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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31609283 United States 03/13/2021 01:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | when your time comes, nothing can change the date, moving around is a waste of precious time, you can survive anywhere, you just have to connect to glp on a daily basis to know what is going down, we know what it is before it happens, info is everything, |
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Victor Vectors
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78363501 United States 03/13/2021 05:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I spent a lot of time thinking about this issue when I was looking to leave the Chicago area several years ago. I thought about it through the lens of shtf times, no electric, internet, etc., etc. I grew up in Montana...it's beautiful, the people are great, BUT there are no jobs and like others have pointed out, winters are killers. I remember days of 70 below zero with wind chill factor. I took the entire north off my list for that reason. The amount of energy needed to just keep warm enough to stay alive 4 months out of the year is just too much. Plus...the caldera. Don't want to be around that! Both coasts off the list. If they F around with weather, if any of the biblical stuff comes to be, I don't want to be anywhere near massive bodies of water like oceans. The southwest is beautiful too, but water is a problem. Also, I took all southern border states off the list. There's enough worries with desperate Americans all around. I don't want the additional danger of gobs of illegals to worry about. That leaves the central, southern states. I chose Tennessee. Great, conservative government, very free, no state income tax, good people, mild seasons and plenty of remote/mountain areas. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77099098 United States 03/13/2021 05:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nope. It's about population density. There are places a bushcrafter can slip into with supplies a a long time and last a long time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61427872 States all have issues, so it ain't about states per se. It is about firearm rights, like minded people, rural regions supporting fertile agriculture with 3 growing seasons and rainfall. Texas is off the list due to terrible illegal invaders. Abbott just made Texas a district oh Israel..... |
Super Straight Splinterhead
User ID: 74470288 United States 03/13/2021 05:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Silent Yachts 55: Solar/electric hybrid yacht test | Review | Motor Boat & Yachting Quoting: Victor Vectors [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] 1.5 million,nice boat . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78063540 United States 03/13/2021 06:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Silent Yachts 55: Solar/electric hybrid yacht test | Review | Motor Boat & Yachting Quoting: Victor Vectors [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] What a maintenance nightmare. Sails would be a much better option - hell rowing would be a better option. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 34379757 United States 03/13/2021 06:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Find a place near a forest with abundant water and a temperate climate, preferably with old abandoned mines or caves. Small towns might make it if the people band together and cut off from the big cities via blockades and brass. you don't have to be impossible- just the most difficult to deal with. There will be places like this but not everywhere and not many. Get to know the neighbors. Be prepared to leave. Get a lead safe for your devices and get a walkie/cb for inside. Be sure to have batteries for it. When things start, it will be quick. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69316698 Belarus 03/13/2021 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's important to realize that if one has a hardwood forest, then one can season that wood, and then run a wood-gas operation to at least operate a generator or even a vehicle. Realize this is short term. Say a scenario arises where we never in any way get things back to normal. The roads will be crap in short order, but the tires for a vehicle will be the limiting factor. No fuel will be made for regular citizens. It will be primarily for military use, then for some semblance of scientific use. If truly in your own, in a single decade, with zero maintenance, and no fuel and tires being made, you won't be driving. It will be back to mule teams and carts over miserable dirt roads. Any flashflooding will wash out existing roads. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69316698 Belarus 03/13/2021 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The maximum lifespan of asphalt is 15 years under ideal conditions. The maximum lifespan of concrete roads is 20-40 years under ideal conditions. Nothing will be maintained and hardly ideal. Perhaps handcars will operate reliably? These were used on railroads, so two men might drive one, but imagine any strong downward slope! It would get away from them. [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69316698 Belarus 03/13/2021 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to m.youtube.com (secure)] Flashflooding washes out a road in Maine. This would happen all over. Plus many people would abandon vehicles and blocking roads. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69316698 Belarus 03/13/2021 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to m.youtube.com (secure)] In the process of making true hardwood charcoal, the wood is heated but starved of oxygen, and the emissions given off are combustible. That can be diverted to a combustion engine in a vehicle or in a generator. If one had fuel, likely that is what one would use. Biodiesel is less likely. Various oils can be extracted from plants, but to press those oils out, and in sufficient amounts requiring acres of them, makes this far less plausible. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69316698 Belarus 03/13/2021 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In as little as a decade, we won't have the capacity to use standard equipment. We might be back to steam engines that are in museums with hardly anyone able to make new ones and maintain them. Many would end up as serfs on acerage doing hand labor operations under a baron. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69316698 Belarus 03/13/2021 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For the ancient Roman legionaries to conquer, they had to build roads and maintain them so supplies could move across the empire. How many can do so without logistics to supply them with parts and supplies and fuel? NONE. Everything 6-10 years after a collapse would for sure creep to a halt. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69316698 Belarus 03/13/2021 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Say massive world war 3 operations begin. Those bombers escorted by fighter planes will target military sites, but take out water sources, railroads, airfields, barge operations and ports, roads of all kinds. Plus attack petroleum refineries and oilfields. Plus attack all electric utility sites of any kind including nuclear. How close is the nearest nuclear generating plant to your buyout location? You will get fallout from them even if no true nuclear exchange happens. Russia and China don't want to poison the USA as that is no use to them. The USA has no designs on Russia or China. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69316698 Belarus 03/13/2021 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Say massive world war 3 operations begin. Those bombers escorted by fighter planes will target military sites, but take out water sources, railroads, airfields, barge operations and ports, roads of all kinds. Plus attack petroleum refineries and oilfields. Plus attack all electric utility sites of any kind including nuclear. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69316698 How close is the nearest nuclear generating plant to your bugout location? You will get fallout from them even if no true nuclear exchange happens. Russia and China don't want to poison the USA as that is no use to them. The USA has no designs on Russia or China. [link to www.americangeosciences.org (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69316698 Belarus 03/13/2021 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Going downstream in American history, they used flatboats. Some folks wanting to homestead would make a flatboat and put supplies on it, and pole along that river, and when they got to a port, have the flatboat yanked out by oxen or a mule team. Then they would either sell it, or break it down for lumber to make a crude shed to live in temporarily. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69316698 Belarus 03/13/2021 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] You could have 6-8 guys using oars and wind going upstream, but a mule team is more efficient. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69316698 Belarus 03/13/2021 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because that keelboat likely was hauling goods like bolts of cloth as people desperately needed cloth or nails, that meant a keelboat operator/pilot was a target for river pirates using ranged weapons like a small cannon and then risked being boarded. The only primary reliable trade would plausibly be via keelboats. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69316698 Belarus 03/13/2021 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When you make a dirt road, that is made of clay, and that gets slippery and slick with rain, then hardens and sets up. But that clay under the weight of the carts plus hooves of pack animals then sinks. So you get grooves in the road. And successive animals pull in those grooves. Your cart has to give as it steers across the road used dry and slippery conditions and straining mules. And it needs a very sturdy suspension as you are bouncing along, up and down and side to side. It made people sick to be shaken around like that for miles. Passengers vomited from the shaking and clay dust. And thanks if you have the equipment, trained mules, roads, and a smart driver who can repair the cart if needed. And just on a loaded cart getting stuck and count on a highwayman trying to rob you. So someone is riding shotgun guarding you. And that person better be scary looking and adept and observant. |