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Ontario- here we go, another stay at home lockdown for a month!

 
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have they figured out that lockdowns cause waves? without lockdowns it would be over with in one go.
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YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP!

Check-out the statistics from the 1918 pandemic.

One year... ONE YEAR... and it was virtually GONE. Yes, a tremendous number of people perished, but that's because there was zero medical treatments for anything back then.

Herd-immunity is the ONLY way we ever get back to a sense of normalcy. I don't know the exact number, but it's less than 1% death rate, right? If only people would be smart and make a trip to the local drug and feed and tack stores. EVERYTHING needed is there.
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Actually the Spanish Flu of 1918 had 4 waves, over the course of a few years.

That's well documented historical fact, huh. Some of us are old enough to have known people who lived through it, our great-grandmas, for example :D

The covid death rate in USA is currently, supposedly, 1.81%, which comes out to 5.7 million people if every one of your 320 million citizens had it. Is 5.7 million deaths acceptable for the sake of everyone else's immunity?

The math comes out to about 900 thousand deaths in Canada.

I won't even go into the "it's all fake!" thing, that's a personal choice to believe or disbelieve.

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How do people pay their bills if they can't work from home and are forced to stay home?
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Actually the Spanish Flu of 1918 had 4 waves, over the course of a few years.

That's well documented historical fact, huh. Some of us are old enough to have known people who lived through it, our great-grandmas, for example :D

The covid death rate in USA is currently, supposedly, 1.81%, which comes out to 5.7 million people if every one of your 320 million citizens had it. Is 5.7 million deaths acceptable for the sake of everyone else's immunity?

I won't even go into the "it's all fake!" thing, that's a personal choice to believe or disbelieve.

1dunno1
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[link to www.history.com (secure)]

Spanish Flu Pandemic Ends
By the summer of 1919, the flu pandemic came to an end, as those that were infected either died or developed immunity.
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How do people pay their bills if they can't work from home and are forced to stay home?
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Unemployment insurance, some other financial programs are also available.
Regardless of that, the lockdown is a spirit killer for many, staying home, fearful, lethargic, emotionally draining for many.
Suicides are up, depression and alcoholism is up, not good.
"A wise man listens to the message and uses his logic and discernment to process it, a fool negates the message by prejudging the messenger."

"He whose centre is everywhere and whose circumference is nowhere."
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Actually the Spanish Flu of 1918 had 4 waves, over the course of a few years.

That's well documented historical fact, huh. Some of us are old enough to have known people who lived through it, our great-grandmas, for example :D

The covid death rate in USA is currently, supposedly, 1.81%, which comes out to 5.7 million people if every one of your 320 million citizens had it. Is 5.7 million deaths acceptable for the sake of everyone else's immunity?

I won't even go into the "it's all fake!" thing, that's a personal choice to believe or disbelieve.

1dunno1
 Quoting: Alien Seb Fiend



5.7 Million people are going to perish in the USA from Covid? Who are you getting your information from? And do you actually believe them?
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Honestly I have enjoyed this forced vacation time, but living on an island in a rural community with only roughly 1000 residents, things haven't changed too much.. We even still have a farmer's market every week, our few stores figured out a way to still serve the community, and people still go for walks.

I feel for you folk in the cities.. I can't even imagine what that must be like!
 Quoting: Alien Seb Fiend


You are fortunate to live where you are, good for you!
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[link to www.history.com (secure)]

Spanish Flu Pandemic Ends
By the summer of 1919, the flu pandemic came to an end, as those that were infected either died or developed immunity.

 Quoting: liber8tr


Your own link says, right a the top: "While the global pandemic lasted for two years"

Besides, the history channel is a tabloid tv show channel, it's really not a good source.

I mean, just google 1918 pandemic and you will get a gazillion sources explaining that it was a 4 wave pandemic over 2 years.
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5.7 Million people are going to perish in the USA from Covid? Who are you getting your information from? And do you actually believe them?
 Quoting: liber8tr


No, I said that would be the theoretical cost of herd immunity based off the supposed statistics, if you let every single citizen be infected, based off the current death rate there. Whether these statistics are real or not is up to you to decide.

chuckle
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I’m not complying to this, made lots of plans for my days off this week!
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Good for you!
That’s the right attitude.
The lineups at stores are so tedious, so is online ordering at Home Depot, where I get several supplies for my workshop.
Gotta order online, can only use credit card to pay, then get a notice order is received, then get another email later ( sometimes the next day) saying order is ready, then you have to go and lineup at the store and wait to get them to get your order.
Absolute bullshit that does nothing to stop this fakedemic.
 Quoting: LTHN.


