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Like seeing some one reverse their age about 30 years kinda weird glitch? We inside a zero point right now for sure.
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No, more like the black cat in the Matrix movies, something that repeats, but it was also something really out of place looking....not normal.


gaah....I don't want to take the words out of his mouth. I think he needs to explain it as he saw it. I mean, this reality glitch is even closely tied to his life, what he does for a living....an important part of his life, you see.

I just only recognized it for what it was, a reality glitch.

Harhar, I'm pretty sure he has no choice BUT to share about it now, since I've already let the cat out of the bag.
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Like seeing some one reverse their age about 30 years kinda weird glitch? We inside a zero point right now for sure.
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30 year loop

hope you marked the time and date...
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Like seeing some one reverse their age about 30 years kinda weird glitch? We inside a zero point right now for sure.
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I've been thinking about this since I've read it.

What has you to thinking we are currently inside zero point right now?


It's not that I believe or disbelieve you, I want to know what brought you to such the conclusion.


I mean, if what you're saying is true, then it brings another layer or confirmation to the message I received Oct. '19....that "time is short".

My guidance does not do dates or even timeframes with me. That this was said to me, it really surprised me. Even more was I surprised to find out GLPer Louis received the same message at the same time.

There was a brief follow up on that notice, because I started freaking out a bit about it - it was so unusual - according to my guidance, "No worries. All will be fine!"....heh, I have to add one of these onto that....flower

Heh, much of the time such is the optimism I get from my guidance, my expanded self.
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Like seeing some one reverse their age about 30 years kinda weird glitch? We inside a zero point right now for sure.
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30 year loop

hope you marked the time and date...
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I did, in a sense, mark it and I think I have more of a sense of what happened now looking backward....isn’t that always how it is-seeing out our black hole so to speak...
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YOU ARE IN THE MATRIX
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Like seeing some one reverse their age about 30 years kinda weird glitch? We inside a zero point right now for sure.
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30 year loop

hope you marked the time and date...
 Quoting: just a dude


I did, in a sense, mark it and I think I have more of a sense of what happened now looking backward....isn’t that always how it is-seeing out our black hole so to speak...
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Reverse engineering, of sorts.
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Thanks OP. Of all Donald Hoffman's talks, the following is probably the clearest and most concise explanation I have found:



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Like seeing some one reverse their age about 30 years kinda weird glitch? We inside a zero point right now for sure.
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No, more like the black cat in the Matrix movies, something that repeats, but it was also something really out of place looking....not normal.


gaah....I don't want to take the words out of his mouth. I think he needs to explain it as he saw it. I mean, this reality glitch is even closely tied to his life, what he does for a living....an important part of his life, you see.

I just only recognized it for what it was, a reality glitch.

Harhar, I'm pretty sure he has no choice BUT to share about it now, since I've already let the cat out of the bag.
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


You're so patient.. tounge

Okay, while I was driving around running my errands and on the phone with cosmicgypsy, I entered a rotary/roundabout/whatever-you-want-to-call-it and went down another road. At the beginning of that road from the roundabout there was a bright blue Ford Mustang in a driveway to the left, but it was parked in an odd way, perpendicular to the road, and the car was facing down the street.

Cg and I chatted along as I drove, and suddenly I had to interrupt her. As I got to the end of the street, there was another blue Mustang, parked in the same manner as the first one! I of course relayed the information to her and noted I was following a Subaru BRZ that was the same color blue as the two Mustangs.

:mindblownintux:
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check1 @ wikipedia DONALD D. HOFFMAN


check1 @ wikipedia MONISM


check1 @ wikipedia ADVAITA VEDANTA


CHECK1 HOFFMAN IS NOT SAYING WE LIVE IN A SIMULATION.


CHECK1 HOFFMAN IS SAYING OUR PERCEPTIONS ARE WRONG & WE ARE LOOKING FOR EASY ANSWERS (ICONS) THAT PAYOFF.



POKERGOTCHABUG

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bsmetercheck1 DONALD HOFFMAN IS NOT TALKING ABOUT "SIMULATION THEORY".



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Similar to this model but a lighter blue.

:burnout:

It was eerie, to say the least!
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glp effect
the interaction fallout - matrix glitches

hf
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Like seeing some one reverse their age about 30 years kinda weird glitch? We inside a zero point right now for sure.
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No, more like the black cat in the Matrix movies, something that repeats, but it was also something really out of place looking....not normal.


gaah....I don't want to take the words out of his mouth. I think he needs to explain it as he saw it. I mean, this reality glitch is even closely tied to his life, what he does for a living....an important part of his life, you see.

