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User ID: 79682320 South Africa 03/15/2021 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Synopsis of his letter and paper. Quoting: KRAKEN N3m3s1s This made me sick to my stomach. -Says none of current vaccines prevent replication/transmission. -Should not mass vaccinate during a pandemic. -Immune Escape will result in new more virulent and lethal virus strains. -This can produce a “monster strain” -Innate immunity and vaccinated immunity will be severely compromised or eliminated. -Immune escape is already occurring in vaccinated populations I watched the video and the highwire one. Dels thoughts at the end were very worrying? I haven’t had a chance to watch the video. Link? Thread: Del Bigtree: This is the MOST Important Interview in the History of Mankind |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75327296 United States 03/15/2021 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Synopsis of his letter and paper. Quoting: KRAKEN N3m3s1s This made me sick to my stomach. -Says none of current vaccines prevent replication/transmission. -Should not mass vaccinate during a pandemic. -Immune Escape will result in new more virulent and lethal virus strains. -This can produce a “monster strain” -Innate immunity and vaccinated immunity will be severely compromised or eliminated. -Immune escape is already occurring in vaccinated populations I watched the video and the highwire one. Dels thoughts at the end were very worrying? I haven’t had a chance to watch the video. Link? Thread: Del Bigtree: This is the MOST Important Interview in the History of Mankind Thank you! |
La Listener
User ID: 80082546 United States 03/15/2021 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not clicking your tweets and not watching your long ass videos. if your going to post stop being a bitch poster and summarize in a short sentence wtf your posting. Quoting: led_Dis_Spencer If you take the time to synthesize the information you learn lots. Unfortunately, that, I feel, is what is happening at the higher levels of decision making. This man is passionate, and is not a non-vaxxer. He is coming from science. Remember, Biden proclaims, "We follow the science." Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen. ~Winston Churchill It takes two to speak the truth - one to speak and another to hear (listen).~Thoreau |
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User ID: 46548140 Canada 03/15/2021 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to europe.vaccineconferences.com (secure)] Quoting: ParamedicUK Biography Vanden Bossche received his DVM from the University of Ghent, Belgium, and his PhD degree in Virology from the University of Hohenheim, Germany. He held adjunct faculty appointments at universities in Belgium and Germany. After his career in Academia, Geert joined several vaccine companies (GSK Biologicals, Novartis Vaccines, Solvay Biologicals) to serve various roles in vaccine R&D as well as in late vaccine development. Geert then moved on to join the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation’s GH Discovery team as SPO and later on to work with GAVI as Senior Ebola Program Manager; he subsequently joined the German Center for Infection Research as Head of the Vaccine Development Office. Geert is now primarily serving as a Biotech/ Vaccine consultant while also conducting his own research on NK cell-based vaccines. His work is driven by a relentless passion to translate scientific breakthrough findings into competitive vaccine products. As a creative thinker, innovator, entrepreneur and visionary, Geert has been invited to speak at multiple international congresses. More in here.... [link to www.linkedin.com (secure)] Thanks, Opie. And no, it's no problem his first education was as a vet. I once read that vets were sometimes better than MDs at curing disease because they must look at holistic solutions. |
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User ID: 80082546 United States 03/15/2021 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Snip from the Doc's second letter. Quoting: -Kate- Selectve immune evasion also favors further disseminaton of highly infectous strains as mass vaccinaton is now increasingly turning vaccine recipients into asymptomatc spreaders. The later transmit highly infectous virus to the unprotected or not yet infected subjects. This is exactly the opposite of what the vaccines were supposed to do. Indeed, there is now a general consensus that the vaccines will, indeed, fail to generate herd immunity. In additon, they will also fail to eliminate the steadily increasing number of highly infectous strains because the vaccinal antbodies do no longer match with the variant spike protein of the circulatng strains whereas they’re stll hampering binding of natural antbodies to the virus. We the unvaccinated are now in danger from the vaccinated right?? Am I understanding this correctly? I don't follow the doc's point either. He says that immunizing everyone is bad, because it allows the disease to develop a new more deadly strain. But he gives no reason why this would happen any differently if the population is immunized or not. Only 2 things can happen. The virus can (and will mutate). Then it will spread to everyone it can contact who is not immune to it. So far, so good. But by definition, the new virus he postulates, as being more deadly and not destroyed by our immune systems would get released in any event. Whether or not the population was vaccinated, it would not matter. Because nobody is immune to the new strain. Makes no sense to me. The only dangerous mechanism I can see from immunizations and lockdowns, is maintaining