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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79425528 Canada 03/12/2021 12:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lets start a thread where we could share ideas for living off grid. One never knows when shit will hit us hard, a power outage could leave us in a cold and dark scenario similar to what occurred in Texas recently. Quoting: Bandito del Cielo A few things that come to my mind immediately are water, electricity,shelter. We always need water/electricity to run appliances, heaters, lights etc, and of course shelter to keep us safe and out of the elements. This has the potential to turn into a life saving thread. Lets start off with a few videos I came across that show how to pump water, regulate the flow, build a relatively cheap off grid cabin, with solar/battery and/or, a water powered generator. Edit! Added Solar panel with battery bank/videos/edits/fair use clause Its a work in progress. I am really hoping this thread generates input. We all get an opportunity to save money at the same time. lets have some fun sharing, and learning. Simple off grid Cabin that anyone can build & afford Free power- How to convert an old washing machine into a water powered generator How to Make a "Water Ram" off-grid Water Pump, requires no electricity Control liquid flow using a Tesla valve. (gas, water) 1.2kw Solar Panels Off Grid - 24v battery bank running air conditioner and more. In interest of using what you have and not what you want. FAIR USE NOTICE: The use of the media material found in this thread is protected by the Fair Use Clause of the U.S. Copyright Act of 1976,allowing for the rebroadcast of copyrighted materials for the purposes of commentary, criticism, and education. This site may contain copyrighted material whose use has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. Users may make such material available in an effort to advance awareness and understanding of issues relating to civil rights, economics, individual rights, international affairs, liberty, science & technology, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material in accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. |
Bandito del Cielo
(OP) User ID: 79477545 United States 03/12/2021 01:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Awesome dogs those Malinois! My breed Nice share. My concern would be rain water running downslope and drenching you in that scenario. OK for sure for a one nighter, I wouldnt be so elaborate though. Mine would be more aligned to a lean to type set up, nice fire and reflector. Cozy Im done for the night folks, please keep em coming, if I missed a video you shared I will catch up tomorrow, I`m tired. Thank you everyone for contributing. Last Edited by I lick public toilet seats on 03/12/2021 09:20 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79389617 United States 03/13/2021 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Complete camp stove kit that includes 6 feet of chimney pipe, legs, flue brush, damper tool and racks in a portable carrying case 73 Sq. In. cooking surface with included racks for drying small items or for indirect heat Easy-adjust door damper allows for heat output adjustment Heavy duty steel construction for reliability Perfect for camping, backpacking, ice fishing, and hunting Dimensions: 14 inches long, 7-4/5 inches wide (19.38 inches with grates) and 15-2/3 inches tall (22 inches with legs extended); Can use wood up to 13 inches long and 3 inches in diameter Firebox measures 13-1/2 inches long, 7-3/4 inches wide and 5-7/8 inches tall; Included 6 foot chimney consists of 7 interlocking stainless steel sections that store easily in the carry case [link to www.amazon.ca (secure)] |
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Bandito del Cielo
(OP) User ID: 79425528 Canada 03/14/2021 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Portable wood burning Stove perfect for bug out. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79389617 Complete camp stove kit that includes 6 feet of chimney pipe, legs, flue brush, damper tool and racks in a portable carrying case 73 Sq. In. cooking surface with included racks for drying small items or for indirect heat Easy-adjust door damper allows for heat output adjustment Heavy duty steel construction for reliability Perfect for camping, backpacking, ice fishing, and hunting Dimensions: 14 inches long, 7-4/5 inches wide (19.38 inches with grates) and 15-2/3 inches tall (22 inches with legs extended); Can use wood up to 13 inches long and 3 inches in diameter Firebox measures 13-1/2 inches long, 7-3/4 inches wide and 5-7/8 inches tall; Included 6 foot chimney consists of 7 interlocking stainless steel sections that store easily in the carry case [link to www.amazon.ca (secure)] I`ve read the reviews on that particular stove and I think this one would be more suitable. [link to www.cabelas.com (secure)] |
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JAZZz50
