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I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine

 
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What vaccine?
Why subject yourself to an experimental technology for a "virus" with a 99.98 % survival rate.

Are you familiar what happened with previous attempts at making a corona vaccine when animals where exposed to the virus after vaccination?

It was a miserable failure....

But sure lets just stick with our "pro science" sources like CNN

Surely we wont listen to the countless doctors who are risking their lives/families/careers to warn and go against the mainstream narrative.

How did humanity ever make it this far without big pharma injections,

God given immune systems must of been such a huge flaw that it's a miracle we ever got this far.

But never fear Big Pharma has corrected God's mistake.

Now line up for your shot



"...for a "virus" with a 99.98 % survival rate."
Citation desperately needed for this.
.
BTW - The population IFR is very age dependent but is about 0.60%-0.70%
in the USA.
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
"As shown in Fig. 6, population IFR (computed across all ages) ranges from about 0.5% in Salt Lake City and Geneva to 1.5% in Australia and England and 2.7% in Italy."

Gee... what is 0.60% of 330,000,000?
Ahhh... It's only about 2,000,000 deaths from COVID.
Presumably you would find 2 Million deaths acceptable?


We currently have had ~560,000 COVID deaths which gives a lower boundary for IFR of 560,000/330,000,000 = 0.0017 = 0.17%.
This makes the upper bound for COVID survivability to be 100-0.17 = 99.83%. We've already had a death rate 8+ times what you are claiming, Mr. "99.98% survival".
And that's if we falsely consider that 100% of the US population has been infected; which it hasn't.
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This is why I don't argue technical aspects much here on GLP... most of the anti-science, anti-vaccine ghouls are completely innumerate and functionally illiterate.


R.
Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.
 Quoting: Reality420


We don’t know how many of those two million deaths were truly covid related. Hospitals made a lot of money by hooking people up to respirators in the beginning which killed them. And many who died from other things were listed as covid to get money as well. Greed kills. I don’t trust the numbers at all.

If covid was so bad pilots and flight crews would have been dropping dead since they are around the public constantly. They weren’t. And they are not that healthy like they use to be. And planes are filthy. I use to be a crew member and keep up with what is going on. The unions would have been all over it. Nope. There is something else going on and it is not covid related. This so called sickness is just a cold or flu ramped up some. That’s it.
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Re: I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
What vaccine?
Why subject yourself to an experimental technology for a "virus" with a 99.98 % survival rate.

Are you familiar what happened with previous attempts at making a corona vaccine when animals where exposed to the virus after vaccination?

It was a miserable failure....

But sure lets just stick with our "pro science" sources like CNN

Surely we wont listen to the countless doctors who are risking their lives/families/careers to warn and go against the mainstream narrative.

How did humanity ever make it this far without big pharma injections,

God given immune systems must of been such a huge flaw that it's a miracle we ever got this far.

But never fear Big Pharma has corrected God's mistake.

Now line up for your shot



"...for a "virus" with a 99.98 % survival rate."
Citation desperately needed for this.
.
BTW - The population IFR is very age dependent but is about 0.60%-0.70%
in the USA.
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
"As shown in Fig. 6, population IFR (computed across all ages) ranges from about 0.5% in Salt Lake City and Geneva to 1.5% in Australia and England and 2.7% in Italy."

Gee... what is 0.60% of 330,000,000?
Ahhh... It's only about 2,000,000 deaths from COVID.
Presumably you would find 2 Million deaths acceptable?


We currently have had ~560,000 COVID deaths which gives a lower boundary for IFR of 560,000/330,000,000 = 0.0017 = 0.17%.
This makes the upper bound for COVID survivability to be 100-0.17 = 99.83%. We've already had a death rate 8+ times what you are claiming, Mr. "99.98% survival".
And that's if we falsely consider that 100% of the US population has been infected; which it hasn't.
.
This is why I don't argue technical aspects much here on GLP... most of the anti-science, anti-vaccine ghouls are completely innumerate and functionally illiterate.


R.
Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.
 Quoting: Reality420


We don’t know how many of those two million deaths were truly covid related. Hospitals made a lot of money by hooking people up to respirators in the beginning which killed them. And many who died from other things were listed as covid to get money as well. Greed kills. I don’t trust the numbers at all.

