Does this site have any secret ascended mastermind geniuses of psychology? if so ....

here's the thing I think sometimes people get confused about.

there's a reason that "mind control" is tangled up in a lot of occult or psychedelic symbolism. And it isn't because all agents of consciousness alteration exist purely to be agents of interpersonal influence...I'm saying there is no lie in the hippie that claims LSD, shrooms, or DMT can quite literally "liberate" the mind.

the trance state is for meditation, for shamanic revels, however it is just as useful for hypnotic inductions. dissociation and illumination are equally feasible outcomes for any consciousness altering event. what is written upon the experience depends on not only what is perceived, but also by our relationship to what we are perceiving.

experiences are augmented during consciousness alterations, the flow state is mentioned a lot in pop psychology these days. In a sense flow state, the "inspiration" state, implies a synthesis between subject and object. time can pass very quickly or not at all, but the experience of it changes dramatically.

There are other consciousness alterations that may not be so obvious. A traumatic event, for example, produces an alteration in consciousness. hypervigilance or dissociation are actually the products of this state, but its overall impact is more effusive and more insidious.

there's another state which is the "blank" state, and I'm thinking maybe thats where we are going with the idea of the spiral. When confusion involves a total perterbation of all senses, internal and external, I would call this a particular state of its own, because it results in a paralysis of reason which practically begs to be taken by the hand and guided.

I don't think people naturally go into these blank states very often, and I don't think most people would consider this example as very familiar with their daily experience. I think what gives it some extra potency compared to other hypnotic inductions, though, is that it involves spatio/temporal disorientation narrative/sensorimotor disorientation, so awareness is occluded on all fronts. its dissociative, but it is also externally baffling to the senses

sensory deprivation produces a different but functionally similar effect to sensory bombardment. when people lose all locus of orientation physically and mentally, they lose track of their social script as their brain fumbles over trying to process the immediate sensory environment.
thats what produces a special vulnerability: we fall back on the input of others to inform us on the climate of social interactions. thus a person could easily be led by simple roleplaying to accept very jarring hypnotic scripts they might not otherwise internalize.

the spiral is dizziness, loss of orientation, loss of consciousness. a circle that ends in stars dancing elusively around the head. the spiral is also "as opposed" to the routine linearity of normal experience. it is the augmentation, the doorway of consciousness states. but we can spin and we can be spun. its an open field.

That reply makes you the smartest gal in the room.

well he is certainly the first to brag about his purported 178 IQ

Ugh, so stupid of me to use that metaphor lol
I regret it slightly

the thing is not the blank or empty state itself but what can be done with it that is important in mind control.....namely that it places one in highly suggestible state largely below conscious awareness and therefore not privy to 'defenses' of normal awareness. therefore the utilization of spirals etc. are preliminary to programming or if done prior recapitulating triggers to past episode.

Almost all psychologists, psychiatrists philosophers are completely unaware of the plasma-electric nature of reality. Schools of thought are compartmentalized by design. Anyone with a degree or virtually any scholastic education on the subject will just be regurgitating what they are fed. And almost all of them have not experienced the business end of psychology, i.e. they have not experienced psychology as a patient. Even the term "psychology" is a misnomer as the root of the term regards analyzation of the human psyche which goes far beyond our interactions with each other in the physical/emotional realm, however the main stream school of thought resides, quite shallowly I might add, strictly with emotion and subsequent behavior.

You need someone with insight into multidimensional philosophy that spans the spectrum and interlaces with the true nature of reality as it pertains to the manifestation of physical being based on the microsingularity that is the human and animal species.

At your service.

Blah Blah Blah.

I will uncover your shadow self.

You do it yourself in your mask to the world.

Pyschology lol Pyschiatry lol all bogus except for some functional behaviour and basic sheep drives.

Shadow self this and that, gnosis, zen blah.... been there years in Higher Yoga Tantra, years of all you talk about, worked the field.

All a rabbit hole.

Espcially any idea of gnosis or buddhism et al, of which I was very very deep into in the very tibetan buddhist sence and many long retreats alone, nepal, india etc.

Hey catch me a guide or ascended master, been there done it, all spirit guides etc bullshit they had me tricked for all while just demons.

Hey you want a conversation, to discuss and have intellectual pride battles and prove to your self that it exists and prop it up so it does not face death and realize or get scared of the fact that the Ego is finite and is stripped away when you die and all the language words certificates and standing in the world means nothing? Hey how zen and "enlightened" of me shall I put in a Koan? Shall I say dont try and taste the soup be the soup, or Words Cannot descibe the nature or reality be on a love vibration and ascend, how new age of me.