User ID: 79996701 03/21/2021 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | cpl notes for ya from watching other off-grid or prepper ppl over the years- 1> water being close is critical. so is pumping or moving it. the better your plan here the happier u will b. every person who has attempted living off-grid breathes a huge sigh of relief when they get a water system put in so they no longer have to carry water in buckets. even acroos the back yard becomes a chore very quickly. moving water is their #1 accomplishment within the 1st few years. this they are most happy to have solved. this matters to them more than doing without or having less electricity daily. matters more than any other hard work. 2> firewood. u will need and burn much much more than u think. whatever u think u need to survive winter-TRIPLE IT. yes today we have better insulation and construction methods than Colonial or Pioneer Americans. however, the amount of firewood needed is way under spec'd. watched a show that took groups of ppl and had them live like colonial ppl for the summer. then they were graded. even the duxde who cut the most firewood would not survive thru the entire winter. he would have been a month or 2 short. he had cut firewood constantly. by the way, most use chain saws now. they won't run in a full SHTF for long. how ready are u to use an axe and split mauls? nor are we ready to live with temps near 50.which u would have to do to conserve the wood. 3> that brings me to point 3. even a small family can not do everything alone. there is not enuf time in the day to do it all. u do need to sleep and keep watch over your land. u need to grow food,cut firewood,do recon work for news and supplies,make stuff-tools,clothing,etc. and teach others. the AMISH have larger families and have trained them from babies up to work. Americans and other 1st world nations are spolied. we are not ready. hence it will take a community working together and weeding out the bad apples to survive. even then ,many will die of starvation, lack of medicines,etc. the emotional toll will take down many others. JAZZZ50 2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out. we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth. if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars. |
Bandito del Cielo
(OP) User ID: 79425528 Canada 03/22/2021 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Portable wood burning Stove perfect for bug out. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79389617 Complete camp stove kit that includes 6 feet of chimney pipe, legs, flue brush, damper tool and racks in a portable carrying case 73 Sq. In. cooking surface with included racks for drying small items or for indirect heat Easy-adjust door damper allows for heat output adjustment Heavy duty steel construction for reliability Perfect for camping, backpacking, ice fishing, and hunting Dimensions: 14 inches long, 7-4/5 inches wide (19.38 inches with grates) and 15-2/3 inches tall (22 inches with legs extended); Can use wood up to 13 inches long and 3 inches in diameter Firebox measures 13-1/2 inches long, 7-3/4 inches wide and 5-7/8 inches tall; Included 6 foot chimney consists of 7 interlocking stainless steel sections that store easily in the carry case [link to www.amazon.ca (secure)] I`ve read the reviews on that particular stove and I think this one would be more suitable. [link to www.cabelas.com (secure)] Purchased this stove and I am glad I did 5 out of 5 ***** |
Bandito del Cielo
(OP) User ID: 79425528 Canada 03/22/2021 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | cpl notes for ya from watching other off-grid or prepper ppl over the years- Quoting: JAZZz50 1> water being close is critical. so is pumping or moving it. the better your plan here the happier u will b. every person who has attempted living off-grid breathes a huge sigh of relief when they get a water system put in so they no longer have to carry water in buckets. even acroos the back yard becomes a chore very quickly. moving water is their #1 accomplishment within the 1st few years. this they are most happy to have solved. this matters to them more than doing without or having less electricity daily. matters more than any other hard work. 2> firewood. u will need and burn much much more than u think. whatever u think u need to survive winter-TRIPLE IT. yes today we have better insulation and construction methods than Colonial or Pioneer Americans. however, the amount of firewood needed is way under spec'd. watched a show that took groups of ppl and had them live like colonial ppl for the summer. then they were graded. even the duxde who cut the most firewood would not survive thru the entire winter. he would have been a month or 2 short. he had cut firewood constantly. by the way, most use chain saws now. they won't run in a full SHTF for long. how ready are u to use an axe and split mauls? nor are we ready to live with temps near 50.which u would have to do to conserve the wood. 3> that brings me to point 3. even a small family can not do everything alone. there is not enuf time in the day to do it all. u do need to sleep and keep watch over your land. u need to grow food,cut firewood,do recon work for news and supplies,make stuff-tools,clothing,etc. and teach others. the AMISH have larger families and have trained them from babies up to work. Americans and other 1st world nations are spolied. we are not ready. hence it will take a community working together and weeding out the bad apples to survive. even then ,many will die of starvation, lack of medicines,etc. the emotional toll will take down many others. Great advice. Thank you When it comes to cutting firewood , my rule of thumb is; when you think you have enough, cut 10 x more. |
