respectful thread. question- am i white? | |
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IfYouInsist
User ID: 41011373 United States 03/11/2021 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, your mixed status may cause you to attempt to transcend ethnic identity, in which case I say be what you feel comfortable being. If you're a proud member of a group who has nicknames for outsiders and uses them, then I don't see the point in joining you for protesting them when they are used against you. And that's the case even if it comes down to killing. Quoting: IfYouInsist i am a member of the human race like all of us, the racial identity to me, does not matter unless its for purposes of cultural enrichment, so to bring us closer together not create partitions. ok yes, lets all transcend racial identity. good way of putting it. I'm an individual. Human raceism is still racism, given that it relies on the same mechanisms of enforcement and plays the same favorites. Sorry. why sorry? Sorry because some people tried using racial slurs to motivate me, then protested that they weren't racist. Sorry because that means my dignity is more important to me than working together with those who don't have any respect for it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76173659 Germany 03/11/2021 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79448203 I didn't say they aren't accurate I said it's more than skin color. White means European descent white skin non J'ish. Black means African descent black skin not a light skinned mix breed. |
Plato II
(OP) User ID: 77134059 United States 03/11/2021 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you know how they say the brain is layered, with the archaic parts sandwitched beneath the "newer" and more complex adaptations? and how that happened over time? then think about human gestation how we start as an egg and then look like a squirmy fish creature, then form to be a lil human? they say both those things are like our bodies "historical record" that proves our evolution over time. ok well i cant prove evolution but let me get to the point. lot of the boys in my family are born stark blonde, then later the complexion darkens and the hair goes either brown or black. some of my cousins look darker than me, some lighter. some stay blonde. thats basically our genes displaying our family history, the way i see it. ~Hic Manebimus Optime~ |
IfYouInsist
User ID: 41011373 United States 03/11/2021 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you know how they say the brain is layered, with the archaic parts sandwitched beneath the "newer" and more complex adaptations? Quoting: Plato II and how that happened over time? then think about human gestation how we start as an egg and then look like a squirmy fish creature, then form to be a lil human? they say both those things are like our bodies "historical record" that proves our evolution over time. ok well i cant prove evolution but let me get to the point. lot of the boys in my family are born stark blonde, then later the complexion darkens and the hair goes either brown or black. some of my cousins look darker than me, some lighter. some stay blonde. thats basically our genes displaying our family history, the way i see it. A rather poor understanding of phenotypic expression, but everything's metaphorical these days. |
Plato II
(OP) User ID: 77134059 United States 03/11/2021 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | seriosuly it really is and you should consider long and hard why you are not happy simply being american. well lets ponder that for a second...... i cite the american people as exibit A your majesty. so it' really is about identifying yourself differently than the idea of just being american like an ambiguous melting pot. you feel that just being an american doesnt allow you to accurately describe your identity and set you apart from the rest. i guess we all just want to be the same and different at the same time. theres a saying in USA idk if you have it across the pond- that when you assume, you make an "ass" out of "u" and "me" ~Hic Manebimus Optime~ |
Plato II
(OP) User ID: 77134059 United States 03/11/2021 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Plato II i am a member of the human race like all of us, the racial identity to me, does not matter unless its for purposes of cultural enrichment, so to bring us closer together not create partitions. ok yes, lets all transcend racial identity. good way of putting it. I'm an individual. Human raceism is still racism, given that it relies on the same mechanisms of enforcement and plays the same favorites. Sorry. why sorry? Sorry because some people tried using racial slurs to motivate me, then protested that they weren't racist. Sorry because that means my dignity is more important to me than working together with those who don't have any respect for it. you never have to apologize for stating you beliefs :) all good ~Hic Manebimus Optime~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79448203 United Kingdom 03/11/2021 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79448203 seriosuly it really is and you should consider long and hard why you are not happy simply being american. well lets ponder that for a second...... i cite the american people as exibit A your majesty. so it' really is about identifying yourself differently than the idea of just being american like an ambiguous melting pot. you feel that just being an american doesnt allow you to accurately describe your identity and set you apart from the rest. i guess we all just want to be the same and different at the same time. theres a saying in USA idk if you have it across the pond- that when you assume, you make an "ass" out of "u" and "me" you're trying to describe your identity in a way that sets you apart from other americans. because you're simply not happy saying you're american when you fill out paperwork. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79806426 United States 03/11/2021 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that scene always gets the adrenaine pumping.... they are from the city of Lucca, which is in the northwest. our family motto is actually in french, though we dont ever tell people that. italians dont really like the french too much. so yeah they are Genovese. Then you probably qualify as full blooded Caucasian even by the archaic 'one drop' rule. I'm mostly Scottish/German on my fathers side and fully Italian (Calabria) on my mothers so chances are pretty good some Sicilian blood snuck in there somewhere way back. |
