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Imaslavie: Underground Russian Orthodox "Name Worship"

 
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Imaslavie: Underground Russian Orthodox "Name Worship"
"Imiaslavie (literally "praising the name") or Imiabozhie, also spelled imyaslavie and imyabozhie, and also referred to as onomatodoxy, is a dogmatic movement which asserts that the Name of God is God Himself. Although it was condemned by the Russian Orthodox Church in 1913, it is still promoted by many contemporary Russian writers....The movement emerged in the beginning of the 20th century but both proponents and opponents claim it to be connected with much religious thought throughout the history of Christianity ...

The 20th century history of Imiaslavie started in 1907 with the publication of the book On the Caucasus Mountains by a revered starets, Schema-monk Hilarion. In his book, Hilarion told of his spiritual experience with the Jesus Prayer as a proof that "The name of God is God Himself and can produce miracles". The book became extremely popular among the Russian monks on Mount Athos in Greece. Many of them argued that, since according to Plato, "the name of an object exists since before the object itself does", so the name of God must pre-exist before the world was created, and that it (the Name) cannot be anything but God Himself. Among other things, this was thought to mean that knowledge of the secret name of God alone allows one to perform miracles (a similar concept exists in Kabbalah[citation needed]). This also implied that extreme caution was needed when using names like Jehovah, Christ, etc.

The opponents of Imiaslavie, the other Athonite monks, considered this teaching to be pantheism and incompatible with Christianity.

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Other links:

In the Name of God:100 Years of the Imiaslavie Movement in the Church of Russia (PDF)
[link to www.cjoc.ca]

Vladimir Moss The Name Of God And The Name-Worshipping Heresy
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website of the nun Kassia Senina on Imaslavie
[link to www.pravoslav.de]
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Imiaslavie and mathematics

The Russian Mathematics School is considered by some to have been created by Dmitri Egorov and Nikolai Luzin, both of whom were Imiaslavtsy and personal friends of Pavel Florensky as well as philosopher Aleksei Losev (both imiaslavtsy in theology).[8][9] Florensky was a pupil of Egorov and a classmate of Luzin, and they published together. Florensky published works on the parallels between abstract mathematics and religion: he stated that the mathematics of continuous functions is like rationalism while some concepts, such as transfinite numbers, can be explained only in the framework of the Imiaslavie philosophy, where the Name of God is God Himself.

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See also:

Naming God, Naming Infinity: Religious Mysticism and Mathematical Creativity


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Something along the lines of prelest but taken to another level. Interesting. SOmething to look deeper into during my Lent.
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Why do western christians only call God 1 name?

I personally like the one that translates to mean wealth. The mother of god translates, Goddess of wealth.
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Why do western christians only call God 1 name?

I personally like the one that translates to mean wealth. The mother of god translates, Goddess of wealth.
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I've always thought that Jehovah Jovan Jupiter is what created our space in this solar system.
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I've always thought that Jehovah Jovan Jupiter is what created our space in this solar system.
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It's refreshing that you can reach across religions to find commonality.

However my impression is that Jupiter is not a creator God...what about the Titans and the even more ancient strata?
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I've always thought that Jehovah Jovan Jupiter is what created our space in this solar system.
 Quoting: chasity

It's refreshing that you can reach across religions to find commonality.

However my impression is that Jupiter is not a creator God...what about the Titans and the even more ancient strata?
 Quoting: Ordovician


Jupiter has a moon called Titan. Stratosphere could have been formed when Jupiter was wondering around the solar system. The Stratosphere would have to come first before life started developing on earth. I believe these are reactions from Jupiter.

Can you explain your belief with Titan and Strata?

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I've always thought that Jehovah Jovan Jupiter is what created our space in this solar system.
 Quoting: chasity

It's refreshing that you can reach across religions to find commonality.