Bandito del Cielo
(OP) User ID: 79425528 Canada 03/22/2021 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Portable wood burning Stove perfect for bug out. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79389617 Complete camp stove kit that includes 6 feet of chimney pipe, legs, flue brush, damper tool and racks in a portable carrying case 73 Sq. In. cooking surface with included racks for drying small items or for indirect heat Easy-adjust door damper allows for heat output adjustment Heavy duty steel construction for reliability Perfect for camping, backpacking, ice fishing, and hunting Dimensions: 14 inches long, 7-4/5 inches wide (19.38 inches with grates) and 15-2/3 inches tall (22 inches with legs extended); Can use wood up to 13 inches long and 3 inches in diameter Firebox measures 13-1/2 inches long, 7-3/4 inches wide and 5-7/8 inches tall; Included 6 foot chimney consists of 7 interlocking stainless steel sections that store easily in the carry case [link to www.amazon.ca (secure)] I`ve read the reviews on that particular stove and I think this one would be more suitable. [link to www.cabelas.com (secure)] Purchased this stove and I am glad I did 5 out of 5 ***** A good addition [link to www.competitiveedgeproducts.com (secure)] review |
BLARGON
User ID: 79627971 United States 03/22/2021 08:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why not just a singlewide with all the comforts of home on a cheap piece of property? Add in solar panels and cut down a tree on your dirt road and you are off the grid..why live in literal dirt huts. the only evidence i would exist would be county tax record which would probably go to shit anyway if SHTF. anyway here is my setup 80 miles north in florida towards Cross city I have a freshwater creek loaded with Crayfish, Sunfish, Catfish, probably others...I have orange trees and chickens i transplanted and they roam freely on the property and are wild to it. Wildlife is extremely abundant, Fowl, Gators, Pigs, Deer...the place Well stocked with rice, canned goods, whisky in the deep freezer..etc. Plenty of DVD's and things to do and an internet dish if i wanted to pay for it. I did all this last year after Covid started. Property - $6000 Used Singlewide - $10000 Solar Setup - $7200 Well - $600 I did the septic myself...just a barrel with holes in it a few feet underground (it will work) I mean for only $25000 its not a bad setup. https://imgur.com/a/viMjZKg .Just trying to give people idea's. It would be a comfy way to ride out the apocalypse and its extremely affordable. To all those who think this is sort of setup is unreasonable, look again at the price and do some google searches. Used Singlewides are a dime a dozen and they are easy to move there are many haulers who will do it for less than $50 a mile and that may seem expensive its really not...you shop in the county you have property in Last Edited by BLARGON on 03/22/2021 09:03 PM BLARGON |
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Riff-Raff
DEFCON 4 User ID: 52530071 United States 03/22/2021 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For the people that are going to bug out and move around. Be aware that local folk will shoot you if you go onto their land. They don't take kindly to strangers... Quoting: DuckNCover I'm going to bug in. Have all my preps including a Solar system and large stock tank for water... Exactly. Plus private-use drones with IR cameras for less than $1,000 and other high-tech gear that is easily and relatively inexpensively available to civilians now makes bugging out undetected much more difficult than it was even ten years ago. A well-concealed underground shelter with sufficient supplies to stay hidden for a bare minimum of 90 days is the way to go. Heat is not a huge problem since temps remain pretty constant underground. Let the looters ransack your house. It's not defendable against a large armed group anyway. Hunker down out of sight and out of mind and let the people up top kill each other off. Once things have settled down, then poke your nose out a little and see if it's safe to come up yet. "Collapse is a process, not an event." - Unknown "It's in your nature to destroy yourselves." - Terminator 2 "Risking my life for people I hate for reasons I don't understand." - Riff-Raff Deputy Director - DEFCON Warning System |
Deplorable Zenobia
User ID: 80076822 United States 03/22/2021 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One of the things our ancestors would chide us now on would be not learning the different types of wood, their properties and how to max your fire w/ what you have. One of my most valued possessions is my Foxfire Book series set, tho' I'm missing 2 volumes. And thought struggles against the results, trying to avoid those unpleasant results while keeping on with that way of thinking. That is what I call 'sustained incoherence.' ...David Bohm “How, O Zenobia, hast thou dared to insult Roman emperors?” ...Aurelian, 44th Emperor of the Roman Empire |
