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BBQ BOY™
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Soap
User ID: 25346721 United States 04/08/2021 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nelson will be all over the drug aspect "Dr. Tobin, could enough fentanyl in one's system to kill three horses also kill a human?" "Yes." "The defense has no more use for this witness." Well they should have followed protocol and turned him to his side when Officer Lane mentioned it. If they heard him say I ate pills they should have given Narcan. All Officers in Minneapolis were trained in 2018; the police medical trainer said all Officers have Narcan in their vehicle. When Floyd was arrested in 2019 and couldn't breath the officers were able to get him help. Chauvin wanted to show he had the power. Nothing about his actions show he was hyper-vigilant towards the crowd. He's guilty. When you choose to stand up for truth it will make most people uneasy, because it contradicts their own wisdom and mindset, and most people do not like it when this happens. Truth will rock the boat, it will force changes, it will purge everything that is not rooted in [and founded on] truth, but it is always for good. Regardless of the opposition and short term setback that truth may suffer, and whether or not it can find someone who is willing to stand up for it, truth will ultimately win. |
The Daddylorian
User ID: 79563476 United States 04/08/2021 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well they should have followed protocol and turned him to his side when Officer Lane mentioned it. If they heard him say I ate pills they should have given Narcan. All Officers in Minneapolis were trained in 2018; the police medical trainer said all Officers have Narcan in their vehicle. When Floyd was arrested in 2019 and couldn't breath the officers were able to get him help. Chauvin wanted to show he had the power. Nothing about his actions show he was hyper-vigilant towards the crowd. He's guilty. You make an assumption about his motivation which you have zero evidence of. Last Edited by Princess of Discipline on 04/08/2021 12:03 PM Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. Or something |
BBQ BOY™
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BBQ BOY™
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some_guy89704
User ID: 12248801 United States 04/08/2021 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The jury has to be seeing thru this redundant medical jargon when in fact even the slowest among them must know opiates restrict ones breathing... Quoting: Don Draper from Nantucket C'mon man! The problem is that the dr. would sound compelling to a "simple" jury, if you know what I mean. The Jury https://imgur.com/a/ZvvtRlT He's screwed regardless with that jury make-up. Only one of those jurors will be willing to listen to facts of the case and not make a judgment on emotion. |
Soap
User ID: 25346721 United States 04/08/2021 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Amazing that this doctor didn't find it important to mention that a fentanyl overdose would contribute to shallow breathing and the death of floyd. He is putting all blame on physical restraint and not the coctail of drugs. He essentially impeached himself and he will get destroyed on cross examination. Quoting: Bloody Peasant! I had my son put me in this position and lift my arms behind me. It did nothing to impair my breathing. This is total bullshit. And my son is 23, 240 LBS and 6'2". C'mon man.... I call bullsheet. It would have impaired your breathing sum what. Even when crowder demonstrated, he needed his friend to move his knee to his back and not the neck. Chauvin didn't have his toes on the ground. https://twitter.com/_/status/1380188531881095168 When you choose to stand up for truth it will make most people uneasy, because it contradicts their own wisdom and mindset, and most people do not like it when this happens. Truth will rock the boat, it will force changes, it will purge everything that is not rooted in [and founded on] truth, but it is always for good. Regardless of the opposition and short term setback that truth may suffer, and whether or not it can find someone who is willing to stand up for it, truth will ultimately win. |
18328
User ID: 80165748 United States 04/08/2021 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am just wondering if all he says is completely true, why don't more people die from sleeping on their stomachs? I am not discounting the knee on the shoulder/neck, but then again since there was no damage caused due to this, he is saying St George died because he was prone?? |
dmefoc23
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Simple27
User ID: 79731244 United States 04/08/2021 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well they should have followed protocol and turned him to his side when Officer Lane mentioned it. If they heard him say I ate pills they should have given Narcan. All Officers in Minneapolis were trained in 2018; the police medical trainer said all Officers have Narcan in their vehicle. Quoting: Soap When Floyd was arrested in 2019 and couldn't breath the officers were able to get him help. Chauvin wanted to show he had the power. Nothing about his actions show he was hyper-vigilant towards the crowd. He's guilty. Guilty of negligence? Or guilty of murder? ~*Ride the Wave*~ |
18328
User ID: 80165748 United States 04/08/2021 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Amazing that this doctor didn't find it important to mention that a fentanyl overdose would contribute to shallow breathing and the death of floyd. He is putting all blame on physical restraint and not the coctail of drugs. He essentially impeached himself and he will get destroyed on cross examination. Quoting: Bloody Peasant! I had my son put me in this position and lift my arms behind me. It did nothing to impair my breathing. This is total bullshit. And my son is 23, 240 LBS and 6'2". C'mon man.... I call bullsheet. It would have impaired your breathing sum what. Even when crowder demonstrated, he needed his friend to move his knee to his back and not the neck. Chauvin didn't have his toes on the ground. https://twitter.com/_/status/1380188531881095168 You are welcome to your opinion, but obviously I am not dead, am I? And then again I don't use Fentanyl either. Fair enough? |
