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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80120241 Thailand 03/08/2021 07:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A real news source would be nice. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79582374 Anyways why do doctors wear them? You would be fine with a doctor performing surgery on you without one them I take it? Drs don't wear them as a rule, surgeons do. During surgery bacterial infection is a huge risk and so surgeons and nurses all wear masks to stop bacteria from them entering an open wound. Surgical masks are excellent at stopping bacteria because compared to a virus bacteria are massive. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56026143 United States 03/08/2021 07:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A real news source would be nice. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79582374 Anyways why do doctors wear them? You would be fine with a doctor performing surgery on you without one them I take it? Great point but you are wasting your cyber ink here making it. To so many people "the mask" is a proclamation if you are on the left or right just like a sign in your yard during the election cycle. The Surgery Mask does not protect the Nurse or Doctor from whats inside your open chest during surgery, its meant to protect the patient from contracting a virus or bacteria the Nurse or Doctor exhales while hovering over your gaping hole. Same thing in public. Pretty simple idea that works....not 100% though but better than 0%. |
Justme C'est Moi
(OP) User ID: 80059579 United States 03/08/2021 08:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seems I have attracted a lot of mask lovers here. Coronavirus is spread very easily by air. Ebola, they told us was only transmitted by contact. If you followed the Ebola story a few years ago, the medical staff wore various combinations of surgical masks, Taped off N-95 masks, goggles, gowns, and latex gloves. The disease still claimed a horrific percentage of the front line workers. In the real world, with a real deadly disease. A disease that was around 35% fatal within days, the masks did NOTHING. Against a virus that was supposed to be FAR EASIER TO CONTROL!. A disease that they say could be controlled simply by practicing good hygiene. Everything is not black and white however. So when I say the masks did nothing, I mean they were still running out of doctors and nurses that were still alive. Maybe they lived another couple days because of the masks, but the protection from the masks they were using was wholly insufficient. Being an engineer (and one of the best there is), I sent an email to the CDC to tell them that the masks were not adequate protection for a virus and explained the reasoning, and that a 3M half mask appliance with valves and fitted with P-100s would be the minimum protection I would recommend, and that really, the 3M full face mask respirator would be better because the goggles they were using still had small air vents around the perimeter, to prevent fogging. (of course there are other makers of similar respirators like Norton, MSA etc., but 3M is kind of the gold standard for me). And also informed them that a PAPR device is really what is needed, because it keeps the wearer cooler and less fatigued, as the power for filtration is provided by the PAPR unit (powered air-purifying respirator), and any facemask leaks will leak outward, because of the positive mask pressure. [link to www.industrialsafetyproducts.com (secure)] Welders wear PAPRs to protect against welding fumes. I can't fathom the logic that says give an infection disease doctor a 30 cent paper mask to wear for protection, and a $1000 PAPR to a welder. They all need the right protection. Just in dollar terms, what does it cost to train a doctor to the level that these front line doctors need to be useful? A million dollars or more easily! And nobody wants to spend a thousand dollars to keep them alive? Then they fall ill and rack up a hundred thousand dollar medical bill on top of that? They wrote me a nice note back thanking me, and pretty soon after that they were wearing better gear. And then some Congolese gentleman, Dr. Richard Kojan [link to www.elmaphilanthropies.org (secure)] (yes an actual black inventor that actually made a difference), came up with the Alima isolation/treatment cube design, which rendered most masking unnecessary or supplemental and really turned the tide in fighting the Ebola epidemic. [link to alima.ngo (secure)] As I said before, Corona virii spread though the air very efficiently, and primitive masking simply is not statistically effective. It might stop a large glob of spittle from flying through the air, but the main spread is via particles of mucus with the virus that are too small to be effectively filtered with a simple surgical mask or any mask short of P-100s fitted to a silicone rubber facemask with a positive cheek and nose seal. Tests show around 8% of the inhaled air completely bypasses an N-95 disposable mask along the poor fitment to the face. So no matter what the mask rating is, with that kind of leakage, the mask is useless against a virus. And those that laugh at OAN as a news source. If you haven't yet realized that we have lost the free press in this country, then you are beyond all redemption. The press universally reads whatever "news" the new communist government gives them to read. OAN and NTD news seem to be the only news agencies that are bucking this trend. Last Edited by JustmeTX on 03/08/2021 08:41 AM Justme |
PresidentElect BlueStateRebel
User ID: 73724632 United States 03/08/2021 08:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, I would like to be compensated, because for the last 14 months I have told people that wearing a simple mask would do nothing to protect them, and had to endure their accusations, hostility, etc. Quoting: Justme C'est Moi Why, you would think I was a baby murdering, grandma raping, racist, Hitler or something, just for giving them some scientific advice. You mean like Andrew Cuomo? |
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User ID: 19481222 United States 03/08/2021 08:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dr. Fauci, But 4 even 5 are better oh and don’t forget the neck pantyhose to stop side blow. Side blow Lol. I like the commercial that shows the guy at work all masked up opens the door pulls mask away and takes a deep breath proclaiming "ah,I can breath"! Priceless. |
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Use your brian... moran!
