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Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue

 
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
I'll watch this later. Sounds interesting.

I know that the best blue paint needed lapis lazuli, a very expensive material, not used much.
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
Cool beans!
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
Simple Bible text search, blue is mentioned 50 times.

First time, 3500 years ago

Exodus 25:4
New Revised Standard Version, Anglicised Catholic Edition
4 blue, purple, and crimson yarns and fine linen, goats’ hair,


etc.


He's using a bad translation.
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
Greeks not having a word for blue would have been a cultural leftover from the Purple Dawn age. Nobody would have seen blue during the Purple Dawn.
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
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Thank you for sharing, very interesting!
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
Must explain all the blue painted tiles in their mosaics and how Homer actually referred to the Ocean as blue in the Odyssey.

Got it......


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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
Simple Bible text search, blue is mentioned 50 times.

First time, 3500 years ago

Exodus 25:4
New Revised Standard Version, Anglicised Catholic Edition
4 blue, purple, and crimson yarns and fine linen, goats’ hair,


etc.


He's using a bad translation.
 Quoting: jlee2027



Not just the Greeks, all the Europeans couldn't see the blue

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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
the sky then was what, brown?

everybody keeping cooking and heating fires

lotsa smog
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
the sky then was what, brown?

everybody keeping cooking and heating fires

lotsa smog
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
And that is why they use repetitive words to mind program language and as a consequence the mind through the media.
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
And that is why they use repetitive words to mind program language and as a consequence the mind through the media.
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Makes sense.
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
They watched too much CNN. (Drum and cymbals)
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
"Black then white are all I see in my infancy
Red and yellow then came to be, reaching out to me
Lets me see"

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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
Must explain all the blue painted tiles in their mosaics and how Homer actually referred to the Ocean as blue in the Odyssey.

Got it......


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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
I'll watch this later. Sounds interesting.

I know that the best blue paint needed lapis lazuli, a very expensive material, not used much.
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That video is bogus and to assert that the ancient Greeks could not see Bue is simply proposterous.

It's also not true that Lapis Lazuli wasn't used much; it was actually used extensively in ancient Egypt in not only jewelry but also paint pigments used to cover tomb walls; and for that matter the Greeks and Romans used it as well. Want proof? Just take a look at the existing original murals from Pompeii.

Further, blue pigments were also extracted from sand along the beaches of the Red Sea. These were turned into the exquisite Roman blue glass that was so highly prized. So prized that it too was made into jewelry, primarily beads. A have a small string of them in my collection of
Roman antiquities.
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
I'll watch this later. Sounds interesting.

I know that the best blue paint needed lapis lazuli, a very expensive material, not used much.
 Quoting: Doctor Congo


That video is bogus and to assert that the ancient Greeks could not see Bue is simply proposterous.

It's also not true that Lapis Lazuli wasn't used much; it was actually used extensively in ancient Egypt in not only jewelry but also paint pigments used to cover tomb walls; and for that matter the Greeks and Romans used it as well. Want proof? Just take a look at the existing original murals from Pompeii.

Further, blue pigments were also extracted from sand along the beaches of the Red Sea. These were turned into the exquisite Roman blue glass that was so highly prized. So prized that it too was made into jewelry, primarily beads. A have a small string of them in my collection of
Roman antiquities.
 Quoting: GSB/LTD


The title is a little off.
It's not that they couldn't see it , it's that the name blue had little or no reference in ancient cultures and it was primarily seen as a shade of black.

Watching the video helps, just saying.
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
Moses stood on what looked like a bed of sapphire when he spoke to God on Mount Sinai. They didn't use an abstract color-word for it, but they probably experienced the blue color of sapphire the same as we do.

Or maybe they couldn't see it but we can, since God wrote that text that we read in Exodus.

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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
I'll watch this later. Sounds interesting.

I know that the best blue paint needed lapis lazuli, a very expensive material, not used much.
 Quoting: Doctor Congo


That video is bogus and to assert that the ancient Greeks could not see Bue is simply proposterous.

It's also not true that Lapis Lazuli wasn't used much; it was actually used extensively in ancient Egypt in not only jewelry but also paint pigments used to cover tomb walls; and for that matter the Greeks and Romans used it as well. Want proof? Just take a look at the existing original murals from Pompeii.

Further, blue pigments were also extracted from sand along the beaches of the Red Sea. These were turned into the exquisite Roman blue glass that was so highly prized. So prized that it too was made into jewelry, primarily beads. A have a small string of them in my collection of
Roman antiquities.
 Quoting: GSB/LTD


The title is a little off.
It's not that they couldn't see it , it's that the name blue had little or no reference in ancient cultures and it was primarily seen as a shade of black.

Watching the video helps, just saying.
 Quoting: PinkOrchid-#ALLSTOP


But they would certainly perceive the difference between day (blue sky) and night (black sky). That's about the most basic difference there is, and they certainly knew the difference between their experiences of day and night.
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
A good majority say this is false...must be...
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
Simple Bible text search, blue is mentioned 50 times.

First time, 3500 years ago

Exodus 25:4
New Revised Standard Version, Anglicised Catholic Edition
4 blue, purple, and crimson yarns and fine linen, goats’ hair,


etc.


He's using a bad translation.
 Quoting: jlee2027


Stone's H3br3w and English Old Testament says turquoise (t'cheleth). Blue would be "cachol".
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
Must explain all the blue painted tiles in their mosaics and how Homer actually referred to the Ocean as blue in the Odyssey.

Got it......


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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
What a load of bull.
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
I expect they could see blue as in the sky but were unable to make it as a dye in clothes say ....

I expect blue was made later when we started using chemicals to dry rather than animals or plant life .

Around 1800 green was popular on walls until they discovered that the arsenic in the colouring was killing people .They say that is what killed Napoleon ...but who knows for sure ?

In the renaissance they had blue paints for their pictures .

Think I will go and look it up.
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
Is this the B.. abylon bee now.... I mean... Really?
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
Blue dye made about 2,200 BC. ground limestone mixed with sand and copper was heated up .It was first synthetic dye .
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
Don't be silly, ancient Greeks never took the blue pill, only the Red.
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
Simple Bible text search, blue is mentioned 50 times.

First time, 3500 years ago

Exodus 25:4
New Revised Standard Version, Anglicised Catholic Edition
4 blue, purple, and crimson yarns and fine linen, goats’ hair,


etc.


He's using a bad translation.
 Quoting: jlee2027


Before that...


The first occurrence of the rainbow in the Bible was after the Flood,

“I set My rainbow in the cloud, and it shall be for the sign of the covenant between Me and the earth. It shall be, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the rainbow shall be seen in the cloud; and I will remember My covenant which is between Me and you and every living creature of all flesh; the waters shall never again become a flood to destroy all flesh. The rainbow shall be in the cloud, and I will look on it to remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is on the earth” (Genesis 9.13–16).
Romans 14:11 It is written:
“‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord,
‘every knee will bow before me;
every tongue will acknowledge God.

Revelation 20:15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
Here's an easy way to remember the rainbow colors and their order:

Just remember this: ROY G BIV.
The letters stand for the first letter of each color.
R is for red.
O is for orange.
Y is for yellow.
G is for green.
B is for blue.
I is for indigo.

V is for violet.


Rainbows appear in seven colors because water droplets break white sunlight into the seven colors of the spectrum (red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, violet). You can only see a rainbow if the Sun is behind you and the rain in front.
Romans 14:11 It is written:
“‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord,
‘every knee will bow before me;
every tongue will acknowledge God.

Revelation 20:15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.





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