If covid was so bad pilots and flight crews would have been dropping dead since they are around the public constantly. They weren’t. And they are not that healthy like they use to be. And planes are filthy. I use to be a crew member and keep up with what is going on. The unions would have been all over it. Nope. There is something else going on and it is not covid related. This so called sickness is just a cold or flu ramped up some. That’s it.
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Re: I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
You can tell the phony PHds and NWO shills with how hostile and angry they get right off the bat when you speak out about the vax. That's all these leftwing nutballs have, emotion not science or fact.

The simple unrefutable fact is if this vax was worth anything, they wouldn't need to propagandize and try to force people into taking it.

Why? Because if it works, they'd be protected no matter what anyone else does. If it really worked, people would be rioting to get the jab
Sic Semper Tyrannis.

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Re: I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
You "studied"?

First thing you should have discovered is that it's not a vaccine, it's an experiential gene therapy.
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Correct
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Re: I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
DNA replicates and stores genetic information. It is a blueprint for all genetic information contained within an organism

RNA converts the genetic information contained within DNA to a format used to build proteins, and then moves it to ribosomal protein factories.


the vaccines are also cancerogenous, how else do you think they can keep up feeding the Big Pharma industries

they're making you sick so that at the end of the day, they'll be selling you the live saving drugs, therapies

win-win for the treasonous deep state CABAL
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Incredible high risk, for virtually zero benefits.

40 Docs Test Positive For COVID-19 After Taking Vaccines
[link to science.thewire.in (secure)]

Women say they are having heavier and more painful PERIODS since getting their COVID-19 vaccines - as several claim it has also messed up their monthly cycle
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]

"Dear patients, after an unprecedented mRNA vaccine, you will no longer be able to treat the symptoms of the vaccine in a complementary way. You will have to live with the consequences because you will no longer be able to be cured simply by removing toxins from the human body, just like a person with a genetic defect like Down syndrome, Klinefelter syndrome, Turner syndrome, stopping genetic heart disease, hemophilia, cystic fibrosis, Rett syndrome, etc.), because the genetic defect is eternal! This clearly means: if a vaccination symptom develops after an mRNA vaccination, neither I nor any other therapist will be able to help you, as the damage caused by this vaccination will be genetically irreversible. In my opinion, these new vaccines represent a crime against humanity that has never been committed in such a significant way in history."
-- Robert F. Kennedy
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Re: I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
All I needed to know is that it appears I will require a passport soon to do anything, that’s all the answer I needed to know to say No to it.
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Re: I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
the people on this planet are getting older more than young are being born

there are too few workers that can work for the countries' taxes and other benefits out of which they pay out the pensions, the whole system is collapsing and crumbling

hence they're culling the elderly, first

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Yes. Why save so many people when they keep telling us there are too many humans on the planet? They want less of us. Not more.
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Re: I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


Then instead of being a jerk why not tell us why the poster is wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79543875


Because we are back to anonymous posters starting anti-science, anti-vaccine threads that are based on lies told a thousand times.
Everything in the OP is wrong and based on anti-vaccine lies.
This entire thread is nothing more than a blatant attempt to spread Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD) about the vaccines.
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You'll note the anonymous OP made no citations to back his false anti-vax claims...
How about he provide some evidence that what he stated in the OP is based on fact?
Won't happen because it is all a lie.

R
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 Quoting: Reality420


Can you provide evidence of long term affect of COVID vaccines? Can you specifically state what part of what OP said is untrue?

Thanks in Advance.
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All I needed to know is that it appears I will require a passport soon to do anything, that’s all the answer I needed to know to say No to it.
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It’s a scare tactic. Not even 20% of the US has been vaxxed. All the so called passports can be faked anyway. If it does happen it won’t be for a long time. Wait until next year and see what happens.
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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


The thing about doing your own research is having the knowledge to come to a reasonable conclusion, which 99% of this board doesn't have with any topic they discuss.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76847005


For both statements:
Exactly.

Remember you are dealing with people who believe the earth is flat, that they are space aliens, that jetliner exhaust is deadly "chemtrails", that we are in Teh End Times (for the 2,000th time), and other even more bizarre fantasy based beliefs.