However my impression is that Jupiter is not a creator God...what about the Titans and the even more ancient strata?
 Quoting: Ordovician


Most of the ancient ones were pretty much gods of chaos. And neigh nearly forgotten now...like hundun and such. Ideas of formation, hence the 'world egg', once that egg gets cracked, reality steps in. Jehovah didn't say there were not other Gods, correct? Just that the h3brews were not to put any other before him. Did this make it around the algos? Yep

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I like their names, especially the one with over 200 names, you know, the odd god
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I like their names, especially the one with over 200 names, you know, the odd god
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The wyrd.
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I've always thought that Jehovah Jovan Jupiter is what created our space in this solar system.
 Quoting: chasity

It's refreshing that you can reach across religions to find commonality.

However my impression is that Jupiter is not a creator God...what about the Titans and the even more ancient strata?
 Quoting: Ordovician


Most of the ancient ones were pretty much gods of chaos. And neigh nearly forgotten now...like hundun and such. Ideas of formation, hence the 'world egg', once that egg gets cracked, reality steps in. Jehovah didn't say there were not other Gods, correct? Just that the h3brews were not to put any other before him. Did this make it around the algos? Yep
 Quoting: Saint Lance the Odd from BC


Very interesting.

The Shinto conception of origin is most peculiar. There is a primal creator, Amenominakanushi-kami-sama, and he is part of a triad of primal deities about whom almost nothing is said. But while He is seen as a primal creator, the language used in the Kojiki implies that a kind of uncreated reality existed before him. It's like he "appeared one day" or "came along," sort of, in a space-time field that was preexistent. Nobody seems to have been interested in where this earlier "field" came from, if anywhere.

Buddhism also posits basically infinite time without a primal creator.
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I like their names, especially the one with over 200 names, you know, the odd god
 Quoting: Lover_Girl


The wyrd.
 Quoting: Saint Lance the Odd from BC


You guys remember the spaghetti god?
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Buddhism also posits basically infinite time without a primal creator.
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This is where I tend to always end up. But then someone comes along and says our brains are too puny to understand.
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I've always thought that Jehovah Jovan Jupiter is what created our space in this solar system.
 Quoting: chasity

It's refreshing that you can reach across religions to find commonality.

However my impression is that Jupiter is not a creator God...what about the Titans and the even more ancient strata?
 Quoting: Ordovician


Most of the ancient ones were pretty much gods of chaos. And neigh nearly forgotten now...like hundun and such. Ideas of formation, hence the 'world egg', once that egg gets cracked, reality steps in. Jehovah didn't say there were not other Gods, correct? Just that the h3brews were not to put any other before him. Did this make it around the algos? Yep
 Quoting: Saint Lance the Odd from BC


Very interesting.

The Shinto conception of origin is most peculiar. There is a primal creator, Amenominakanushi-kami-sama, and he is part of a triad of primal deities about whom almost nothing is said. But while He is seen as a primal creator, the language used in the Kojiki implies that a kind of uncreated reality existed before him. It's like he "appeared one day" or "came along," sort of, in a space-time field that was preexistent. Nobody seems to have been interested in where this earlier "field" came from, if anywhere.

Buddhism also posits basically infinite time without a primal creator.
 Quoting: Ordovician


I think you would like the Meru.org (sp) stuff with Stan about the H3brew language being a sign language and a yoga and perhaps the spoken being more then meer words. He definitely gives moar/more in normal speak, meaning to language then I ever conceived even though I am well aware that ENglish is a grimoire.
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I think you would like the Meru.org (sp) stuff with Stan about the H3brew language being a sign language and a yoga and perhaps the spoken being more then meer words. He definitely gives moar/more in normal speak, meaning to language then I ever conceived even though I am well aware that ENglish is a grimoire.
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Excellent, thanks for the tip! Will look into it.
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I like their names, especially the one with over 200 names, you know, the odd god
 Quoting: Lover_Girl


The wyrd.
 Quoting: Saint Lance the Odd from BC


You know den, scro den

Whoa then

He calls me sleep-near and that’s exactly what happens
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I like their names, especially the one with over 200 names, you know, the odd god
 Quoting: Lover_Girl


The wyrd.
 Quoting: Saint Lance the Odd from BC


You guys remember the spaghetti god?
 Quoting: chasity


Oh yea, where do you think I got into tentacle porn?