Bandito del Cielo
(OP) User ID: 79682491 United States 03/22/2021 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why not just a singlewide with all the comforts of home on a cheap piece of property? Add in solar panels and cut down a tree on your dirt road and you are off the grid..why live in literal dirt huts. the only evidence i would exist would be county tax record which would probably go to shit anyway if SHTF. Quoting: BLARGON anyway here is my setup 80 miles north in florida towards Cross city I have a freshwater creek loaded with Crayfish, Sunfish, Catfish, probably others...I have orange trees and chickens i transplanted and they roam freely on the property and are wild to it. Wildlife is extremely abundant, Fowl, Gators, Pigs, Deer...the place Well stocked with rice, canned goods, whisky in the deep freezer..etc. Plenty of DVD's and things to do and an internet dish if i wanted to pay for it. I did all this last year after Covid started. Property - $6000 Used Singlewide - $10000 Solar Setup - $7200 Well - $600 I did the septic myself...just a barrel with holes in it a few feet underground (it will work) I mean for only $25000 its not a bad setup. https://imgur.com/a/viMjZKg .Just trying to give people idea's. It would be a comfy way to ride out the apocalypse and its extremely affordable. To all those who think this is sort of setup is unreasonable, look again at the price and do some google searches. Used Singlewides are a dime a dozen and they are easy to move there are many haulers who will do it for less than $50 a mile and that may seem expensive its really not...you shop in the county you have property in Some people might not be able to afford that. Its what you can afford. I`m trying to include anybody and everybody. Last Edited by I lick public toilet seats on 03/22/2021 09:32 PM |
Bandito del Cielo
(OP) User ID: 79682491 United States 03/22/2021 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Howdy OP: Quoting: Underground_Dude What do you consider living off grid? Off grid used to mean living without elec/water from a company/city and bartering for most essentials. It didn't mean doing without those items. What do you consider off grid? Off grid is not paying for water or electricity, and heat. Setting up an affordable way to get off "The Grid" Then there are ways to do it old style, straight off the land, survival. I`m inclined to keep all options open. If your shack or shelter, cave or whatever is destroyed, whats your back up plan? |
BLARGON
User ID: 79627971 United States 03/22/2021 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why not just a singlewide with all the comforts of home on a cheap piece of property? Add in solar panels and cut down a tree on your dirt road and you are off the grid..why live in literal dirt huts. the only evidence i would exist would be county tax record which would probably go to shit anyway if SHTF. Quoting: BLARGON anyway here is my setup 80 miles north in florida towards Cross city I have a freshwater creek loaded with Crayfish, Sunfish, Catfish, probably others...I have orange trees and chickens i transplanted and they roam freely on the property and are wild to it. Wildlife is extremely abundant, Fowl, Gators, Pigs, Deer...the place Well stocked with rice, canned goods, whisky in the deep freezer..etc. Plenty of DVD's and things to do and an internet dish if i wanted to pay for it. I did all this last year after Covid started. Property - $6000 Used Singlewide - $10000 Solar Setup - $7200 Well - $600 I did the septic myself...just a barrel with holes in it a few feet underground (it will work) I mean for only $25000 its not a bad setup. https://imgur.com/a/viMjZKg .Just trying to give people idea's. It would be a comfy way to ride out the apocalypse and its extremely affordable. To all those who think this is sort of setup is unreasonable, look again at the price and do some google searches. Used Singlewides are a dime a dozen and they are easy to move there are many haulers who will do it for less than $50 a mile and that may seem expensive its really not...you shop in the county you have property in Some people might not be able to afford that. Its what you can afford. I`m trying to include anybody and everybody. I mean you could always find cheaper property and a cheap singlewide. I just don't like the idea camping. The urge to go back and take my chances after a few weeks would be high...you could evan haul a shed right now and do what i did for half the price. everyones got 401k's...its time to liquidate or loan them. https://imgur.com/a/Aq1z7yl Again Idea's. Roaming around isnt a good idea Last Edited by BLARGON on 03/22/2021 09:40 PM BLARGON |
Bandito del Cielo