Plato II
(OP) User ID: 77134059 United States 03/11/2021 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ok, im specifically referencing black friday stampedes to buy shit (can we even say black friday anymore?) walmart people fast food gross consumerism fat people drug addicts and criminals other fucked up things about USA people thats what i want to distance myself from. the melting pot is good. i repeat. the melting pot is good. ~Hic Manebimus Optime~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79448203 United Kingdom 03/11/2021 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | UK AC- its not even that, Quoting: Plato II ok, im specifically referencing black friday stampedes to buy shit (can we even say black friday anymore?) walmart people fast food gross consumerism fat people drug addicts and criminals other fucked up things about USA people thats what i want to distance myself from. the melting pot is good. i repeat. the melting pot is good. ok, im with ya. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76173659 Germany 03/11/2021 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Plato II well lets ponder that for a second...... i cite the american people as exibit A your majesty. so it' really is about identifying yourself differently than the idea of just being american like an ambiguous melting pot. you feel that just being an american doesnt allow you to accurately describe your identity and set you apart from the rest. i guess we all just want to be the same and different at the same time. theres a saying in USA idk if you have it across the pond- that when you assume, you make an "ass" out of "u" and "me" you're trying to describe your identity in a way that sets you apart from other americans. because you're simply not happy saying you're american when you fill out paperwork. You should really not mock white Americans. Still didn't learn your lesson now that London looks like Pakistan? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80131231 03/11/2021 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | seriosuly it really is and you should consider long and hard why you are not happy simply being american. well lets ponder that for a second...... i cite the american people as exibit A your majesty. so it' really is about identifying yourself differently than the idea of just being american like an ambiguous melting pot. you feel that just being an american doesnt allow you to accurately describe your identity and set you apart from the rest. i guess we all just want to be the same and different at the same time. No matter how you wish to identify yourself, other people have been programmed to stereotype you as per their arbitrary beliefs. If you are a proud American but look different than,.... Look different, talk different, dress different,uhm,... Different than what/who really? American is American right? Some people need to hate I guess. |
IfYouInsist
User ID: 41011373 United States 03/11/2021 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | UK AC- its not even that, Quoting: Plato II ok, im specifically referencing black friday stampedes to buy shit (can we even say black friday anymore?) walmart people fast food gross consumerism fat people drug addicts and criminals other fucked up things about USA people thats what i want to distance myself from. the melting pot is good. i repeat. the melting pot is good. I'd rather have the WASPs running the ship. I can never trust the multiculturalism of people who are still sore about the old ruling class. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76173659 Germany 03/11/2021 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | UK AC- its not even that, Quoting: Plato II ok, im specifically referencing black friday stampedes to buy shit (can we even say black friday anymore?) walmart people fast food gross consumerism fat people drug addicts and criminals other fucked up things about USA people thats what i want to distance myself from. the melting pot is good. i repeat. the melting pot is good. The melting pot is a disaster I repeat the melting pot is a disaster. |
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Plato II
(OP) User ID: 77134059 United States 03/11/2021 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | UK AC- its not even that, Quoting: Plato II ok, im specifically referencing black friday stampedes to buy shit (can we even say black friday anymore?) walmart people fast food gross consumerism fat people drug addicts and criminals other fucked up things about USA people thats what i want to distance myself from. the melting pot is good. i repeat. the melting pot is good. I'd rather have the WASPs running the ship. I can never trust the multiculturalism of people who are still sore about the old ruling class. ive experienced only 2 regions really in my life so im limited in persepctive. first 28 years in boston, multicultural hub, plenty of museums, colleges, hopsitals, government stuff... people of all walks, some only in this country days, or weeks, or just visiting. had roommates from at least 15 different countries. thats what im used to. now, in northern california the population consists of only 3 demographic groups. white people, indigenous people, and mexican americans. i really really miss the city. cant find any turkish food here. the pizza sucks ass. i could go on and on. we need diversity i know this from experience. ~Hic Manebimus Optime~ |