I just only recognized it for what it was, a reality glitch.

Harhar, I'm pretty sure he has no choice BUT to share about it now, since I've already let the cat out of the bag.
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You're so patient.. tounge

Okay, while I was driving around running my errands and on the phone with cosmicgypsy, I entered a rotary/roundabout/whatever-you-want-to-call-it and went down another road. At the beginning of that road from the roundabout there was a bright blue Ford Mustang in a driveway to the left, but it was parked in an odd way, perpendicular to the road, and the car was facing down the street.

Cg and I chatted along as I drove, and suddenly I had to interrupt her. As I got to the end of the street, there was another blue Mustang, parked in the same manner as the first one! I of course relayed the information to her and noted I was following a Subaru BRZ that was the same color blue as the two Mustangs.

mindblownintux
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It occurred to me later that blue is the color of communication. Just an interesting note.
You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller


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Aaaand now 10 different online color meaning quizzes later and I am returning to thread to remember what again?

This is my Monday

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Aaaand now 10 different online color meaning quizzes later and I am returning to thread to remember what again?

This is my Monday

Charlie
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chuckle....it's just something said about the throat chakra, whose color is blue.

Throat chakra equals communication. It's a rudimentary correlation.

So, what did you get out of the quizzes?....hf
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I got totally distracted in a good way though...apparently my favorite color is brown and various shades of brown. It had been a long while since I’d been thru the colors and meanings so it was fun to read up on it again.
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I got totally distracted in a good way though...apparently my favorite color is brown and various shades of brown. It had been a long while since I’d been thru the colors and meanings so it was fun to read up on it again.
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And about your comment about us being in zero point now, what has you to saying this?....I am very, very intrigued!


Please tell me, okay?....hf
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 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


You're so patient.. tounge

Okay, while I was driving around running my errands and on the phone with cosmicgypsy, I entered a rotary/roundabout/whatever-you-want-to-call-it and went down another road. At the beginning of that road from the roundabout there was a bright blue Ford Mustang in a driveway to the left, but it was parked in an odd way, perpendicular to the road, and the car was facing down the street.

Cg and I chatted along as I drove, and suddenly I had to interrupt her. As I got to the end of the street, there was another blue Mustang, parked in the same manner as the first one! I of course relayed the information to her and noted I was following a Subaru BRZ that was the same color blue as the two Mustangs.

mindblownintux
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It occurred to me later that blue is the color of communication. Just an interesting note.
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The color of communication... on what authority? Certainly not anything like tradition. Sure, you can make up anything you want, and promulgate it as truth.

Just in case I am mistaken... can you quote some source, or post a link?
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You're so patient.. tounge

Okay, while I was driving around running my errands and on the phone with cosmicgypsy, I entered a rotary/roundabout/whatever-you-want-to-call-it and went down another road. At the beginning of that road from the roundabout there was a bright blue Ford Mustang in a driveway to the left, but it was parked in an odd way, perpendicular to the road, and the car was facing down the street.

Cg and I chatted along as I drove, and suddenly I had to interrupt her. As I got to the end of the street, there was another blue Mustang, parked in the same manner as the first one! I of course relayed the information to her and noted I was following a Subaru BRZ that was the same color blue as the two Mustangs.

mindblownintux
 Quoting: CosmicFire



It occurred to me later that blue is the color of communication. Just an interesting note.
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy

The color of communication... on what authority? Certainly not anything like tradition. Sure, you can make up anything you want, and promulgate it as truth.

Just in case I am mistaken... can you quote some source, or post a link?
 Quoting: Adieuvat



Did you not see my follow up post to that?

I was speaking freely, not being in an expert mode....heh, I'm no expert.

And look, all you have to do is google the throat chakra, color and meaning. You'll get plenty of returns, okay?....why should I do your work. You're the one challenging me. You prove what I've said in this post is wrong.

You will find many sites saying the throat chakra is about communication, and the color of the chakra is blue.

It was just a passing thought about the purported reality glitch, eh?
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I got totally distracted in a good way though...apparently my favorite color is brown and various shades of brown. It had been a long while since I’d been thru the colors and meanings so it was fun to read up on it again.
 Quoting: 1412



And about your comment about us being in zero point now, what has you to saying this?....I am very, very intrigued!


