of who you are. Going beyond that gets more into the Yungian/esoteric/Alchemical conceptualization of growth.

What are your goals? What are your striving to achieve beyond a clarification of your shadow?
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There is an inmost centre in us all,
Where truth abides in fullness; and around,
Wall upon wall, the gross flesh hems it in,
This perfect, clear perception—which is truth.
A baffling and perverting carnal mesh
Binds it, and makes all error: and, to KNOW,
Rather consists in opening out a way
Whence the imprisoned splendour may escape,
Than in effecting entry for a light
Supposed to be without.
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The shadow in psychological terms is unexpressed or banished part of our psyche. It is likely that we will have a strong reaction to those who express aspects of our shadow, as our shadow responds to its external expression in others.

State change (consciousness), consciously change your consciousness) and can be done through simple techniques. Breathing, meditating, moving your body. Are all simple ways of breaking step which swings ones angle of perception.

This work is best done when you are helped by others in different dimensions. They are able to link you to the greater you who resides beyond this plane.

Stanislav Groff is good for breath work, but get a strong tether to your soul group and it will help you with the roar and the wind which can be disconcerting and off putting at first.

If you are dissociating, then work on integration because dissociation ain’t fun unless it’s completely at will. Use your body for that.

Do be careful about “flow”, Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi is good and Flow theory is interesting but he is linked to positive psychology, which I personally find insulting in the way it trivialises the human condition and the way it culturally appropriated stuff from the ancient Greeks and Romans.

Sorry if that’s a rant.
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Glp = the larp website cruisewuflu
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truth (n.)
Old English triewð (West Saxon), treowð (Mercian) "faith, faithfulness, fidelity, loyalty; veracity, quality of being true; pledge, covenant," from Germanic abstract noun *treuwitho, from Proto-Germanic treuwaz "having or characterized by good faith," from PIE *drew-o-, a suffixed form of the root *deru- "be firm, solid, steadfast." With Germanic abstract noun suffix *-itho (see -th (2)).

Sense of "something that is true" is first recorded mid-14c. Meaning "accuracy, correctness" is from 1560s. English and most other IE languages do not have a primary verb for "speak the truth," as a contrast to lie (v.). Truth squad in U.S. political sense first attested in the 1952 U.S. presidential election campaign.
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My shadow is probably a secret ascended master genius of psychology. But after a life time of suppression, still hasn’t been integrated in who I present. I’ve destroyed relationships, ruined advancement educationally and in the workplace, and found addictions and other ways to hurt my body to quell the uneasiness of realizing my shadow.

At times I embraced and justified shadow actions like shoplifting and stealing to settle the score of the perceived injustice of my world. My shadow always acts out in ways I judge worst in matters where the theme is abuse of authority.

Throw in my ego and generational trauma and I’m pretty messy. Messy, but experienced and driven by a willingness to try to parse things out. I offer not much more than encouragement to others who are looking further beyond the mess of the day.

Beware of anyone calling themselves ascended master and anyone trying to convince you that they are here to help others. We are able to walk beside and share what we’ve observed, but when I’ve mastered knowledge I was mostly solo. Kind of another theme for my shadow, so lonely and angered at being kept hidden and isolated.

I look for ways to integrate that which I reject about who I am. Art, exercise, mindful living practices, creativity in story telling and watching, totems, rituals. These come dressed down like mentioned, tv shows, entertainment or holidays, like Halloween. Connect to deeper meaning in our live to find subversive expression of what we superficially reject or judge as bad and want to hide.
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It is refreshing to find a person that can self-efface in the open.

A simple way to look at the Ego and it's shadow is to consider it to be a child or your own creation. Your choices since birth and before have created it. Since you created it, you can change it. Choice is the most powerful tool in the universe. You've already recognized the consequence of poor choices and that you do not like them. You've realized that forming good habits are very beneficial.

now, dive into yourself and recreate it by reprogramming the 'self'. Then, it will reward you instead of punish you. It takes some discipline, but it isn't hard. It's just a choice, how hard can that be?

the book "The Greatest Secret in the world" by Og Mandino was the most revealing book ever written on this subject and then copied by masses of authors.

