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ELON MUSK: "This Will Happen Next" - Re: UBI

 
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Will UBI lead to a dark place? We're already in a dark place could it get darker? yup.

Human nature is always discounted by leftists, usually on purpose openly because secretly they know how much murder and suffering is required to gain control.

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They should tax the shit out of each robot. Tax it at 1.5-2 times the rate of what they would pay a human to do the job. Make it pay into social security and the rest, whatever is left over goes to pay unemployment.
 Quoting: vEyeSea


This is the way!!
 Quoting: Rick Deez Nuts


It is a great idea!hf

Every robot taking away valuable jobs represents TAX MONEY owed to the People or Government. Corporations will have to pay this missing TAX MONEY back to the people and their governmental institutions. Wealth can then be allocated properly to all citizens this way.

Taxing all Corporations properly, will prevent further monopolies.hfstoner
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Thread: America's Cities Are Being Turned Into Crime-Ridden War-Zones; Murder Rates Are Way Up Again In 2021
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It brings up an interesting challenge that needs more thought and discussion! A basic no-frills income could replace all welfare and people could work for everything they want beyond that. One problem from a governmental perspective is that it's very hard to control people who have free time. The idea has some merit, but the bureaucrats and politicians need to be reined in forcefully. Otherwise, it's ripe for abuse.

IMHO, we need to get rid of the wasteful programs first. There needs to be productivity via people and/or automation if we're to have any economy at all.
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i see your point but left to their own devices the idle mind is the devils workshop and tons of evil can be cooked up in the human mind.

I have thought many times they want us dependent on them. Introduce drug habits and it is not hard to control a population at all.

i think that is the push to legalize drugs in cities.


i have thought for a very long time they want no people in the country every one in cities and apartments where they can control when and where you travel!!! Gates from 5 am to 10 pm and then curfew like in v for vendetta.

or walled cities like in Logans Run or Judge Dredd...


also there is a push to get rid of unproductive members of society who can no linger contribute... sSEE COVID and NURSING HOMES
 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


I agree with all of that and speaking of Gates, (pun intended) he will own ALL the farmland soon and certainly doesn't want any of us mucking it up.

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Will UBI lead to a dark place? We're already in a dark place could it get darker? yup.
 Quoting: Fiestyfiddle


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UBI will Free Up the working middle class ya tender flake.stoner



Working middle classmen would love to have an extra 1000 dollar monthly bonus plan. After all, the welfare cases around here already have UBI, free housing, free education and free medical ffs! Middle-class taxes already pat for welfare UBI .

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They should tax the shit out of each robot. Tax it at 1.5-2 times the rate of what they would pay a human to do the job. Make it pay into social security and the rest, whatever is left over goes to pay unemployment.
 Quoting: vEyeSea


That's exactly what they want, that will create a huge regulatory system that makes it cost prohibitive for small businesses to use automation (for services etc).
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Well if the robots and AI are going to do everything they will be scrapped when there is no one left to buy their crap.
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It brings up an interesting challenge that needs more thought and discussion! A basic no-frills income could replace all welfare and people could work for everything they want beyond that. One problem from a governmental perspective is that it's very hard to control people who have free time. The idea has some merit, but the bureaucrats and politicians need to be reined in forcefully. Otherwise, it's ripe for abuse.

IMHO, we need to get rid of the wasteful programs first. There needs to be productivity via people and/or automation if we're to have any economy at all.
 Quoting: FeralOne


i see your point but left to their own devices the idle mind is the devils workshop and tons of evil can be cooked up in the human mind.

I have thought many times they want us dependent on them. Introduce drug habits and it is not hard to control a population at all.

i think that is the push to legalize drugs in cities.


i have thought for a very long time they want no people in the country every one in cities and apartments where they can control when and where you travel!!! Gates from 5 am to 10 pm and then curfew like in v for vendetta.

or walled cities like in Logans Run or Judge Dredd...


also there is a push to get rid of unproductive members of society who can no linger contribute... sSEE COVID and NURSING HOMES
 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


I agree with all of that and speaking of Gates, (pun intended) he will own ALL the farmland soon and certainly doesn't want any of us mucking it up.

bgates
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Man that is one ugly antichrist eh
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I'm leaving earth soon no i am no an alien i'm just human im sick of the others. Elon can go suck on his own intellectual cock i'm not watching his tripe.
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It brings up an interesting challenge that needs more thought and discussion! A basic no-frills income could replace all welfare and people could work for everything they want beyond that. One problem from a governmental perspective is that it's very hard to control people who have free time. The idea has some merit, but the bureaucrats and politicians need to be reined in forcefully. Otherwise, it's ripe for abuse.

