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Retired Counterintelligence Agent...Ask me anything.

 
TN_Dan  (OP)

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what is the point of having co intel at all when I got this legally for free and it showed me how it was capable of doing everything anyone here has ever feared automatically only calling the monitor for alarms in the network.

they are doing news articles speculating about something that isn't even classified, apparently nobody even expects they need to bother.

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 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


Thanks for sharing that.

I think people are confused as to the role of counterintelligence in the field.

Listening to the word on the street, human intelligence gathering, physical surveillance, conducting infiltration operations, enacting physical security measures and countermeasures are all functions that no computer can perform.

Likewise, we are not oracles of information either. We're basically detectives. We gather, analyze, and disseminate information in real time as we observe and interact with subjects in hostile environments.

When we aren't deployed, we assist with background and criminal investigations at home.

With all that being said, the amount of open source intelligence available on the internet is downright scary. I've touched on it a few times in this thread and gave a few examples of the type of information that is freely available to anyone. Not many people know where to look for it.

If it weren't for the gatekeepers at Google and a handful of other tech conglomerates, all of this would be common knowledge.
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"""I think what we are learning is that being a Counterintelligence Agent is kind of boring and they don't know much better than you and I about much of anything except what is immediately right in front of them at any given time.

The complexities and stuff outside of their focus, well...there's really not much here. It was a good read and the takeaway is worth the time, but the lesson is lower your expectations when it comes to who knows what, NOT "Wow, look at all this intel!"""



I've been waiting for this very response.
The nail has been hit on the head.
There is a mystique surrounding the title of the job thanks to hollywood sensationalizing what we do.
We're just detectives that get right in the middle of the shit on occasion.

Thanks for posting this.

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Do you get ALL of you expenses reimbursed?
Would you like to wear your badge on the outside?
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Its been asked a couple of times..

But I'll ask it again...

Why haven't we seen any movement from the PATRIOTS in the military with regard to the grifter class which seems to have infested the political elite of both major parties?

Given that the political parties aren't able/willing to police themselves, it naturally falls to the only remaining significant power remaining in government...the military to make some noise.

One would have thought that military leaders would have made more of a stink when the anointed and yet likely ineligible Mr. Obama was "elected"
 Quoting: Asymptote



You assume there are any patriots left in the military.
Clinton started this mess when he took the soldiers weapons and implemented "Don't ask. Don't tell".
That's where the infiltration of the ranks started.
How many career flag officers were purged and replaced under Obama?
What major policies were changed at TRADOC around the same time?
How many more slipped in under those relaxed standards and are still there 13 years later as senior NCO'S and commissioned officers who should have never been allowed to serve in the first place?

The writing has been on the wall for a while.
A full blown communist wearing a Che Guevara t-shirt under his uniform managed to graduate from West Point.

Nobody is coming to save us.

The only way out of this is to starve the beast. Become self sufficient and refuse to participate in a corrupt system.

How did Gandhi get rid of the British?

He convinced people to stop buying their shit.
 Quoting: TN_Dan


hold on there.

you make a good point and i happen to be in favor of Satya Graha

but wasnt Gandhi MI6?

i have seen the pictures around here somewhere.

makes me think we have alot more in common with India then most realize: The Brittish let us both think we are free.



great thread btw i just got here so i hope you are still around to comment on this :)
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Unfortunately, he's one of the few historical examples of how organized non-compliance worked.
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OP. Gandhi was an example of no such thing. I suggest you read this and there is other information out there. Given your background let us know what you think about this paper.

[link to mileswmathis.com]

hf
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GREATEST GLP THREAD OF ALL TIME..UH!
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OP repeat question here—What are your thoughts on what happened in Libya and what is going on now in Syria?
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How many people in this thread are building a mashed potato mountain on their dining table?
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I think that movie, which came out when I was 11, was the reason I ended up in Uniform. I loved they alluded to secrets and serious government agencies working to cover things up. I wanted to know.
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Do you get ALL of you expenses reimbursed?
Would you like to wear your badge on the outside?
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No. I was occasionally provided with a vehicle from the motor pool, my airfare was provided through the travel office, and I had a credit card for verifiable expenses when working stateside.

My badge was returned when I was seperated and the Army does not provide retired badges.
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OP repeat question here—What are your thoughts on what happened in Libya and what is going on now in Syria?
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Libya was a color revolution operation. Members of our own state department have openly bragged about it.