All that you have to do is read every day for about 20 minutes and within 30 days, you will see that 'you' are becoming a completely new person.

Because you are intelligent, you can learn the deeper message of this and write your own daily lessons and read them to yourself if you wish.

The Ego is nothing but a bio-computer that repeats what you have taught it to be. It will only cycle back to you what you have previously chosen. Your thoughts are not yours. Your thoughts are feedback loops which are programs to maintain the 'you' that you created. You created these programs by making simple choices.

example: When you were a little child, you were having an extremely fun time and your friends were eating fudge ice cream, and you DECIDED that fudge ice cream was your favorite due to all the circumstances that day (fun, friendship etc)...and...it tasted so good. Now, when you see it at the grocery store, your PROGRAM tells you to buy it. Not you, your program makes you salivate when you see it in the freezer at the store. <THIS IS THE GREATEST HIDDEN TRUTH OF ALL TIME.

You can reinvent your 'self' any time you wish ...any part of it or all of it through repetetive reprogramming.

Just keep in mind your EGO is not you. Your ego is a program. All of your favs, all of your reactive anger, all of your emotions that stir with thoughts. It is not you. YOU are a conscious awareness and a choice maker. You experience the result of your choices by reaping the benefit or pain of the EGO that you CREATED. So, if you don't want to be whipped like a step child the rest of your life, you have to dive in and follow all of the above. ...or ...you can continue to suffer from the past. It is your choice and your choice alone.

hope this helps.
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Glp = the larp website cruisewuflu
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truth (n.)
Old English triewð (West Saxon), treowð (Mercian) "faith, faithfulness, fidelity, loyalty; veracity, quality of being true; pledge, covenant," from Germanic abstract noun *treuwitho, from Proto-Germanic treuwaz "having or characterized by good faith," from PIE *drew-o-, a suffixed form of the root *deru- "be firm, solid, steadfast." With Germanic abstract noun suffix *-itho (see -th (2)).

Sense of "something that is true" is first recorded mid-14c. Meaning "accuracy, correctness" is from 1560s. English and most other IE languages do not have a primary verb for "speak the truth," as a contrast to lie (v.). Truth squad in U.S. political sense first attested in the 1952 U.S. presidential election campaign.
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Coz reasons, probably.
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actual discussions
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I'm interested in discussion that old Gateway Project report. In my opinion it reveals more about the psychology of its author than providing usable first level information about the topic of its title. It may be comparable to some older few GLP postings speaking about different topics than they appear to be on the literal level.
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I'm pretty much serious...even though you're all mostly lunatics, assholes and/or living buddhas or whatever

I'm looking for someone vastly more knowledgeable and perceptive than I am on the subject. if you are a true ascended mastermind of human thought I would unironically be willing to hire. You probably don't need the work if you exist, but our actual discussions might be mutually rewarding or at least entertaining.

There was once a guy here that almost fit the profile, maybe did, idk, but he was probably cannabilized by his shady employers. Well, talking to him was very interesting because he had a novel and fundemental understanding of the subject that wasn't rehearsed or memorized.

I'm up to my asshole in raw information about psychology, it's a lot more than a sneeze which I've accumulated over the years. But I want to have an honest conversation with someone who can show me a true rendition of my shadow selves or shadow heart...

hmm

I honestly want to talk to someone that can run circles around the amount that I know, if not in the quantitative sense, in the qualitative. Which is a big ask because none of the prolific roster of experts I've spoken to has offered very much in the way of novel observations. I've had extensive and for the most part uninspiring discussions with a lot of reputable degree holding experts incapable of telling me something original. they were all smart and great in their own ways but I'm seeking a different kind of conversation.

