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State You Have the Best Chance of Surviving the Grand Culling

 
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What is missing from those attributes of a great remote homestead? SALT. It needs to be near or have a salt lick.
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I'm getting the fuck out of the country
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It's the NWO. You can run but you can't hide. Notice how the whole world went along with the plandemic? So...........
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Hell no, Montana and North Dakota are death traps. Winters are extremely brutal and the fire season is hell. Plus virtually no jobs.

Idaho Utah Texas and Indiana
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when your time comes,

nothing can change the date,

moving around is a waste of precious time,

you can survive anywhere,

you just have to connect to glp on a daily basis to know what is going down,

we know what it is before it happens,

info is everything,
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If you want to live in Montana, I hope you can chop a huge amount of cords of firewood and can do so consistently. Most people can't.
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I spent a lot of time thinking about this issue when I was looking to leave the Chicago area several years ago. I thought about it through the lens of shtf times, no electric, internet, etc., etc.

I grew up in Montana...it's beautiful, the people are great, BUT there are no jobs and like others have pointed out, winters are killers. I remember days of 70 below zero with wind chill factor. I took the entire north off my list for that reason. The amount of energy needed to just keep warm enough to stay alive 4 months out of the year is just too much. Plus...the caldera. Don't want to be around that!

Both coasts off the list. If they F around with weather, if any of the biblical stuff comes to be, I don't want to be anywhere near massive bodies of water like oceans.

The southwest is beautiful too, but water is a problem. Also, I took all southern border states off the list. There's enough worries with desperate Americans all around. I don't want the additional danger of gobs of illegals to worry about.

That leaves the central, southern states. I chose Tennessee. Great, conservative government, very free, no state income tax, good people, mild seasons and plenty of remote/mountain areas.
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Nope. It's about population density. There are places a bushcrafter can slip into with supplies a a long time and last a long time.

States all have issues, so it ain't about states per se. It is about firearm rights, like minded people, rural regions supporting fertile agriculture with 3 growing seasons and rainfall.

Texas is off the list due to terrible illegal invaders.
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You've got half the entire planet if you can live off the Pacific ocean (collect water, eat fish, Etc)
You'll need to get out of your 'comfort zone', but it's doable.
Mistakes won't be forgiven, but life will be seriously real.
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 Quoting: Victor Vectors


What a maintenance nightmare. Sails would be a much better option - hell rowing would be a better option.
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Nope! set up home right in their own neighborhood, they have not the ability to seek within.
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Find a place near a forest with abundant water and a temperate climate, preferably with old abandoned mines or caves. Small towns might make it if the people band together and cut off from the big cities via blockades and brass. you don't have to be impossible- just the most difficult to deal with. There will be places like this but not everywhere and not many. Get to know the neighbors. Be prepared to leave. Get a lead safe for your devices and get a walkie/cb for inside. Be sure to have batteries for it. When things start, it will be quick.
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State of mind.
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It's important to realize that if one has a hardwood forest, then one can season that wood, and then run a wood-gas operation to at least operate a generator or even a vehicle.

Realize this is short term. Say a scenario arises where we never in any way get things back to normal. The roads will be crap in short order, but the tires for a vehicle will be the limiting factor. No fuel will be made for regular citizens. It will be primarily for military use, then for some semblance of scientific use.

If truly in your own, in a single decade, with zero maintenance, and no fuel and tires being made, you won't be driving.

It will be back to mule teams and carts over miserable dirt roads. Any flashflooding will wash out existing roads.
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The maximum lifespan of a tire made today is 6-10 years before dry rot gets them.
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The maximum lifespan of asphalt is 15 years under ideal conditions.

The maximum lifespan of concrete roads is 20-40 years under ideal conditions.

Nothing will be maintained and hardly ideal.

Perhaps handcars will operate reliably? These were used on railroads, so two men might drive one, but imagine any strong downward slope! It would get away from them.
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Why the fuck would you WANT to survive?