It makes no difference to the anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks that there is no mechanism for the mRNA in the vaccine to even come into contact with your nuclear DNA and, by the way, RNA and DNA are quite different chemicals and one does not interact with the other... It's called biochemistry which a moronic computer scientist wouldn't know a thing about.

They can't even do a Giggle search on "COVID mRNA vaccine" to get hundreds of webpages and RubeTube vids explaining how the mRNA vaccines work... Which is nothing like the laughable "science" these dimwits babble here on GLP.

For those who want a quick explanation:
The vaccine contains the mRNA sequence needed to make the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein... That is all it can make is that one protein. mRNA is encapsulated to protect it and to get it across the cell membrane into the cytoplasm. mRNA stays in the cytoplasm and cannot get into the cell nucleus.

Once in the cytoplasm the cell ribosomes hook on and read the mRNA code to assemble amino acids in the cytoplasm into the desired spike protein.
The spike protein is expressed on the surface of the cell and induces an immune response from the body to produce antibodies to the spike protein.
Voila! You have just been vaccinated.

mRNA is RNA and RNA is very fragile (unlike DNA) and rapidly falls apart when exposed to the cell environment... lasting 24 hours or less... so your vaccine stops working in a day or two. (Why 2 if it doesn't last a day? Because the unprotected RNA generally doesn't last longer than a day but the encapsulated mRNA is protected so until it is taken up by a cell and the mRNA is released it is still active... It ain't that hard to understand, is it?)

Just G**gle "COVID mRNA vaccine" and only read info from qualified science/med sites such as Johns Hopkins, Harvard, CDC, etc. Do not get your info from anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks like lawyers, comp. scientists, "internet influencers", untrained doctors, untrained scientists and engineers, etc.
There are a lot of kooks lying to you and begging you for money to help them continue lying to others.

Get your vaccine and quit listening to flat earth kooks about something as important as your health.


R.
Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.
 Quoting: Reality420


....and yet you're here posting on a lunatic site, lol are you here to save us from ourselves?
Tell you what...., I'll take my chances with my OWN IMMUNE SYSTEM to handle a cold virus with a 99.97% recovery rate, lol.
This site harbors like-minded people who question everything....you're going to get the full spectrum of opinions and observations...the "smarter" individuals understand that there are puzzle pieces scattered around that may help them see the bigger picture, but thats only possible if you come to the realization that you don't know everything... which means you should leave your ARROGANCE at the door, lol

""The only thing a wise man knows is that he knows nothing at all...""
Think about it....
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Re: I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


Why the hell are wasting your time on a conspiracy forum if your that smart? Get the fuck out of here!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74593647


So you are saying conspiracy forums are for those who aren't "that smart" - ie. morons, and you qualify because you want him to leave but you are staying.
Good to know!
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Now...
"Get the fuck out of here!, AC74593647"

Ignorance is nothing of which to be proud.

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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


Then give us your take Mr. Know It All.
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Re: I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
You can tell the phony PHds and NWO shills with how hostile and angry they get right off the bat when you speak out about the vax. That's all these leftwing nutballs have, emotion not science or fact.

The simple unrefutable fact is if this vax was worth anything, they wouldn't need to propagandize and try to force people into taking it.

Why? Because if it works, they'd be protected no matter what anyone else does. If it really worked, people would be rioting to get the jab
 Quoting: VampPatriot


True.
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Re: I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
So I was wondering what the horrible thing about this mRNA vaccine is. It seems simple and innocent and will save lives. Here’s what I got
They have been studying mRNA vaccines for 20 years now, they have tried it with Zika, the regular flu, HIV and cancer. Not one has been approved for use. It seems in trials something goes wrong. In animal trial they develop autoimmune diseases or die.