This is a weird place to ask, but it would be way weirder asking anywhere else, so my offer stands lmao
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I think you came to the wrong place, but you could find a lot of funny stuff.
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No it's Citizen Perth...sheesh...er wait...everything isn't making sense which means...the nobody is ascending to the higher seats in the realms of the golden ones. Riddle me this...dwi'n debycach i ydw i nawr, roeddwn i pan ddes i mewn gyntaf Now, if you can find meaning in Welsh gibberish...good luck to you as the whole construct seems ripped asunder and the narrative has turned to smut and sex and the licking of tongues.
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I'm glad your time on GLP has allowed you to grow and find yourself. lol...Whatever
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LOl...what my 20 plus years for playful passivity with a wee bit of pining for the fjords mixed with casustic soda and odditites of zakks mumblings...pool's quasi-craziness, Louis immortal battle with his missus...perhaps trying to figure out if KB is AI or not....Bwahahahaha....you are new. I guess you skipped a bunch of the intros.
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Dude I've been here since 2008 Or earlier, that's the earliest post I can find I lurked for years before that. I was here long before Eileen left. I believe I came here after 9-11. Soooooo. I'm not trying to be rude to you.

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well you don't sweep away your shadows...
they come whenever the sun does.
but, if you and your shadow are familiar with each other, you could even be friends.
My problem is I think I've confused my shadow because it never has discernable features these days.
probably a consequence of general complacency

thats why I am looking for someone whom likely isn't real but I may manage to persuade into becoming a real boy with the help of my fairy godmother or whatever
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


I have done this.

Carl Jung described the merging of the self and shadow self as a process which could take 6-7 years to complete and in his case he thought it was an uneasy alliance.

I disagree as he was a pussy who was submerged in a society who's values had superseded his own self and like most people he had submitted his true self to that of the others.

You don't know who you are. The part people call The Ego prevents this.

It stops you noticing things and behaviors you don't like. The Hypocrite doesn't know they are a hypocrite, but everyone else does. This is a fact for every person who has not integrated themselves to be whole.

The Process.

Self Observation. In particular pay attention to what you do when you are emotional. This is key. The Ego uses your emotions to do it's dirty work and conceal from you your shadow self.

The process causes you to disintegrate as you see your true self for the first time and you will not like it because the Ego has convinced you (along with society) those parts are bad.

In fact they are your true strengths, the ability to break rules and conventions at will which is what is required to defeat your Ego.

Integration.
Don't be afraid of who you are. Understand it. It is like the Tool song Schism, I know the pieces fit because I watched them fall away. But this time you are going to put them back together in the right order so it serves you.

A warning.


Balance is required. You fit the pieces so it balances you.

The warning is your dark side is seductive. It offers you everything through Power which is attractive. My dark-side almost seduced me.

It was the realization I was a Good person which allowed the last pieces to snap into place and bind that did the trick for me.

I am unbound. My mind can do anything and so can I, but that does not mean I will do anything.

It is a different world with that perspective. You stop being afraid of anything. That is the first time you are really free and free to use your Free-will.

We have free-will and it's limit is your Fears and your ability to exert your Will.

I will give more information as you need it. In doing so I am paying you back for wisdom received from viewing many of your threads. I consider this an equatable exchange.
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Okay, this is really interesting but I have to think about what I want to comment on.

Okay...how does a person know if they have integrated their shadow, rather than just given it a way better way to operate unconsciously? Is that something we just have to believe?

I dont fear that I am bad or evil because I am naturally a nice girl. There is something that worries me which isn't the immoral part of the shadow self, it's the invisible part. The part we don't see because it is too incongruous.

My concern...is really a form of apathy I think. Maybe it comes from too many peak experiences. Maybe it comes from, constantly seeking greater and greater instances of clarity. Such that, somehow, I dont really have a very deep attachment to a great deal of anything. I can't think of anything in my apartment I feel very attached to other than very vague stuff like YouTube or abstract thought.

I'm not depressed when my light dims inside but I do feel apathetic and detached generally.

