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BREAKING: White House announces 6 'initial' executive actions on gun control

 
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Documented, foreign terrorist, cartel criminal's, game members, coming across Our border and they want to take away Our defensive weapons!
Total Sickening!
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Here it is. Now lets see if any of these big talking so called patriots do anything. They had a golden opportunity at the capital but acted like damn tourists instead.

Until people stand up this will get worse. These are minor really the brace BS has been questionable from day one and the ghost gun shit just effects probably a handful of dumb asses. But if no one or no states stands up now its over.

Everyone should sue SB tactical because they alone have just created a hugh headache for millions. ANd they knew this brace bs was sketchy at best but continued to market these.

No surprise here this has been on the chopping block for years and years. ATF just didnt know how to unfuck themselves from these mistakes. SO he really didnt do much of anything.
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Sue sb tactical? I think you have your anger misplaced it's Not their fault.dumb asses ? For building a gun?fuck off.

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Asking for a friend,
So now every gun owner house has a chance to become “Waco Tx”?
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I thought Biden was against Executive orders ?.

Funny way of showing it, as he signs one after another.Too push through his nasty undemocratic commie laws.

The Guy is more of a Dictator than Xi.

He is abusing the usage.

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At the press meeting with either psaki or obiden ,
The people there should start yelling really fucking
loud border security first .

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COME IN MY House uninvited it will not end well for WHOEVER IT IS.
time to drain the swamp, release ALL OBOZO RECORDS.
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Time for tar, feathers, and ...
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Does any of this have any real world effect on actual humans?
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1. The Justice Department, within 30 days, will issue a proposed rule to help stop the proliferation of “ghost guns.”

2. The Justice Department, within 60 days, will issue a proposed rule to make clear when a device marketed as a stabilizing brace effectively turns a pistol into a short-barreled rifle subject to the requirements of the National Firearms Act

3. The Justice Department, within 60 days, will publish model “red flag” legislation for states.

4. The Administration is investing in evidence-based community violence interventions

5. The Justice Department will issue an annual report on firearms trafficking.

6. The President will nominate David Chipman to serve as Director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms.
 Quoting: <~>


Tbh, this sounds like a lot of lip service to lefties without any real teeth, which is a good thing.
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Bidan is not the President...

His statements are meaningless, just like him.
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Fk them, it they didn't have a few so called reporters to print their sht paid for by Soros and someone would just fkng take their microphone away, we wouldn't have to listen to the sht they spew from their rest home in their bankrupt gated community. In the meantime in Mar-a Largo President Trump is
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RED. FLAG. LAWS.


You know who has red flags?


COMMUNISTS


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I saw the writing on the wall a long time ago and changed my set up completely. Sold all my ARs and pistol variants, sold ALL my semi auto firearms, and now have a basic 4 gun setup...bolt action hunting rifle .308, a .357 revolver for home protection, an action lever also chambered in .357, and a plinking .22 for practice and small game. All non threatening, and arguably the last firearms that will be targeted.

If I ever needed a military type rifle, for a military type of engagement, i’ll Take one off a dead soldier and use it. Until then, I’m fine with what I have.
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Gasp! you have a Heavy Caliber Sniper Rifle that can fire military armor piercing bullets?????

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The President will nominate David Chipman to serve as Director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms.


David Chipman was incident control leader for the massacre of women and children in the Branch Dividian incident in Waco Texas.wtfdid
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A real leader....yikes
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1. The Justice Department, within 30 days, will issue a proposed rule to help stop the proliferation of “ghost guns.”

2. The Justice Department, within 60 days, will issue a proposed rule to make clear when a device marketed as a stabilizing brace effectively turns a pistol into a short-barreled rifle subject to the requirements of the National Firearms Act

3. The Justice Department, within 60 days, will publish model “red flag” legislation for states.

4. The Administration is investing in evidence-based community violence interventions

5. The Justice Department will issue an annual report on firearms trafficking.

6. The President will nominate David Chipman to serve as Director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms.
 Quoting: <~>


Tbh, this sounds like a lot of lip service to lefties without any real teeth, which is a good thing.
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That's what it looks like to me too.
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Since when does the justice department have the power to create law?