They inject us with mRNA, the mRNA binds to the outside of the cell, calling in protein to make the antibodies. The antibodies fight off the virus and all is dandy. The mRNA is then supposed to disappear into our system and not go into the cell. Some scientists have found the mRNA goes into the cell and bonds with the DNA, the DNA is like hey, your not supposed to be here and starts fighting it off. This could lead to autoimmune diseases later in life or even death right now. These scientists are quickly silenced and called quacks. The media won’t cover all of the bad reactions. Some people are strong enough to fight this off but some, like the sick and elderly can not. I guess in short, don’t get this vaccine
 Quoting: Carley 80219481


mRNA causes the cell to produce protein within the cell.
PLEASE look into Prions.

Your on the right track. The symptom covid showed in some people at the start called "cytokine storm" was cover for what the mRNA can cause. They knew this before they convinced a portion of the population to accept the VAX to cover. It's very EVIL what they are doing to the entire world population to their bodies and minds.

Think Flu called something else. Rebranding.
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What vaccine?
Why subject yourself to an experimental technology for a "virus" with a 99.98 % survival rate.

Are you familiar what happened with previous attempts at making a corona vaccine when animals where exposed to the virus after vaccination?

It was a miserable failure....

But sure lets just stick with our "pro science" sources like CNN

Surely we wont listen to the countless doctors who are risking their lives/families/careers to warn and go against the mainstream narrative.

How did humanity ever make it this far without big pharma injections,

God given immune systems must of been such a huge flaw that it's a miracle we ever got this far.

But never fear Big Pharma has corrected God's mistake.

Now line up for your shot



"...for a "virus" with a 99.98 % survival rate."
Citation desperately needed for this.
.
BTW - The population IFR is very age dependent but is about 0.60%-0.70%
in the USA.
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
"As shown in Fig. 6, population IFR (computed across all ages) ranges from about 0.5% in Salt Lake City and Geneva to 1.5% in Australia and England and 2.7% in Italy."

Gee... what is 0.60% of 330,000,000?
Ahhh... It's only about 2,000,000 deaths from COVID.
Presumably you would find 2 Million deaths acceptable?


We currently have had ~560,000 COVID deaths which gives a lower boundary for IFR of 560,000/330,000,000 = 0.0017 = 0.17%.
This makes the upper bound for COVID survivability to be 100-0.17 = 99.83%. We've already had a death rate 8+ times what you are claiming, Mr. "99.98% survival".
And that's if we falsely consider that 100% of the US population has been infected; which it hasn't.
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This is why I don't argue technical aspects much here on GLP... most of the anti-science, anti-vaccine ghouls are completely innumerate and functionally illiterate.


R.
Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.
 Quoting: Reality420


But I thought all those were co-morbidities and there were statistically no excess deaths
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Re: I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
What vaccine?
Why subject yourself to an experimental technology for a "virus" with a 99.98 % survival rate.

Are you familiar what happened with previous attempts at making a corona vaccine when animals where exposed to the virus after vaccination?

It was a miserable failure....

But sure lets just stick with our "pro science" sources like CNN

Surely we wont listen to the countless doctors who are risking their lives/families/careers to warn and go against the mainstream narrative.

How did humanity ever make it this far without big pharma injections,

God given immune systems must of been such a huge flaw that it's a miracle we ever got this far.

But never fear Big Pharma has corrected God's mistake.

Now line up for your shot



"...for a "virus" with a 99.98 % survival rate."
Citation desperately needed for this.
.
BTW - The population IFR is very age dependent but is about 0.60%-0.70%
in the USA.
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
"As shown in Fig. 6, population IFR (computed across all ages) ranges from about 0.5% in Salt Lake City and Geneva to 1.5% in Australia and England and 2.7% in Italy."

Gee... what is 0.60% of 330,000,000?
Ahhh... It's only about 2,000,000 deaths from COVID.
Presumably you would find 2 Million deaths acceptable?


We currently have had ~560,000 COVID deaths which gives a lower boundary for IFR of 560,000/330,000,000 = 0.0017 = 0.17%.
This makes the upper bound for COVID survivability to be 100-0.17 = 99.83%. We've already had a death rate 8+ times what you are claiming, Mr. "99.98% survival".
And that's if we falsely consider that 100% of the US population has been infected; which it hasn't.
.
This is why I don't argue technical aspects much here on GLP... most of the anti-science, anti-vaccine ghouls are completely innumerate and functionally illiterate.