Syria is a cluster f***. Same destabilization efforts at play.
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You assume there are any patriots left in the military.
Clinton started this mess when he took the soldiers weapons and implemented "Don't ask. Don't tell".
That's where the infiltration of the ranks started.
How many career flag officers were purged and replaced under Obama?
What major policies were changed at TRADOC around the same time?
How many more slipped in under those relaxed standards and are still there 13 years later as senior NCO'S and commissioned officers who should have never been allowed to serve in the first place?

The writing has been on the wall for a while.
A full blown communist wearing a Che Guevara t-shirt under his uniform managed to graduate from West Point.

Nobody is coming to save us.

The only way out of this is to starve the beast. Become self sufficient and refuse to participate in a corrupt system.

How did Gandhi get rid of the British?

He convinced people to stop buying their shit.
 Quoting: TN_Dan


hold on there.

you make a good point and i happen to be in favor of Satya Graha

but wasnt Gandhi MI6?

i have seen the pictures around here somewhere.

makes me think we have alot more in common with India then most realize: The Brittish let us both think we are free.



great thread btw i just got here so i hope you are still around to comment on this :)
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Unfortunately, he's one of the few historical examples of how organized non-compliance worked.
 Quoting: TN_Dan



OP. Gandhi was an example of no such thing. I suggest you read this and there is other information out there. Given your background let us know what you think about this paper.

[link to mileswmathis.com]

hf
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I've clicked that link 4 times since you originally posted it. Nothing happens.
When I go to his page, I can't find the paper you're trying to link and I cant afford to buy a $900 pencil drawing.
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How many people in this thread are building a mashed potato mountain on their dining table?
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YOU MEAN THE INSTANT KIND...

OR

REAL HOME-MADE MASHED POTATOES...?

UH
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OP repeat question here—What are your thoughts on what happened in Libya and what is going on now in Syria?
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Libya was a color revolution operation. Members of our own state department have openly bragged about it.

Syria is a cluster f***. Same destabilization efforts at play.
 Quoting: TN_Dan


Yes..

It grows hotter by the hour..

Biden just said some bad shit..

Again..

Requested No Fly Zone already..

He's ready to send ya fellas..
mouse..
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OP repeat question here—What are your thoughts on what happened in Libya and what is going on now in Syria?
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Libya was a color revolution operation. Members of our own state department have openly bragged about it.

Syria is a cluster f***. Same destabilization efforts at play.
 Quoting: TN_Dan


Thanks. Thought as much. With Libya it was interesting to me that domestic news coverage stopped once Qaddafi was gone. Never covered it again. And Americans never asked any questions.

MSM never mentioned that the president that the U.S supported—who took over after Qaddafi—immediately implemented sharia law. So much for “democracy” and “freedom” for the Libyans. They lived far better under Qaddafi. And that’s the goaL for Syria.

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Good morning OP. One thing that has been bothering me is civilian recruitment. Awhile back someone told me that they had been basically tapped-in, and I advised them to disengage and forget about it. I told them that the only way to legitimately get in was through the "front door", as-in apply on the website(s) and follow the regular on-boarding process.

I still think that I gave that person good advice because how would they really know who they were working for if they did not go through regular channels? If someone is approached like that what should they do?
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Good morning OP. One thing that has been bothering me is civilian recruitment. Awhile back someone told me that they had been basically tapped-in, and I advised them to disengage and forget about it. I told them that the only way to legitimately get in was through the "front door", as-in apply on the website(s) and follow the regular on-boarding process.

I still think that I gave that person good advice because how would they really know who they were working for if they did not go through regular channels? If someone is approached like that what should they do?
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I've clicked that link 4 times since you originally posted it. Nothing happens.

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A PDF opens directly for me, the one about Gandhi.

Do you have a popup blocker or something? Or maybe no PDF viewer installed on your browser?

It's worth a read.
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OP repeat question here—What are your thoughts on what happened in Libya and what is going on now in Syria?
 Quoting: telling it straight


Libya was a color revolution operation. Members of our own state department have openly bragged about it.

Syria is a cluster f***. Same destabilization efforts at play.
 Quoting: TN_Dan


Thanks. Thought as much. With Libya it was interesting to me that domestic news coverage stopped once Qaddafi was gone. Never covered it again. And Americans never asked any questions.

MSM never mentioned that the president that the U.S supported—who took over after Qaddafi—immediately implemented sharia law. So much for “democracy” and “freedom” for the Libyans. They lived far better under Qaddafi. And that’s the goaL for Syria.
 Quoting: telling it straight


Look at pictures of cities in Africa and the Middle East in the 60s and early 70s...clean, modern, and on the rise. The populations were educated and diverse. Their ideas were progressive (not in the ‘dirty Liberal sense) and forward-facing.