Their job is to enforce existing law and they’re not doing that.
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Say Bye-Bye to your AR pistols!
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Not necessarily, just take the stabilizing brace off and run a bare buffer tube. His 'proposed rule" as it states, clearly mentions braces.

Now granted, they could just say that applies to ALL ar's with a short barrel, but meh, most of us are ignoring him anyway.
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What I'm reading is this: The Justice Department will PROPOSE a rule to change certain things. These things are managed by the ATF. If the ATF chooses to implement the rule, it will most certainly be challenged in court where it will need to explain why it's changed its position based on a request from the president.

If the ATF had had a long standing position that the laws permit XY & Z then they suddenly changed them, they'll need a good reason.

I don't see how this ccould stand. It circumvents legislation and I cannot imagine a court disagreeing.
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1. The Justice Department, within 30 days, will issue a proposed rule to help stop the proliferation of “ghost guns.”

2. The Justice Department, within 60 days, will issue a proposed rule to make clear when a device marketed as a stabilizing brace effectively turns a pistol into a short-barreled rifle subject to the requirements of the National Firearms Act

3. The Justice Department, within 60 days, will publish model “red flag” legislation for states.

4. The Administration is investing in evidence-based community violence interventions

5. The Justice Department will issue an annual report on firearms trafficking.

6. The President will nominate David Chipman to serve as Director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms.
 Quoting: <~>


What will any of that do? Time for the mental institutions attendance lists be cross checked with the FBI firearms background check. That’s still based on an honor code system that can be factually backed up.
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1. The Justice Department, within 30 days, will issue a proposed rule to help stop the proliferation of “ghost guns.”

2. The Justice Department, within 60 days, will issue a proposed rule to make clear when a device marketed as a stabilizing brace effectively turns a pistol into a short-barreled rifle subject to the requirements of the National Firearms Act

3. The Justice Department, within 60 days, will publish model “red flag” legislation for states.

4. The Administration is investing in evidence-based community violence interventions

5. The Justice Department will issue an annual report on firearms trafficking.

6. The President will nominate David Chipman to serve as Director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms.
 Quoting: <~>


What will any of that do? Time for the mental institutions attendance lists be cross checked with the FBI firearms background check. That’s still based on an honor code system that can be factually backed up.
 Quoting: Truth be known


Assuming that 5 Million people would be required to get tax stamps for pistol braces at $300 each that is $1.5B in revenue for the fed?!? Not that anyone would comply, but just saying...
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Since when does the justice department have the power to create law?

Their job is to enforce existing law and they’re not doing that.
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Say Bye-Bye to your AR pistols!
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The way they wrote condition II would not apply to AR pistols, because an AR frame is originally a rifle being converted to a pistol and its by removing a brace.

How condition II reads now is if you take a pistol, say a 9mm Glock, and mount a brace that allows you to shoulder it then it say it would be considered an SBR, which would require a NFA Title III stamp.
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1. The Justice Department, within 30 days, will issue a proposed rule to help stop the proliferation of “ghost guns.”

2. The Justice Department, within 60 days, will issue a proposed rule to make clear when a device marketed as a stabilizing brace effectively turns a pistol into a short-barreled rifle subject to the requirements of the National Firearms Act

3. The Justice Department, within 60 days, will publish model “red flag” legislation for states.

4. The Administration is investing in evidence-based community violence interventions

5. The Justice Department will issue an annual report on firearms trafficking.

6. The President will nominate David Chipman to serve as Director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms.
 Quoting: <~>


What will any of that do? Time for the mental institutions attendance lists be cross checked with the FBI firearms background check. That’s still based on an honor code system that can be factually backed up.
 Quoting: Truth be known


Assuming that 5 Million people would be required to get tax stamps for pistol braces at $300 each that is $1.5B in revenue for the fed?!? Not that anyone would comply, but just saying...
 Quoting: Armchair General

I guess this way is more profitable but it won’t solve any problems.
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