WORLD ON FIRE! Sweden/Finland vote to join NATO, Turkey says no- P3260

Nothing will happen.

I just read a big-shot Ukrainian diplomat saying that Ukrain still wants its people and lands returned. What lands? Crimea where no Ukrainians ever live? The place that voted better than 99% to leave because their native language was not to be recognized as an official language(by the new illegitimate government)? Perhaps the Russian people of the Donbas who have been slaughtered for years by the Ukrainian military?

I suddenly have a burning hatred for the Ukrainian government. I hope when this is all said and done the Russian mob gets hold of these murdering degenerates--every last one.

Obama after installing puppet nazi Ukrainian regime in 2014:

I bet that sack of shit is smiling while saying "I did that" while the world approaches unparalleled destruction.

I agree, I wouldn't be surprised if this is exactly what Biden wants. A chance to have "gravitas", a chance to not look like the weak, impotent fraud that he is.

I think it is blatantly clear that the global powers that be could care less if the world population is decimated by a conflict. We are finally at the point where MAD doesn't matter to these pricks.

However, Putin may simply be flexing because he knows how weak Biden really is...and how little backing he would get to pursue war.

If you think Ukrainian mud as strategy, then the timing will coincide (IF it happens) with however long the Russian planners think it will take to roll in and firmly establish a hold on territory, using the frozen ground to their advantage. Conversely, one they’re properly dug in, they USE that mud as a strategic defense against any NATO ground forces moving in. Timing in that is crucial, as you don’t want to dig in too early.

The U.S has handed over its official response to Russia's proposals on security guarantees, and Moscow has rejected the response as "unacceptable".

So while Russia's remaining Battalion Tactical Groups make their way to the Ukraine border, Putin is holding talks with military leaders with regards to the timing of the invasion.

Option 1: Launch a limited invasion to secure the southern corridor and create a land bridge to Crimea. As Ukraine responds, topple the regime in Kiev before the Beijing Olympics on Feb 4 and replace it with a puppet government that orders the Ukrainian army to stand down and let Russia occupy the south. The new government also signs a law giving full independence to Donbas and Crimea. Putin declares the military operation over and basks in a short, sharp victory.

Option 2: Launch a full-scale invasion to occupy all of Ukraine. The war drags on through and after the Olympics. China's leader Xi Jinping brushes it off as "Russia taking care of its own national security interests". The war drags on for about a year. There are many casualties but the end result is assured. Russian victory, but at a cost.

Option 3: Completely blindside NATO and use the forces positioned to annex Belarus. Ukraine is untouched, and the West is left scratching its head. Putin gives Lukashenko a powerful position as leader within the 'Union State'. Russia then occupies the strategic 'Suwalki Gap' between Poland and Lithuania, effectively severing the Baltic States from the rest of Europe with a Russian 'line of steel'.

Czech is in!

https://twitter.com/_/status/1486566321999400961

No, no, and no.

Option one solves nothing but adds propaganda munitions to the west.

Option two would be over in 2 weeks unless Nato ground forces move into Ukraine. In that case perhaps a month.

Option 3 would cause immediate war between Russia and the Nato alliance. While this would, at a minimum, be part of a Russian contingency plan (makes sense) as the main operation it solves nothing. If war does come the Baltic nations will be easily captured in time by Russia--it does not have to be the immediate objective.

I'm afraid any fighting will escalate to encompass all of central and western Europe. The only way to stop the Russians will be with tactical nukes--not a good move for humanities health, but one that Biden would love.

Nice. That will give one artillery battalion enough ammo for 10 days of moderate fighting.

Sort of academic, but still a bold move by the Czechs. If shit gets real, they have thrown down the gauntlet.

Option 3 basically happened about a week ago.

Option 3 basically happened about a week ago.

How would you all see it playing out for a full on nuclear exchange to start? Would battlefield nuke use basically open that door?

nuke isreal