How do flat earthers explain the opposite seasons in the Southern Hemisphere? | |
Catnip
User ID: 79728682 United States 04/10/2021 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just wondering. Since you flat earther retards can post now, maybe you can explain to me what y’all have come up with to explain why I have Christmas in the middle of summer? Quoting: Lover_Girl They can't explain it, they simply believe it. They don't realize that a flat earth would not have night and day, either. It would be one or the other. Same with the seasons. Flat earthers are missing a cog in their brain structure. "When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change" |
not_A_number
User ID: 78118413 Bulgaria 04/10/2021 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since we aren't on a so-called sphere, the half-ball (hemisphere n/s) is a non factor. Quoting: UseLessRepEATER Then why are the stars different here and the seasons different? Why are the stars always at the EXACT same place day after day, year after year, century after century... if the Earth is flying through space at 490,000 miles per hour? How? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80219026 United States 04/10/2021 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :FlatEarthMod2: Quoting: Remedial_Rebel This is the most common model of flat earth showing day and night. When you have empirical observations of daylight of 17+ hours on Dec 21st in Ushuaia , Argentina, anyone with a 5th grade understanding of geometry knows there is no way that's possible with this model. Flat Earth is a Psyop. Not sure it Can really be a psyop, really, some times I think most Flat erfers are really honest and are just like the fanatic people that are rooting for a team because is their team, they don’t really think for themselves, it’s more of a psychosociological phenomena. The “leaders” of the movement are mostly contrarians. It’s easy to dehumanize or have a preconceived bias against a group of humans embracing such an extreme view. Watching a documentary about flat erfers called “Behind the Curve” helped me to drop that attitude towards them, they are just people that embraced a wrong idea and defend it like when people defend their loosing team, because it’s their team. It’s available on Netflix, it’s mostly hilarious but it has some really good moments showing flat Erfers as highly motivated and highly confused people. This is accurate. Most of them know deep down that the FE stuff is nonsense, but they are too emotionally invested to admit it. They also worry that everyone they have been telling about FE will ridicule them if they admit the truth. I really think most of their family and friends would welcome the news with relief. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80219026 United States 04/10/2021 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since we aren't on a so-called sphere, the half-ball (hemisphere n/s) is a non factor. Quoting: UseLessRepEATER Then why are the stars different here and the seasons different? Why are the stars always at the EXACT same place day after day, year after year, century after century... if the Earth is flying through space at 490,000 miles per hour? How? They aren’t. You can tell by the position of the pyramids in Egypt, which were intended to line up with the three stars in Orion’s Belt. They are slightly off today as a result of the progressive movement of those stars in relation to earth. The difference is very small because the distance between stars is so vast. The closest star to earth is 4 light years away-a distance that is hard to get you mind around. If you could travel the speed of light, it would still take 4 years to get there. The vastness of space creates the illusion that the stars don’t move, but in fact we can discern their movements with astronomy, however slight it appears to the naked eye. |
blunt man
User ID: 75519646 Australia 04/10/2021 11:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since we aren't on a so-called sphere, the half-ball (hemisphere n/s) is a non factor. Quoting: UseLessRepEATER Then why are the stars different here and the seasons different? Why are the stars always at the EXACT same place day after day, year after year, century after century... if the Earth is flying through space at 490,000 miles per hour? How? They're not in the EXACT same place day after day. |
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not_A_number
User ID: 78118413 Bulgaria 04/10/2021 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since we aren't on a so-called sphere, the half-ball (hemisphere n/s) is a non factor. Quoting: UseLessRepEATER Then why are the stars different here and the seasons different? Why are the stars always at the EXACT same place day after day, year after year, century after century... if the Earth is flying through space at 490,000 miles per hour? How? They aren’t. You can tell by the position of the pyramids in Egypt, which were intended to line up with the three stars in Orion’s Belt. They are slightly off today as a result of the progressive movement of those stars in relation to earth. The difference is very small because the distance between stars is so vast. The closest star to earth is 4 light years away-a distance that is hard to get you mind around. If you could travel the speed of light, it would still take 4 years to get there. The vastness of space creates the illusion that the stars don’t move, but in fact we can discern their movements with astronomy, however slight it appears to the naked eye. So because they are slightly off today, that somehow proves they weren't slightly off back then? How? I bet they were. |
not_A_number
