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Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue

 
Newtome01

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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
I'll watch this later. Sounds interesting.

I know that the best blue paint needed lapis lazuli, a very expensive material, not used much.
 Quoting: Doctor Congo


That video is bogus and to assert that the ancient Greeks could not see Bue is simply proposterous.

It's also not true that Lapis Lazuli wasn't used much; it was actually used extensively in ancient Egypt in not only jewelry but also paint pigments used to cover tomb walls; and for that matter the Greeks and Romans used it as well. Want proof? Just take a look at the existing original murals from Pompeii.

Further, blue pigments were also extracted from sand along the beaches of the Red Sea. These were turned into the exquisite Roman blue glass that was so highly prized. So prized that it too was made into jewelry, primarily beads. A have a small string of them in my collection of
Roman antiquities.
 Quoting: GSB/LTD


The title is a little off.
It's not that they couldn't see it , it's that the name blue had little or no reference in ancient cultures and it was primarily seen as a shade of black.

Watching the video helps, just saying.
 Quoting: PinkOrchid-#ALLSTOP


But they would certainly perceive the difference between day (blue sky) and night (black sky). That's about the most basic difference there is, and they certainly knew the difference between their experiences of day and night.
 Quoting: oniongrass


The night sky is actually blue. Yes a very very deep blue. Go out at night and compare the sky to something you know is black.
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
You are literally trying to convince us that there were no blue eyed people LOL

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04/08/2021 03:12 AM
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
What a clickbait title. It's not because there is no word for blue that they couldn't couldn't see it.

Plenty of blue painted statues and buildings in ancient Greece. They didn't have a word for pink or orange neither, doesn't mean they couldn't see them.

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04/08/2021 03:15 AM
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
This kind of question that you present is a tarp.

Because first of all you start by forcing the assumption that ancient Greeks could not see blue. By that you force comments that must explain the question you asked, which is confined in an alleged result that for some reason you push.

Secondly you obvious try to analyze the thoughts of people and how they can spread through a supposed fact that if lot bait into it, then it will get reality and soon Worldwide all will try to explain minor parts of that fact, whole science, Politics, media and goes on, solutions will take place, even implemented at first in a choice way of form and then mandatory and at last the substance will be lost and reality will be fucked.

So, the actually question should rather be, why do you seek to fuck reality?
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
What a clickbait title. It's not because there is no word for blue that they couldn't couldn't see it.

Plenty of blue painted statues and buildings in ancient Greece. They didn't have a word for pink or orange neither, doesn't mean they couldn't see them.

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You started first right and then you got into the spider web that was created by the.

Same as what is happening now Globally. Logic has lost its meaning from that point. Therefore by following your comment through logic is a way of submitting to the bait posted.
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
Nice Vid

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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
 Quoting: Naunet


Women can see more shades of colors because they were foragers while men were hunters. It was a matter of life and death being able to tell the difference between edible vs poisonous berries that differ only slightly in color.
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 Quoting: not_A_number


ok, seen the whole video, it is dumb, only a moran would publish such video, good luck on him.

Secondly, the question is not accurate, since the video tries to explain something through accuracy that follows logic, the one that made the video asks an inaccurate and not logical question.

it is inaccurate because as in that video posted, everyone understand different the colors and depths of the color, in regards with the way he is raised, the place he is and goes on.

It is not logical since everyone can see blue mostly, however not everyone can express the blue color.

In short, this video posted is just trash, because people by watching it, instantly analyze it as logical, but without seeing the illogical in it, by taking it as logical and so not bothering on correcting the illogical, since the main point is understood, however what the OP of that video wanted to do, is to push people to concentrate after the illogical and he succeeded.

He might have done it unconsciously, through the lack of education probably, or consciously, as for the OP of this thread with this Subject, it is the same, though do believe that it was done consciously.
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
Greece is an island. It's surrounded by water.
The bluest water in the world actually.
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
Yep they were totally sick of blue, dont forget the bluest blue daytime sky as well as the sea like you said.
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
Dork with a baseball cap is talking, lets listen
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
Simple Bible text search, blue is mentioned 50 times.

