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Derek Chauvin Trial - Day 9 - Livestream

 
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They are going to call another witness. He has a flight out tonight.
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This guy has the old fashioned combover my grandfather’s generation had. It’s the kind where you have wisps of hair pulled over in a silly attempt to hide baldness.
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If my hair ever looked like that I would simply shave my whole head!


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No ratio we don’t know what his standard use was!

Plus there could have been multiple dose like one two hours before and then all the pills he swallowed after the cops came.
 Quoting: Sardonic Dadaist


i can guarantee you his standard use would of been of the level of at least someone who was able to still drive.

swallowing extra pills wouldn't make a difference unless they had entered the blood already. so if they are still in the stomach and not detectable in the blood, they can't also contribute to death, because, if it's not in the blood yet it can't kill you.
 Quoting: ID2268


Blood levels may not be everything. I get that, in general, the blood level may be a good indicator. But is that all there is to the issue? For instance, does the rapidity of administration of a drug matter? Does your blood level shooting up to some level make a difference as compared to slowly being raised to that level?
 Quoting: Corporal Punishment


the point is, until it gets into the blood it's not ingested yet.

your stomach contents are outside of the body.

if it isn't absorbed into the blood, it's not doing anything yet.
 Quoting: ID2268


Who says he swallowed them? If he chewed them up instead, wouldn’t it hit his blood stream quicker, having absorbed the drug though the blood vessels in his mouth, his tongue?
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Blood levels may not be everything. I get that, in general, the blood level may be a good indicator. But is that all there is to the issue? For instance, does the rapidity of administration of a drug matter? Does your blood level shooting up to some level make a difference as compared to slowly being raised to that level?
 Quoting: Corporal Punishment


the point is, until it gets into the blood it's not ingested yet.

your stomach contents are outside of the body.

if it isn't absorbed into the blood, it's not doing anything yet.
 Quoting: ID2268


The point is it was slowly being absorbed raising over the 30 minutes he was interacting with police. Raising beyond his tolerance level.
 Quoting: Sardonic Dadaist


you think his tolerance level as in his required dose to overdose and die was half that of the average found with those stopped for a DUI and still driving? that's a really really long stretch you're going for there.
 Quoting: ID2268


Also it’s not the average stopped for dui, it’s the average in THEIR statistics.....

Anyone can present evidence like that...

Haven’t you ever heard the term “figures lie and liars figure”?
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If my hair ever looked like that I would simply shave my whole head!


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It looks so dumb....
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This guy has the old fashioned combover my grandfather’s generation had. It’s the kind where you have wisps of hair pulled over in a silly attempt to hide baldness.
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rofl
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If my hair ever looked like that I would simply shave my whole head!


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Yeah I don’t get it. It doesn’t look good. It doesn’t hide anything. It requires a lot of work to keep up and it falls apart under a strong wind.
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the point is, until it gets into the blood it's not ingested yet.

your stomach contents are outside of the body.

if it isn't absorbed into the blood, it's not doing anything yet.
 Quoting: ID2268


The point is it was slowly being absorbed raising over the 30 minutes he was interacting with police. Raising beyond his tolerance level.
 Quoting: Sardonic Dadaist


you think his tolerance level as in his required dose to overdose and die was half that of the average found with those stopped for a DUI and still driving? that's a really really long stretch you're going for there.
 Quoting: ID2268


It doesn’t matter. Multiple people have died with 11 ng/ml of fentanyl in their system....
 Quoting: <~>


as far as the jury are aware, according to the evidence presented to them. the average amount for death was over 4 times higher than 11 ng/ml found in his blood.

so af far as the jury know, there is no doubt. no one has presented any evidence to them to show he could die with .11 in his blood.
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i can guarantee you his standard use would of been of the level of at least someone who was able to still drive.

swallowing extra pills wouldn't make a difference unless they had entered the blood already. so if they are still in the stomach and not detectable in the blood, they can't also contribute to death, because, if it's not in the blood yet it can't kill you.
 Quoting: ID2268