User ID: 78118413 Bulgaria 04/10/2021 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since we aren't on a so-called sphere, the half-ball (hemisphere n/s) is a non factor. Quoting: UseLessRepEATER Then why are the stars different here and the seasons different? Why are the stars always at the EXACT same place day after day, year after year, century after century... if the Earth is flying through space at 490,000 miles per hour? How? They're not in the EXACT same place day after day. Yes, they are. [link to wtamu.edu (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79903414 United States 04/10/2021 11:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Coriolis Effect is actually a ball tethered to a pole being hit by children on a play ground. The Northern Hemisphere is the top half and the Southern is the bottom half of the pole. The earth is a cylinder combining the straight lines of a Flat Earth and the curved lines of a sphere. |
blunt man
User ID: 75519646 Australia 04/10/2021 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why are the stars always at the EXACT same place day after day, year after year, century after century... if the Earth is flying through space at 490,000 miles per hour? How? They're not in the EXACT same place day after day. Yes, they are. [link to wtamu.edu (secure)] You surely trolling now, the very first sentence in your link.... "The stars are not fixed, but are constantly moving........ The stars seem so fixed that ancient sky-gazers mentally connected the stars into figures (constellations) that we can still make out today. But in reality, the stars are constantly moving. They are just so far away that the naked eye cannot detect their movement. But sensitive instruments can detect their movement... |
not_A_number
User ID: 78118413 Bulgaria 04/10/2021 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: not_A_number Why are the stars always at the EXACT same place day after day, year after year, century after century... if the Earth is flying through space at 490,000 miles per hour? How? They're not in the EXACT same place day after day. Yes, they are. [link to wtamu.edu (secure)] You surely trolling now, the very first sentence in your link.... "The stars are not fixed, but are constantly moving........ The stars seem so fixed that ancient sky-gazers mentally connected the stars into figures (constellations) that we can still make out today. But in reality, the stars are constantly moving. They are just so far away that the naked eye cannot detect their movement. But sensitive instruments can detect their movement... No, really... the statement is that they are moving, but in reality they seem fixed. So their movement is just a hypothesis and reality is there for everyone to see. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78802920 United States 04/10/2021 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BECAUSE THAT WHEN GOD MOVES THE GIANT LIGHT CLOSER TO YOUR SIDE OF THE BIG DISH. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79204899 So where does the giant light go at night? To the other side of the giant static electric plane, the yin yang is the perfect representation of the (flat) earth. Im in Texas and many times I have witnessed both the sun and moon in the same sky. During winter, the cycle of the sun and moon traverse the outer portion of earth plane. And during summer months it comes back to the center. This is why Alaska is dark for 6 months and light for the other 6.I got into this topic to try to debunk FE and ended up a believer. Don't tell me you believe everything our authority tells us is true? |
blunt man
User ID: 75519646 Australia 04/10/2021 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: not_A_number You surely trolling now, the very first sentence in your link.... "The stars are not fixed, but are constantly moving........ The stars seem so fixed that ancient sky-gazers mentally connected the stars into figures (constellations) that we can still make out today. But in reality, the stars are constantly moving. They are just so far away that the naked eye cannot detect their movement. But sensitive instruments can detect their movement... No, really... the statement is that they are moving, but in reality they seem fixed. So their movement is just a hypothesis and reality is there for everyone to see. No. ..the movement is measurable. It says it in the link you posted. You sure you're not fucking with me now? |
not_A_number
User ID: 78118413 Bulgaria 04/10/2021 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You surely trolling now, the very first sentence in your link.... "The stars are not fixed, but are constantly moving........ The stars seem so fixed that ancient sky-gazers mentally connected the stars into figures (constellations) that we can still make out today. But in reality, the stars are constantly moving. They are just so far away that the naked eye cannot detect their movement. But sensitive instruments can detect their movement... No, really... the statement is that they are moving, but in reality they seem fixed. So their movement is just a hypothesis and reality is there for everyone to see. No. ..the movement is measurable. It says it in the link you posted. You sure you're not fucking with me now? It says. Can you measure it? No? But can you see the stars are fixed? Yes? Well... |
Mr Samuel Colt
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blunt man
User ID: 75519646 Australia 04/10/2021 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: blunt man You surely trolling now, the very first sentence in your link.... "The stars are not fixed, but are constantly moving........ The stars seem so fixed that ancient sky-gazers mentally connected the stars into figures (constellations) that we can still make out today. But in reality, the stars are constantly moving. They are just so far away that the naked eye cannot detect their movement. But sensitive instruments can detect their movement... No, really... the statement is that they are moving, but in reality they seem fixed. So their movement is just a hypothesis and reality is there for everyone to see. No. ..the movement is measurable. It says it in the link you posted. You sure you're not fucking with me now? It says. Can you measure it? No? But can you see the stars are fixed? Yes? Well... Yes I can measure their movement. And the size and distance and temperature and age. |
