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WORLD ON FIRE! Sweden/Finland vote to join NATO, Turkey says no- P3260

 
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Footage from yesterday's Ukrainian shelling of Solokhi in Belgorod oblast. An 18-year-old local was killed, eight were wounded, 17 buildings were damaged, including the school.

They shell belgorod again yesterday?
 Quoting: Catalyst4Thought


They cluster bombs?
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Looked like it. Ukraine does like using them for things like this.
 Quoting: Catalyst4Thought


Though they were illegal.
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Neither Russia nor Ukraine signed the convention outlawing their use is my understanding. Don't quote me on that though.
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This guy is total bollocks. Russian gas is only 10% of Fin consumption and totally replaceable. And what he says about Finns joining Nazis. Finns joined Nazis to prevent Russia from attacking Finland AGAIN (after winter war) and then kicked Nazis out of country.
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LOL Are you saying the Fins kicked out Nazis? LOL you truly are brainwashed.

The Fins were cosy with the Nazis before the Winter War and that was the reason why the Winter War started so the Nazis would not use Finland as a staging ground to attack tye Soviet Union. The Soviets annexed Finnish land as a security buffer bordering (very close to) St Petersburg.

The Soviets made sure Finland stayed neutral by threatening to destroy Finland's statehood after what they participated in genocide against the Soviets by allowing Hitler to stage an attack on Russian cities through Finland.
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Support of Nazis was very low in Finland in 1930's and went to mud when Nazis attacked Chezchoslovakia. Soviets didn't know better and thought that Finns were friendly with Nazis and started winter war in order to protect Leningrad. You are right that Nazis used Fin grounds to attack Soviet and Finland also supported it in hope of revenge. Mannerheim himself didn't like Hitler and refused Nazi wish to take part in blockade of Leningrad. It was well known fact in Leningrad during blockade that it was safe to walk on southern side of street, because Finns didn't bomb from north.
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How "Great Finland" planned to seize Petrograd (Leningrad/St Petersburg)



"Mannerheim also put forward a project for the liquidation of Petrograd as the capital of Russia."

"However, the Finnish leadership did not abandon its plans to create a "Greater Finland", which became the main reason for three more Soviet-Finnish wars and brought Finland to the Nazi camp."


Source:

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Interesting article, thank you for that. Mannerheim and co were off their heads at the time. I've never liked the guy anyway.
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This guy is total bollocks. Russian gas is only 10% of Fin consumption and totally replaceable. And what he says about Finns joining Nazis. Finns joined Nazis to prevent Russia from attacking Finland AGAIN (after winter war) and then kicked Nazis out of country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82421316


10% of gas, 15% of fuels, and 10% of electricity.

Totally replaceable, FROM WHERE?

The rest of Europe is looking for that replacement as well? How much are Finns willing to pay for that replacement?

Norway only has so much to give, and it is running out.
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It will be expensive, yes. Electricity prices are expected to go up.
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Satan is only a NATO designation.

It's not called that in Russian.

Western ignorance shows yet again.
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I thought the wags, said it was a ukr attack.

I think what its doing is stopping people looking at the whole battlefield and seeing how far the UKR are being pushed hard back
I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

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NEW: Ukraine is making efforts to dislodge Russian troops from Snake Island in the Black Sea: senior U.S. defense official

Ukraine has launched Bayraktar drone attacks against the island in recent days, destroying Russian surface-to-air missiles and landing ships.


 Quoting: Catalyst4Thought


But but but UKR totally owned this island after the last attack.

But yet people still think UKR took the island
 Quoting: Roughwildfly


They were never trying to take it. It wasn't ukraines landing craft that got hit. That's the problem. Russia was still in control of it the entire time.

It was Rus boats and heli that got hit.
 Quoting: Catalyst4Thought


I'd heavily disagree on this one. If you look at the video you can see that the soldiers who got off the heli where lying down in defense positions. That would make sense only if they're in enemy territory.

Also the three boats that managed to leave went towards Odessa.

In my opinion it is clear that this was a Ukie attempt to take the island and have some nice propo before May 9th.
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Pay back for stealing the tanks.

Seems a little OTT to strike a tractor just in a field doing its work


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Seriously injured? I think he means seriously injured for a split second and then seriously ripped apart like the tires.
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Another wave of Israeli strikes reported in Syria, this time in port city of Latakia; multiple explosions and unconfirmed reports of fatalities
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VIEW OF THE TRENCHES AFTER RUSSIANS KILLED AND CHASED AWAY UKRAINIAN ARMY


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whats up with that camera?
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NEW: Ukraine is making efforts to dislodge Russian troops from Snake Island in the Black Sea: senior U.S. defense official

Ukraine has launched Bayraktar drone attacks against the island in recent days, destroying Russian surface-to-air missiles and landing ships.


 Quoting: Catalyst4Thought


But but but UKR totally owned this island after the last attack.

But yet people still think UKR took the island
 Quoting: Roughwildfly


They were never trying to take it. It wasn't ukraines landing craft that got hit. That's the problem. Russia was still in control of it the entire time.