(OP) User ID: 79682491 United States 03/22/2021 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why not just a singlewide with all the comforts of home on a cheap piece of property? Add in solar panels and cut down a tree on your dirt road and you are off the grid..why live in literal dirt huts. the only evidence i would exist would be county tax record which would probably go to shit anyway if SHTF. Quoting: BLARGON anyway here is my setup 80 miles north in florida towards Cross city I have a freshwater creek loaded with Crayfish, Sunfish, Catfish, probably others...I have orange trees and chickens i transplanted and they roam freely on the property and are wild to it. Wildlife is extremely abundant, Fowl, Gators, Pigs, Deer...the place Well stocked with rice, canned goods, whisky in the deep freezer..etc. Plenty of DVD's and things to do and an internet dish if i wanted to pay for it. I did all this last year after Covid started. Property - $6000 Used Singlewide - $10000 Solar Setup - $7200 Well - $600 I did the septic myself...just a barrel with holes in it a few feet underground (it will work) I mean for only $25000 its not a bad setup. https://imgur.com/a/viMjZKg .Just trying to give people idea's. It would be a comfy way to ride out the apocalypse and its extremely affordable. To all those who think this is sort of setup is unreasonable, look again at the price and do some google searches. Used Singlewides are a dime a dozen and they are easy to move there are many haulers who will do it for less than $50 a mile and that may seem expensive its really not...you shop in the county you have property in Some people might not be able to afford that. Its what you can afford. I`m trying to include anybody and everybody. I mean you could always find cheaper property and a cheap singlewide. I just don't like the idea camping. The urge to go back and take my chances after a few weeks would be high If something catastrophic happened, you might not have a choice. Keep all options open. Hone up on every skill you have, and can learn. Teach it to your kids pass it on, to everyone you care about. In the end its going to be survival of the fittest. The foolish man built his house upon the sand. Last Edited by I lick public toilet seats on 03/22/2021 09:44 PM |
Deplorable Zenobia
User ID: 80076822 United States 03/22/2021 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That will scare the absolute shit out of you and then you will fall into depression. It is that realistic. And not out of the realm of possibility at all. Whether man does something stupid or our very own Sun has a hissy fit (Carrington event like). And thought struggles against the results, trying to avoid those unpleasant results while keeping on with that way of thinking. That is what I call 'sustained incoherence.' ...David Bohm “How, O Zenobia, hast thou dared to insult Roman emperors?” ...Aurelian, 44th Emperor of the Roman Empire |
BLARGON
User ID: 79627971 United States 03/22/2021 10:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To get a truly realistic idea of how important bush craft skills are in the scheme of heavy shit scenario, just read William Forstchen's books series, starting w/ One Second After (a series of EMPs wipes out many countries across the globe). Quoting: Deplorable Zenobia That will scare the absolute shit out of you and then you will fall into depression. It is that realistic. And not out of the realm of possibility at all. Whether man does something stupid or our very own Sun has a hissy fit (Carrington event like). will solar panels survive a carrington event? im not even sure. I know most are emp proof because the primary effect of an emp amplifies through a grid BLARGON |
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Underground_Dude
User ID: 80165946 United States 03/22/2021 10:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Howdy OP: Quoting: Underground_Dude What do you consider living off grid? Off grid used to mean living without elec/water from a company/city and bartering for most essentials. It didn't mean doing without those items. What do you consider off grid? Off grid is not paying for water or electricity, and heat. Setting up an affordable way to get off "The Grid" Then there are ways to do it old style, straight off the land, survival. I`m inclined to keep all options open. If your shack or shelter, cave or whatever is destroyed, whats your back up plan? By that definition we've been off grid for 30 years with the bartering an off and on depending if I'm retired or not. We are where most people would run to and have tried to over the years. In that light if it was destroyed we would rebuild on the same spot but I'm not sure how that would happen without something extremely catastrophic happening. Man/woman power is not in short supply here. 351 (all vets) + wives and children, we aren't retired at the moment. ________ Low cost structures: Geodesic domes, a dome frame and plywood skin can be used as a form to make concrete domes. It would be used to hold the rebar and construction cloth and as a backer to hold either spay on gunite or aircrete. Remove the frame and skin from the inside to be used on other domes. Relatively cheap, durable and very concealable. |
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