Please tell me, okay?....hf
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Most telling is the increasing level of unstable people....with their heightened fight mode active-and absent of their access to their rational brain.
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I got totally distracted in a good way though...apparently my favorite color is brown and various shades of brown. It had been a long while since I’d been thru the colors and meanings so it was fun to read up on it again.
 Quoting: 1412



And about your comment about us being in zero point now, what has you to saying this?....I am very, very intrigued!


Please tell me, okay?....hf
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Most telling is the increasing level of unstable people....with their heightened fight mode active-and absent of their access to their rational brain.
 Quoting: 1412



Thank you!....hf


It's just you saying that got me to thinking about us being moved into this more difficult dimension right before the election.

I got very little input about THAT move from my expanded self, just that such the move was "Non-negotiable".

What I got, my figuring on my own, from such the (obnoxious) move happening was that we needed to be better prepared to transition....because there were/are still too many who think this reality can be fixed/are still too involved/have no ideas of leaving, and the singularity is going to come around and....well, because they're still too invested in this world, they'll not make it out.

It's just very exciting to me that we might finally be coming to "the head" of all of this. I have no ideations of staying in this mess.

The only thing is, what you're seeing as evidence of being in zero point, I've only seen as evidence of the separation of the wheat and chaff....they very well could be one in the same, ya know?....one could've triggered the other, or been like a trigger for another.

I just tried to question my expanded self....crickets. Guidance is being rather shut mouthed about all this, and I understand why.

It's because I won't learn if I'm just told. I'm okay with that.

I can say the learning I've gone through over the years is much more valuable, than would've been just the giving of information. I can look back on my nearing 30 year journey, and say that without reservation.

I, maybe even we, all of us, need to learn the hard way, so we don't get ourselves back in this type of BIG PICKLE again.
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more a gentle ease into a new way...fear and other things like that will dissipate...
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I got totally distracted in a good way though...apparently my favorite color is brown and various shades of brown. It had been a long while since I’d been thru the colors and meanings so it was fun to read up on it again.
 Quoting: 1412



And about your comment about us being in zero point now, what has you to saying this?....I am very, very intrigued!


Please tell me, okay?....hf
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Most telling is the increasing level of unstable people....with their heightened fight mode active-and absent of their access to their rational brain.
 Quoting: 1412



Thank you!....hf


It's just you saying that got me to thinking about us being moved into this more difficult dimension right before the election.

I got very little input about THAT move from my expanded self, just that such the move was "Non-negotiable".

What I got, my figuring on my own, from such the (obnoxious) move happening was that we needed to be better prepared to transition....because there were/are still too many who think this reality can be fixed/are still too involved/have no ideas of leaving, and the singularity is going to come around and....well, because they're still too invested in this world, they'll not make it out.

It's just very exciting to me that we might finally be coming to "the head" of all of this. I have no ideations of staying in this mess.

The only thing is, what you're seeing as evidence of being in zero point, I've only seen as evidence of the separation of the wheat and chaff....they very well could be one in the same, ya know?....one could've triggered the other, or been like a trigger for another.

I just tried to question my expanded self....crickets. Guidance is being rather shut mouthed about all this, and I understand why.

It's because I won't learn if I'm just told. I'm okay with that.

I can say the learning I've gone through over the years is much more valuable, than would've been just the giving of information. I can look back on my nearing 30 year journey, and say that without reservation.

I, maybe even we, all of us, need to learn the hard way, so we don't get ourselves back in this type of BIG PICKLE again.
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Thanks for sharing that Cosmic! That is exactly what I am sensing. We have to be shown that this reality will dissolve and those that cling to it will dissolve as well so that we do not cling to it but yearn to grow into a higher level consciousness reality.
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And about your comment about us being in zero point now, what has you to saying this?....I am very, very intrigued!


Please tell me, okay?....hf
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Most telling is the increasing level of unstable people....with their heightened fight mode active-and absent of their access to their rational brain.
 Quoting: 1412



Thank you!....hf


It's just you saying that got me to thinking about us being moved into this more difficult dimension right before the election.

I got very little input about THAT move from my expanded self, just that such the move was "Non-negotiable".

What I got, my figuring on my own, from such the (obnoxious) move happening was that we needed to be better prepared to transition....because there were/are still too many who think this reality can be fixed/are still too involved/have no ideas of leaving, and the singularity is going to come around and....well, because they're still too invested in this world, they'll not make it out.