It was Rus boats and heli that got hit.
 Quoting: Catalyst4Thought


I'd heavily disagree on this one. If you look at the video you can see that the soldiers who got off the heli where lying down in defense positions. That would make sense only if they're in enemy territory.

Also the three boats that managed to leave went towards Odessa.

In my opinion it is clear that this was a Ukie attempt to take the island and have some nice propo before May 9th.
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I agree here. The boats heading towards odessa after the attack is what sold it for me, no chane Russians would head that way after. I think theres some chance the russian landing craft was hit before the majority of this stuff as Russians left the island to goad the Ukrainians to make a move on it, but unsure.
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Everyone reading this thread on GLP needs to listen to this!!!!

Snake Island Explained by someone THERE in Ukraine!

GONZALO LIRA in UKRAINE:

THE TRUTH from a Jounalist in Ukraine RIGHT NOW!

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The above video is only 9 min long and is an accurate summery of the current Ukraine SITREP from someone who is right THERE right NOW

This is GONZALO LIRA, he is a journalist from Chile who is working and living in Kharkov Ukraine. He speaks and reads English, Ukrainian and Russian. He is right there and has contacts on BOTH sides of the conflict.

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This is the full version of intercepted communication of #Russian patrol boats struck by #BayraktarTB2 2/2




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of intercepted communication between #Russian patrol boats near Snake Island.



Satellite images before/after




Complete satellite photo after



Last I'm going to comment about this thing, if you guys want to discuss it have fun. This is mostly for the people who are undecided.

You can look over the satellite photos and see which story they support. All of this is why I don't buy the Russian version.

There's at least some kind of proof here. But I understand this is a conspiracy site so...
 Quoting: Catalyst4Thought


This reminds me of Collin Powell with his sattelite images of WMDs in Irak. Or the images from Bucha which supposedly showed corpses lying around for over 3 weeks.

As we all know, Ukies and the US always tell the truth, right?

No, friend. There is not "some kind of proof". Either there is proof or there is speculation. I think its the latter.

As said. Lying down after descending from a heli does not make sense in territory that your team controls. It makes sense only if you're on enemy territory.
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I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking
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NEW: Ukraine is making efforts to dislodge Russian troops from Snake Island in the Black Sea: senior U.S. defense official

Ukraine has launched Bayraktar drone attacks against the island in recent days, destroying Russian surface-to-air missiles and landing ships.


 Quoting: Catalyst4Thought


But but but UKR totally owned this island after the last attack.

But yet people still think UKR took the island
 Quoting: Roughwildfly


They were never trying to take it. It wasn't ukraines landing craft that got hit. That's the problem. Russia was still in control of it the entire time.

It was Rus boats and heli that got hit.
 Quoting: Catalyst4Thought


I'd heavily disagree on this one. If you look at the video you can see that the soldiers who got off the heli where lying down in defense positions. That would make sense only if they're in enemy territory.

Also the three boats that managed to leave went towards Odessa.

In my opinion it is clear that this was a Ukie attempt to take the island and have some nice propo before May 9th.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83045230


But is there any kind of proof of that? Other than an unnamed source I mean. The helicopter allegedly was a specop extraction group coming in to evac people from the island after the initial strikes on the boats, it was still an active combat zone. Obviously they took enemy fire whoever it was. Plus there's the identification of the helo as a type the Ukrainian's don't fly at all, they're only used by Russia.

Granted you can say RSOTM is an unnamed source as well but at least there's a LOT of stuff floating around independently of them that appears to support that version of events.

Individually it's all sketchy but taken together one thing supports the rest and so on.

So either the Ukrainian's (and some Russians) are telling the truth or they went through a lot of effort to forge and disseminate evidence for something they didn't have to announce in the first place. Plus the satellite photos are open source.

If there was truth to the Russian claim we should see some kind of proof from them as well but all I've seen is a lot of muddying the waters.
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This guy is total bollocks. Russian gas is only 10% of Fin consumption and totally replaceable. And what he says about Finns joining Nazis. Finns joined Nazis to prevent Russia from attacking Finland AGAIN (after winter war) and then kicked Nazis out of country.
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10% of gas, 15% of fuels, and 10% of electricity.

Totally replaceable, FROM WHERE?

The rest of Europe is looking for that replacement as well? How much are Finns willing to pay for that replacement?

Norway only has so much to give, and it is running out.
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I already posted it a few weeks ago.

Norway has gas to continue exporting at 2019 levels for 18 years, but prudence recommends that they stop exporting in 10 years.

Now, if the quantities of exported gas continue to increase, it is very likely that in 7 or 10 years it will have to buy gas from Russia (cheap) or the USA (super expensive).

Let's go, Norway's gas exports are bread for today and hunger for tomorrow, not to mention whether we enter a le of mini ice age or not.