R.
Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.
 Quoting: Reality420


We don’t know how many of those two million deaths were truly covid related. Hospitals made a lot of money by hooking people up to respirators in the beginning which killed them. And many who died from other things were listed as covid to get money as well. Greed kills. I don’t trust the numbers at all.

If covid was so bad pilots and flight crews would have been dropping dead since they are around the public constantly. They weren’t. And they are not that healthy like they use to be. And planes are filthy. I use to be a crew member and keep up with what is going on. The unions would have been all over it. Nope. There is something else going on and it is not covid related. This so called sickness is just a cold or flu ramped up some. That’s it.
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Point of fact is that the system left patients alone with nothing until they were at deaths door.
It was blatant neglect. Worse was that the so called experiments with potential beneficial medicines were withheld beyond the potentially beneficial pstages of the disease, provided improperly or incompletely and then lied about, even to the point of completely fictionalized protocols.
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Re: I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
What i think is coming.
The reason for covid and more alike things to come even dormant volcanoes will become active,{clue it is cyclic but over many thousands of years the big one comes}
The elite priest cast holders of knowledge know of this time.. they sat 2040 is next.?.
my theory also about the harvest and being worthy to be put in gods Barnes..We humans evolve to a point appointed by the divine in a type civilization..then we are sort of tested those worthy are taken thats the harvest .the rest are left behind for the fury of gods wine press the cyclic return close pass of the destroyer which is a reset spin dry of planet...
the covid vacs does not make sense as a defense for flu cause flues mutate..so what about adjustment of DNA for long space flight
the harvest ?i have noticed places which had hauntings have changed they are gone ,maybe the really bad are left .the destroyer may destroy spirit + body..
it says the rich go under the earth in the mountains under the sea but its no good ..so i think the reaper will get your spirit body anywhere on earth.
they can not hide from gods face or his appointed slayer.which is the
earth being reborn...
i have not had the vacs.. but something is off ,,wanna be took to proxima centaur i?
just my thinking.
maybe the dna has to be tweaked for billions to go somewhere else,maybe the planet evolves and with the tweak you get there more easy.
Bible says the sky is gone rolled up then a new earth,,now a demon
dwarf planet failed star would do that.
every so many years things happen then a huge civilisation wipe..hece things found miles deep in mud and coal etc.
thats the big swecret.. the earth is like a vineyard the master goes away and puts in overseers they dont want to give it up when the master comes back...get me...
read it...i think peeps are and have been being judged since 2012 for how we are.no tec for the most part ,then wam tec comes aalong last 150 years....why... they was clever back then too...

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Incredible high risk, for virtually zero benefits.

40 Docs Test Positive For COVID-19 After Taking Vaccines
[link to science.thewire.in (secure)]

Women say they are having heavier and more painful PERIODS since getting their COVID-19 vaccines - as several claim it has also messed up their monthly cycle
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]

"Dear patients, after an unprecedented mRNA vaccine, you will no longer be able to treat the symptoms of the vaccine in a complementary way. You will have to live with the consequences because you will no longer be able to be cured simply by removing toxins from the human body, just like a person with a genetic defect like Down syndrome, Klinefelter syndrome, Turner syndrome, stopping genetic heart disease, hemophilia, cystic fibrosis, Rett syndrome, etc.), because the genetic defect is eternal! This clearly means: if a vaccination symptom develops after an mRNA vaccination, neither I nor any other therapist will be able to help you, as the damage caused by this vaccination will be genetically irreversible. In my opinion, these new vaccines represent a crime against humanity that has never been committed in such a significant way in history."
-- Robert F. Kennedy
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It messes up their hormones. Mainly progesterone. Probably why women were losing their babies. They probably had some hormone problems and the shot pushed them over the edge.
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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


Post credentials.

Post evidence refuting OP.

Till then....go suck a dick
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All I needed to know is that it appears I will require a passport soon to do anything, that’s all the answer I needed to know to say No to it.
 Quoting: -Kate-


It’s a scare tactic. Not even 20% of the US has been vaxxed. All the so called passports can be faked anyway. If it does happen it won’t be for a long time. Wait until next year and see what happens.
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Re: I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
What vaccine?
Why subject yourself to an experimental technology for a "virus" with a 99.98 % survival rate.