not_A_number
User ID: 78118413 Bulgaria 04/10/2021 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: not_A_number No, really... the statement is that they are moving, but in reality they seem fixed. So their movement is just a hypothesis and reality is there for everyone to see. No. ..the movement is measurable. It says it in the link you posted. You sure you're not fucking with me now? It says. Can you measure it? No? But can you see the stars are fixed? Yes? Well... Yes I can measure their movement. And the size and distance and temperature and age. Last Edited by not_A_number on 04/10/2021 12:20 PM |
blunt man
User ID: 75519646 Australia 04/10/2021 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: blunt man No. ..the movement is measurable. It says it in the link you posted. You sure you're not fucking with me now? It says. Can you measure it? No? But can you see the stars are fixed? Yes? Well... Yes I can measure their movement. And the size and distance and temperature and age. Well I don't know about that, it's quite easily done with high school math. Lots of others have and can do it too. ..and don't forget the spinning around on it's axis at 1000mph. |
Justme C'est Moi
User ID: 80193276 United States 04/10/2021 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you break down the light coming from each star with a prism, you can find the spectral lines for Helium. They are off a little bit, because of the Doppler shift, from the relative motion.. Down, is the direction to the center of mass of the Earth. Roughly Spherical, is the shape of the Earth. Quack, is the sound a duck makes. https://imgur.com/pSFlS7z Coriolis affects long gun shots, hurricane wind patterns, etc. and proves Earth is spinning. And sailboats circumnavigate Antarctica all the time in only a few weeks, when the flat Earth maps would require the better part of a year to circumnavigate. [link to www.vendeeglobe.org (secure)] Last Edited by JustmeTX on 04/10/2021 01:15 PM Justme |
roguetechie81
User ID: 79785318 United States 04/10/2021 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just wondering. Since you flat earther retards can post now, maybe you can explain to me what y’all have come up with to explain why I have Christmas in the middle of summer? Quoting: Lover_Girl I'm a flat earther, not a quite a retard...anyway, the earth is at a tilt, and the sun rotates around the flat earth, hence differing seasonal weather. So it’s like a tilted chessboard and the sun goes around the backside and that’s night? Can you describe the setup for me because it’s not making sense yet. Since you called 'flat earthers' retards, can you provide PROOF of a globe/ball earth? Surely you must have something besides photos from NASA (created by NAZIs during OPERATION PAPERCLIP)..because anyone using NAZIs as evidence is 'not making sense yet.' Proof only exists in math. In everything else from court cases to science there's only evidence. That said, why would you use pictures at all as EVIDENCE for what the shape of the earth is? Everyone knows you flatties just scream and cry fake at pictures that show curvature (hint: technically ALL PICTURES taken on earth with a wide enough field of view show curvature but y'all are too dumb to bother with pictures anyway) That said, you can easily show that there's both curvature and rotation a whole fuck ton of different ways from foucault's pendulum, to the behavior of bullets in flight to the simplest of all evidence.... Are you ready for the absolute simplest and best evidence EVER that earth is definitely a ball? It's a good one, I promise you'll be amazed! The best possible evidence earth is a ball is the FACT that it's outright IMPOSSIBLE to make a flat contiguous map of earth and it's landmasses that is 100% to scale, proportional, and all distances between all points on the map correspond to the distances we know things are from each other in reality! Yes, it's really that simple! You CAN NOT MAKE AN ACCURATE FLAT MAP without breaking it up or applying extensive corrective factors! It's outright IMPOSSIBLE. This is what blows my mind about you flatties. It's incredibly easy to confirm the shape of the earth any one of several dozen ways and that makes the whole flat earth movement funny enough. But the fact that it's literally impossible to make a working flat map... How did you dumbfucks miss that? roguetechie |
roguetechie81
User ID: 79785318 United States 04/10/2021 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Lover_Girl So it’s like a tilted chessboard and the sun goes around the backside and that’s night? Can you describe the setup for me because it’s not making sense yet. Since you called 'flat earthers' retards, can you provide PROOF of a globe/ball earth? Surely you must have something besides photos from NASA (created by NAZIs during OPERATION PAPERCLIP)..because anyone using NAZIs as evidence is 'not making sense yet.' It was proven to me when I flew here over ocean the whole way, lost an entire day and then was in complete opposite seasons. I knew it was a ball before though because I have studied astronomy enough to know that no other shape makes sense. The tilt is responsible for losing your day. No other shape makes sense is your proof? Okay, well same here. A big ball flying around the sun at 66,660 mph doesn't make sense to me -- notice they love those 6666666666es... Especially a big ball with all of this water, and gravity being a "THEORY"...you do know that gravity hasn't been proven, that's why it's called a theory. Gravity is incapable of being proven, it's an observation. Magnetism is proven, and I don't think us humans are made of enough magnetic material to stay on a flying ball spinning at 66,660 mph. No. Gravity is a SCIENTIFIC THEORY not a colloquial Theory, there's a huge difference. Look up the definition of a scientific theory. Now, if they called it the gravity HYPOTHESIS you'd actually have a point but since they don't you don't. roguetechie |