User ID: 80064719 United States 03/08/2021 08:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fauci should tell everyone the only way to prevent covid at this point is to stick a dildo in their mouth, plug their nose, and wear a blindfold. Quoting: My Foolish Daydream I think that was a movie in the 80's... Fuck what the flag by my name says, I'm from Texas! Wake up & smell reality. I have to much blood in my caffeine stream! "Oh look--another basement dwelling loser who ain't had pussy since pussy had him." Beans.N.Rice “The thing about smart mother fuckers is that sometimes, they sound like crazy mother fuckers to stupid mother fuckers...” Robert Kirkman |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79840428 United States 03/08/2021 08:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I work in auto parts sales. Corporate is following the recommendations of the CDC. The CDC may say that masks are ineffective but recommended. The recommended part is the only thing that corporate bigwigs hear. I'm sure the case is similar with many corporations. Fuck the science, let's just make decisions based on baseless/contradictory recommendations |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54936975 Canada 03/08/2021 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There only admitting it now that vaccines are available, so that the people who refuse it can't cop out by saying I'll just wear my mask. They really want to discriminate those who don't wanna take it and pressure them into taking it. The real test will be when the vaccinated are locked down again and told that even though they are vaccinated, that they aren't allowed out until the anti vax crowd is. Which will enrage them to the point they will be pleading for anti vaxxers to be detained into camps until they take the shot. |
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Justme C'est Moi
(OP) User ID: 80059579 United States 03/08/2021 08:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There only admitting it now that vaccines are available, so that the people who refuse it can't cop out by saying I'll just wear my mask. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54936975 They really want to discriminate those who don't wanna take it and pressure them into taking it. The real test will be when the vaccinated are locked down again and told that even though they are vaccinated, that they aren't allowed out until the anti vax crowd is. Which will enrage them to the point they will be pleading for anti vaxxers to be detained into camps until they take the shot. You provide an excellent read on the situation sir. Last Edited by JustmeTX on 03/08/2021 08:32 AM Justme |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77412172 United States 03/08/2021 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The study literally says the exact OPPOSITE of what this headline is.. it's like these people just made up whatever lie they wanted to and wrote it above the study for clickbait, the study says that masks DO slow the Transmission of covid-19... not by preventing people from getting it but from helping prevent people with it from SPREADING it.. the masks NEVER were a deterrent from you getting infected by others it's a deterrent from you SPREADING it.. the studies have ALWAYS said this and you still ALWAYS get it wrong |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78889174 United States 03/08/2021 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It limits viral load. Both the spreading and the absorption. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80118498 The reason why Chinese doctors were dropping like flies is because of high viral load, due to poor air circulation and over exposure. Have a anti-masker friend that is in the medical field. When I explained that logic to him, that it reduces the number of pesky buggers that get into your body, giving your immune system a fighting chance, and the way the virus damages the body, he purged all anti mask rhetoric from his social media. BULLSHIT. There are many scientific ( not political science ) papers showing how masks can grow and cause infections. So stop your lies. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79032280 United States 03/08/2021 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone with even a little intelligence knew this from the outset. Quoting: Fugazi World The programmed dummies will still insist they make a huge difference. Dummies. Right. I have neighbor who I told practically no one was wearing masks in stores in the part of SC I was visiting and how normal and freeing it was to experience that. She said well, I think it does catch large droplets from a sneeze. I just said nothing at first. Of course a barrier, as in a sneeze into your hand or sleeve would also act as a barrier, but if you are sneezing up a storm maybe you should minimize your venturing out into public (although, as I understand it, a sneeze isn't even one of the main signs). I did say asymptomatic doesn't speed it. Sadly 75% of my friends (mostly now former friends) are all for the vaxx and adamant about masks. I never knew how little these people used their brains. Lots of people are really gullible. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80121274 United States 03/08/2021 08:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | told you all from day dang one this. Hello nurse here. BTW? ANYONE who told you otherwise and KNEW better?? Yeah they are part of the problem they are THINE ENEMY. Forgive the ninnies that are among your family friends and neighbors at some point they will be brainy enough not to believe the lies the Most Evil ones tell us |