the virus active and in the wild for a much longer time period than a fast burnout to the point of herd immunity would achieve. And if this enabled more SUCCESSIVE virus mutated replications, ie, it mutates once, then that mutated strain gains population, then mutates again, until there is no longer enough of the original protein sequence remaining that the immune system can recognize. Maybe that is what he finally talks about later in his paper, but there is no mention of such in the 1 page open letter he penned. Or maybe it is obvious to virologists, such that he doesn't feel the need to explain it. Or maybe it is covered by their understanding of the term "Viral immune escape" I take it that you are forcing the virus into places that it might not have naturally replicated. It replicates, but it will have a stronger response when it encounters the vaccines. That increases the odds of a more severe mutation than might have happened naturally. Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen. ~Winston Churchill It takes two to speak the truth - one to speak and another to hear (listen).~Thoreau |
La Listener
User ID: 80082546 United States 03/15/2021 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He has some good points, but he didn't even touch on the dangers of an untested vaccine with a history of blood clots and other problems. Quoting: Epic Beard Guy Well, that raises another point. There is a LOT wrong with this that one paper cannot address all of the potential and actual problems. Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen. ~Winston Churchill It takes two to speak the truth - one to speak and another to hear (listen).~Thoreau |
CK Dexter Haven
User ID: 79682320 South Africa 03/15/2021 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, if I read this right, it's not the vaccine itself that could cause issues. Rather the vaccine causing, or perpetuating, virus mutations that could be worse than the original. Quoting: Maguyver right? not right? Correct. We will just have wave after wave of Covid variants. So I guess it’s Herd Immunity or bust now for humanity. There's a disease in chickens called Marek's Disease. They developed a vaccine for it, but it was a 'leaky' vaccine. What that means is that the chickens that got the vaccine still got the disease, but it hid the symptoms. So each chicken could still pass it to another chicken, but showed no symptoms. Each chicken then became a breeding ground for a worse and worse marek's disease. The owners noticed that new chickens that weren't vaccinated died immediately when put in with the vaccinated chickens. So now, all chickens in large farms have to be vaccinated for mareks or they die. This is what I'm worried about, take the vax and become altered and probably die, or don't vax and still die. It looks like that is exactly what's happening? Only unlike the chickens, the vax isn't likely to protect from the new variants. In fact just the opposite might be true, it may reduce the immune systems ability to fight the new variants? They may have really opened Pandora's Box here? |
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Jolly Jumper
User ID: 69278407 Germany 03/15/2021 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He has 2 valid points: 1) Vaccination forces the virus to mutate much faster than usual to survive. 2) Vaccination develops specific immune response to that original Wuhan-virus, but to a mutated virus NOT, there we need unspecific (natural) response, which is not given, since the specific antibodies suppress or displace the unspecific, i.e our immune system is reprogrammed irreversible and out of natural balance. 1+) 2) together will lead to a catastrophe, acording to Geert Vanden Bossche. Last Edited by Jolly Jumper on 03/15/2021 02:34 PM |
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(OP) User ID: 80128617 United Kingdom 03/15/2021 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Isn't a DVM a vet? I'm just trying to track down his credentials, not that I disagree with him. Quoting: Elegant Walnut I imagine you would need vets also for vaccine development if you are working with animal trials. Animal cells are animal cells ?? Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way…… Peace not War. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73756960 United States 03/15/2021 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is this the most important information so far in the Covid-19 pandemic? Open letter from Dr Gerry Vanden Bossche warning the world of pending doom following mass vaccination. In summary: Using a vaccine in the middle of a pandemic will cause variants to the point where vaccines won’t work at all. Also the artificial production of antibodies for a specific virus could weaken the normal response to other variants and other coronaviruses. Causing our natural immune system to fail causing severe illness against basic viruses. Please read..... https://twitter.com/_/status/1368232172872732675 More detail... https://twitter.com/_/status/1370801806419263488 Some history for you. [link to thisistrue.com (secure)] |
ParamedicUK
(OP) User ID: 80128617 United Kingdom 03/15/2021 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And when in a year or two it has become obvious that the "vaccines" are responsible for mass deaths they cannot claim "we did not know". But they will, watch. Quoting: Emergency Patriot Hologram hope we are there collectively to hear it Maybe the 500,000 are the unvaccinated !!! But that would be a conspiracy theory ? Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way…… Peace not War. |