BBQ BOY™
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some_guy89704
User ID: 12248801 United States 04/08/2021 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well they should have followed protocol and turned him to his side when Officer Lane mentioned it. If they heard him say I ate pills they should have given Narcan. All Officers in Minneapolis were trained in 2018; the police medical trainer said all Officers have Narcan in their vehicle. Quoting: Soap When Floyd was arrested in 2019 and couldn't breath the officers were able to get him help. Chauvin wanted to show he had the power. Nothing about his actions show he was hyper-vigilant towards the crowd. He's guilty. Guilty of negligence? Or guilty of murder? Negligence sure. Murder no. He's going to be convicted with that jury though. |
Simple27
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Soap
User ID: 25346721 United States 04/08/2021 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well they should have followed protocol and turned him to his side when Officer Lane mentioned it. If they heard him say I ate pills they should have given Narcan. All Officers in Minneapolis were trained in 2018; the police medical trainer said all Officers have Narcan in their vehicle. When Floyd was arrested in 2019 and couldn't breath the officers were able to get him help. Chauvin wanted to show he had the power. Nothing about his actions show he was hyper-vigilant towards the crowd. He's guilty. You make an assumption about his motivation which you have zero evidence of. Due to the the fact they won't allow Chauvin's past use of force to be on trial they can't prove motive. Also, Chauvin lied and said he didn't know Floyd worked with him. If he didn't lie what a horrible police officer not looking at his surroundings. If something went down in the club he would have just assumed everyone was a suspect?? When you choose to stand up for truth it will make most people uneasy, because it contradicts their own wisdom and mindset, and most people do not like it when this happens. Truth will rock the boat, it will force changes, it will purge everything that is not rooted in [and founded on] truth, but it is always for good. Regardless of the opposition and short term setback that truth may suffer, and whether or not it can find someone who is willing to stand up for it, truth will ultimately win. |
Herr Decider
User ID: 80225656 United States 04/08/2021 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nelson will be all over the drug aspect Quoting: The Daddylorian "Dr. Tobin, could enough fentanyl in one's system to kill three horses also kill a human?" "Yes." "The defense has no more use for this witness." Well they should have followed protocol and turned him to his side when Officer Lane mentioned it. If they heard him say I ate pills they should have given Narcan. All Officers in Minneapolis were trained in 2018; the police medical trainer said all Officers have Narcan in their vehicle. When Floyd was arrested in 2019 and couldn't breath the officers were able to get him help. Chauvin wanted to show he had the power. Nothing about his actions show he was hyper-vigilant towards the crowd. He's guilty. No Consider the lowest criminal homicide charge is negligent homicide, which is lower than involuntary manslaughter. Generally, negligent homicide is when a person knowingly commits an action without being fully aware of its risks. This is the best they could get him on with a crafty prosecuting attny. But I don't even agree with that verdict. Chauvin may have even been somewhat aware of the risk of the neck hold but that was highly mitigated by the context of the situation. In his mind he had little choice but to engage as such. If he and the other officers were aware of opiate use and forgot their training to use Narcan in an emotionally charged situation where the perp was combative, that does not rise to negligent homicide. If someone could prove they knew he was in opioid OD and intentionally withheld available Narcan, THAT WOULD BE manslaughter but good luck proving that intent. Last Edited by Augmentalist on 04/08/2021 12:20 PM Augmented by Grace |
BBQ BOY™
(OP) User ID: 72493816 United States 04/08/2021 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well they should have followed protocol and turned him to his side when Officer Lane mentioned it. If they heard him say I ate pills they should have given Narcan. All Officers in Minneapolis were trained in 2018; the police medical trainer said all Officers have Narcan in their vehicle. When Floyd was arrested in 2019 and couldn't breath the officers were able to get him help. Chauvin wanted to show he had the power. Nothing about his actions show he was hyper-vigilant towards the crowd. He's guilty. You make an assumption about his motivation which you have zero evidence of. Due to the the fact they won't allow Chauvin's past use of force to be on trial they can't prove motive. Also, Chauvin lied and said he didn't know Floyd worked with him. If he didn't lie what a horrible police officer not looking at his surroundings. If something went down in the club he would have just assumed everyone was a suspect?? Chauvin did not work inside the club, he was one of seventeen office that were on a rotation basis outside the club. The owner made this statement, she said she doubted their paths had ever crossed. "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
Lady Jayne Smith
Forum Administrator 04/08/2021 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am just wondering if all he says is completely true, why don't more people die from sleeping on their stomachs? Quoting: 18328 I am not discounting the knee on the shoulder/neck, but then again since there was no damage caused due to this, he is saying St George died because he was prone?? I sleep on my stomach every night. Usually with Mr. LJS's leg across my 110lb body. Still alive. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