You think you'll just farm or some shit afterwards? Fucking delusional...
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Exactly, Im going to heaven!
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Flashflooding washes out a road in Maine.

This would happen all over. Plus many people would abandon vehicles and blocking roads.
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In the process of making true hardwood charcoal, the wood is heated but starved of oxygen, and the emissions given off are combustible. That can be diverted to a combustion engine in a vehicle or in a generator.

If one had fuel, likely that is what one would use.

Biodiesel is less likely. Various oils can be extracted from plants, but to press those oils out, and in sufficient amounts requiring acres of them, makes this far less plausible.
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If there is no fuel, then all postmodern agriculture will be implausible and all logistics will be implausible and no one will have tires regardless.

In as little as a decade, we won't have the capacity to use standard equipment. We might be back to steam engines that are in museums with hardly anyone able to make new ones and maintain them.

Many would end up as serfs on acerage doing hand labor operations under a baron.
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Add Idaho and Utah.
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Idaho is lost.

Apple Maggots to the West, Spokane is a liberals paradise now and they have begun the invasion into N. Idaho. Californians from the South pouring in turning it into a rich mans only club.
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For the ancient Roman legionaries to conquer, they had to build roads and maintain them so supplies could move across the empire.

How many can do so without logistics to supply them with parts and supplies and fuel? NONE.

Everything 6-10 years after a collapse would for sure creep to a halt.
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Say massive world war 3 operations begin. Those bombers escorted by fighter planes will target military sites, but take out water sources, railroads, airfields, barge operations and ports, roads of all kinds. Plus attack petroleum refineries and oilfields. Plus attack all electric utility sites of any kind including nuclear.

How close is the nearest nuclear generating plant to your buyout location? You will get fallout from them even if no true nuclear exchange happens.

Russia and China don't want to poison the USA as that is no use to them. The USA has no designs on Russia or China.
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Say massive world war 3 operations begin. Those bombers escorted by fighter planes will target military sites, but take out water sources, railroads, airfields, barge operations and ports, roads of all kinds. Plus attack petroleum refineries and oilfields. Plus attack all electric utility sites of any kind including nuclear.

How close is the nearest nuclear generating plant to your bugout location? You will get fallout from them even if no true nuclear exchange happens.

Russia and China don't want to poison the USA as that is no use to them. The USA has no designs on Russia or China.
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In history, the only reliable transportation not requiring fuel and roads was sailing. You might use a keelboat to go in both directions on a river. A keelboat travels downstream by a sail and current, but upstream would take a mule team to walk along the banks and be propelled along until the mule team got weary.

Going downstream in American history, they used flatboats. Some folks wanting to homestead would make a flatboat and put supplies on it, and pole along that river, and when they got to a port, have the flatboat yanked out by oxen or a mule team. Then they would either sell it, or break it down for lumber to make a crude shed to live in temporarily.
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You could have 6-8 guys using oars and wind going upstream, but a mule team is more efficient.
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Because that keelboat likely was hauling goods like bolts of cloth as people desperately needed cloth or nails, that meant a keelboat operator/pilot was a target for river pirates using ranged weapons like a small cannon and then risked being boarded.

The only primary reliable trade would plausibly be via keelboats.
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None. Yellowstone will be the final nail in America's coffin. Gods wrath upon America for decades of Roe v Wade.
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When you make a dirt road, that is made of clay, and that gets slippery and slick with rain, then hardens and sets up. But that clay under the weight of the carts plus hooves of pack animals then sinks. So you get grooves in the road. And successive animals pull in those grooves.

Your cart has to give as it steers across the road used dry and slippery conditions and straining mules. And it needs a very sturdy suspension as you are bouncing along, up and down and side to side.

It made people sick to be shaken around like that for miles. Passengers vomited from the shaking and clay dust. And thanks if you have the equipment, trained mules, roads, and a smart driver who can repair the cart if needed. And just on a loaded cart getting stuck and count on a highwayman trying to rob you. So someone is riding shotgun guarding you. And that person better be scary looking and adept and observant.





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