This hurts me also, have to build a privacy fence around the backyard and won't have time to buy lumber today; the price of lumber went though the roof, i just checked Home Depot and Lowes, a 1x6x6 fence picket is 6.80 cad, used to be 2-3 cad. Perhaps i shouldn't bother with home improvements , communism is here, we won't own anything.

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[link to www.history.com (secure)]

Spanish Flu Pandemic Ends
By the summer of 1919, the flu pandemic came to an end, as those that were infected either died or developed immunity.

 Quoting: liber8tr


Your own link says, right a the top: "While the global pandemic lasted for two years"

Besides, the history channel is a tabloid tv show channel, it's really not a good source.

I mean, just google 1918 pandemic and you will get a gazillion sources explaining that it was a 4 wave pandemic over 2 years.
 Quoting: Alien Seb Fiend



Promise me this then (as I'm guessing you're one of those who wears a mask in a car when you're the only occupant)... you'll let this all go in 8 months. Promise?
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[link to www.history.com (secure)]

Spanish Flu Pandemic Ends
By the summer of 1919, the flu pandemic came to an end, as those that were infected either died or developed immunity.

 Quoting: liber8tr


Your own link says, right a the top: "While the global pandemic lasted for two years"

Besides, the history channel is a tabloid tv show channel, it's really not a good source.

I mean, just google 1918 pandemic and you will get a gazillion sources explaining that it was a 4 wave pandemic over 2 years.
 Quoting: Alien Seb Fiend



Promise me this then (as I'm guessing you're one of those who wears a mask in a car when you're the only occupant)... you'll let this all go in 8 months. Promise?
 Quoting: liber8tr


8 months from now, Fauci will be telling us four masks should be worn a the same time.
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Rough math.

If you go with 50 million deaths from SF1918 it works out to 2.7% of population. In todays numbers that would be 211 million deaths. This is nowhere near that.

Everyone including them are and will continue pay for their overreaction and using it to further their own agenda.

They want depopulation? "Children of Men" was a plan not a movie. Great. What are they going to do when it blows up in their face and they are ones who are eliminated? When they are the ones found to be infertile. They were warned. What is the price of their greed?



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5.7 Million people are going to perish in the USA from Covid? Who are you getting your information from? And do you actually believe them?
 Quoting: liber8tr


No, I said that would be the theoretical cost of herd immunity based off the supposed statistics, if you let every single citizen be infected, based off the current death rate there. Whether these statistics are real or not is up to you to decide.

chuckle
 Quoting: Alien Seb Fiend


The current infection rate is less than 1% in the USA. The death rate is .00163529411 (Based on 340,000,000 people).

I like my (everyone's) chances.
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There is no Covid
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Covid 19 was a bad flu/killer global pandemic hoax to scare the world into the modern civilization-killing lockdowns.. grooming the peasantry to readily accept their bioweapon vaccines.. BUT a large part of the popualtion everywhere still don't want them.

Their engineered Covid 21/Brazil & other variant variants are the REAL DEAL exploding in Brazil completely collapsing their healthcare system, killing ANYBODY regardless of age even the completely healthy with ZERO comorbidities

This Covid 22 is their REAL DEAL killer much more contageousc virus, and it's just starting to do the same thing in a few cities in Cànada. They released this to changed a whole lot of people's minds about getting their bioweapon vaccines and digit Covid freedom passports.

2 ICU doctors at our local hospital confirmed on our TV news last night that what is happening in Brazil is beginning here now. They said they have many younger people on ventilators without any other diseases and as young as 20 year olds. Half in their ICU are under 50 many with no comorbidities.. and the Covid, now 21/Brazil variant, with death rate rising quickly.

This is what we ALL can expect coming soon to you..

Below is the REAL 2021 Gameplan for what is about to hit all humanty leaked by a Canadian Liberal Party member whistleblower in Trudeau's government back on Oct. 10/20.

Almost every single thing below has come true to this point April 5/2021.. Every single thing outlined moving forward is already appearing in its early stage with all of the globalist, world government's & technological systems in place and ready to launch.

Buckle up boys this is gonna be painful for everyone... But be MEN for fuck sake and RESIST!