BBQ BOY™
(OP) User ID: 72493816 United States 04/08/2021 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well they should have followed protocol and turned him to his side when Officer Lane mentioned it. If they heard him say I ate pills they should have given Narcan. All Officers in Minneapolis were trained in 2018; the police medical trainer said all Officers have Narcan in their vehicle. When Floyd was arrested in 2019 and couldn't breath the officers were able to get him help. Chauvin wanted to show he had the power. Nothing about his actions show he was hyper-vigilant towards the crowd. He's guilty. You make an assumption about his motivation which you have zero evidence of. Due to the the fact they won't allow Chauvin's past use of force to be on trial they can't prove motive. Also, Chauvin lied and said he didn't know Floyd worked with him. If he didn't lie what a horrible police officer not looking at his surroundings. If something went down in the club he would have just assumed everyone was a suspect?? Chauvin did not work inside the club, he was one of seventeen officers that were on a rotation basis outside the club. The owner made this statement, she said she doubted their paths had ever crossed. Last Edited by BBQ BOY™ on 04/08/2021 12:19 PM "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
BBQ BOY™
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BBQ BOY™
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Revbo™
User ID: 80152479 United States 04/08/2021 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am just wondering if all he says is completely true, why don't more people die from sleeping on their stomachs? Quoting: 18328 I am not discounting the knee on the shoulder/neck, but then again since there was no damage caused due to this, he is saying St George died because he was prone?? I sleep on my stomach every night. Usually with Mr. LJS's leg across my 110lb body. Still alive. Is that just how he ends up while asleep or is that intentional? How do you sleep like that? My older kid slept with us for months while my wife was pregnant with her little sister, and she ended up like that every night with her legs sprawled out over me. I couldn't sleep that way and ended up on the couch at 2:00 am most nights. John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78075987 United States 04/08/2021 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well they should have followed protocol and turned him to his side when Officer Lane mentioned it. If they heard him say I ate pills they should have given Narcan. All Officers in Minneapolis were trained in 2018; the police medical trainer said all Officers have Narcan in their vehicle. When Floyd was arrested in 2019 and couldn't breath the officers were able to get him help. Chauvin wanted to show he had the power. Nothing about his actions show he was hyper-vigilant towards the crowd. He's guilty. You make an assumption about his motivation which you have zero evidence of. Due to the the fact they won't allow Chauvin's past use of force to be on trial they can't prove motive. Also, Chauvin lied and said he didn't know Floyd worked with him. If he didn't lie what a horrible police officer not looking at his surroundings. If something went down in the club he would have just assumed everyone was a suspect?? When during the trial have they discussed Chauvin & Floyd working together? I must have missed that..... |
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BBQ BOY™
(OP) User ID: 72493816 United States 04/08/2021 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well they should have followed protocol and turned him to his side when Officer Lane mentioned it. If they heard him say I ate pills they should have given Narcan. All Officers in Minneapolis were trained in 2018; the police medical trainer said all Officers have Narcan in their vehicle. When Floyd was arrested in 2019 and couldn't breath the officers were able to get him help. Chauvin wanted to show he had the power. Nothing about his actions show he was hyper-vigilant towards the crowd. He's guilty. You make an assumption about his motivation which you have zero evidence of. Due to the the fact they won't allow Chauvin's past use of force to be on trial they can't prove motive. Also, Chauvin lied and said he didn't know Floyd worked with him. If he didn't lie what a horrible police officer not looking at his surroundings. If something went down in the club he would have just assumed everyone was a suspect?? When during the trial have they discussed Chauvin & Floyd working together? I must have missed that..... No that was on a MSM interview done shortly after this all happened. Last Edited by BBQ BOY™ on 04/08/2021 12:30 PM "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
ITSARICHMANSGAME
User ID: 78068491 United States 04/08/2021 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The jury has to be seeing thru this redundant medical jargon when in fact even the slowest among them must know opiates restrict ones breathing... Quoting: Don Draper from Nantucket C'mon man! The problem is that the dr. would sound compelling to a "simple" jury, if you know what I mean. The Jury https://imgur.com/a/ZvvtRlT This doesn't appear to be a jury of Chauvin's peers. The more I know, the crazier I appear to be. "THE ONLY WAY TO DEAL WITH AN UNFREE WORLD IS TO BECOME SO ABSOLUTELY FREE THAT YOUR VERY EXISTENCE IS AN ACT OF REBELLION" -ALBERT CAMUS No brains, no pain. The Difference Between Stupidity and Genius Is That Genius Has Its Limits |
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Bloody Peasant!
User ID: 75284939 United States 04/08/2021 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Witness and prosecutor brought up ME report so drugs should be on the table for cross This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it. -Admiral Josh Painter The past was alterable. The past never had been altered. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia. -Orwell Bloody Peasant |
BBQ BOY™
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