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Why do western christians only call God 1 name?

I personally like the one that translates to mean wealth. The mother of god translates, Goddess of wealth.
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There you go! Follow the Reverend Bill Bob Proverb! PRAISE GOD THROUGH MATERIALISM!



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Why do western christians only call God 1 name?

I personally like the one that translates to mean wealth. The mother of god translates, Goddess of wealth.
 Quoting: chasity


There you go! Follow the Reverend Bill Bob Proverb! PRAISE GOD THROUGH MATERIALISM!


The only god I worship is the ALMIGHTY DOLLAR!
 Quoting: Bikeride


Wealth doesn't mean money, it's value, return, gain. Most people in other countries consider themselves wealthy because of their family, not because of money.
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It's refreshing that you can reach across religions to find commonality.

However my impression is that Jupiter is not a creator God...what about the Titans and the even more ancient strata?
 Quoting: Ordovician


Most of the ancient ones were pretty much gods of chaos. And neigh nearly forgotten now...like hundun and such. Ideas of formation, hence the 'world egg', once that egg gets cracked, reality steps in. Jehovah didn't say there were not other Gods, correct? Just that the h3brews were not to put any other before him. Did this make it around the algos? Yep
 Quoting: Saint Lance the Odd from BC


Very interesting.

The Shinto conception of origin is most peculiar. There is a primal creator, Amenominakanushi-kami-sama, and he is part of a triad of primal deities about whom almost nothing is said. But while He is seen as a primal creator, the language used in the Kojiki implies that a kind of uncreated reality existed before him. It's like he "appeared one day" or "came along," sort of, in a space-time field that was preexistent. Nobody seems to have been interested in where this earlier "field" came from, if anywhere.

Buddhism also posits basically infinite time without a primal creator.
 Quoting: Ordovician


I think you would like the Meru.org (sp) stuff with Stan about the H3brew language being a sign language and a yoga and perhaps the spoken being more then meer words. He definitely gives moar/more in normal speak, meaning to language then I ever conceived even though I am well aware that ENglish is a grimoire.
 Quoting: Saint Lance the Odd from BC


is it more that than say, German, is?
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Most of the ancient ones were pretty much gods of chaos. And neigh nearly forgotten now...like hundun and such. Ideas of formation, hence the 'world egg', once that egg gets cracked, reality steps in. Jehovah didn't say there were not other Gods, correct? Just that the h3brews were not to put any other before him. Did this make it around the algos? Yep
 Quoting: Saint Lance the Odd from BC


Very interesting.

The Shinto conception of origin is most peculiar. There is a primal creator, Amenominakanushi-kami-sama, and he is part of a triad of primal deities about whom almost nothing is said. But while He is seen as a primal creator, the language used in the Kojiki implies that a kind of uncreated reality existed before him. It's like he "appeared one day" or "came along," sort of, in a space-time field that was preexistent. Nobody seems to have been interested in where this earlier "field" came from, if anywhere.

Buddhism also posits basically infinite time without a primal creator.
 Quoting: Ordovician


I think you would like the Meru.org (sp) stuff with Stan about the H3brew language being a sign language and a yoga and perhaps the spoken being more then meer words. He definitely gives moar/more in normal speak, meaning to language then I ever conceived even though I am well aware that ENglish is a grimoire.
 Quoting: Saint Lance the Odd from BC


is it more that than say, German, is?
 Quoting: beeches


Stan really only gets into H3brew and Arabic....I'm not even sure if he is still alive. I think it has to do with the shaping of the letters so I don't think German would fit into it. Unless someone finds a link!
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