<[email protected]>1:47 PM  Original Message &#8208; Saturday, October 10, 2020 1:38 PM, REMOVED <REMOVED> wrote:

Dear REMOVED,

I want to provide you some very important information. I’m a committee member within the Liberal Party of Canada. I sit within several committee groups but the information I am providing is originating from the Strategic Planning committee, which is steered by the PMO (*this is a researcher edit 'not' in leaker email: PMO-Prime Minister's Office-Justin Trudeau Liberal Party leader/Prime Minister of Canada/Jesuit-schooled like his father/Mother is of the Scottish Sinclair bloodline founder of Scottish Rite Freemasonry).

I need to start off by saying that I’m not happy doing this but I have to. As a Canadian and more importantly as a parent who wants a better future not only for my children but for other children as well. The other reason I am doing this is because roughly 30% of the committee members are not pleased with the direction this will take Canada, but our opinions have been ignored and they plan on moving forward toward their goals. They have also made it very clear that nothing will stop the planned outcomes.

The road map and aim was set out by the PMO and is as follows:

1. Phase in secondary lock down restrictions on a rolling basis, starting with major metropolitan areas first and expanding outward. Expected by November 2020. (Done)

2. Rush the acquisition of (or construction of) isolation facilities across every province and territory. Expected by December 2020. (Done)

3. Daily new cases of COVID-19 will surge beyond capacity of testing, including increases in COVID related deaths following the same growth curves. Expected by end of November 2020.

4. Complete and total secondary lock down (much stricter than the first and second rolling phase restrictions). Expected by end of December 2020 – early January 2021 (Done. In biggest urban areas)

5. Reform and expansion of the unemployment program to be transitioned into the universal basic income program. Expected by Q1 2021. (1st part done)

6. Projected COVID-19 mutation and/or co-infection with secondary virus (referred to as COVID-21) leading to a third wave with much higher mortality rate and higher rate of infection. Expected by February 2021.  (Done)

7. Daily new cases of COVID-21 hospitalizations and COVID-19 and COVID-21 related deaths will exceed medical care facilities capacity. Expected Q1 – Q2 2021.  (Coming quickly)

8. Enhanced lock down restrictions (referred to as Third Lock Down) will be implemented. Full travel restrictions will be imposed (including inter-province and inter-city). Expected Q2 2021. (Likely coming quickly with more virulent & really deadly Covid-21 variants)

9. Transitioning of individuals into the universal basic income program. Expected mid Q2 2021. (Trudeau has already in the works to be put infront of parliament)

10. Projected supply chain break downs, inventory shortages, large economic instability. Expected late Q2 2021.

11. Deployment of military personnel into major metropolitan areas as well as all major roadways to establish travel checkpoints. Restrict travel and movement. Provide logistical support to the area. Expected by Q3 2021.

Along with that provided road map the Strategic Planning committee was asked to design an effective way of transitioning Canadians to meet a unprecedented economic endeavor. One that would change the face of Canada and forever alter the lives of Canadians.

What we were told was that in order to offset what was essentially an economic collapse on a international scale, that the federal government was going to offer Canadians a total debt relief. This is how it works: the federal government will offer to eliminate all personal debts (mortgages, loans, credit cards, etc) which all funding will be provided to Canada by the IMF under what will become known as the World Debt Reset program.

In exchange for acceptance of this total debt forgiveness the individual would forfeit ownership of any and all property and assets forever. The individual would also have to agree to partake in the COVID-19 and COVID-21 vaccination schedule, which would provide the individual with unrestricted travel and unrestricted living even under a full lock down (through the use of photo identification referred to as Canada’s HealthPass) .

Committee members asked who would become the owner of the forfeited property and assets in that scenario and what would happen to lenders or financial institutions, we were simply told “the World Debt Reset program will handle all of the details”.

Several committee members also questioned what would happen to individuals if they refused to participate in the World Debt Reset program, or the HealthPass, or the vaccination schedule, and the answer we got was very troubling. Essentially we were told it was our duty to make sure we came up with a plan to ensure that would never happen. We were told it was in the individuals best interest to participate.

When several committee members pushed relentlessly to get an answer we were told that those who refused would first live under the lock down restrictions indefinitely. And that over a short period of time as more Canadians transitioned into the debt forgiveness program, the ones who refused to participate would be deemed a public safety risk and would be relocated into isolation facilities. Once in those facilities they would be given two options, participate in the debt forgiveness program and be released, or stay indefinitely in the isolation facility under the classification of a serious public health risk and have all their assets seized.