Fast forward to the present, and most of these places are dirty, ruined hell holes poisoned with extremism, deeply entrenched corruption, and thinking that is reminiscent of the Dark Ages.

This was no accident.
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Fast forward to the present, and most of these places are dirty, ruined hell holes poisoned with extremism, deeply entrenched corruption, and thinking that is reminiscent of the Dark Ages.

This was no accident.
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They really perfected this technique in India and then brought it to the rest of the world.
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The main thing I got out of this thread so far, is that people with far greater intel gathering skills than me have no clue WTF is going on lately either. That warmed my heart a little!

Two questions:

1.
The military goes through a lot of trouble recruiting "the best of the best". High intelligence, impeccable health, great physical strength, diverse talents and skills, psychic abilities. If you got it, they want you!
And then when they get you, they pump you full of poisons and generally abuse you in all kinds of ways to destroy you - mind, body, and soul.
Why?
This never made sense to me. What's the point in gathering exceptional people, only to destroy them, physically and psychologically?

2.
The only real reason I see to have any hope something good might be happening, is a couple of spec ops guys posting at t_gram. They don't really reveal anything secret (much like yourself!), and they seem legit to me. The only thing they tell us, is that lots of covert "swamp draining" operations are going on worldwide. A secret war is being fought.
Anyway, what do you think about this possibility? Meaning, the possibility that things are actually going on behind the scenes, and we might not be totally screwed just yet?
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OP repeat question here—What are your thoughts on what happened in Libya and what is going on now in Syria?
 Quoting: telling it straight


Libya was a color revolution operation. Members of our own state department have openly bragged about it.

Syria is a cluster f***. Same destabilization efforts at play.
 Quoting: TN_Dan


Thanks. Thought as much. With Libya it was interesting to me that domestic news coverage stopped once Qaddafi was gone. Never covered it again. And Americans never asked any questions.

MSM never mentioned that the president that the U.S supported—who took over after Qaddafi—immediately implemented sharia law. So much for “democracy” and “freedom” for the Libyans. They lived far better under Qaddafi. And that’s the goaL for Syria.
 Quoting: telling it straight


Look at pictures of cities in Africa and the Middle East in the 60s and early 70s...clean, modern, and on the rise. The populations were educated and diverse. Their ideas were progressive (not in the ‘dirty Liberal sense) and forward-facing.

Fast forward to the present, and most of these places are dirty, ruined hell holes poisoned with extremism, deeply entrenched corruption, and thinking that is reminiscent of the Dark Ages.

This was no accident.
 Quoting: Larphillips


Same thing with comparing many cities in the U.S. from the way they were in the 60’s and 70’s and the way they are now.
Disheartening.
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This never made sense to me. What's the point in gathering exceptional people, only to destroy them, physically and psychologically?


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Ego and Vanity control useful people.
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hold on there.

you make a good point and i happen to be in favor of Satya Graha

but wasnt Gandhi MI6?

i have seen the pictures around here somewhere.

makes me think we have alot more in common with India then most realize: The Brittish let us both think we are free.



great thread btw i just got here so i hope you are still around to comment on this :)
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Unfortunately, he's one of the few historical examples of how organized non-compliance worked.
 Quoting: TN_Dan



OP. Gandhi was an example of no such thing. I suggest you read this and there is other information out there. Given your background let us know what you think about this paper.

[link to mileswmathis.com]

hf
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I've clicked that link 4 times since you originally posted it. Nothing happens.
When I go to his page, I can't find the paper you're trying to link and I cant afford to buy a $900 pencil drawing.
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Hmm that is weird because when I click it on it, it goes straight to the paper. maybe they don’t want to many people reading it so they mess with the link. google “Miles Mathis + Gandhi” and it should should come up. Or google Miles Mathis + Was the Fakir a Faker. Well worth your time
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GLP, Have you read the play, "Waiting For Godot?"

It's a very short & quick read. Seems so relevant to today where endless promises from "Q," thru the "White Hats'" revelations, via the seemingly more reliable and less money grubbing podcasters' (BCP) claim that slowly the swamp is being drained, arrests are being made, celebs are wearing ankle bracelets and/or special footwear due to accidents.

Comments?
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OP repeat question here—What are your thoughts on what happened in Libya and what is going on now in Syria?
 Quoting: telling it straight


Libya was a color revolution operation. Members of our own state department have openly bragged about it.

Syria is a cluster f***. Same destabilization efforts at play.
 Quoting: TN_Dan


Thanks. Thought as much. With Libya it was interesting to me that domestic news coverage stopped once Qaddafi was gone. Never covered it again. And Americans never asked any questions.

