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I don't do the Tolkien story, I do look for what parts are taken from their ancient folklore. The England folklore was where one of the kings' family married an Elves' bride, the Elves' being the same size as mankind. Long lives the Elves' lived, with magic or something. Pretty sure they were like man because they had children.

Now the ancient folklore of the Germanic people before Christians were heard of was the dragons. They took care of the dragons eggs and the dragons helped them. The male dragons did not fly only the females dragons did, they made the dragons leave when the monks and others told them the dragons were of the devil. Places like Sweden said they were just dumb, of course them believing in trolls were OK it seems, they made deals with the Trolls to get gold from the mountains. In Ireland in ancient times it was the Merman's and Mermen, one of the men of the family or a woman married in the line of Mermen. This being at times they turn back into the fishtail people and go back to the Sea, maybe this was really people coming from the sea with mermaids on their boats? Every country it seems to have little people, these are not Elves. They are the forests' little people, sometimes called brownies. Dwarfs are one of the names of these people from legends. They could disappear and had a temper if you cheated them, they helped people pick crops and do work, the if they lost their temper you might lose everything you had.

Makes one wonder where they came up with these legends or what was going on back then.

I think Tolkien used part of these legends in his books. He also was using the something else which was the power struggle going on back then and now, during his life and now. The more thing change the more they stay the same.
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Me thinks Fossy likey the bad dragons

ohyeah
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I like Paarthunax. ohyeah And Ohdaviing. lol
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I always like d Durnehviir... But then again I am partial to the living dead. A dracoliche is notto be trifled with. To have the decaying body of an undead dragon, and the centuries of knowledge from studying the dark arts, can make for a formidable foe, as well as preternatural ally. For how can the dead be destroyed? Silver that corruption cannot touch, and purifying flame. But evil always finds a way, and it all starts in the body of a carrion wyrm.

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I forgot about him..... Dracoliche... did you make that up? I like it! Never heard Lich used that way before. I may use it in my novel. :)
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I think its from D&D, and Everquest, which was essentially D&D Online.

Warhammer Fantasy is my go to, & they pull a lot of their content from the multiverse. Blizzard originally wanted to make a Gamesworkshop Warhammer game, but instead created their own version which became known as Warcraft, even though Warhammer tabletop has been around since the 80s.

hf

Robert E Howard has written some excellent stories, and the narrators of the audiobooks are very much on point with the books. This one is my first, and favorite



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The above book has also inspired some musical composers, Graham Plowman being another one of my first, and favorites. The translation "Nameless Cults" comes directly from The Black Stone, in describing those unspeakable gatherings of dark hearted humans lost in the ways of ritual blasphemies...



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Blackwood is another legend in horror, and his story "Ancient Sorceries" was simply magnificent!

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I don't do the Tolkien story, I do look for what parts are taken from their ancient folklore. The England folklore was where one of the kings' family married an Elves' bride, the Elves' being the same size as mankind. Long lives the Elves' lived, with magic or something. Pretty sure they were like man because they had children.

Now the ancient folklore of the Germanic people before Christians were heard of was the dragons. They took care of the dragons eggs and the dragons helped them. The male dragons did not fly only the females dragons did, they made the dragons leave when the monks and others told them the dragons were of the devil. Places like Sweden said they were just dumb, of course them believing in trolls were OK it seems, they made deals with the Trolls to get gold from the mountains. In Ireland in ancient times it was the Merman's and Mermen, one of the men of the family or a woman married in the line of Mermen. This being at times they turn back into the fishtail people and go back to the Sea, maybe this was really people coming from the sea with mermaids on their boats? Every country it seems to have little people, these are not Elves. They are the forests' little people, sometimes called brownies. Dwarfs are one of the names of these people from legends. They could disappear and had a temper if you cheated them, they helped people pick crops and do work, the if they lost their temper you might lose everything you had.

Makes one wonder where they came up with these legends or what was going on back then.