I have to figure I am responsible for having no attachments anymore, but something feels like it's free, but its free to go nowhere
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You are a very intelligent person! Thank you for the thread!!5a
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well you don't sweep away your shadows...
they come whenever the sun does.
but, if you and your shadow are familiar with each other, you could even be friends.
My problem is I think I've confused my shadow because it never has discernable features these days.
probably a consequence of general complacency

thats why I am looking for someone whom likely isn't real but I may manage to persuade into becoming a real boy with the help of my fairy godmother or whatever
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


I have done this.

Carl Jung described the merging of the self and shadow self as a process which could take 6-7 years to complete and in his case he thought it was an uneasy alliance.

I disagree as he was a pussy who was submerged in a society who's values had superseded his own self and like most people he had submitted his true self to that of the others.

You don't know who you are. The part people call The Ego prevents this.

It stops you noticing things and behaviors you don't like. The Hypocrite doesn't know they are a hypocrite, but everyone else does. This is a fact for every person who has not integrated themselves to be whole.

The Process.

Self Observation. In particular pay attention to what you do when you are emotional. This is key. The Ego uses your emotions to do it's dirty work and conceal from you your shadow self.

The process causes you to disintegrate as you see your true self for the first time and you will not like it because the Ego has convinced you (along with society) those parts are bad.

In fact they are your true strengths, the ability to break rules and conventions at will which is what is required to defeat your Ego.

Integration.
Don't be afraid of who you are. Understand it. It is like the Tool song Schism, I know the pieces fit because I watched them fall away. But this time you are going to put them back together in the right order so it serves you.

A warning.


Balance is required. You fit the pieces so it balances you.

The warning is your dark side is seductive. It offers you everything through Power which is attractive. My dark-side almost seduced me.

It was the realization I was a Good person which allowed the last pieces to snap into place and bind that did the trick for me.

I am unbound. My mind can do anything and so can I, but that does not mean I will do anything.

It is a different world with that perspective. You stop being afraid of anything. That is the first time you are really free and free to use your Free-will.

We have free-will and it's limit is your Fears and your ability to exert your Will.

I will give more information as you need it. In doing so I am paying you back for wisdom received from viewing many of your threads. I consider this an equatable exchange.
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Okay, this is really interesting but I have to think about what I want to comment on.

Okay...how does a person know if they have integrated their shadow, rather than just given it a way better way to operate unconsciously? Is that something we just have to believe?

I dont fear that I am bad or evil because I am naturally a nice girl. There is something that worries me which isn't the immoral part of the shadow self, it's the invisible part. The part we don't see because it is too incongruous.

My concern...is really a form of apathy I think. Maybe it comes from too many peak experiences. Maybe it comes from, constantly seeking greater and greater instances of clarity. Such that, somehow, I dont really have a very deep attachment to a great deal of anything. I can't think of anything in my apartment I feel very attached to other than very vague stuff like YouTube or abstract thought.

I'm not depressed when my light dims inside but I do feel apathetic and detached generally.

I have to figure I am responsible for having no attachments anymore, but something feels like it's free, but its free to go nowhere
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


You are a very intelligent person! Thank you for the thread!!5a
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If a peak experience is of lifting veils, then personal retrenchment obliges, so as to allow all others to pierce in turn in the 'streamlined' wake of one's precedence.

When one of the flock rises, all shall rise in turn.
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A peak experience unlike the ones preceding it.
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Is that all?

You're easy...

devil6
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I guess that would be easy because I forget my peak experiences really quickly and they become somewhat state dependant...

I guess it would be better to say, a reason to reevaluate my core assumptions,
or...
that big giant moth in the cornor of my eye that I pretend not to see or something?
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Light of my Little Left Eye, what is your profession?