IMHO, we need to get rid of the wasteful programs first. There needs to be productivity via people and/or automation if we're to have any economy at all.
 Quoting: FeralOne


i see your point but left to their own devices the idle mind is the devils workshop and tons of evil can be cooked up in the human mind.

I have thought many times they want us dependent on them. Introduce drug habits and it is not hard to control a population at all.

i think that is the push to legalize drugs in cities.


i have thought for a very long time they want no people in the country every one in cities and apartments where they can control when and where you travel!!! Gates from 5 am to 10 pm and then curfew like in v for vendetta.

or walled cities like in Logans Run or Judge Dredd...


also there is a push to get rid of unproductive members of society who can no linger contribute... sSEE COVID and NURSING HOMES
 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


I agree with all of that and speaking of Gates, (pun intended) he will own ALL the farmland soon and certainly doesn't want any of us mucking it up.

bgates
 Quoting: G3


Man that is one ugly antichrist eh
 Quoting: Trommy


If i was God i'd slap him right about now!
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If we can in return eliminate other welfare type payments, it could be an improvement. Some people won't resort to welfare even when they should be getting it, because of pride or principle or just not thinking that way. These are the people I would most want to be receiving help, even if they already have a job. And they would get their checks under UBI.

But how do you keep it away from half of Central America coming to get it too?

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This video is shit. It literally spends 10 minutes saying:

"robots are taking your jobs, we will keep everything for ourselves and give you some scraps to just about cover your rent"
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I do troll Twatter to piss libtards off.

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They should tax the shit out of each robot. Tax it at 1.5-2 times the rate of what they would pay a human to do the job. Make it pay into social security and the rest, whatever is left over goes to pay unemployment.
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Rerun Elon has a lot of payback to taxpayers coming. Aside that, he is speaking truth because he has money to do that.

He kind of reminds me of McAfee. Without the pooping in the mouth stuff.
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Or the "i will eat my own dick if Bitcoin doesn't reach 100k"....
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This is one of the key models/concepts they are invested in - but they will never let you know that.

That the NWO is akin to the creation of the first multicellular 'creature' - from the amalgamation of formerly free living single celled bacteria.



The Rockefeller Foundation has recognized and is supporting this process of solutions and resilience in its 100 Resilient Cities project (RC100). Its stated mission is: Helping cities around the world become more resilient to the physical, social, and economic challenges that are a growing part of the 21st century. My city, Honolulu, was appointed in the 3rd cohort of RC100, and we are fortunate that cities such as Oakland, California, two years ahead of us in the first cohort, can help us design our own mission as we clearly share many of the same problems from homelessness to rising seas.

Oakland, in its two-year report, says:
“A key action of the Resilient Oakland playbook is to develop principles for community engagement in Oakland…The ‘secret sauce’ of Oakland is rooted in our people and the 75 neighborhoods they shape…Diversity is a source of economic vitality for many Oakland businesses. Small businesses represent the foundation of Oakland’s local economy, with 90 percent of businesses in Oakland employing less than 20 people. These businesses face challenges, such as rising commercial rents, increasing gentrification, and recent overall economic stagnation. Given that many of the City’s small businesses are also located in low-income, minority-based neighborhoods, protecting the viability of these businesses is also a matter of equity and social justice.”

To restate my case, cities are the most promising human-created living entities able not only to solve their internal problems, but to lead the way in evolving humanity to its second and this time global wave of maturity. Oakland’s report demonstrates the language of mature cooperative problem solving and Oakland is clearly drawing on its creative diversity as it works hard to rehabilitate its neighborhoods, support local economy and improve its self-governance.