Plato II
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User ID: 41011373 United States 03/11/2021 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | UK AC- its not even that, Quoting: Plato II ok, im specifically referencing black friday stampedes to buy shit (can we even say black friday anymore?) walmart people fast food gross consumerism fat people drug addicts and criminals other fucked up things about USA people thats what i want to distance myself from. the melting pot is good. i repeat. the melting pot is good. I'd rather have the WASPs running the ship. I can never trust the multiculturalism of people who are still sore about the old ruling class. ive experienced only 2 regions really in my life so im limited in persepctive. first 28 years in boston, multicultural hub, plenty of museums, colleges, hopsitals, government stuff... people of all walks, some only in this country days, or weeks, or just visiting. had roommates from at least 15 different countries. thats what im used to. now, in northern california the population consists of only 3 demographic groups. white people, indigenous people, and mexican americans. i really really miss the city. cant find any turkish food here. the pizza sucks ass. i could go on and on. we need diversity i know this from experience. The WASPs came up with that, and the immigrants they helped by doing so very quickly divvied it up into corners. There's a reason the multicultural left isn't the same as the labor left. I don't identify with either, but clearly that divide exists for a reason. A lot of the labor left became Reagan Democrats, so there isn't the kind of loyalty there that someone like you would have me exhibit. I'm also not allowed to become politically wise from the lesson that so clearly offers. TLDR: on closer inspection, I don't think your 'we' ever actually existed, and it hasn't come into being because of moral reasons, but political ones. Will you still 'love' me tomorrow? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78504595 Poland 03/11/2021 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You should really look into the person who came up with the term melting pot btw. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76173659 What do you think he was? "The melting pot metaphor, touchstone of America's debate over immigration, was claimed by the rabbi of a New York City synagogue, who said he coined it in a Passover sermon he gave exactly 100 years ago." |
Plato II
(OP) User ID: 77134059 United States 03/11/2021 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You should really look into the person who came up with the term melting pot btw. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76173659 What do you think he was? "The melting pot metaphor, touchstone of America's debate over immigration, was claimed by the rabbi of a New York City synagogue, who said he coined it in a Passover sermon he gave exactly 100 years ago." didnt find that in my wikipedia search link plz? ~Hic Manebimus Optime~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59144753 Sweden 03/11/2021 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You should really look into the person who came up with the term melting pot btw. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76173659 What do you think he was? "The melting pot metaphor, touchstone of America's debate over immigration, was claimed by the rabbi of a New York City synagogue, who said he coined it in a Passover sermon he gave exactly 100 years ago." didnt find that in my wikipedia search link plz? New York Times. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79448203 United Kingdom 03/11/2021 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You should really look into the person who came up with the term melting pot btw. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76173659 What do you think he was? "The melting pot metaphor, touchstone of America's debate over immigration, was claimed by the rabbi of a New York City synagogue, who said he coined it in a Passover sermon he gave exactly 100 years ago." didnt find that in my wikipedia search link plz? [link to www.nytimes.com (secure)] |
Plato II
(OP) User ID: 77134059 United States 03/11/2021 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You should really look into the person who came up with the term melting pot btw. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76173659 What do you think he was? "The melting pot metaphor, touchstone of America's debate over immigration, was claimed by the rabbi of a New York City synagogue, who said he coined it in a Passover sermon he gave exactly 100 years ago." didnt find that in my wikipedia search link plz? New York Times. thats not a link edit- nvm thank you Last Edited by Plato II on 03/11/2021 02:15 PM ~Hic Manebimus Optime~ |
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Plato II
(OP) User ID: 77134059 United States 03/11/2021 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With post-modernism, now you are only white if you vote Conservative. A European liberal is no longer considered a part of "whiteness." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75457735 But "you ain't black" if you have black skin and vote Conservative. So it's more about idea's than race or skin color. you starting to see why the Dalai Lama doesn't even want to reincarnate anymore? the oppression is getting heavy on planet earth. ~Hic Manebimus Optime~ |
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Fortunabeargirl
User ID: 79243720 United States 03/11/2021 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a biracial hispanic, I can relate. My mom is full-blooded Puerto Rican, which means a mix of Taino Indian, Black and European Spaniard. My dad is Polish and Czech. I always put "other." Sometimes I feel like a nut. Sometimes I don't. ***Certified Thread Killah*** |
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