So as you can imagine after hearing all of this it turned into quite the heated discussion and escalated beyond anything I’ve ever witnessed before. In the end it was implied by the PMO that the whole agenda will move forward no matter who agrees with it or not. That it wont just be Canada but in fact all nations will have similar roadmaps and agendas. That we need to take advantage of the situations before us to promote change on a grander scale for the betterment of everyone.

The members who were opposed and ones who brought up key issues that would arise from such a thing were completely ignored. Our opinions and concerns were ignored. We were simply told to just do it.

All I know is that I don’t like it and I think its going to place Canadians into a dark future.
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Promise me this then (as I'm guessing you're one of those who wears a mask in a car when you're the only occupant)... you'll let this all go in 8 months. Promise?
 Quoting: liber8tr


Actually I rarely use one and then for a long time did the chin-diaper thing, until the store guys started kicking people out. I wouldn't be able to drive with a mask, my glasses get all fogged up real quick. So annoying! Don't assume.

chuckle


The current infection rate is less than 1% in the USA. The death rate is .00163529411 (Based on 340,000,000 people).

I like my (everyone's) chances.
 Quoting: liber8tr


I do too, like I said it's up to each and every individual to decide on their own. As for the stats I used, I used the 1.81% deathrate figure from the worldmeter site, instead of some government statistic.

Death rate of people infected, not death rate of uninfected total population, mind you. Calculate it again based off all 320 million being infected for herd immunity.

This is just theory crafting for intellectual purposes, even Sweden abandoned it's herd immunity tactic.


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There is no Covid
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you are correct. yet it seems to matter little.
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I feel for you folk in the cities.. I can't even imagine what that must be like!
 Quoting: Alien Seb Fiend


The lockdowns and masks haven’t changed a thing, so obviously their methods don’t work, except for crippling businesses, and restricting peoples rights and personal freedoms.
 Quoting: LTHN.


We left the city 5 years ago. Partly due to the warnings to get out. Partly for personal reasons. I'm fine with being a hermit, was hermit by choice before the epidemic.

All of my friends in the city are suffering. They're all service industry, artists, musicians and local entertainment industry. The younger ones have been able to come up with creative ways to stay afloat. One older gentleman who is especially dear to me has nothing to fall back on. For him I weep. It's a helpless feeling, painful to not be able to do anything for them but pray.
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You do realize that prayer is the most powerful force in the universe, right?

When you pray from a sincere heart, you're asking God to directly intervene. YOU'RE GIVING GOD PERMISSION TO OVERRIDE YOUR FREE WILL AND INTERVENE. There is no more powerful force than God working through your life. So don't dismiss prayer as a last resort when all else fails -- use prayer as the first and best resort. That's why God gave it to us -- to use.

TL;DR: Prayer should always be your first response, not your last.
It only takes one.
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It's a helpless feeling, painful to not be able to do anything for them but pray.
 Quoting: Esther Wright


You do realize that prayer is the most powerful force in the universe, right?

When you pray from a sincere heart, you're asking God to directly intervene. YOU'RE GIVING GOD PERMISSION TO OVERRIDE YOUR FREE WILL AND INTERVENE. There is no more powerful force than God working through your life. So don't dismiss prayer as a last resort when all else fails -- use prayer as the first and best resort. That's why God gave it to us -- to use.

TL;DR: Prayer should always be your first response, not your last.
 Quoting: One Still Voice


Yes. Thank you for reminder. Constant prayer, running in the background of my mind. It has worked. Some of them have received blessings through prayer. Some of them have come back from the brink of death even. All Glory be to God. Thank you.
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It's a helpless feeling, painful to not be able to do anything for them but pray.
 Quoting: Esther Wright


You do realize that prayer is the most powerful force in the universe, right?

When you pray from a sincere heart, you're asking God to directly intervene. YOU'RE GIVING GOD PERMISSION TO OVERRIDE YOUR FREE WILL AND INTERVENE. There is no more powerful force than God working through your life. So don't dismiss prayer as a last resort when all else fails -- use prayer as the first and best resort. That's why God gave it to us -- to use.

TL;DR: Prayer should always be your first response, not your last.
 Quoting: One Still Voice


Yes. Thank you for reminder. Constant prayer, running in the background of my mind. It has worked. Some of them have received blessings through prayer. Some of them have come back from the brink of death even. All Glory be to God. Thank you.
 Quoting: Esther Wright


Amen!

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