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WORLD ON FIRE! Sweden/Finland vote to join NATO, Turkey says no- P3260

 
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I didn't see this posted. I think we all saw this coming!
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Let me try it again.
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Do it. Then the world will know where we stand.
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Chiming in (as a lay person mind you when it comes to this topic)....the conventional wisdom has been that Russia needs frozen ground before rolling in his tanks. They don't want their tanks, trucks, foot soldiers etc. slowed down by mud. Looking at weather maps, Eastern Ukraine is finally below freezing now (warm winter) and looks to stay that way according the forecasts I'm seeing. My understanding is the Spring thaw usually happens in March. This makes me think the invasion (whatever it looks like) will likely happen soon, maybe days to a couple weeks perhaps. Or, on the other hand, it may not happen at all. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Russia just kept their camps positioned for another year. The thinking there could be that just the threat could make Ukraine and Nato eventually capitulate if they just give it enough time. Any different opinions out there?
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Everything I have read says, yes it is a factor to consider but it is not a determining factor. If they really wanted to move they would move.
 Quoting: Catalyst4Thought


Spot on C4T, ultimately its not a deciding factor it does create some issue in movement but its what engineers are for and they're tanks not thin wheeled wagons or horse back that the Germans took with them for Barbarossa, theyde also supported by helicopters and mechanised/motorised infantry that are able to mount dismounted operations.
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Modern tanks don't really give a shit about the kind of mud that bogged down Wehrmacht in WWII.
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Exactly that
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Well guys we are under 72 hours until this open ended nothing guaranteed letter to Russia. Russia has not said a God damn thing this week... all they e been doing is moving troops and calling up reserves. I hope it's shock and awe straight to Kiev. The US is literally getting directly involved now as well. Going to be the most interesting Friday on Glp we've had in awhile. I wonder if they're going to do it right then or wait, but the longer they wait the more chance they give Nato to supply Ukraine, the longer putin wait the more dangerous this becomes because if there are too many troops or weapons deployed against him he'll just say fuck it and nuke them. That is my opinion as of now.
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The silence is worrying... Friday will be an interesting day. Usually Russians don't announce military operations, so it could be that they only reply to the letter when military operations are already started.
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Well guys we are under 72 hours until this open ended nothing guaranteed letter to Russia. Russia has not said a God damn thing this week... all they e been doing is moving troops and calling up reserves. I hope it's shock and awe straight to Kiev. The US is literally getting directly involved now as well. Going to be the most interesting Friday on Glp we've had in awhile. I wonder if they're going to do it right then or wait, but the longer they wait the more chance they give Nato to supply Ukraine, the longer putin wait the more dangerous this becomes because if there are too many troops or weapons deployed against him he'll just say fuck it and nuke them. That is my opinion as of now.
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The silence is worrying... Friday will be an interesting day. Usually Russians don't announce military operations, so it could be that they only reply to the letter when military operations are already started.
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That's if they actually get a letter
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Lol. What a quote...
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Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said earlier today that depending on the content of this response, which he said is "expected this week," Russian officials will prepare "proposals for the president [Putin] regarding our next steps."
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Biden admin to send Russia written responses as soon as Wednesday

Updated 8:34 AM ET, Wed January 26, 2022

The Biden administration is set to send Russia a written response to concerns Moscow has publicly released and US proposals on a path forward as soon as Wednesday, according to administration officials, but the response is unlikely to characterize the likelihood of Ukraine joining NATO in the short term or show any room for negotiation on NATO's open door policy -- which is Russian President Vladimir Putin's central grievance.

"I think for a couple reasons that is not the kind of thing I would expect to see in any written response from the United States," State Department Spokesperson Ned Price said on Tuesday when asked if the US would be including a characterization of the likelihood or not of Ukraine joining NATO, which US President Joe Biden did during public remarks last week.

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Department Press Briefing – January 25, 2022

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Probably getting ready for sanctions. Anybody know if this is actually related at all?
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Hahahahahahaha...
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Calling up reservists?
Field hospitals?

Nope not there yet
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They've deployed dozens of field hospitals already and they have over 90% of their total land forces deployed with more still rolling in. Yes, we are there. They have everything in place they would need except air support.
 Quoting: Catalyst4Thought


Chiming in (as a lay person mind you when it comes to this topic)....the conventional wisdom has been that Russia needs frozen ground before rolling in his tanks. They don't want their tanks, trucks, foot soldiers etc. slowed down by mud. Looking at weather maps, Eastern Ukraine is finally below freezing now (warm winter) and looks to stay that way according the forecasts I'm seeing. My understanding is the Spring thaw usually happens in March. This makes me think the invasion (whatever it looks like) will likely happen soon, maybe days to a couple weeks perhaps. Or, on the other hand, it may not happen at all. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Russia just kept their camps positioned for another year. The thinking there could be that just the threat could make Ukraine and Nato eventually capitulate if they just give it enough time. Any different opinions out there?
 Quoting: scoobie doo


Everything I have read says, yes it is a factor to consider but it is not a determining factor. If they really wanted to move they would move.
 Quoting: Catalyst4Thought


The New Moon is Feb 1. That's the mid point of winter, also, and a pagan holiday. They aren't going to wait another year because this has to happen before the next elections. Biden knows he can't stay in power for long, so he has to get this started before Nov. So, considering this info, I'd say Feb 1. We shall see.