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you practice your slow hypnotic voice in the mirror? lol
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I don't have to practice. it's a modality I may use to change my frame of mind, but as long as it works on me it is functioning fine...optics aren't my problem lololololol ac
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she talks to herself when nobody's looking! lol
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Only when I know somebody is there...
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Good answer and why do I say this,ahh...

We know we are all connected,Fact!!!

We speak what must be spoken again knowing full that every Word spoken of a true pure in heart intent becomes a Life Giving Force of The Renewal that was Promised : )

Life is Truly A Team Event hf and no One individual has ownership over any other Living Being...

I send towards You LomLLE MY Currents of My Essence to show what my true intentions Are...

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Mengele's assistant

and you do not know who your programmers are you say?
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I have been very careful to remain cognitively flexible, because I don't have anyone to interview about my family history...like my dad, he died before I was old enough to realize how many questions I had about his side of the family, and him. There will always be holes in the information I have available to me, which I resent, but accept.
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I am an ascended master and I can tell you what you want to know if you tell me about yourself.

are you a homosexual?

who have been your sexual partners, and what did you know about them?

what is ethnicity of your 4 grandparents

who did your 4 grandparents have sex with

what were the occupations of your 4 grandparents, and 2 parents.

how many brothers and sisters do you have and are they homosexuals
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Actually, you are only an Ascended Piece of Shit!!!!! For asking such bullshit questions........stfu
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I would promote you talking to a psychologist better then a therapist or psychiatrist(I know you said therapist just stating for any who may read and have similar feelings.)

They are great for expansion of mind, a psychologist prime function is not to assess your health(necessarily if so it be voluntary I feel at least) but to help you explore your mind and your inner self I've had a great numerous conversations with psychologists on the theory of suicide and every single time they have conceded I'm not wrong but to the untrained mind thoughts I hold could be dangerous if relayed to others. So I generally keep my peace on certain subject matter as to advert catastrophe
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A psychologists point of perspective when helping individuals is from consensus reality.

It's like I need help pushing this box up a ramp but the psychologist insists that the place to be is on the ground, not the dangerous ramp, because that's where everyone else is. So he "helps" by convincing you that the ground is the place to be.

Helping the individual realize their individuality from the perspective of "normality" consensus reality isn't that helpful...
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sorry fren then your asking the psychologist the wrong questions, You don't go to a psychologist for help as I stated you go voluntarily to expand the mind, sure they have a base sense of reality to project to you that's what they've studied know and practice. To refute such an individual as beneath your ability to think is idiotic to be frank. just because someone pushes you towards a thought doesn't mean when you take the hand you go down, no much different you resist and pull them up to you.

Not sure if I'm Communicating this well enough but, I would never seek professional help because I wasn't strong enough to figure things out, god shows me all I need the diving energy of unimagined existence will always see you through the darkest days, thought to try and cast away an intelligent mind wrapped in a purposeful foil that may or may not have cut them off. hell they may agree with you but life's game, Thoth once said all is required to do dutiful labor, whether you feel they are of considerable relation to you or not could truthfully lie in your egotistical self.
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I guess i didn't communicate it well enough in the post you're responding to- I'm a psychologist.

Interesting that you think I'm looking down on psychologists from a lesser edicated point of view though!! Nice projection.
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Tell me Dr. Psychologist, exactly what English word is "edicated" or did you flunk spelling in school???? Moran!!! LOL.....lolsign
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I have a question about that though.
Why would I want to live in am eternity of peace and bliss where nothing ever happened that produced art?

I'd rather experience and infinitely interesting projection I had some hand in helping to create. It sounds...playful and existentially interesting as a thing to do for eternity, if I had to choose...

I mean, unless I'm getting something wrong
I don't think I want to be perfect holeness with nothing less than bliss forever. That sounds...it sounds exactly the same as eternal nothingness
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You have asked the correct question.

Few get that, they are still seeking comfort from what has happened to them.

Finite Perfection is finished. Infinite Perfection appears to be flawed, yet goes on forever an grows forever. You never stop adding to yourself and you never stop learning. The more you learn the more you can do and the more questions you can ask to find the next things you did not know about.