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(OP) User ID: 80128617 United Kingdom 03/15/2021 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some history for you. [link to thisistrue.com (secure)] Fab - thanks Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way…… Peace not War. |
ParamedicUK
(OP) User ID: 80128617 United Kingdom 03/15/2021 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He has 2 valid points: Quoting: Jolly Jumper 1) Vaccination forces the virus to mutate much faster than usual to survive. 2) Vaccination develops specific immune response to that original Wuhan-virus, but to a mutated virus NOT, there we need unspecific (natural) response, which is not given, since the specific antibodies suppress or displace the unspecific, i.e our immune system is reprogrammed irreversible and out of natural balance. 1+) 2) together will lead to a catastrophe, acording to Geert Vanden Bossche. That’s about it - complete catastrophe ? Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way…… Peace not War. |
ParamedicUK
(OP) User ID: 80128617 United Kingdom 03/15/2021 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.bbc.co.uk (secure)] Yippee - drip drip drip.... UK experts say there will be a big increase in the number of people being offered Covid vaccinations in the coming days. The number of shots given is expected to top 4 million this week, nearly double what has been achieved per week recently, NHS sources say. It should mean all over 50s will have been given at least one dose by the end of the month. That would put the NHS rollout two weeks ahead of schedule. The increase has been made possible by a large shipment of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine from the Serum Institute in India, which has arrived and passed safety checks. - great imported vaccines from India! Last Edited by ParamedicUK on 03/15/2021 03:32 PM Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way…… Peace not War. |
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User ID: 40488826 United States 03/15/2021 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.bbc.co.uk (secure)] Quoting: ParamedicUK Yippee - drip drip drip.... UK experts say there will be a big increase in the number of people being offered Covid vaccinations in the coming days. The number of shots given is expected to top 4 million this week, nearly double what has been achieved per week recently, NHS sources say. It should mean all over 50s will have been given at least one dose by the end of the month. That would put the NHS rollout two weeks ahead of schedule. The increase has been made possible by a large shipment of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine from the Serum Institute in India, which has arrived and passed safety checks. - great imported vaccines from India! I thought the AstraZeneca vaccine had been suspended/banned in 11+ countries now? ~*Ride the Wave*~ |
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User ID: 79682320 South Africa 03/15/2021 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Unlike the Pfizer vaccine, which leverages a still experimental mRNA technology, Sputnik V is a much more traditionally designed vaccine. It uses a harmless engineered adenovirus to help the immune system recognize the protein SARS-CoV-2 uses to infect cells. Adenovirus-based vaccines are not new, and have a well-established safety profile. However, because these innocuous adenoviruses are relatively common, questions have been raised over whether they are too familiar to many immune systems. Russia’s Sputnik V vaccine attempts to get around the adenovirus familiarity problem by utilizing two different engineered adenoviruses. Administered several weeks apart, the plan is that even if the immune system recognizes the adenovirus in the first shot, it shouldn’t be too familiar with the virus in the second." [link to newatlas.com (secure)] |
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User ID: 78151345 United States 03/15/2021 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is this the most important information so far in the Covid-19 pandemic? Open letter from Dr Gerry Vanden Bossche warning the world of pending doom following mass vaccination. In summary: Using a vaccine in the middle of a pandemic will cause variants to the point where vaccines won’t work at all. Also the artificial production of antibodies for a specific virus could weaken the normal response to other variants and other coronaviruses. Causing our natural immune system to fail causing severe illness against basic viruses. Please read..... https://twitter.com/_/status/1368232172872732675 More detail... https://twitter.com/_/status/1370801806419263488 Best to spend an hour with Dr.Sherry Tenpenny. Lastest report. RECENT DR. SHERRY TENPENNY INTERVIEW ON HOW THE COVID VACCINE WILL KILL YOU WITHIN A YEAR - PART 2 Dr. Judy Mikovits says 50 million will die in U.S. from COVID Vaccine - Dr. Sherry Tenpenny Agrees When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. jimi Believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see. I'm just a product of insufficient modality. Humans of Earth! I have come in peace. You need not fear me. I mean you no harm. However, it may be important to know that most of you will not survive the next 24 hours. And those of you who do survive will be enslaved and experimented on. You should in no way take any of this personally — it's just business! |
ParamedicUK
(OP) User ID: 80128617 United Kingdom 03/15/2021 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who unpinned it?? Thought this was quite important right now ?? Last Edited by ParamedicUK on 03/15/2021 04:08 PM Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way…… Peace not War. |
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