All total bullshit.

For those who have ears to hear and eyes to see, you have shown yourself totally in everywhere as either a player of the CIA or such like, or maybe an occultist guru wannabee fishing or maybe the real issue and victim without knowing. Your Mask and avatar says it all especially in the way and what you are talking about.

You see and I see lol all shadow self, work, pysch this and that is talking about like said above about 5% of the nature of you who the you really is, and its not all rainbows and ascended star seed gifted etc rubbish.

Its your subconscious. The only conversation that is meaningful to have if you really want to find out not the mask of what it will projcet, and the rabbit holes of other people beliefs, or its selective keeping you safe and the ego bit (non fraudian he was a coke addict pedo who slept with his 14 yr old cousin and all his work is based on hi analysis of her!) or the intellect and it trying to look at itself which it never can (welcome to zen rubbish, yes you get concentration and control but alos become a possesed or insane full of beliefs I am the throne of God (hear that one beforee?) I can be god I my mind the thing searching created all this lolo) but what conversations your S/C is having with itself, what its scripts are, and what conversations it is having with the outside world to either be a,b,c according to its programming.

Your Mask Your Avatar on this site clearly shows you as its a subconscious choice OR NOT (which would be very telling in some of what I satated you could really be)

MK ULTRA programming.

And interesting how you mention this thread.

The Butterfly Monarch Mind Control

The One Eye as we all know.

And other aspects of your avatar.

(with a lot of other things I found from reading what you wrote skimming that support it)

I am 100% certain walked all the paths done all you mention and know the thing I accuse of involvement in inside out of the following

You are Fishing eith Occult based or a 3 letter agency type, maybe a Pys student/professor for research and made a conscious choice of that avatar just like the black eyes in public and one eye everwhere they like to flaunt what they are doing in plain site as such.

You know the answer I allude to in my ramble is true but your intelectual pride, and fear of not being in control, the fragile Ego mask of NO I am in control not that, but know of the subject and its your own SB giving you the breadcrumbs to stop wasting your time and get down to business.

As you seem to be in the top 1 percentile of Intellectual abilities or closish, which is often an attribute of those whose familes are involved, you have some very very well hidden and represssed MK Ultra or Monarch type things done before 7 yrs old. Oh and I could uncover it in about 1 hour in a forensic way.

Though I will decline.

Find your Wernicke Commands, thats your shadow self, the shadow of being a sponge of learning with no ego id or filter to your environment parents and authority figures.

Find your True beliefs not the intellectual ones, the shadow always has a positive intention in the SC it is VERY VERY LITERAL AND MORAL but simplistic to worldview programming and how things are as taught before 7 yrs old. Even if the behaviour is apparently bad, ie PTSD is just a SC learnt belief to keep you safe, and the SC saying RELEASE HEAL THE TRAUMA EMTION but not, practical, like all eating disorders or self harm its being in control, though it kills you.

Thats your Shadow the conversations that went on in and around you before 7 especially by authority figures, or in time of fear and high emotion, nothing else. All the psychotherapy in the world (of which I am qualified like all things mentioned) will help truly, its not the Core issue.

You reek in one way or another to those who have a nose for these type of things of which I can assure you I do of MK Ultra as stated in one way or another, or hopefully just your SC Mind saying hey hears the issue you keep trying with conscious mind and intellect to "know" they are not the words you want to be using talking about etc.

Whats your SC mind saying to yourself?
What Was Said to It?
What Tapes does it keep replaying and why?
Why do you reek of MKULTRA type?
What Positive intentions has it learnt that keep sabotaging your life or causing the same difficulties, and they will repeat till you deal with the Gestalt?
Why do you need to spend $ to buy friends and conversations?
You are smart so wouldnt other smart people want to talk to you?
Do you believe all experts and smart people are therefore driven by the value of $?

Whats the value of truth to you?

its not in Pysch or any type any gnosis any zen like etc...

If you go swimming make sure you have a good lifegard, trust me you will not be able to see the truth from what the mask or positive intention will show you to keep it safe. You will drown in trauma, bullshit, and chase false shadows especially if someone has been consciously meddling with your SC before 7-8 yrs old.

I will check this thread in a week or so and if you so ask will leave some links of those who would be the lifegard, spend your money there.

May God Bless You with the truth.



Lenin did not say that he admired the Jesuits for one thing and knew it to be true, give me the man from birth to 7 years old and I will give you the Man.