You can sit at the places of infinite Bliss if you want, but some of us are more about discovering knowledge and solving puzzles to obtain more growth.

We don't seek finite perfection, we seek infinite perfection and for that you need to start with a flawed vessel. We all start as being broken. If you erase your flaws rather than integrating them you will be finite.
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well you don't sweep away your shadows...
they come whenever the sun does.
but, if you and your shadow are familiar with each other, you could even be friends.
My problem is I think I've confused my shadow because it never has discernable features these days.
probably a consequence of general complacency

thats why I am looking for someone whom likely isn't real but I may manage to persuade into becoming a real boy with the help of my fairy godmother or whatever
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I have done this.

Carl Jung described the merging of the self and shadow self as a process which could take 6-7 years to complete and in his case he thought it was an uneasy alliance.

I disagree as he was a pussy who was submerged in a society who's values had superseded his own self and like most people he had submitted his true self to that of the others.

You don't know who you are. The part people call The Ego prevents this.

It stops you noticing things and behaviors you don't like. The Hypocrite doesn't know they are a hypocrite, but everyone else does. This is a fact for every person who has not integrated themselves to be whole.

The Process.

Self Observation. In particular pay attention to what you do when you are emotional. This is key. The Ego uses your emotions to do it's dirty work and conceal from you your shadow self.

The process causes you to disintegrate as you see your true self for the first time and you will not like it because the Ego has convinced you (along with society) those parts are bad.

In fact they are your true strengths, the ability to break rules and conventions at will which is what is required to defeat your Ego.

Integration.
Don't be afraid of who you are. Understand it. It is like the Tool song Schism, I know the pieces fit because I watched them fall away. But this time you are going to put them back together in the right order so it serves you.

A warning.


Balance is required. You fit the pieces so it balances you.

The warning is your dark side is seductive. It offers you everything through Power which is attractive. My dark-side almost seduced me.

It was the realization I was a Good person which allowed the last pieces to snap into place and bind that did the trick for me.

I am unbound. My mind can do anything and so can I, but that does not mean I will do anything.

It is a different world with that perspective. You stop being afraid of anything. That is the first time you are really free and free to use your Free-will.

We have free-will and it's limit is your Fears and your ability to exert your Will.

I will give more information as you need it. In doing so I am paying you back for wisdom received from viewing many of your threads. I consider this an equatable exchange.
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Okay, this is really interesting but I have to think about what I want to comment on.

Okay...how does a person know if they have integrated their shadow, rather than just given it a way better way to operate unconsciously? Is that something we just have to believe?

I dont fear that I am bad or evil because I am naturally a nice girl. There is something that worries me which isn't the immoral part of the shadow self, it's the invisible part. The part we don't see because it is too incongruous.

My concern...is really a form of apathy I think. Maybe it comes from too many peak experiences. Maybe it comes from, constantly seeking greater and greater instances of clarity. Such that, somehow, I dont really have a very deep attachment to a great deal of anything. I can't think of anything in my apartment I feel very attached to other than very vague stuff like YouTube or abstract thought.

I'm not depressed when my light dims inside but I do feel apathetic and detached generally.

I have to figure I am responsible for having no attachments anymore, but something feels like it's free, but its free to go nowhere
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Sorry I did not see this reply the other day.

I also have few attachments.

It seems we are some of the people who are departing the masses. By not having many attachments we make the process easier. It is hard to leave a lot of people behind and more so when you love many or all of them in some way, but that is what it takes.

When you have integrated it you will feel Powerful and Capable and you will fear Nothing. It Empowers you.

It takes the powerful dark side which can do anything without remorse and integrates that power with the control and empathy of the Good side.

You create a balanced Being. A balanced being can go anywhere in the Multi-verse. Good is restricted by it's rules and so is Evil by it's vibrations.

It is a interesting process and each person is different in the way they are patterned so what works for me might have to be altered for you but the broad outlines should work.

