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Everyone is free to believe what they wish according to Quran

 
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Everyone is free to believe what they wish according to Quran
Everyone is free to believe what they wish, according to Quran. This is the goal of the test world. To confront yourself.

Quran only allows a war of defense.

If you read the full of the verses, you will always see the struggle with the attackers in the defense battle.

Example;

2:190 Fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not transgress, God does not like the aggressors.

2:191 Fight them wherever you meet them, and expel them from where they expelled you, and know that persecution is worse than being killed. Do not fight them at the Restricted Temple unless they fight you in it; if they fight you then fight them. Thus is the reward of those who do not appreciate.

2:192 If they cease, then God is Forgiving, Compassionate.

2:193 Fight them so there is no more persecution, and so that the system is God's. If they cease, then there will be no aggression except against the wicked.

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Here again, He says, fight with the attackers.

But if you pull out a single verse. You make it look like saying the opposite.

And look at:

49:9 And if two parties of believers battle with each other, you shall reconcile them; but if one of them aggresses against the other, then you shall fight the one aggressing until it complies with the command of God. Once it complies, then you shall reconcile the two groups with justice, and be equitable; for God loves those who are equitable.

As you can see saying, if the attackers are Muslims, stop them too.

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What you say and reality are two different things.
You would be hung in a majority muslim country for saying such things as it is heresy.
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Re: Everyone is free to believe what they wish according to Quran
The Koran does say as you have written.



Sadly, many Muslims today don't seem to care about the spirit of the Koran --


as many Christians don't really follow the teachings of the New Testament and many J__'s don't follow the teachings of the Old Testament.


If we all followed our own scriptures we would all be better off, but...
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If a religion is superior, wouldn't it make sense that people would openly accept it without being forced or indoctrinated?
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Re: Everyone is free to believe what they wish according to Quran
The Koran does say as you have written.



Sadly, many Muslims today don't seem to care about the spirit of the Koran --


as many Christians don't really follow the teachings of the New Testament and many J__'s don't follow the teachings of the Old Testament.


If we all followed our own scriptures we would all be better off, but...
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


Well put.
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If the Quran says persecution is worse than death, then why do Islamic states heavily persecute women just because they have XX chromosomes?

Everyone’s focused on straight white males being misogynistic, but Islam is the most misogynistic thing on the planet.

Last Edited by Gabriel~ on 04/07/2021 02:58 PM
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So Mohammed sinned by forcing people to worship Allah?

I have never heard of this.
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So Mohammed.
 Quoting: Swamprat


Drop the hadiths.

This is lie.
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Re: Everyone is free to believe what they wish according to Quran
The Koran does say as you have written.



Sadly, many Muslims today don't seem to care about the spirit of the Koran --


as many Christians don't really follow the teachings of the New Testament and many J__'s don't follow the teachings of the Old Testament.


If we all followed our own scriptures we would all be better off, but...
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


I think the J—‘s do very well in NOT following the teachings of the OT which are of a genocidal war mongering god who gave them 613 commandments to follow, perhaps to drive them crazy.
That they are such sane and reasonable people today is to their credit.
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no killing of the infidels if they don't convert?
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Re: Everyone is free to believe what they wish according to Quran
The Koran does say as you have written.



Sadly, many Muslims today don't seem to care about the spirit of the Koran --


as many Christians don't really follow the teachings of the New Testament and many J__'s don't follow the teachings of the Old Testament.


If we all followed our own scriptures we would all be better off, but...
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


I think the J—‘s do very well in NOT following the teachings of the OT which are of a genocidal war mongering god who gave them 613 commandments to follow, perhaps to drive them crazy.
That they are such sane and reasonable people today is to their credit.
 Quoting: 936432979

The OT also teaches love for ones neighbors and treating the strangers in your midst well so...
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Re: Everyone is free to believe what they wish according to Quran
111. And they say: None entereth paradise unless he is a J__ or a Christian. These are their own desires. Say: Bring your proof (of what ye state) if you are truthful.

112. Nay but whosoever surrendereth his purpose to Allah while doing good, his reward is with his Lord; and there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve.


Surah II, "The Cow"



Do God's will.

Do good.

Follow the scriptures of your people.
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The Quran may say that, Islamic asshats do not. We shall discuss the use of the letter Q at a later date. I think we took out a trademark on the capitol Q, you may have to use lower case.
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Thread: Real Islam is only in Quran
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Re: Everyone is free to believe what they wish according to Quran
bump
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Extremists exist in all beliefs.. I have met some of the best..and some of the worst of all faiths. I may often generalize certain groups.. and I'm really not sorry about that..but I take a concerted effort to judge individuals based on their character.
Stand up and speak for truth..even when it's not popular..





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