I think Tolkien used part of these legends in his books. He also was using the something else which was the power struggle going on back then and now, during his life and now. The more thing change the more they stay the same.
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You are correct Sir- if you watch the movie it explains where he drew his inspiration from.
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If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell.
“It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius
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LOTR gave me hope during some of the darkest parts of my life. Tolkien's legacy is more than a tale but a philosophy of living heroicly. It has definitely helped me to discern good from evil in this world and find hope where none is to be found.
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LOTR gave me hope during some of the darkest parts of my life. Tolkien's legacy is more than a tale but a philosophy of living heroicly. It has definitely helped me to discern good from evil in this world and find hope where none is to be found.
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Amen....
If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell.
“It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius
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LOTR gave me hope during some of the darkest parts of my life. Tolkien's legacy is more than a tale but a philosophy of living heroicly. It has definitely helped me to discern good from evil in this world and find hope where none is to be found.
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You speak what my heart and mind also knows. Tolkien is in our hearts! We are kindred now. hugs
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UH...I THINK THAT 'YOU PEOPLE' WOULD ENJOY ROGER ZELZANY'S NINE PRINCES IN AMBER SERIES!...'AMBER SERIES'...LATE 70'S EARLY 80
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LOTR gave me hope during some of the darkest parts of my life. Tolkien's legacy is more than a tale but a philosophy of living heroicly. It has definitely helped me to discern good from evil in this world and find hope where none is to be found.
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When my true love passed. His family gave me all theTolkien things I had given him over the decades. Oh lands it was hard looking at all the things that had been bought in profound love. When my house is complete and I can start sorting it out, it’s going all over! Lol! I think it’ll be easier than seeing it all together in a box.
“ and long ago, they passed away into the forest singing sorrow less. hf
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UH...I THINK THAT 'YOU PEOPLE' WOULD ENJOY ROGER ZELZANY'S NINE PRINCES IN AMBER SERIES!...'AMBER SERIES'...LATE 70'S EARLY 80
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Thanks for the recommendation darling!!!
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Once I heard about that Sir Tolkien had plans for Lotr sequel books.Not Silmarillion but something new
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UH...I THINK THAT 'YOU PEOPLE' WOULD ENJOY ROGER ZELZANY'S NINE PRINCES IN AMBER SERIES!...'AMBER SERIES'...LATE 70'S EARLY 80
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Thanks for the recommendation darling!!!
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SEE THAT MOVIE..UH.
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UH...I THINK THAT 'YOU PEOPLE' WOULD ENJOY ROGER ZELZANY'S NINE PRINCES IN AMBER SERIES!...'AMBER SERIES'...LATE 70'S EARLY 80
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Thanks for the recommendation darling!!!
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SEE THAT MOVIE..UH.
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YOU KNOW I HAVE BEEN WORKING BUT I’VE NOT FORGOTTEN!!!! I WILL AND YOU’LL BE THE FIRST TO KNOW... kiss
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MAYBE TONIGHT. I’M KINDA STUCK ATM. ANYWAY. LOL
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LOTR gave me hope during some of the darkest parts of my life. Tolkien's legacy is more than a tale but a philosophy of living heroicly. It has definitely helped me to discern good from evil in this world and find hope where none is to be found.
 Quoting: FlashBuzzkill


When my true love passed. His family gave me all theTolkien things I had given him over the decades. Oh lands it was hard looking at all the things that had been bought in profound love. When my house is complete and I can start sorting it out, it’s going all over! Lol! I think it’ll be easier than seeing it all together in a box.
“ and long ago, they passed away into the forest singing sorrow less. hf
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Then I met Ghostly Screams..... It's all staying in the box. The sorrowful heart is now healed.
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Once I heard about that Sir Tolkien had plans for Lotr sequel books.Not Silmarillion but something new
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That would have been cool. Maybe a trip to Valinor to see how the ringbearers are doing or whatever happened with Arwen.

So many possibilities.
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That is beautiful. Classic instrumental LP that is like an old friend:

Bo Hansson - Music Inspired by The Lord of the Rings



Side one

"Leaving Shire" (Första vandringen)
"The Old Forest & Tom Bombadil" (Den gamla skogen / Tom Bombadil)
"Fog on the Barrow-Downs" (I Skuggornas rike)
"The Black Riders & Flight to the Ford" (De svarta ryttarna / Flykten till vadstället)
"At the House of Elrond & The Ring Goes South" (I Elronds hus / Ringen vandrar söderut)

Side two

"A Journey in the Dark" (En vandring i mörker)
"Lothlórien"
"Shadowfax" (Skuggfaxe)
"The Horns of Rohan & The Battle of the Pelennor Fields" (Rohans horn / Slaget på Pelennors slätter)
"Dreams in the House of Healing" (Drömmar i Läkandets hus)
"Homeward Bound & The Scouring of the Shire" (Hemfärden / Fylke rensas)
"The Grey Havens" (De grå hamnarna)





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