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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80077328 Canada 03/10/2021 05:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Food for thought, many have claimed during their near death experience that they have been into the depths of space. On each account, they have always reported the earth being round. Quoting: Little Lost Nancy bush Evan's of the book dancing past the dark - distressing near death experiences where she reports she had an NDE and drifted into deep space. She makes a point of stating that yes, the earth is round. She had quite an interesting experience where she didnt meet god but something else. She claims to have encountered yin yang symbols who proceeded to tell her that her whole life was a lie. Everything she experienced was a.creation of her mind - that was the great secret. Then she snapped back into her body. Makes.tou wonder where the tin yang symbol came from and what it truly represents? Anyways, have a dig your self, theres more than a few claims out there. Not trying to rubbish flat earthers, just point out another source of potential confirmation. Well that means they are lying. Easy. Next shill. |
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Little Lost
(OP) User ID: 45289262 United Kingdom 03/10/2021 05:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Food for thought, many have claimed during their near death experience that they have been into the depths of space. On each account, they have always reported the earth being round. Quoting: Little Lost Nancy bush Evan's of the book dancing past the dark - distressing near death experiences where she reports she had an NDE and drifted into deep space. She makes a point of stating that yes, the earth is round. She had quite an interesting experience where she didnt meet god but something else. She claims to have encountered yin yang symbols who proceeded to tell her that her whole life was a lie. Everything she experienced was a.creation of her mind - that was the great secret. Then she snapped back into her body. Makes.tou wonder where the tin yang symbol came from and what it truly represents? Anyways, have a dig your self, theres more than a few claims out there. Not trying to rubbish flat earthers, just point out another source of potential confirmation. Well that means they are lying. Easy. Next shill. Not trying to shill, im merely pointing to another source of confirmation. Given a lot of these account are of heavenly nature, they have no reason to push what would be a government driven conspiracy if it were true. Granted, I cant confirm these reports my self, drifting off into deep space kinda terrifies me a little when thinking about it. Many report that they are escorted to heaven through the stars, travelling at break neck speeds. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4174966 United States 03/10/2021 05:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And what do you mean people ALWAYS see a round earth in NDEs? This is the first and only NDE I’ve heard about that mentions the shape of the earth at all. So .... fail. |
Little Lost
(OP) User ID: 45289262 United Kingdom 03/10/2021 05:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This encounter with yin yang proves it was a hallucination and not a real experience, since God does not use pagan symbols. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4174966 And what do you mean people ALWAYS see a round earth in NDEs? This is the first and only NDE I’ve heard about that mentions the shape of the earth at all. So .... fail. Ok, what about mary k baxter as another one? How many testimonies have you watched? Have you even looked at the NDERF database on line and.read those accounts? Heres another one from a very quick search. "He took my hand and the next thing I knew we were in outer space staring at the earth as it revolved. I remember seeing a cord coming from my body and reaching all the way to the earth." [link to www.nderf.org (secure)] Who said it was god that presented the symbols to her? Do you not believe there are entities out there that want to deceive humanity and maybe that's what she encountered? I'll bat you back that fail comment. Let's see how much you've researched on this. Last Edited by Little Lost on 03/10/2021 06:01 AM |
Catnip
User ID: 79728682 United States 03/10/2021 06:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Food for thought, many have claimed during their near death experience that they have been into the depths of space. On each account, they have always reported the earth being round. Quoting: Little Lost Nancy bush Evan's of the book dancing past the dark - distressing near death experiences where she reports she had an NDE and drifted into deep space. She makes a point of stating that yes, the earth is round. She had quite an interesting experience where she didnt meet god but something else. She claims to have encountered yin yang symbols who proceeded to tell her that her whole life was a lie. Everything she experienced was a.creation of her mind - that was the great secret. Then she snapped back into her body. Makes.tou wonder where the tin yang symbol came from and what it truly represents? Anyways, have a dig your self, theres more than a few claims out there. Not trying to rubbish flat earthers, just point out another source of potential confirmation. Well that means they are lying. Easy. Next shill. When you have an NDE, your experience will dictate what to believe. "When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change" |
Catnip
User ID: 79728682 United States 03/10/2021 06:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This encounter with yin yang proves it was a hallucination and not a real experience, since God does not use pagan symbols. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4174966 And what do you mean people ALWAYS see a round earth in NDEs? This is the first and only NDE I’ve heard about that mentions the shape of the earth at all. So .... fail. Each person will have a specific NDE and each experience is valid. Do not invalidate another's experience because your experience may be even more incredible and hard for others to believe if/when it should happen. "When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change" |
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Catnip