Monger of Many Things
User ID: 79881908 Colombia 03/08/2021 08:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The people who got tickets for not wearing their masks should sue the CDC and the police. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80104741 How about the families of the half million people that died because of their crap advice? If they wore a 3M silicone mask with P-100s or if they took Ivermectin, they would most likely still be alive. If they took ivermectin they are still alive. If I had a dollar for every time I got suspicious... I'd wonder who was paying me, and why? |
Justme C'est Moi
(OP) User ID: 80059579 United States 03/08/2021 08:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The study literally says the exact OPPOSITE of what this headline is.. it's like these people just made up whatever lie they wanted to and wrote it above the study for clickbait, the study says that masks DO slow the Transmission of covid-19... not by preventing people from getting it but from helping prevent people with it from SPREADING it.. the masks NEVER were a deterrent from you getting infected by others it's a deterrent from you SPREADING it.. the studies have ALWAYS said this and you still ALWAYS get it wrong Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77412172 Again, look to the Ebola real world experience of just a few years ago. They wore masks like crazy over there, and they were dropping like flies. The disease had a 35% kill rate, so it was real damn easy to see the results. I am not going to wear a mask to protect YOU. If you want to protect yourself, buy a proper respirator as I described above, or take Ivermectin routinely, or risk your life with one of the new vaccines. I don't care which, but I have no obligation to wear a mask to allay your fears. Which brings up the legal remit of government or lack thereof. Natural rights, (the right to move about freely, to defend yourself, to eat and drink, to look for food and water, to breathe, to sweat, to urinate, to defecate, are the very basis of law. Inalienable rights. Conferred by god or whatever force hatched your dumb ass into existence. Government has no authority to infringe upon natural rights. I have the effing right to breathe! Last Edited by JustmeTX on 03/08/2021 08:52 AM Justme |
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User ID: 72531541 United States 03/08/2021 08:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if you need to listen to the scientific 'experts' to tell what to do and how to act. then well i feel sorry for you. this is what happens when science becomes political and a priesthood. you are doomed if you don't do the homework and draw your own conclusions. ask your inner self it knows. Grove And this is why we can't have nice things. |
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User ID: 69097931 Canada 03/08/2021 08:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It limits viral load. Both the spreading and the absorption. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80118498 The reason why Chinese doctors were dropping like flies is because of high viral load, due to poor air circulation and over exposure. Have a anti-masker friend that is in the medical field. When I explained that logic to him, that it reduces the number of pesky buggers that get into your body, giving your immune system a fighting chance, and the way the virus damages the body, he purged all anti mask rhetoric from his social media. Okay, except... Everything you said is complete fucking horseshit. Masks do NOTHING to slow the spread of a virus, in fact they make people more likely to get sick - for reasons a 5 year old child would find self evident. Show any proof, of any kind, that the spread of any virus has ever been impacted by use of masks. It should be quite easy, considering you have extreme examples of mandatory/compliance or not. A doctor or researcher would have been laughed out of tenure for suggesting that masks woulf change the spread of a virus before last year. It is a joke, a hoax, and you can take your 'viral load' and shove it up your ass. Five different studies with a combined budget of $100 Million in 2018-2019 across the planet all proved that masks do NOTHING. If you are wearing a mask that can stop a virus, you are able to wear that mask for around 10 minutes before you start getting dizzy from hypoxia. Fuck off with this nonsense that cloth masks are anything but a weapon of control. Last Edited by kaibosh on 03/08/2021 08:47 AM |
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*MOLON LABE* User ID: 79174819 United States 03/08/2021 08:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fauci should tell everyone the only way to prevent covid at this point is to stick a dildo in their mouth, plug their nose, and wear a blindfold. Quoting: My Foolish Daydream I like your style chica. I mean if we're going to witness the downfall and reset of civilization we might as well have a laugh. What better way than seeing a bunch of stooges walking around with a big latex dick in their mouths that jiggles around when they walk. How funny, Last Edited by Just Passing Through..... on 03/08/2021 08:48 AM "She isn't real.....I can't make her real" "Somewhere between the sacred silence and sleep...Disorder, Disorder, Disorder" "The World is a business Mr Beale..." "You depend on our protection yet you feed us lies from the tablecloth......" ENFJ |
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