That is exactly what is now demanded of us all as we must navigate this perfect storm of crises we humans have created. Increasingly severe natural disasters due to climate change, the growing refugee crisis due to both climate change and the persisting horrors of competitive warfare, the many problems resulting from an extreme wealth gap, are all inescapable now. We are caught in these stormy waters,................... cont.


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Man I would bet dollars to donuts we are in fact being ruled by aliens i.e. "They Live" It really would explain everything...

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"We replaced all the workers with robots, so now we get to keep all our profits!"

"Why is no one buying anything? Oh wait, people need money before they can give us their money."

"Maybe reducing the world population wasn't such a good idea."
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The .01% currently have the tech to not need the other 99.98%
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One of the best videos I have seen on this site in all my years here. It raises a lot of question that will need answering. I think schools for the arts and the learning of knowledge is going to more important than ever. There is not a thing wrong with trying to make life easier. As long as its a better life. Wonder where we would be if this world was never based on the greed system.
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Has thing got better or anyone except the top ten percent no. The computer age has done more harm than good for the average person, it also caused other problems called phone addiction, selfie addiction, an uptick in human trafficking, they can advertise to each other now more than before the computer came online.

As for all the new products, the waste yards are full of them, they break down because they were created to not work long, so you would buy quicker than before, costed as much to fix it than buy a new one. There was nothing wrong with the older technology, and the products lasted for a long time, the fact being they are still working today. I will buy a good older product or machine than the new ones.

Land fill are a problem people, don't talk to me about Climate change when you have not done anything except cause the problems.
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I'm sickened by the world these people are creating.

End Game: Blueprint For Global Enslavement seems to be pretty accurate.

Also, reading the article in Wired Magazine by Bill Joy: Why The Future Doesn't Need Us, seems to be coming to fruition.
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One of the best videos I have seen on this site in all my years here. It raises a lot of question that will need answering. I think schools for the arts and the learning of knowledge is going to more important than ever. There is not a thing wrong with trying to make life easier. As long as its a better life. Wonder where we would be if this world was never based on the greed system.
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Without a greed system?

We would experience paradise naturally, a peaceful existence without the headaches of greed driven mutts all around..stonerlolsignpopcorn
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This video is shit. It literally spends 10 minutes saying:

"robots are taking your jobs, we will keep everything for ourselves and give you some scraps to just about cover your rent"
 Quoting: John Locke


If robots are taking our jobs why do we need low skilled, low IQ illegals from South America?
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I agree.
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This video is shit. It literally spends 10 minutes saying:

"robots are taking your jobs, we will keep everything for ourselves and give you some scraps to just about cover your rent"
 Quoting: John Locke


Wake up, we are getting $0 right now
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Don't give out free cash.

Shorten the work week every year. Same pay for 39 hours as you made for 40.
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Raise the Minimum Wage to $20 per hour. That's the way
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Don't give out free cash.

Shorten the work week every year. Same pay for 39 hours as you made for 40.
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UBI will shorten the work week naturally, genius.


Why work 40 hours when you can now work 20. OH LOOK! We have twice the jobs available.
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Don't give out free cash.

Raise the Minimum Wage to $20 per hour. That's the way
to Redistribute the Wealth.

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 Quoting: METELLYOUNOW




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They should tax the shit out of each robot. Tax it at 1.5-2 times the rate of what they would pay a human to do the job. Make it pay into social security and the rest, whatever is left over goes to pay unemployment.
 Quoting: vEyeSea


This is the way!!
 Quoting: Rick Deez Nuts


It is a great idea!hf

Every robot taking away valuable jobs represents TAX MONEY owed to the People or Government. Corporations will have to pay this missing TAX MONEY back to the people and their governmental institutions. Wealth can then be allocated properly to all citizens this way.

Taxing all Corporations properly, will prevent further monopolies.hfstoner
 Quoting: CUB4DK


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Well if they give it without condition, then that would be a good thing. I don't see how testing it out b4 hand could work - you'd need to have everyone on it to get a better picture. If everyone is on it, after some short time, innovations would begin to appear, there are always motivated people who will do creative things whether they are paid or not.

Much better than having millions of homeless; especially if they would start to build cheap living spaces that had some dignity, but not expensive. Homes for the mentally ill.

Taxing robots - all the way with this!





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