Are you familiar what happened with previous attempts at making a corona vaccine when animals where exposed to the virus after vaccination?

It was a miserable failure....

But sure lets just stick with our "pro science" sources like CNN

Surely we wont listen to the countless doctors who are risking their lives/families/careers to warn and go against the mainstream narrative.

How did humanity ever make it this far without big pharma injections,

God given immune systems must of been such a huge flaw that it's a miracle we ever got this far.

But never fear Big Pharma has corrected God's mistake.

Now line up for your shot



"...for a "virus" with a 99.98 % survival rate."
Citation desperately needed for this.
.
BTW - The population IFR is very age dependent but is about 0.60%-0.70%
in the USA.
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
"As shown in Fig. 6, population IFR (computed across all ages) ranges from about 0.5% in Salt Lake City and Geneva to 1.5% in Australia and England and 2.7% in Italy."

Gee... what is 0.60% of 330,000,000?
Ahhh... It's only about 2,000,000 deaths from COVID.
Presumably you would find 2 Million deaths acceptable?


We currently have had ~560,000 COVID deaths which gives a lower boundary for IFR of 560,000/330,000,000 = 0.0017 = 0.17%.
This makes the upper bound for COVID survivability to be 100-0.17 = 99.83%. We've already had a death rate 8+ times what you are claiming, Mr. "99.98% survival".
And that's if we falsely consider that 100% of the US population has been infected; which it hasn't.
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This is why I don't argue technical aspects much here on GLP... most of the anti-science, anti-vaccine ghouls are completely innumerate and functionally illiterate.


R.
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 Quoting: Reality420


We don’t know how many of those two million deaths were truly covid related. Hospitals made a lot of money by hooking people up to respirators in the beginning which killed them. And many who died from other things were listed as covid to get money as well. Greed kills. I don’t trust the numbers at all.

If covid was so bad pilots and flight crews would have been dropping dead since they are around the public constantly. They weren’t. And they are not that healthy like they use to be. And planes are filthy. I use to be a crew member and keep up with what is going on. The unions would have been all over it. Nope. There is something else going on and it is not covid related. This so called sickness is just a cold or flu ramped up some. That’s it.
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Point of fact is that the system left patients alone with nothing until they were at deaths door.
It was blatant neglect. Worse was that the so called experiments with potential beneficial medicines were withheld beyond the potentially beneficial pstages of the disease, provided improperly or incompletely and then lied about, even to the point of completely fictionalized protocols.
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Yes. That is why we cannot trust the numbers.
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Re: I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


The thing about doing your own research is having the knowledge to come to a reasonable conclusion, which 99% of this board doesn't have with any topic they discuss.
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For both statements:
Exactly.

Remember you are dealing with people who believe the earth is flat, that they are space aliens, that jetliner exhaust is deadly "chemtrails", that we are in Teh End Times (for the 2,000th time), and other even more bizarre fantasy based beliefs.

It makes no difference to the anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks that there is no mechanism for the mRNA in the vaccine to even come into contact with your nuclear DNA and, by the way, RNA and DNA are quite different chemicals and one does not interact with the other... It's called biochemistry which a moronic computer scientist wouldn't know a thing about.

They can't even do a Giggle search on "COVID mRNA vaccine" to get hundreds of webpages and RubeTube vids explaining how the mRNA vaccines work... Which is nothing like the laughable "science" these dimwits babble here on GLP.

For those who want a quick explanation:
The vaccine contains the mRNA sequence needed to make the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein... That is all it can make is that one protein. mRNA is encapsulated to protect it and to get it across the cell membrane into the cytoplasm. mRNA stays in the cytoplasm and cannot get into the cell nucleus.

Once in the cytoplasm the cell ribosomes hook on and read the mRNA code to assemble amino acids in the cytoplasm into the desired spike protein.
The spike protein is expressed on the surface of the cell and induces an immune response from the body to produce antibodies to the spike protein.
Voila! You have just been vaccinated.

mRNA is RNA and RNA is very fragile (unlike DNA) and rapidly falls apart when exposed to the cell environment... lasting 24 hours or less... so your vaccine stops working in a day or two. (Why 2 if it doesn't last a day? Because the unprotected RNA generally doesn't last longer than a day but the encapsulated mRNA is protected so until it is taken up by a cell and the mRNA is released it is still active... It ain't that hard to understand, is it?)