First time, 3500 years ago

Exodus 25:4
New Revised Standard Version, Anglicised Catholic Edition
4 blue, purple, and crimson yarns and fine linen, goats’ hair,


etc.


He's using a bad translation.
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Not just the Greeks, all the Europeans couldn't see the blue

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 Quoting: not_A_number


Go look at the eye color in one of the oldest people in the Middle East, out of UR I think, it is blue, they had blue eyes in the statues, the Gilgamesh saga mentions it in a stone that is blue color, very pretty deep blue. Not having a name for it does not mean they can't see it, they can say a name if they had not named it.

There is also something to not being able to spot something people have never seen before. Native American's by the most part didn't see the ships coming, a special person was set to look for anything different coming from the oceans. Some people notice things others do not, it is the same today.

I forgot, maybe a lot of people had color blindness, it came from somewhere, the color blindness people have even today.

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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
really dumb....is this what our colleges are producing as the students' theses now?

low level and nonsense

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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
Watch the blue waters in Greece and how the civil protect employees are enjoying their time in the beach, without masks or any safety measure, because Greeks have won the battle with the virus.

And do not forget the self sacrifice of those Government employees , of civil protect in Greece, that put their life in the first line to be sure beaches are safe for the citizens when they open.

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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
Blue exists as a light wave of 450-485 nanometers...Just because they didn't have a grunt or sound for it, doesn't mean the color was not seen...
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
I did find it interesting, however! It supports the theory of FBT or Fitness Before Truth...we had no survival reason to identify Blue...no Blue animals or food, so why bother?

We only see what is needed for survival...We do not see objective reality...There really is no spoon...
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And I still call Pink, Red and people correct me...I am partially colorblind, so I don't argue...but Pink is just watered down Red!!
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04/08/2021 05:52 AM
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
How do people honestly still give evolution credibility?

Without a trace of irony say ‘30 million years ago’ and think they know anything about such a vast gap in time.

Just another SCIENCE ROCKS !! video for the rubbish.

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CelestialMechanic

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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
They literally had a word for blue which you all know as cyan, but for them it was dark blue

[link to en.wiktionary.org (secure)]

or

[link to el.wiktionary.org (secure)]

It might have not been used in Homer's poems but it doesn't mean that it was non existent.
not_A_number  (OP)

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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
They literally had a word for blue which you all know as cyan, but for them it was dark blue

[link to en.wiktionary.org (secure)]

or

[link to el.wiktionary.org (secure)]

It might have not been used in Homer's poems but it doesn't mean that it was non existent.
 Quoting: CelestialMechanic


Κυάνεος and the Debate about Dark Blue

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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
They literally had a word for blue which you all know as cyan, but for them it was dark blue

[link to en.wiktionary.org (secure)]

or

[link to el.wiktionary.org (secure)]

It might have not been used in Homer's poems but it doesn't mean that it was non existent.
 Quoting: CelestialMechanic


Κυάνεος and the Debate about Dark Blue

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 Quoting: not_A_number


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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
I expect it is because the Earth is square
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
The colour time line is real, but the video itself is clickbait
Occluded spectacles, I see stars

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04/08/2021 09:14 AM
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
Towards the end of the video he said that some populations saw the sky as almost black - more like a navy. Can you imagine? I cannot imagine what life would have been like without seeing the gorgeous blue skies and azure oceans.

Good find, OP. I've never heard this before.
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Re: Why the ancient Greeks couldn't see blue
Towards the end of the video he said that some populations saw the sky as almost black - more like a navy. Can you imagine? I cannot imagine what life would have been like without seeing the gorgeous blue skies and azure oceans.

Good find, OP. I've never heard this before.
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The whole Eastern border of Bulgaria is determined by the Black sea. Look at Wikipedia for Historical names and etymology of the Black sea.





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