I am working on it in the hope everyone will be able to do what I can do. Then we can get out of here and have some Fun. The inmates here have lost their sense of humor.

Love, Fun and Humor are the three points you try and keep you mind centered between. A good state of mind for all situations. The crap can be hitting the wall and you are still of calm and centered mind not reacting blindly to the provocations before you.

It took me 6 years to integrate my shadow self with my other self. The Good guy was powerless and just folded to anyone to make them happy.

My wife said it was like I had lost my mojo. Before them your have this self image of yourself, but after entering in to constant self observation you saw that was a lie.

Then I would spend time rereading stuff I had written on sites. One day I read stuff from parts of me I did not recognize. A puzzle. Then I came across Carl Jung's writing about integrating the shadow self.

When I discovered my dark-side which can break rules and conventions without a care it was seductive. It nearly had me and my Ego loved the idea of being that powerful. But you nee to access your dark-side to defeat your Ego. The Ego prevents you from seeing it under normal circumstances.

If you have some direction you can integrate your darkside much quicker. But you have to destroy the previous version of yourself which is not true. It is why in the old days you were always told to Know yourself before you started down any other track.

Don't let your darkside own you, it is a tool when integrated, but if it becomes your master you will be like the Rulers of the world. Uncaring a-holes who will take advantage of anyone for personal gain.

That is not Balance and they will be finite if they don't attain balance in time.
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well you don't sweep away your shadows...
they come whenever the sun does.
but, if you and your shadow are familiar with each other, you could even be friends.
My problem is I think I've confused my shadow because it never has discernable features these days.
probably a consequence of general complacency

thats why I am looking for someone whom likely isn't real but I may manage to persuade into becoming a real boy with the help of my fairy godmother or whatever
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


I have done this.

Carl Jung described the merging of the self and shadow self as a process which could take 6-7 years to complete and in his case he thought it was an uneasy alliance.

I disagree as he was a pussy who was submerged in a society who's values had superseded his own self and like most people he had submitted his true self to that of the others.

You don't know who you are. The part people call The Ego prevents this.

It stops you noticing things and behaviors you don't like. The Hypocrite doesn't know they are a hypocrite, but everyone else does. This is a fact for every person who has not integrated themselves to be whole.

The Process.

Self Observation. In particular pay attention to what you do when you are emotional. This is key. The Ego uses your emotions to do it's dirty work and conceal from you your shadow self.

The process causes you to disintegrate as you see your true self for the first time and you will not like it because the Ego has convinced you (along with society) those parts are bad.

In fact they are your true strengths, the ability to break rules and conventions at will which is what is required to defeat your Ego.

Integration.
Don't be afraid of who you are. Understand it. It is like the Tool song Schism, I know the pieces fit because I watched them fall away. But this time you are going to put them back together in the right order so it serves you.

A warning.


Balance is required. You fit the pieces so it balances you.

The warning is your dark side is seductive. It offers you everything through Power which is attractive. My dark-side almost seduced me.

It was the realization I was a Good person which allowed the last pieces to snap into place and bind that did the trick for me.

I am unbound. My mind can do anything and so can I, but that does not mean I will do anything.

It is a different world with that perspective. You stop being afraid of anything. That is the first time you are really free and free to use your Free-will.

We have free-will and it's limit is your Fears and your ability to exert your Will.

I will give more information as you need it. In doing so I am paying you back for wisdom received from viewing many of your threads. I consider this an equatable exchange.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79633373


Okay, this is really interesting but I have to think about what I want to comment on.

Okay...how does a person know if they have integrated their shadow, rather than just given it a way better way to operate unconsciously? Is that something we just have to believe?

I dont fear that I am bad or evil because I am naturally a nice girl. There is something that worries me which isn't the immoral part of the shadow self, it's the invisible part. The part we don't see because it is too incongruous.