MSM never mentioned that the president that the U.S supported—who took over after Qaddafi—immediately implemented sharia law. So much for “democracy” and “freedom” for the Libyans. They lived far better under Qaddafi. And that’s the goaL for Syria.
 Quoting: telling it straight


That and the first thing they did once Qaddafi was gone was to establish a central bank.
Can't have a country nationalizing their oil and sharing profits with the people. It's bad for business.
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Unfortunately, he's one of the few historical examples of how organized non-compliance worked.
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OP. Gandhi was an example of no such thing. I suggest you read this and there is other information out there. Given your background let us know what you think about this paper.

[link to mileswmathis.com]

hf
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I've clicked that link 4 times since you originally posted it. Nothing happens.
When I go to his page, I can't find the paper you're trying to link and I cant afford to buy a $900 pencil drawing.
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Hmm that is weird because when I click it on it, it goes straight to the paper. maybe they don’t want to many people reading it so they mess with the link. google “Miles Mathis + Gandhi” and it should should come up. Or google Miles Mathis + Was the Fakir a Faker. Well worth your time
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Will do. Thanks.
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[link to www.newindianexpress.com (secure)]

Now we know Mahatma Gandhi was a fraud

The ultra patriots have condemned Jawaharlal Nehru as anti-Indian. Gandhi is on their hit list but the public adoration he commands makes them cautious.

I don't agree with everything in this article. Yes the author calls Trump, "Donald Duck." Yet he still admires his insights re Gandhi et al.

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The main thing I got out of this thread so far, is that people with far greater intel gathering skills than me have no clue WTF is going on lately either. That warmed my heart a little!

Two questions:

1.
The military goes through a lot of trouble recruiting "the best of the best". High intelligence, impeccable health, great physical strength, diverse talents and skills, psychic abilities. If you got it, they want you!
And then when they get you, they pump you full of poisons and generally abuse you in all kinds of ways to destroy you - mind, body, and soul.
Why?
This never made sense to me. What's the point in gathering exceptional people, only to destroy them, physically and psychologically?

2.
The only real reason I see to have any hope something good might be happening, is a couple of spec ops guys posting at t_gram. They don't really reveal anything secret (much like yourself!), and they seem legit to me. The only thing they tell us, is that lots of covert "swamp draining" operations are going on worldwide. A secret war is being fought.
Anyway, what do you think about this possibility? Meaning, the possibility that things are actually going on behind the scenes, and we might not be totally screwed just yet?
 Quoting: The Monk



1. TBTB would love nothing more than to corral those exceptional people into their service so they don't have to deal with them in an adversarial manner at a later time. There are two types of these people...Those who fit in with the agenda and those who don't. The ones that don't are the ones they attempt to destroy.

2. There has been a covert operation going on for over 60 years. I think everyone has heard about it by now regardless of if they know the depth And scope as of yet.
We'll never be "totally" screwed. That wouldn't be good for anyone involved.
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This was posted before the 2016 elections on the chans. How over the target was it in your opinion? If you don't have enough time to read it all, I'd suggest you at least read the last slide.
https://imgur.com/4caYXPQ

https://imgur.com/UnvI71B

https://imgur.com/RiSgL1E


https://imgur.com/Qld5t8T

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I can't comment on that other than to say it's a good read.
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OP repeat question here—What are your thoughts on what happened in Libya and what is going on now in Syria?
 Quoting: telling it straight


Libya was a color revolution operation. Members of our own state department have openly bragged about it.

Syria is a cluster f***. Same destabilization efforts at play.
 Quoting: TN_Dan


Thanks. Thought as much. With Libya it was interesting to me that domestic news coverage stopped once Qaddafi was gone. Never covered it again. And Americans never asked any questions.

MSM never mentioned that the president that the U.S supported—who took over after Qaddafi—immediately implemented sharia law. So much for “democracy” and “freedom” for the Libyans. They lived far better under Qaddafi. And that’s the goaL for Syria.
 Quoting: telling it straight


Look at pictures of cities in Africa and the Middle East in the 60s and early 70s...clean, modern, and on the rise. The populations were educated and diverse. Their ideas were progressive (not in the ‘dirty Liberal sense) and forward-facing.

Fast forward to the present, and most of these places are dirty, ruined hell holes poisoned with extremism, deeply entrenched corruption, and thinking that is reminiscent of the Dark Ages.

This was no accident.
 Quoting: Larphillips



Afghanistan, Iran, and Iraq were once amazing places that people wanted to visit.
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Certain countries are extremely resistant to having a World Bank. The number becomes fewer and fewer yearly.

Woe to those holdouts.





GLP