It's just very exciting to me that we might finally be coming to "the head" of all of this. I have no ideations of staying in this mess.

The only thing is, what you're seeing as evidence of being in zero point, I've only seen as evidence of the separation of the wheat and chaff....they very well could be one in the same, ya know?....one could've triggered the other, or been like a trigger for another.

I just tried to question my expanded self....crickets. Guidance is being rather shut mouthed about all this, and I understand why.

It's because I won't learn if I'm just told. I'm okay with that.

I can say the learning I've gone through over the years is much more valuable, than would've been just the giving of information. I can look back on my nearing 30 year journey, and say that without reservation.

I, maybe even we, all of us, need to learn the hard way, so we don't get ourselves back in this type of BIG PICKLE again.
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Thanks for sharing that Cosmic! That is exactly what I am sensing. We have to be shown that this reality will dissolve and those that cling to it will dissolve as well so that we do not cling to it but yearn to grow into a higher level consciousness reality.
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Well, something I've considered since posting that, is that (also) there needs to be a "consensus" among Humanity, a breaking point wherein more of us are on board with moving on, than not.

This push into this (ahem) dimension was basically a kind of last ditch effort to effect that change....so to speak. I think there will be no last ditch effort, actually. Either we're ready, or we're not, but we won't be given up on.

The probability that we transition is there, we just need to stop thinking of the possibilities while we are here.

Which is a lot for me to say, considering I've been all about anything being possible. I've also felt very strongly about not giving up, and not giving in....although this kind of giving up is not giving in. It's us finally realizing, "No MORE!" It's actually to our benefit to give up now....gawd, I almost choke on writing that, it so goes against the grain of who I've been for years and years....but this is exactly where I'm at currently.

The shift into this dimension, where the godlessness abounds, has had me to thinking, "Now is the time, we can't fix this. Let's just move on now".

Even I had to come to the realization, but it wasn't hard. I am not for this world of people as we exist. At all. Too many Organic Portals fucking everything up....heh, perhaps maybe if they went, then we'd have a reality realm worth rebuilding.


It's nice for me that you told me this, that you've had the same sense. I don't often get confirmation on things like this, because they aren't ordinary, so I really appreciate it.


My heart to yours, lovey....hugshf
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Not dissimilar to a good bit of this:


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Not dissimilar to a good bit of this:


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Thank you for posting this....hf
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At this point the math is fake!
Math said a Bee can not fly but it does
this shows math is not right all the time.
Now if they made a TV like thing that they turn on and it shows on the TV that everything is not as we see it then maybe we can belive in this. but right now i just think
it is just what they belive and they made the math work for them just as math shows a bee can not fly. math can show anything but we all know math can lie.
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Since our reality is false and everything comes from consciousness here are two points to think about:

1) Your thoughts become things. When you think and project love you create positive messengers to help others. When you hate you create negative messengers to curse others.

2) You are where you think. When you dream of places your consciousness is there. When you think of the Creator, you are one with it and its' energy.

So, think positive thoughts. Don't think about all the evil and chaos all around you in this false reality. If you do, you are adding to the evil. Instead, stay focused on the Creator and its' love. Visualize the wonderful realities that are out there somewhere in the One universal consciousness. Project love to those around you with your thoughts. If enough of us think it, it will be so.
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Since our reality is false and everything comes from consciousness here are two points to think about:

1) Your thoughts become things. When you think and project love you create positive messengers to help others. When you hate you create negative messengers to curse others.

2) You are where you think. When you dream of places your consciousness is there. When you think of the Creator, you are one with it and its' energy.

So, think positive thoughts. Don't think about all the evil and chaos all around you in this false reality. If you do, you are adding to the evil. Instead, stay focused on the Creator and its' love. Visualize the wonderful realities that are out there somewhere in the One universal consciousness. Project love to those around you with your thoughts. If enough of us think it, it will be so.
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Thank you for that message. It's the last thing I'll read before going to sleep. I'll be falling asleep with a smile on my face.

Goodnight, youse guyses....hugs
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At this point the math is fake!
Math said a Bee can not fly but it does
this shows math is not right all the time.
Now if they made a TV like thing that they turn on and it shows on the TV that everything is not as we see it then maybe we can belive in this. but right now i just think
it is just what they belive and they made the math work for them just as math shows a bee can not fly. math can show anything but we all know math can lie.
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False!

That is an urban legend and is a lie!

Snope it out...

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