User ID: 79728682 United States 03/10/2021 06:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This encounter with yin yang proves it was a hallucination and not a real experience, since God does not use pagan symbols. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4174966 And what do you mean people ALWAYS see a round earth in NDEs? This is the first and only NDE I’ve heard about that mentions the shape of the earth at all. So .... fail. Who are you to judge another's experience? On what basis are you experienced in God's use of symbols? "When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78350745 Australia 03/10/2021 07:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | While drifting through ORION, I noticed two blazing celestial bodies racing parallel to its center, looking as Twin Arrows exiting from an Archers Bow and headed straight for the "Blue Marble" of home. From here.. [link to www.near-death.com (secure)] Less than 0.5%. Marbles are spheres last I looked. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77922972 United States 03/10/2021 07:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People in near-death experiences will see what they believe or think they know...it doesn’t necessarily have a direct correlation with reality. The Earth is flat and stationary. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77712036 Why then is the horizon visible and why does it vary with height of eye observations? The horizon rises to the level of the eye of the observer. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77023529 United States 03/10/2021 07:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People in near-death experiences will see what they believe or think they know...it doesn’t necessarily have a direct correlation with reality. The Earth is flat and stationary. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77712036 Not true. Many people who didn't believe in Christ met Jesus during their NDE. Conversions to Christianity after an NDE are common. Just as an example. |
komeet holmes
User ID: 80025257 Belgium 03/10/2021 07:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This encounter with yin yang proves it was a hallucination and not a real experience, since God does not use pagan symbols. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4174966 Really? You don’t celebrate your birthday then because it’s also pagan. When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it. Paulo Coelho |
Little Lost
(OP) User ID: 45289262 United Kingdom 03/10/2021 07:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People in near-death experiences will see what they believe or think they know...it doesn’t necessarily have a direct correlation with reality. The Earth is flat and stationary. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77712036 I wouldn't agree with that. Atheists have experienced heaven and hell even though they didnt believe they existed. Surely by that logic, if you believed there was nothing there, then surely you would have no experience at all because you wouldn't believe there is anything to experience if it's all in the mind to begin with? Some.people report being reincarnated. If you believe Howard storm, there are a multitude of possibilities that could occur at death. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78350745 Australia 03/10/2021 08:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People in near-death experiences will see what they believe or think they know...it doesn’t necessarily have a direct correlation with reality. The Earth is flat and stationary. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77712036 Why then is the horizon visible and why does it vary with height of eye observations? The horizon rises to the level of the eye of the observer. You are suggesting the Earth is a concave plane..absurd. In the days of yore, gunshot was made in shot towers by dropping molten lead down the tower it would naturally form a sphere, before dropping into a barrel of water. How is the Earth any different? |
Little Lost
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77922972 United States 03/10/2021 08:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People in near-death experiences will see what they believe or think they know...it doesn’t necessarily have a direct correlation with reality. The Earth is flat and stationary. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77712036 Why then is the horizon visible and why does it vary with height of eye observations? The horizon rises to the level of the eye of the observer. You are suggesting the Earth is a concave plane..absurd. In the days of yore, gunshot was made in shot towers by dropping molten lead down the tower it would naturally form a sphere, before dropping into a barrel of water. How is the Earth any different? No, I am suggesting that the Earth is flat. Small quantities of lead that coagulate due to surface tension do not necessarily imply anything for the shape of our large Earth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77922972 United States 03/10/2021 08:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People in near-death experiences will see what they believe or think they know...it doesn’t necessarily have a direct correlation with reality. The Earth is flat and stationary. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77712036 I wouldn't agree with that. Atheists have experienced heaven and hell even though they didnt believe they existed. Surely by that logic, if you believed there was nothing there, then surely you would have no experience at all because you wouldn't believe there is anything to experience if it's all in the mind to begin with? Some.people report being reincarnated. If you believe Howard storm, there are a multitude of possibilities that could occur at death. While that may be true, the fact is that people experience what they know or have heard about to some degree...if no one knows the earth is flat, they will not experience it that way. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78727746 United States 03/10/2021 08:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This encounter with yin yang proves it was a hallucination and not a real experience, since God does not use pagan symbols. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4174966 And what do you mean people ALWAYS see a round earth in NDEs? This is the first and only NDE I’ve heard about that mentions the shape of the earth at all. So .... fail. You poor ignorant fool. Yin Yang is a holy symbol. It symbolizes God's creation and the movement of his power. Fools like you would of called Jesus Christ a pagan and burned him at the stake in his day. (sound familiar?) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80115966 France 03/10/2021 08:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look at videos of water drops in 0 gravity ... they tend to merge into a nice round blob... same with earth and all celestial objects, the sphere is the most balanced / least resistance form to take in 0 gravity... why would planets not form into a similar blob like water? As above so below, as below so above. The sun and atoms are round... no debate here. A more intriguing question is if our history was falsified... so much of what we learn in school about our history is fake. |