Astrologically, the New Moon of Feb 1 is conjunct Saturn, and square Uranus. Mercury goes direct on Feb 3. The ptb use astrology so I don't think they'd start something during Mercury retro. Also, on Feb 22 is the Pluto return for the US chart, so I really don't think they are going to wait for another year. This is the year of the fall of the empire, and trust me, Rothschild knows it and is using the energy to switch over to a new currency and to abandon the petro dollar.
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Ukraine is only creating just enough tensions for EU funds, they are not in the mood to go to war with Russia and Russia s not willing to fight their Ukrainian brothers. That is why the US 82nd Airborne will preemptively "invade" Kiev to provoke a Russian response.
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This whole situation gave me Doom blue balls
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Kiev flat out refuses to follow Minsk, undoubtedly at the urging of the the Obamunists and Soros/Omidyar groups, and has ignored it since signing it.

At this point, the Ukies have painted themselves into a propaganda corner. If they admit the rebels aren't "Russian Invaders", but actually rebel Ukrainians, it blows up 8 years of propo.
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It isn't....
But it is more than sufficient to trap or expel the 150,000 man Ukie Army from the breakaway provinces.
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It isn't....
But it is more than sufficient to trap or expel the 150,000 man Ukie Army from the breakaway provinces.
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But Boris Johnson said Russia is going to invade/capture Kiev?!
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I know it’s not fully plausible, but just as a thought experiment:
Ukraine has a corrupt Gov. And was hyping up the whole Russian invasion situation. What if instead of war, Russia will choose to support the Ukrainian government and promised wealth or even “autonomy” in exchange for loyalty to Moscow. in turn Ukraine gets military supplies and funding from NATO and other countries, then switches up and allows Russia to annex Ukraine without fighting a war.

Russia gets their territory and Ukraine gets money and equipment and no shots fired. Plus the whole conflict ends between them. Russia doesn’t have to topple the government and replace it w/ Kremlin supporting officials because they’ll just take advantage of the corrupt gov already in place.

Not only does Russia gain all the equipment and weapons supplied to Ukraine, they lose no people on either side. Nor for they destroy the infrastructure of Ukraine. Now NATO can’t use the illegal Invasion of Ukraine as an excuse for war if Ukraine allows it. So if NATO/USA tries to invade or take back Ukraine, they/we will be labeled as the aggressors. NATO in turn looks stupid for getting played and can’t make a move without accepting the role as the bad guy.

Why else has Russia not invaded yet? They’re allowing money and equipment to be sent to Ukraine which would make invasion much more difficult. Unless there’s a deeper purpose for the waiting and growing anticipation.

Thoughts?
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I know it’s not fully plausible, but just as a thought experiment:
Ukraine has a corrupt Gov. And was hyping up the whole Russian invasion situation. What if instead of war, Russia will choose to support the Ukrainian government and promised wealth or even “autonomy” in exchange for loyalty to Moscow. in turn Ukraine gets military supplies and funding from NATO and other countries, then switches up and allows Russia to annex Ukraine without fighting a war.

Russia gets their territory and Ukraine gets money and equipment and no shots fired. Plus the whole conflict ends between them. Russia doesn’t have to topple the government and replace it w/ Kremlin supporting officials because they’ll just take advantage of the corrupt gov already in place.

Not only does Russia gain all the equipment and weapons supplied to Ukraine, they lose no people on either side. Nor for they destroy the infrastructure of Ukraine. Now NATO can’t use the illegal Invasion of Ukraine as an excuse for war if Ukraine allows it. So if NATO/USA tries to invade or take back Ukraine, they/we will be labeled as the aggressors. NATO in turn looks stupid for getting played and can’t make a move without accepting the role as the bad guy.

Why else has Russia not invaded yet? They’re allowing money and equipment to be sent to Ukraine which would make invasion much more difficult. Unless there’s a deeper purpose for the waiting and growing anticipation.

Thoughts?
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Russia does not want Ukraine, too unstable.
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Just another fake fear porn from our overlords. Nukes are fake as fuck as well.
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