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Buried deep in the Taisho Tripitaka Buddhist Cannon, I found several ancient Christian texts

 
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According to Thich Nhat Hanh's wonderfully written biography of Gautama, "Old Path, White Clouds", buddha was served wrongly cooked mushrooms amongst other things, but in his compassion he went ahead and ate them anyway so as to not make the host feel bad. One might assume that he was quite old by then and ready to move on from this world..

Edit: Well my memory was pretty close, here's the actual passage:

https://imgur.com/a/06Zahtx

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Thank you for this.

Blacksmith's son would be a lower caste?
Pickles mushrooms and soft pork?
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Jesus was a Buddhist. Most of his teachings were taken from Eastern Religions.
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... huh! ... that would surprise Mary who was a virgin descent of abraham, issac, jacob ...
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The Psalms all read very much like Eastern Religions, almost Confucianism with morals.
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Jesus was a Buddhist. Most of his teachings were taken from Eastern Religions.
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No, you are incorrect.
Every one of His teachings can be found in the Septuagint.
To be blunt, it is more likely the teachings of Jesus influenced both Hinduism and Buddhism.
 Quoting: Confederate Soldier


The timing just isn't right historically.
The Far East was well established BC, and the origins of Christianity came from the plateau below Tibet... with migration to the Fertile Crescent/Silk Route. Ancient man were travelers, so the location really didn't matter. It was the oral tradition that was important.
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Interesting stuff OP thumbs

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I had speculated that Jesus traveled the silk road during his adult life. I even thought about the possibility of him meeting with influential religious leaders in the east. Of course I don't have the time or resources to verify any of that.
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Thanks for the great response, friends. I'm a little tired out from all the flipping around the digital Cannon I did earlier, but I'll see if I can work up the energy for a little more translation later.

In the meantime, its also interesting to look the other way: Did Buddhism influence Christianity? Perhaps the strongest piece of evidence in this direction is the so-called story of "Barlaam and Josephat."
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]


"Barlaam and Josaphat are legendary Christian martyrs and saints. Their life story is very likely to have been based on the life of the Gautama Buddha. It tells how an Indian king persecuted the Christian Church in his realm. When astrologers predicted that his own son would some day become a Christian, the king imprisoned the young prince Josaphat, who nevertheless met the hermit Saint Barlaam and converted to Christianity. After much tribulation the young prince's father accepted the Christian faith, turned over his throne to Josaphat, and retired to the desert to become a hermit. Josaphat himself later abdicated and went into seclusion with his old teacher Barlaam. The tale derives from a second to fourth century Sanskrit Mahayana Buddhist text, via a Manichaean version, then the Arabic Kitab Bilawhar wa-Būd̠asaf (Book of Bilawhar and Budhasaf), current in Baghdad in the eighth century, from where it entered into Middle Eastern Christian circles before appearing in European versions."
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I had speculated that Jesus traveled the silk road during his adult life. I even thought about the possibility of him meeting with influential religious leaders in the east. Of course I don't have the time or resources to verify any of that.
 Quoting: Penance Due


There's long been speculation about that, usually involving the story of a russian explorer dude encountering texts in some obscure monastery talking about Isa visiting India - this being the name Islam uses for Jesus in their language, I guess. This, of course, was strongly discredited by the Church.

Anyway if one is interested in seeing some information about this very touchy subject, this documentary is pretty interesting:



In it an Indian guru claims documentation in the Indian government about this, but who knows what the reality might be! All we know is that there are "missing years" in Jesus' life story.

(Note I have changed the video, I thought it was the full documentary on youtube, but it's a presentation by the author of that documentary, not the documentary itself)

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..to follow.
Unless...

"The truth shall set you free, but first it will piss you off."

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This is one of the best grown up discussions I've ever read.

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nirvana means ???
buddha means ???
anatman means???
tathagata means???
emanuel means ???
christ means???
ahura mazda means???

in buddism, what's the vehicle for consciousness transfer from one incarnation to another ?

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Thank you for posting this.

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Jesus was a Buddhist. Most of his teachings were taken from Eastern Religions.
 Quoting: Harry Dresden


No, you are incorrect.
Every one of His teachings can be found in the Septuagint.
To be blunt, it is more likely the teachings of Jesus influenced both Hinduism and Buddhism.
 Quoting: Confederate Soldier


The timing just isn't right historically.
The Far East was well established BC, and the origins of Christianity came from the plateau below Tibet... with migration to the Fertile Crescent/Silk Route. Ancient man were travelers, so the location really didn't matter. It was the oral tradition that was important.
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Jesus is traceable to the garden
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bump
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Christ visited China??