TV Goverments Know it, its why drag queens and after school satanist clubs are in schools now and gender confusion is being programmed into us all MK ULTRA in plain view.

sorry fren then your asking the psychologist the wrong questions, You don't go to a psychologist for help as I stated you go voluntarily to expand the mind, sure they have a base sense of reality to project to you that's what they've studied know and practice. To refute such an individual as beneath your ability to think is idiotic to be frank. just because someone pushes you towards a thought doesn't mean when you take the hand you go down, no much different you resist and pull them up to you.

Not sure if I'm Communicating this well enough but, I would never seek professional help because I wasn't strong enough to figure things out, god shows me all I need the diving energy of unimagined existence will always see you through the darkest days, thought to try and cast away an intelligent mind wrapped in a purposeful foil that may or may not have cut them off. hell they may agree with you but life's game, Thoth once said all is required to do dutiful labor, whether you feel they are of considerable relation to you or not could truthfully lie in your egotistical self.

But the life that most people lead IS also impossible.
I have tried SO hard, even though I don't in particular want to have the same kind of life most people lead
it doesn't work for me at all
but the way I live is just weird too
there has to be some other way

(Edit below most holy face)
TV Goverments Know it, its why drag queens and after school satanist clubs are in schools now and gender confusion is being programmed into us all MK ULTRA in plain view.
(edit above most holy face)

Bruh!!! You were fortunate to escape. My mom was into all that stuff, I was raised in an Assembly of God Church. All her craziness never touched me. thank God! I never want to be a nut. :) Cheers brother!

It's hard to actually understate how effective it is in practice, I mean thats a perfect explanation, but when I revisit it in my memory, I realize that this was a psychological operation which was ingeniously manipulating known information of the academic field. You could infer all the principles through general knowledge of the whole, but to put them together that way, is quite unmistakably calculating. And I really feel driven to unpack it bit by bit, and am driven crazy by the fact that many of my memories of that time are so disjointed.

I have managed to go very long periods of time without being affected by my experiences too aversely, but I have realized just recently that I didn't actual develop an immunity to being influenced. In the past few months I've had to realize that it can all very easily be called up, the memetic trigger sliding you mentioned, and all that state-dependant memory returns, and I realize I am in a familiar...state of awareness

I'm conflicted because ever since I was very young, I read about psychology, and I read about philosophy, and I read about metaphysics, and all of these things are intrinsic to who I am. And at the same time, I'm in a precarious position between feeling engaged in life but somewhat fragmented, or feeling anesthetized an dissatisfied but whole. I could probably go on, but I won't.

Because I have dealt with a very very strange life for a long time, I don't feel I am risking my sanity or my life, but I don't know if I will be able to ever have what I actually want if I continue to chase my passion the way I've been doing it.

But the life that most people lead IS also impossible.
I have tried SO hard, even though I don't in particular want to have the same kind of life most people lead
it doesn't work for me at all
but the way I live is just weird too
there has to be some other way

I'm an ass-end-ed mas-tard C.A.~ Wanna know something C.A.? The lady I know is from La Mancha, Spain. The irony of your post. YOu do know of La Mancha and Don Quixote fighting windmills aka HIS SHADOW~

Anyways...my mind is mostly empty of thoughts for 15 years or so roughly...I've kind of transcended thoughts..

I don't actually need chemical catalysts anymore to get these patterns, but they only occur in certain altered states upon occasions of very strong consciousness activation, so there is some kind of change that must be either electromagnetic or...? some other change in a field.

I'm an ass-end-ed mas-tard C.A.~ Wanna know something C.A.? The lady I know is from La Mancha, Spain. The irony of your post. YOu do know of La Mancha and Don Quixote fighting windmills aka HIS SHADOW~

Anyways...my mind is mostly empty of thoughts for 15 years or so roughly...I've kind of transcended thoughts..

You do not need any chemical assistance to reach separation.
I read your post about MKultra, do you even realize that dreaming is actually diagnosed as having an episode?
You seem rather egoic as are most in their approach to finding THE answers. This is quite normal considering the over powerment of the qlipoth (Kelipot).

You are scarred from everyone you have ever met, especially the ones that have hurt you in some way. The answers you seek are not going to come from a single sentence that's been written by our fellow brethren nor I but from a huge amount of work performed by you only.

I have been to the other side and seen myself, It took many years of clean living and training, not to mention the avoidance of people because their "intent" plays a huge roll in your success and it's usually negative.

I am old now, I have seen what I needed to see through the many travels that I have performed and I am content with my plan of escape. But for you, My only advice atm, would be to go back through your life and forgive everyone you have ever met, it's a weight that needs to be extinguished.

have you ever read any of my other threads out of curiosity?

Just as I thought and expected. Thanks for confirming C.A.