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I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine

 
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I was leary and very skeptical of the vaccine. I have friends who I trust implicitly who have backgrounds in this field and I asked them all the questions about this vaccine and what it actually does inside. In the most basic layman's terms it seems that the vaccine tricks the codes of your body to fight off the infection. Unlike a traditional flu shot that uses the dead virus to fight off itself, this hacks the codes in your body to do it for you.

That being said, I also know that this vaccine doesn't stay in your system forever. There is a limited life-span.

HOWEVER.... what I am still very leary about is why the fuck is Bill Gates and the Gates foundation involved in promoting this vaccine when they are already on record for promoting population control?

Also, this virus was absolutely released as a way to disrupt the system and provide an environment where it was easy to get rid of DJT. That is an indisputable fact.

So... it is perfectly normal for everyone to question everything. Including this vaccine and any other vaccine coming down the line.

We all have to ask questions... trust the people we know... and critically think our way through the next decade.
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I don't see the harm in questions but I do have
a hard time understanding why they would say this
virus is killing people when the vaccine is doing
more damage.
If it was your kids, you would have
a different attitude about sticking them with---

an experimental injection which is REASONABLE!!!!


Why is this UNREASONABLE TO YOU PEOPLE????

I will never understand that. This is not a vaccine
and they CHANGED the definition of a vaccine for
what purpose??? To fool everyone into taking it???

How do you guys, all of you EXPLAIN THAT????

Explain to us all---why did they change the definition?
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So, President Elect Slogenphys, you are the first up to say nothing really loudly, Weddun you effing Prick
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Anybody mention Gain of Function or Ft Detrick yet?

Because that’s how this started!
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Yes and while we are at it, how about the prion genesis site on the spike protein in the vax that may very well cause neuro-degenerative conditions such as Parkinson’s, Lewy body dementia etc. etc. as indicated in primate trials where all the monkeys got it. So in humans we do not know at this point how this is going to pan out, do we? Well until we do know, I am lying low regarding potential exposure to the virus as well as those damn “vaccines”. Thanks but no thanks. I can always change my mind if I want to but for now I am not at all convinced these “vaccines” are trustworthy. And I am not even talking about “Antibody Dependant Enhancement”. Go ahead and call me names and being “ignorant”. (No, not you, AC, wink wink).

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Some people are strong enough to fight this off but some, like the sick and elderly can not.
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Once you get it I don't think the fight ever ends.
I've gotten a lot of red for telling the truth and being right. Just sayin'
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Scientists at Sloan Kettering discover mRNA inactivates Tumor-Suppressing Proteins & likely Promotes Cancer

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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


The thing about doing your own research is having the knowledge to come to a reasonable conclusion, which 99% of this board doesn't have with any topic they discuss.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76847005


For both statements:
Exactly.

Remember you are dealing with people who believe the earth is flat, that they are space aliens, that jetliner exhaust is deadly "chemtrails", that we are in Teh End Times (for the 2,000th time), and other even more bizarre fantasy based beliefs.

It makes no difference to the anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks that there is no mechanism for the mRNA in the vaccine to even come into contact with your nuclear DNA and, by the way, RNA and DNA are quite different chemicals and one does not interact with the other... It's called biochemistry which a moronic computer scientist wouldn't know a thing about.

They can't even do a Giggle search on "COVID mRNA vaccine" to get hundreds of webpages and RubeTube vids explaining how the mRNA vaccines work... Which is nothing like the laughable "science" these dimwits babble here on GLP.

For those who want a quick explanation:
The vaccine contains the mRNA sequence needed to make the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein... That is all it can make is that one protein. mRNA is encapsulated to protect it and to get it across the cell membrane into the cytoplasm. mRNA stays in the cytoplasm and cannot get into the cell nucleus.

Once in the cytoplasm the cell ribosomes hook on and read the mRNA code to assemble amino acids in the cytoplasm into the desired spike protein.
The spike protein is expressed on the surface of the cell and induces an immune response from the body to produce antibodies to the spike protein.
Voila! You have just been vaccinated.

mRNA is RNA and RNA is very fragile (unlike DNA) and rapidly falls apart when exposed to the cell environment... lasting 24 hours or less... so your vaccine stops working in a day or two. (Why 2 if it doesn't last a day? Because the unprotected RNA generally doesn't last longer than a day but the encapsulated mRNA is protected so until it is taken up by a cell and the mRNA is released it is still active... It ain't that hard to understand, is it?)