Little Lost
(OP) User ID: 45289262 United Kingdom 03/10/2021 08:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People in near-death experiences will see what they believe or think they know...it doesn’t necessarily have a direct correlation with reality. The Earth is flat and stationary. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77712036 I wouldn't agree with that. Atheists have experienced heaven and hell even though they didnt believe they existed. Surely by that logic, if you believed there was nothing there, then surely you would have no experience at all because you wouldn't believe there is anything to experience if it's all in the mind to begin with? Some.people report being reincarnated. If you believe Howard storm, there are a multitude of possibilities that could occur at death. While that may be true, the fact is that people experience what they know or have heard about to some degree...if no one knows the earth is flat, they will not experience it that way. Is this belief along the lines of your mind creates reality therefore what you believe dictates what you see? Curious as to the response. I would argue that not to be true though. Theres one account I came across recently who had a vision.of what the afterlife would be like. They were religious and had heard of the bright white light of love that so many refer too. Only she didnt encounter that, she encountered a teacher that proceeded to reveal things about her. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79118742 United States 03/10/2021 09:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Food for thought, many have claimed during their near death experience that they have been into the depths of space. On each account, they have always reported the earth being round. Quoting: Little Lost Nancy bush Evan's of the book dancing past the dark - distressing near death experiences where she reports she had an NDE and drifted into deep space. She makes a point of stating that yes, the earth is round. She had quite an interesting experience where she didnt meet god but something else. She claims to have encountered yin yang symbols who proceeded to tell her that her whole life was a lie. Everything she experienced was a.creation of her mind - that was the great secret. Then she snapped back into her body. Makes.tou wonder where the tin yang symbol came from and what it truly represents? Anyways, have a dig your self, theres more than a few claims out there. Not trying to rubbish flat earthers, just point out another source of potential confirmation. ...... "Then it comes to be, That the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, Was just a freight train coming your way. It's coming your way. It's coming your way. Yeah Here it comes!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77706217 United States 03/10/2021 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People in near-death experiences will see what they believe or think they know...it doesn’t necessarily have a direct correlation with reality. The Earth is flat and stationary. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77712036 I wouldn't agree with that. Atheists have experienced heaven and hell even though they didnt believe they existed. Surely by that logic, if you believed there was nothing there, then surely you would have no experience at all because you wouldn't believe there is anything to experience if it's all in the mind to begin with? Some.people report being reincarnated. If you believe Howard storm, there are a multitude of possibilities that could occur at death. While that may be true, the fact is that people experience what they know or have heard about to some degree...if no one knows the earth is flat, they will not experience it that way. Is this belief along the lines of your mind creates reality therefore what you believe dictates what you see? Curious as to the response. I would argue that not to be true though. Theres one account I came across recently who had a vision.of what the afterlife would be like. They were religious and had heard of the bright white light of love that so many refer too. Only she didnt encounter that, she encountered a teacher that proceeded to reveal things about her. Yes, more or less. It doesn’t mean that what you believe will come true in your visions, only that the visions are confined to the things that you know about. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80127809 Australia 03/10/2021 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This encounter with yin yang proves it was a hallucination and not a real experience, since God does not use pagan symbols. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4174966 And what do you mean people ALWAYS see a round earth in NDEs? This is the first and only NDE I’ve heard about that mentions the shape of the earth at all. So .... fail. I have literally read hundreds of NDE experiences and would have to somewhat agree with you, to a point. I only recall reading a dozen or so experiences where the person recalled seeing the Earth from outer space. They didn't specifically say, hey the Earth was a globe and not flat. They mostly described perceeving the Earth as being a living being and having an aura around it. However, I think it is more than reasonable to believe that they perceived Earth to be a globe, otherwise, I'm certain if they saw that the Earth was flat then they most certainly would have said so. After all, many of the NDEs mention seeing and experiencing things that contradicted what they perceived as reality. Not once did I read any that mentioned the Earth as being flat. |