*ApPaL*
User ID: 80193086 United Kingdom 04/10/2021 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Flat Earth people could you tell me what you see in the sky when you look through a telescope? Most objects are spherical and it could be that earth is likewise? How do scientists predict a comet coming back every 80 years? In the same place in the sky? When you fly on a plane and look out of the window, you see the horizon? That’s because it’s curved, you can’t see around the curve? Cymru Am Byth. ^. ^ * * ¥ ~~~ A heart is not judged by how much you love; but by how much you’re loved by others. The Wizard of Oz |
roguetechie81
User ID: 79785318 United States 04/10/2021 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It’s true that most newer WC models (the ones with two buttons for flushing number 1 and number 2 with different amount of water for saving water) don’t swirl, but I still have one of the older swirling ones and it does swirl opposite to the ones in the Northern hemisphere. But you can check the swirl in any other lavatory or sink drain. I have always thought this is not a merely issue of the so called “Coriolis” effect, I think it has an electromagnetic element to it, but no one has ever done the experiments in a properly controlled way. A lot of it is down to the specific construction and placement of your valves and water inlets/outlets. I don't remember how exactly you position everything in order to get your spin direction of choice it could be done roguetechie |
Red Hot Chilean Pepe
User ID: 79780291 Chile 04/10/2021 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It’s true that most newer WC models (the ones with two buttons for flushing number 1 and number 2 with different amount of water for saving water) don’t swirl, but I still have one of the older swirling ones and it does swirl opposite to the ones in the Northern hemisphere. But you can check the swirl in any other lavatory or sink drain. I have always thought this is not a merely issue of the so called “Coriolis” effect, I think it has an electromagnetic element to it, but no one has ever done the experiments in a properly controlled way. A lot of it is down to the specific construction and placement of your valves and water inlets/outlets. I don't remember how exactly you position everything in order to get your spin direction of choice it could be done The simplest drain with no valve at all, a simple funnel, will show the effect. You Can of course fiddle with the direction intentionally if you want, but in the simplest set up, a level funnel filled with water and capped at the exit, remove the cap and water will always swirl the same way, and the direction of the swirl will be dependent on the hemisphere of the Earth you are standing on. All great truths begin as Blasphemies. G.B.S. GLP is like a diamond mine of information, in the sense that you have to shovel mountains of crap to find the diamonds, but it's still worth the pain. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 53601724 United States 04/10/2021 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if you actually believe this explain how the south pole gets -30 during their summertime with 24/7 sun? north pole also is much colder than you think it would be during the summer, barrow alaska for example gets 20-30 in the summer with snow this makes sense with a sun that locally heats and illuminates The explanation is correct, and you can see for yourself, by looking at the angle that the Sun makes with the ground at noon in the winter versus the summer. |
roguetechie81
User ID: 79785318 United States 04/10/2021 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since we aren't on a so-called sphere, the half-ball (hemisphere n/s) is a non factor. Quoting: UseLessRepEATER Then why are the stars different here and the seasons different? Why are the stars always at the EXACT same place day after day, year after year, century after century... if the Earth is flying through space at 490,000 miles per hour? How? Well that's easy to answer, they're not. Look at nautical almanacs which you can easily find dating back to the 17th century archived online and you'll see that they very specifically account for the stars position changes throughout the year and from year to year. In 15,000 years polaris won't be the north star anymore and Polaris hasn't always been the north star. This is the root issue with you flerfs, you arrogantly and ignorantly insist that your foolish assumptions are true without bothering to check that they actually are. The even bigger problem with you flerfs though is that the next time a thread like this comes up you'll be in it saying exactly the same thing you said here even though you've been handed the information to prove your own statement wrong. There's not much people can do to help those who don't want to be helped. roguetechie |
roguetechie81
User ID: 79785318 United States 04/10/2021 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why are the stars always at the EXACT same place day after day, year after year, century after century... if the Earth is flying through space at 490,000 miles per hour? How? They're not in the EXACT same place day after day. Yes, they are. [link to wtamu.edu (secure)] You fuckin dummy... From YOUR OWN LINK "The principal movement of the stars within the disk portion of the Galaxy is the Keplerian motion: the closer the star is to the gravitational center (the nucleus of the Galaxy), the faster it moves. " Even your own link outright says that they may appear to be fixed and unmoving but they actually aren't. Fuck you suck at research roguetechie |