Just G**gle "COVID mRNA vaccine" and only read info from qualified science/med sites such as Johns Hopkins, Harvard, CDC, etc. Do not get your info from anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks like lawyers, comp. scientists, "internet influencers", untrained doctors, untrained scientists and engineers, etc.
There are a lot of kooks lying to you and begging you for money to help them continue lying to others.

Get your vaccine and quit listening to flat earth kooks about something as important as your health.


R.
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 Quoting: Reality420


You are extremely arrogant and confident in some experimental gene therapy aren't ya. Get your 3.50 and go home.
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Many doctors say masks don't protect you from a virus. These doctors need to tell the Governors masks and Social distancing doesn't work.
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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


You come across as a shill. Others have noticed as well lol.
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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


Yeah, that's why you have to sign paperwork acknowledging that you understand that it is not a vaccine and that there is no vaccine for Covid 19 before you get the jab.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79250744


What the hell are you babbling about?
Who has to sign a paper that "it is not a vaccine and that..."?
Where did you read or come up with this delusional codswallop?
.
This is like having a discussion about calculus with a 4 year old who doesn't even know the number line and believes in magic and monsters...

R.
Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.
 Quoting: Reality420


Reality 420 is either a shill or an asshole.
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Both epiclol
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What happens if you took the first dose but not the second. Damage still done, if any?
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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


Then why are there courageous molecular biologists who are telling the truth about how dangerous this is? You are either not an MB or you are inept as one...

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What vaccine?
Why subject yourself to an experimental technology for a "virus" with a 99.98 % survival rate.

Are you familiar what happened with previous attempts at making a corona vaccine when animals where exposed to the virus after vaccination?

It was a miserable failure....

But sure lets just stick with our "pro science" sources like CNN

Surely we wont listen to the countless doctors who are risking their lives/families/careers to warn and go against the mainstream narrative.

How did humanity ever make it this far without big pharma injections,

God given immune systems must of been such a huge flaw that it's a miracle we ever got this far.

But never fear Big Pharma has corrected God's mistake.

Now line up for your shot



"...for a "virus" with a 99.98 % survival rate."
Citation desperately needed for this.
.
BTW - The population IFR is very age dependent but is about 0.60%-0.70%
in the USA.
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
"As shown in Fig. 6, population IFR (computed across all ages) ranges from about 0.5% in Salt Lake City and Geneva to 1.5% in Australia and England and 2.7% in Italy."

Gee... what is 0.60% of 330,000,000?
Ahhh... It's only about 2,000,000 deaths from COVID.
Presumably you would find 2 Million deaths acceptable?


We currently have had ~560,000 COVID deaths which gives a lower boundary for IFR of 560,000/330,000,000 = 0.0017 = 0.17%.
This makes the upper bound for COVID survivability to be 100-0.17 = 99.83%. We've already had a death rate 8+ times what you are claiming, Mr. "99.98% survival".
And that's if we falsely consider that 100% of the US population has been infected; which it hasn't.
.
This is why I don't argue technical aspects much here on GLP... most of the anti-science, anti-vaccine ghouls are completely innumerate and functionally illiterate.


R.
Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.
 Quoting: Reality420


We don’t know how many of those two million deaths were truly covid related. Hospitals made a lot of money by hooking people up to respirators in the beginning which killed them. And many who died from other things were listed as covid to get money as well. Greed kills. I don’t trust the numbers at all.

If covid was so bad pilots and flight crews would have been dropping dead since they are around the public constantly. They weren’t. And they are not that healthy like they use to be. And planes are filthy. I use to be a crew member and keep up with what is going on. The unions would have been all over it. Nope. There is something else going on and it is not covid related. This so called sickness is just a cold or flu ramped up some. That’s it.
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Key...riced!
Can you anti-science dummkopfs get anything right?
It isn't "two million deaths" for chrissake.
Can you read?
I cited the current 560,000 USA deaths.
The 2 million is what can be expected if the entire population becomes infected without a vaccine.
.
And of course you are now trying to make that fact disappear by invoking a delusional conspiracy which, in your fantasy world, trumps mere data and facts.
Guess what?
In the world of science there have been 560,000+ deaths due to COVID and all your kooky anti-vaccine conspiracy theories do not negate that fact.