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Thanks for the great response, friends. I'm a little tired out from all the flipping around the digital Cannon I did earlier, but I'll see if I can work up the energy for a little more translation later.

In the meantime, its also interesting to look the other way: Did Buddhism influence Christianity? Perhaps the strongest piece of evidence in this direction is the so-called story of "Barlaam and Josephat."
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]


"Barlaam and Josaphat are legendary Christian martyrs and saints. Their life story is very likely to have been based on the life of the Gautama Buddha. It tells how an Indian king persecuted the Christian Church in his realm. When astrologers predicted that his own son would some day become a Christian, the king imprisoned the young prince Josaphat, who nevertheless met the hermit Saint Barlaam and converted to Christianity. After much tribulation the young prince's father accepted the Christian faith, turned over his throne to Josaphat, and retired to the desert to become a hermit. Josaphat himself later abdicated and went into seclusion with his old teacher Barlaam. The tale derives from a second to fourth century Sanskrit Mahayana Buddhist text, via a Manichaean version, then the Arabic Kitab Bilawhar wa-Būd̠asaf (Book of Bilawhar and Budhasaf), current in Baghdad in the eighth century, from where it entered into Middle Eastern Christian circles before appearing in European versions."
 Quoting: Ordovician


The pure unaltered teachings of all higher consciousness beings who came into this low consciousness part of reality throughout the ages have one commonality, that is to teach us a way of living to be more kind, compassionate, and respectful to each other and all things.

It is through our unaware human biases that those very similar teachings were fractured into many different religions and spiritual sects. And those biases were sometimes intentional for personal benefits, and sometimes unintentional through misunderstanding, misinterpretation, or mis-translation.

All the pure teachings guide us to uncover and realize our true nature that is unconditional love, compassion, and joy. That is to guide us to evolve spiritually to higher consciousness having greater wisdom and maturity, being more able to make better and more benevolent choices.

Then we could have "Heaven" on Earth. This long process of spiritual discovery and evolution is not exclusive to Earth. All higher consciousness worlds had gone through what we have been going through, and there are many. It is the fun but immensely challenging adventure we willingly signed up for with great passion. It is how love and light will forever spread and expand.

All the best.
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wow. THANK YOU OP!
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Oh that calls for another quote!

1 Peter 3:8–9
Finally, all of you, have unity of mind, sympathy, brotherly love, a tender heart, and a humble mind. 9 Do not repay evil for evil or reviling for reviling, but on the contrary, bless, for to this you were called, that you may obtain a blessing.
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THIS my friend is awesome research and wonderful information! Thank you kindly for sharing this with us.

You know I cannot recall the buddist prophecy, but I remember after watching the beautiful series of the Life of Buddha with Himanshu Soni, I searched something in regard to Jesus and there is some buddist prophecy of them knowing Jesus was to come and he would be pierced! You would have to look it up.

Fantastic work though and I hope you share more with us as you further your research! Blessings to everyone!
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Foundations of a Nestorian church has been found in Kyoto dated to around 1000CE.
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Thanks for the great response, friends. I'm a little tired out from all the flipping around the digital Cannon I did earlier, but I'll see if I can work up the energy for a little more translation later.

In the meantime, its also interesting to look the other way: Did Buddhism influence Christianity? Perhaps the strongest piece of evidence in this direction is the so-called story of "Barlaam and Josephat."
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]


"Barlaam and Josaphat are legendary Christian martyrs and saints. Their life story is very likely to have been based on the life of the Gautama Buddha. It tells how an Indian king persecuted the Christian Church in his realm. When astrologers predicted that his own son would some day become a Christian, the king imprisoned the young prince Josaphat, who nevertheless met the hermit Saint Barlaam and converted to Christianity. After much tribulation the young prince's father accepted the Christian faith, turned over his throne to Josaphat, and retired to the desert to become a hermit. Josaphat himself later abdicated and went into seclusion with his old teacher Barlaam. The tale derives from a second to fourth century Sanskrit Mahayana Buddhist text, via a Manichaean version, then the Arabic Kitab Bilawhar wa-Būd̠asaf (Book of Bilawhar and Budhasaf), current in Baghdad in the eighth century, from where it entered into Middle Eastern Christian circles before appearing in European versions."
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The pure unaltered teachings of all higher consciousness beings who came into this low consciousness part of reality throughout the ages have one commonality, that is to teach us a way of living to be more kind, compassionate, and respectful to each other and all things.