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Russia must cut every traffic from west (EU) (MED) to east
land air sea

nothing will pass over russia or black sea

every western shipping atlantic mediterranean must be sunk

suez must be hit from tarsus base in syria

western trade must be stoped and this is the answer to the sanctions

putin has say it but no one listens

there cant be a world without russia

and dot forget the real reason for this war.. tzoros is wanted in russia by the russian law
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You should’ve paid your bills Donny.
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NOW - US House Majority Leader says "in a time of war” it is "unfortunate" to criticize Biden.
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Videos at the above Twitter feed.
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Why does it seem like the sedition act is about to make an appearance again?

This is all going somewhere extremely dangerous catalyst.
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Meanwhile: Lukashenka has already praised Ukrainian army, Ukrainian mobile groups tactics, says Belarusian armed forces should learn from that

Is that actually what he is saying here?
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This guy is total bollocks. Russian gas is only 10% of Fin consumption and totally replaceable. And what he says about Finns joining Nazis. Finns joined Nazis to prevent Russia from attacking Finland AGAIN (after winter war) and then kicked Nazis out of country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82421316


LOL Are you saying the Fins kicked out Nazis? LOL you truly are brainwashed.

The Fins were cosy with the Nazis before the Winter War and that was the reason why the Winter War started so the Nazis would not use Finland as a staging ground to attack tye Soviet Union. The Soviets annexed Finnish land as a security buffer bordering (very close to) St Petersburg.

The Soviets made sure Finland stayed neutral by threatening to destroy Finland's statehood after what they participated in genocide against the Soviets by allowing Hitler to stage an attack on Russian cities through Finland.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80594578


Support of Nazis was very low in Finland in 1930's and went to mud when Nazis attacked Chezchoslovakia. Soviets didn't know better and thought that Finns were friendly with Nazis and started winter war in order to protect Leningrad. You are right that Nazis used Fin grounds to attack Soviet and Finland also supported it in hope of revenge. Mannerheim himself didn't like Hitler and refused Nazi wish to take part in blockade of Leningrad. It was well known fact in Leningrad during blockade that it was safe to walk on southern side of street, because Finns didn't bomb from north.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82421316


That's some incredibly interesting revisionism there.

Too bad it has nothing to do with reality.

Let's take Finland's most famous hero simo hayha an unapologetic Nazi who fought in other people's ears for fun almost up until the day he died.
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 Quoting: Catalyst4Thought


Why does it seem like the sedition act is about to make an appearance again?

This is all going somewhere extremely dangerous catalyst.
 Quoting: roguetechie81


Well, do you remember Biden signed that E.O. about 5-7 months into his presidency (if even that long) that said basically anybody talking badly about his administration or the government in general, or repeating the "lie" that the Dems stole the election was perpetuating the spread of Russian disinformation and undermining the security of the United States?

It seemed odd at the time how being critical of his job performance was somehow Russian disinfo but now it makes sense.

Obviously now we have the ministry of truth being created under the umbrella of the department of Homeland secty which means there's going to be a punitive legal component to it at some point.

It will start with Russian disinformation and get even worse from there.
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This guy is total bollocks. Russian gas is only 10% of Fin consumption and totally replaceable. And what he says about Finns joining Nazis. Finns joined Nazis to prevent Russia from attacking Finland AGAIN (after winter war) and then kicked Nazis out of country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82421316


LOL Are you saying the Fins kicked out Nazis? LOL you truly are brainwashed.

The Fins were cosy with the Nazis before the Winter War and that was the reason why the Winter War started so the Nazis would not use Finland as a staging ground to attack tye Soviet Union. The Soviets annexed Finnish land as a security buffer bordering (very close to) St Petersburg.

The Soviets made sure Finland stayed neutral by threatening to destroy Finland's statehood after what they participated in genocide against the Soviets by allowing Hitler to stage an attack on Russian cities through Finland.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80594578


Support of Nazis was very low in Finland in 1930's and went to mud when Nazis attacked Chezchoslovakia. Soviets didn't know better and thought that Finns were friendly with Nazis and started winter war in order to protect Leningrad. You are right that Nazis used Fin grounds to attack Soviet and Finland also supported it in hope of revenge. Mannerheim himself didn't like Hitler and refused Nazi wish to take part in blockade of Leningrad. It was well known fact in Leningrad during blockade that it was safe to walk on southern side of street, because Finns didn't bomb from north.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82421316


That's some incredibly interesting revisionism there.

Too bad it has nothing to do with reality.

Let's take Finland's most famous hero simo hayha an unapologetic Nazi who fought in other people's ears for fun almost up until the day he died.
 Quoting: roguetechie81


You are right, there were lot of nazi sympathizers but mostly after Soviets attacked Finland first. Some even dreamed of conquering Russia with Nazis. It was forbidden history for long time, but in recent years here have been much talk about Finland's darker side during WW2. Simo Hayha is considered a hero and a legend by many Finns. It is because Finland's identity lays mostly in winter war (finns are tougher than russians) and winning gold medals in ice hockey world champions. Silly it is.
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Unique close combat footage: our military clears out a stronghold of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

A Ukrainian militant is trying to crawl deeper into the trench, but a grenade is thrown and then explodes right on his ass.



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