Just G**gle "COVID mRNA vaccine" and only read info from qualified science/med sites such as Johns Hopkins, Harvard, CDC, etc. Do not get your info from anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks like lawyers, comp. scientists, "internet influencers", untrained doctors, untrained scientists and engineers, etc.
There are a lot of kooks lying to you and begging you for money to help them continue lying to others.

Get your vaccine and quit listening to flat earth kooks about something as important as your health.


R.
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 Quoting: Reality420




PLEASE, I beg you. Get your WHOLE FAMILY vaccinated with this "vaccine". You can even have my "dose" (I'm medically excluded)

I look forward to your post about the deaths in your family due to the "vaccine".

Ta Ta
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They're pushing it hard because there is lots of money in fear.
“I’m the wall that progress ran into"
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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


Then instead of being a jerk why not tell us why the poster is wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79543875


Because we are back to anonymous posters starting anti-science, anti-vaccine threads that are based on lies told a thousand times.
Everything in the OP is wrong and based on anti-vaccine lies.
This entire thread is nothing more than a blatant attempt to spread Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD) about the vaccines.
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You'll note the anonymous OP made no citations to back his false anti-vax claims...
How about he provide some evidence that what he stated in the OP is based on fact?
Won't happen because it is all a lie.

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 Quoting: Reality420


Can you provide evidence of long term affect of COVID vaccines? Can you specifically state what part of what OP said is untrue?

Thanks in Advance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80229296


Of course he can't....and thats the "x-factor." I have little tolerance for people who spout off insults and have that ARROGANT vibe. We're "kooks" because we question an experimental vaccine that was on the shelf for twenty years because they couldn't get it to work...well, until the government promised them immunity from liability and of course, multiple BILLIONS in profits, lol.
Reality itself is a snare and racket, lol.
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Re: I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
All I needed to know is that it appears I will require a passport soon to do anything, that’s all the answer I needed to know to say No to it.
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It’s a scare tactic. Not even 20% of the US has been vaxxed. All the so called passports can be faked anyway. If it does happen it won’t be for a long time. Wait until next year and see what happens.
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The campaign has begun!


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 Quoting: -Kate-


They can campaign all they want. I believe the majority will ignore it. Hopefully.
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Re: I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
So I was wondering what the horrible thing about this mRNA vaccine is. It seems simple and innocent and will save lives. Here’s what I got
They have been studying mRNA vaccines for 20 years now, they have tried it with Zika, the regular flu, HIV and cancer. Not one has been approved for use. It seems in trials something goes wrong. In animal trial they develop autoimmune diseases or die.

They inject us with mRNA, the mRNA binds to the outside of the cell, calling in protein to make the antibodies. The antibodies fight off the virus and all is dandy. The mRNA is then supposed to disappear into our system and not go into the cell. Some scientists have found the mRNA goes into the cell and bonds with the DNA, the DNA is like hey, your not supposed to be here and starts fighting it off. This could lead to autoimmune diseases later in life or even death right now. These scientists are quickly silenced and called quacks. The media won’t cover all of the bad reactions. Some people are strong enough to fight this off but some, like the sick and elderly can not. I guess in short, don’t get this vaccine
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The mechanics of what mRNA does inside thre cell is all wrong.
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They're pushing it hard because there is lots of money in fear.
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Of course here is.
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They're pushing it hard because there is lots of money in fear.
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Of course here is.
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There
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Re: I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


Why the hell are wasting your time on a conspiracy forum if your that smart? Get the fuck out of here!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74593647


So you are saying conspiracy forums are for those who aren't "that smart" - ie. morons, and you qualify because you want him to leave but you are staying.
Good to know!
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Now...
"Get the fuck out of here!, AC74593647"

Ignorance is nothing of which to be proud.

R.
Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.
 Quoting: Reality420


Neither is "ARROGANCE"

I guess you're here to save us then?? Lol.

Go ahead a give yourself a pat on the back, lol
Fool.





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