Blood levels may not be everything. I get that, in general, the blood level may be a good indicator. But is that all there is to the issue? For instance, does the rapidity of administration of a drug matter? Does your blood level shooting up to some level make a difference as compared to slowly being raised to that level?
 Quoting: Corporal Punishment


the point is, until it gets into the blood it's not ingested yet.

your stomach contents are outside of the body.

if it isn't absorbed into the blood, it's not doing anything yet.
 Quoting: ID2268


Who says he swallowed them? If he chewed them up instead, wouldn’t it hit his blood stream quicker, having absorbed the drug though the blood vessels in his mouth, his tongue?
 Quoting: Otis B. Driftwood


if it hit the bloodstream it would be detectable in the bloodstream. regardless of where it is ingested into the body.
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"Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others."

Everyone has to work out their own salvation.

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Obviously there are too many boot lickers on GLP, since 90% of the folks want the cHop to be acquitted...the policemen, saying in plurality, because all three of them participated in the murder, held their knees on the dude 3 minutes long after he stopped breathing, instead of easing the situation minutes after he was on the ground in handcuffs

fentanyl or not, their immature, racist obviously actions, have enhanced whatever Floyd was on and that contributed to his death...they're guilty as littler children poking their fingers in a jar full of candies

i'm White btw, Conservative, Christian, so GTFO with your TDS bandwagon idiocracies
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this is my take

i don't think the drugs killed him

i don't think the knee on his back killed him.
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This expert seems like a bit of a goofball. But he doesn’t seem as crusty and annoying as the first medical witness from this morning.
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Blood levels may not be everything. I get that, in general, the blood level may be a good indicator. But is that all there is to the issue? For instance, does the rapidity of administration of a drug matter? Does your blood level shooting up to some level make a difference as compared to slowly being raised to that level?
 Quoting: Corporal Punishment


the point is, until it gets into the blood it's not ingested yet.

your stomach contents are outside of the body.

if it isn't absorbed into the blood, it's not doing anything yet.
 Quoting: ID2268


The point is it was slowly being absorbed raising over the 30 minutes he was interacting with police. Raising beyond his tolerance level.
 Quoting: Sardonic Dadaist


you think his tolerance level as in his required dose to overdose and die was half that of the average found with those stopped for a DUI and still driving? that's a really really long stretch you're going for there.
 Quoting: ID2268


You don’t understand what a ratio is, I’m sorry. Someone taking one pill converting half has the same ratio as someone taking 100 and converting 50 before they die.
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This guy has the old fashioned combover my grandfather’s generation had. It’s the kind where you have wisps of hair pulled over in a silly attempt to hide baldness.
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$300 an hour? I’m in the wrong profession!
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this is my take

i don't think the drugs killed him

i don't think the knee on his back killed him.
 Quoting: ID2268


Then that’s all they need and the defense hasn’t even got a turn.

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He had a fucking heart attack.
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This expert seems like a bit of a goofball. But he doesn’t seem as crusty and annoying as the first medical witness from this morning.
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He died of death.
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this is my take

i don't think the drugs killed him

i don't think the knee on his back killed him.
 Quoting: ID2268


I'd say reasonable doubt has been established for both now.
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I doubt that is even a diagnosis. Also isn’t he in toxicology and unqualified to make anatomy based diagnosis if there even are any....
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I doubt that is even a diagnosis. Also isn’t he in toxicology and unqualified to make anatomy based diagnosis if there even are any....
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Also was he at the scene monitoring the patient while the death occurred. How can he make a determination without monitoring and physical inspection for signs and symptoms of conditions???
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I doubt that is even a diagnosis. Also isn’t he in toxicology and unqualified to make anatomy based diagnosis if there even are any....
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Have you been listening to this case at all. Almost every Medical person has talked about it.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
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70-80% obstruction of arteries
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Nah man, Dr. Baden said he wishes he had this guy's arteries.

Then again.. Dr. Baden is 86 years old





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