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Legislation introduced to recognize gold, silver as U.S. currency

 
Don Draper from Nantucket
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- Gold and silver are well established as stores of wealth, but the precious metals face complex challenges when it comes to being recognized as a valid currency. However, one U.S. politician is hoping to change that with new legislation.

Tuesday, U.S. Representative Alex Mooney (R-WV) introduced the Monetary Metals Tax Neutrality Act (H.R. 2284) bill in the House. According to the bill, the proposed legislation would remove capital gains, losses, or any other type of federal income calculation on gold and silver bars and coins. The legislation would effectively recognize gold and silver as forms of currency.

Under current laws, the Internal Revenue Service regards gold and silver as capital assets. It classifies them as "collectibles," which means they are subject to capital gains taxes. After selling their bullion, gold investors could potentially be taxed at the maximum collectible capital gains rate of 28%. The tax only applies when investors sell their gold or silver.

"My view, which is backed up by language in the U.S. Constitution, is that gold and silver coins are money and are legal tender," Rep. Mooney said in a press release. "If they're indeed U.S. money, it seems there should be no taxes on them at all. So, why are we taxing these coins as collectibles?"


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Makes too much sense, so you know the dems won't allow it!
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Makes too much sense, so you know the dems won't allow it!
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Yeah that's what I'm thinking as well...or they'll just call it racist cuz he mentioned the Constitution!
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Interesting gonna have to see if this one passes the senate..
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You mean the Coinage Act of 1792

That legislation?

It's already in there...
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Taxation is theft.
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Makes too much sense, so you know the dems won't allow it!
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was gonna say the same

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Why would anyone pay taxes in the first place. Demand lawful money, you at this point are using federal reserve notes voluntarily and therefore they are taxable. quit volunteering.

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Makes too much sense, so you know the dems won't allow it!
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Yeah that's what I'm thinking as well...or they'll just call it racist cuz he mentioned the Constitution!
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There is no "Gold Equity"....If poor people (Blacks) don't have it, neither should you!
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Banks need to be able to deal with precious metals.
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Contact your Reps and have them support Monetary Metals Tax Neutrality Act (H.R. 2284) bill.

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Read:
“Federal reserve notes, to be issued at the discretion of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System for the purpose of making advances to Federal reserve banks through the Federal reserve agents as hereinafter set forth and for no other purpose, are authorized. The said notes shall be obligations of the United States and shall be receivable by all national and member banks and Federal reserve banks and for all taxes, customs, and other public dues. They shall be redeemed in lawful money on demand at the Treasury Department of the United States, in the city of Washington, District of Columbia, or at any Federal Reserve bank. “
(emphasis mine)
This proves that “Lawful Money” and “Legal Tender” are not the same.
All that is required is a restricted endorsement on the back of any check to the effect of:
Redeemed in Lawful money
Pursuant to Title 12 USC §411
True name dba Legal name
I have a red ink stamp. Your true name is your first and middle, your “legal name” is “FIRST LAST”. Look at your drivers license. Wonder why your name is in ALL CAPS? Same on your birth certificate. Same on any notice from a court. That’s your legal name, a trust formed by the government in order to do business with you and on you.
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Contact your Reps and have them support Monetary Metals Tax Neutrality Act (H.R. 2284) bill.

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 Quoting: Agent 99


I sent an email to Representative Foxx in NC on a few issues about metals and this bill.

Our Representatives need to hear from us.
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Sent a note to Thom Tillis this morning. If this passes the Senate. But more importantly, these politicians need to start talking about this and allow the information to boil to the top.
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You mean the Coinage Act of 1792

That legislation?

It's already in there...
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Basel III this June??

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Basel III this June??

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Math
187200 tonnes on Earth mined (2017)

- 140000 tonnes industrial, jewelry, investment
-8500 tonnes US Treasury
-12000 tonnes EU combined
-2000 tonnes Russia
-4000 tonnes Islam combined
-4000 tonnes other countries

China 1842 tonnes OR 20000 tonnes?
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Basel III this June??

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Math
187200 tonnes on Earth mined (2017)

- 140000 tonnes industrial, jewelry, investment
-8500 tonnes US Treasury
-12000 tonnes EU combined
-2000 tonnes Russia
-4000 tonnes Islam combined
-4000 tonnes other countries

China 1842 tonnes OR 20000 tonnes?
 Quoting: Agent 99


=

US/EU total 19000
China/Russia/Islam total 20000

TWO NEW SUPER POWERS to base currency on???

EAST and WEST
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Contact your Reps and have them support Monetary Metals Tax Neutrality Act (H.R. 2284) bill.

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This.
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Gross Debt
Asia Pacific 24 trillion
North America 23 trillion
Europe 16 trillion
South America 3 trillion
Africa 1.3 trillion
Other 1.2 trillion
World 70 trillion
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Contact your Reps and have them support Monetary Metals Tax Neutrality Act (H.R. 2284) bill.

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 Quoting: Agent 99


This.
 Quoting: Goneviral


I also mentioned that banks need to become exchange places for metal. Other than pawn shops and online brokers.

Banks have vaults, safe deposit boxes, security, accountability (sometimes questionable) with oversight, and experienced tellers.
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Contact your Reps and have them support Monetary Metals Tax Neutrality Act (H.R. 2284) bill.

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 Quoting: Agent 99


This.
 Quoting: Goneviral


I also mentioned that banks need to become exchange places for metal. Other than pawn shops and online brokers.

Banks have vaults, safe deposit boxes, security, accountability (sometimes questionable) with oversight, and experienced tellers.
 Quoting: Agent 99


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