My concern...is really a form of apathy I think. Maybe it comes from too many peak experiences. Maybe it comes from, constantly seeking greater and greater instances of clarity. Such that, somehow, I dont really have a very deep attachment to a great deal of anything. I can't think of anything in my apartment I feel very attached to other than very vague stuff like YouTube or abstract thought.

I'm not depressed when my light dims inside but I do feel apathetic and detached generally.

I have to figure I am responsible for having no attachments anymore, but something feels like it's free, but its free to go nowhere
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


Sorry I did not see this reply the other day.

I also have few attachments.

It seems we are some of the people who are departing the masses. By not having many attachments we make the process easier. It is hard to leave a lot of people behind and more so when you love many or all of them in some way, but that is what it takes.

When you have integrated it you will feel Powerful and Capable and you will fear Nothing. It Empowers you.

It takes the powerful dark side which can do anything without remorse and integrates that power with the control and empathy of the Good side.

You create a balanced Being. A balanced being can go anywhere in the Multi-verse. Good is restricted by it's rules and so is Evil by it's vibrations.

It is a interesting process and each person is different in the way they are patterned so what works for me might have to be altered for you but the broad outlines should work.

I am working on it in the hope everyone will be able to do what I can do. Then we can get out of here and have some Fun. The inmates here have lost their sense of humor.

Love, Fun and Humor are the three points you try and keep you mind centered between. A good state of mind for all situations. The crap can be hitting the wall and you are still of calm and centered mind not reacting blindly to the provocations before you.

It took me 6 years to integrate my shadow self with my other self. The Good guy was powerless and just folded to anyone to make them happy.

My wife said it was like I had lost my mojo. Before them your have this self image of yourself, but after entering in to constant self observation you saw that was a lie.

Then I would spend time rereading stuff I had written on sites. One day I read stuff from parts of me I did not recognize. A puzzle. Then I came across Carl Jung's writing about integrating the shadow self.

When I discovered my dark-side which can break rules and conventions without a care it was seductive. It nearly had me and my Ego loved the idea of being that powerful. But you nee to access your dark-side to defeat your Ego. The Ego prevents you from seeing it under normal circumstances.

If you have some direction you can integrate your darkside much quicker. But you have to destroy the previous version of yourself which is not true. It is why in the old days you were always told to Know yourself before you started down any other track.

Don't let your darkside own you, it is a tool when integrated, but if it becomes your master you will be like the Rulers of the world. Uncaring a-holes who will take advantage of anyone for personal gain.

That is not Balance and they will be finite if they don't attain balance in time.
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another spot on post. Thanks. There are so few that wish to venture further than their previous habits.

I have to admit that your path is tempting. I'm still on the fence at this time on whether to return back to the point of all ...which is reality. ...or to basically do what you are doing.

My way of describing your path is to live "right minded" while maintaining a portion of your 'dark side' so it can be used.

You may think I am making this up, but the following is quite real.

Your path results in becoming a Demi-God.

Study the tree of sephirah, the oldest versions that you can find. You will see the snake is that which climbs the tree. The snake 'ascends'. 'It' goes with you, and you will use 'it' to climb. There are at least three positions above Kether which is the crown position. Those levels are beyond this dimension. Those levels are where the 'demigods' reside. As you study the Sephirah, you will see what you are now doing, whether you believe it or not. You are a Kabbalist.

These are levels wherein the individual can create at will. Everything, anything....with only a thought.

With those levels comes great responsibility. To become a "lord" means that you have a position of leadership. As a leader, you will have followers on lower levels that fall under your direction and teaching.

Very very few reach those levels. It requires conscious observation and unwavering discipline.

Evolution is not limited. At any time, you can choose to walk the path back to what is understood as "nothing" ...although in truth, it is everything.

Of course, a person can choose the dark path as well. The path of selfishness. These evolve into a dark demigod. (through extreme discipline). They are the balance that must exist in this illusion of TIME.

more power to you. It appears that you are an asset to TIME. or Chronos.





GLP