It is through our unaware human biases that those very similar teachings were fractured into many different religions and spiritual sects. And those biases were sometimes intentional for personal benefits, and sometimes unintentional through misunderstanding, misinterpretation, or mis-translation.

All the pure teachings guide us to uncover and realize our true nature that is unconditional love, compassion, and joy. That is to guide us to evolve spiritually to higher consciousness having greater wisdom and maturity, being more able to make better and more benevolent choices.

Then we could have "Heaven" on Earth. This long process of spiritual discovery and evolution is not exclusive to Earth. All higher consciousness worlds had gone through what we have been going through, and there are many. It is the fun but immensely challenging adventure we willingly signed up for with great passion. It is how love and light will forever spread and expand.

All the best.
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GREAT post!!!
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Best thread I've read in a long time OP. Thanks.
Makes you feel like Indiana Jones discovering hidden knowledge reading this thread.
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The pure unaltered teachings of all higher consciousness beings who came into this low consciousness part of reality throughout the ages have one commonality, that is to teach us a way of living to be more kind, compassionate, and respectful to each other and all things.

It is through our unaware human biases that those very similar teachings were fractured into many different religions and spiritual sects. And those biases were sometimes intentional for personal benefits, and sometimes unintentional through misunderstanding, misinterpretation, or mis-translation.

All the pure teachings guide us to uncover and realize our true nature that is unconditional love, compassion, and joy. That is to guide us to evolve spiritually to higher consciousness having greater wisdom and maturity, being more able to make better and more benevolent choices.

Then we could have "Heaven" on Earth. This long process of spiritual discovery and evolution is not exclusive to Earth. All higher consciousness worlds had gone through what we have been going through, and there are many. It is the fun but immensely challenging adventure we willingly signed up for with great passion. It is how love and light will forever spread and expand.

All the best.


GREAT post!!!


Seconded and selfishly taking up room to easily find my way back.

I thank the OP for filling his thread with rare, absorbing knowlege.

It's also lovely that there is little condemnation, so far, from those thinking that they hold the only key to truth.

The closer one gets to the original teachings of the religions, the more interesting it usually is. Doubly so for the initial Christian teachings, though they may be the most difficult to find.
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bump Good work OP.
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One of those threads that lend significance to GLP.

Oustanding!

Thank you, OP!

Bump for later.
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Wow, op.. this is pretty damned amazing.

Thanks for sharing, and keep it coming.

5 stars!

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Did they say anything about free titties for the poor? I am in need just waiting for a standup organization like yours.
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I had speculated that Jesus traveled the silk road during his adult life. I even thought about the possibility of him meeting with influential religious leaders in the east. Of course I don't have the time or resources to verify any of that.
 Quoting: Penance Due


There's long been speculation about that, usually involving the story of a russian explorer dude encountering texts in some obscure monastery talking about Isa visiting India - this being the name Islam uses for Jesus in their language, I guess. This, of course, was strongly discredited by the Church.

Anyway if one is interested in seeing some information about this very touchy subject, this documentary is pretty interesting:



In it an Indian guru claims documentation in the Indian government about this, but who knows what the reality might be! All we know is that there are "missing years" in Jesus' life story.

(Note I have changed the video, I thought it was the full documentary on youtube, but it's a presentation by the author of that documentary, not the documentary itself)
 Quoting: Alien Seb Fiend

I read a lot of this book... I have an original copy.

It's called The Unknown Life of Jesus Christ by Nicolas Notovitch.

It's incredibly interesting, very good visual descriptions with the journey he took to get to Ladakh and the people's he encountered.

A very visual account... I actually think it would make a great screenplay.
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The Luminous religion. Hmm.

Matthew 6:22

The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

Of course, that is talking about the third eye.


Very interesting, OP. I never knew that any Christian sect had established itself in China.
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And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

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Did part of the bible come from that text, because it looks like it did. I apologize in advance if that was an incredibly stupid question **shuffle feet
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