Readers - This is why you cannot trust anything you read on this site. Hell, the GLP disclaimer even tells you that you shouldn't believe a damn word posted here.
You are talking to functionally illiterate morans and ghoulish knuckle-draggers who couldn't pass a 7th grade Earth Science course.
But they're all smarter than science PhDs with 20 years of schooling and 20 years of research in their fields.
Look up Dunning-Kruger effect. They are so dumb they don't know that they don't know.
Time for them to go back to babbling about Light Workers, Flat Earth, Nibiru, Chemtrails, Bible Quotes, etc., etc.


R.
Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.
 Quoting: Reality420



"Djvydugchcvj guuvydtst xtugifdy"

There, fixed all that for you.

You're preaching to the wrong crowd, might as well type gibberish.

Have a good evening sir/madam.
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So I was wondering what the horrible thing about this mRNA vaccine is. It seems simple and innocent and will save lives. Here’s what I got
They have been studying mRNA vaccines for 20 years now, they have tried it with Zika, the regular flu, HIV and cancer. Not one has been approved for use. It seems in trials something goes wrong. In animal trial they develop autoimmune diseases or die.

They inject us with mRNA, the mRNA binds to the outside of the cell, calling in protein to make the antibodies. The antibodies fight off the virus and all is dandy. The mRNA is then supposed to disappear into our system and not go into the cell. Some scientists have found the mRNA goes into the cell and bonds with the DNA, the DNA is like hey, your not supposed to be here and starts fighting it off. This could lead to autoimmune diseases later in life or even death right now. These scientists are quickly silenced and called quacks. The media won’t cover all of the bad reactions. Some people are strong enough to fight this off but some, like the sick and elderly can not. I guess in short, don’t get this vaccine
 Quoting: Carley 80219481


Another concern is if the body's immune system attacks the proteins before they're fully formed and starts producing prions leading to prion disease like mad cow but different. It could take months if not years to collect enough protein prion fragments to display this kind of disease.

Yet ANOTHER reason we do YEARS of trials before unleashing vaccines and medicines on the public at large.

EVERYONE and I mean absolutely EVERYONE agrees we do NOT KNOW what possible side effects will occur long term. The initial studies were done on healthy people, but many taking the shot now have co-morbidities.

Weigh the risks carefully and think for yourself.

Vitamin D, C and zinc at the slightest tickle or dry throat can do wonders.

10 minutes in direct sun in a swimsuit (no sunscreen) = 10,000 IU of vitamin D, according to an Epoch Times article.
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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


Yeah, that's why you have to sign paperwork acknowledging that you understand that it is not a vaccine and that there is no vaccine for Covid 19 before you get the jab.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79250744


What the hell are you babbling about?
Who has to sign a paper that "it is not a vaccine and that..."?
Where did you read or come up with this delusional codswallop?
.
This is like having a discussion about calculus with a 4 year old who doesn't even know the number line and believes in magic and monsters...

R.
Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.
 Quoting: Reality420


Reality 420 is either a shill or an asshole.
 Quoting: Maine Moose


And why couldn't he just be correct? Because YOU say he isn't?

A bit arrogant, isn't it?
Claiming to be a "Christian" is not the same as acting like one. We see your hypocrisy, and it is painfully obvious.

The hypocrites go to "hell" also..Calling oneself a Christian, while letting yourself be owned by hate and fear while engaging in false witness, IS hypocrisy.
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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


Thank you.
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What happens if you took the first dose but not the second. Damage still done, if any?
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I don’t think anyone knows the answer to that. But if I were one that did this I would be taking ivermectin just in case.... Amazon sells the horse kind in a paste. Check out the reviews if you decide to look into it. Best of luck... and health!
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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


It's great that you take time out of your busy schedule to visit and post here.
230 here, but 0 there.
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The way I understand it is mRNA is the blue print for the little 3D printers that print things called proteins in your cells. The trick is getting I to the cell which they do with some chemicals. Once the proteins are in the ribosomes start constructing the spike protein of the virus which your immune system sees as something bad and starts to build antibodies to attack it. Once there are no more plans being made ie the injection runs out. The spike protein stops being made. The only thing I don’t get is if your body makes the protein why does it see it as bad and as something to attack.
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EVERYONE suffering with an autoimmune disease, like myself, also wants to know exactly when an why they got so 'lucky' as to have the living hell of an autoimmune condition.

We can only imagine we understand some fragments of how the fantastically complex system works.
Nobody knows it all, at least I admit it.

'Claims' aint 'is' especially when big money and power are involved.
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Psortiatic arthritis is a bitch I’m 28 and have had it since I was 13 .
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So I was wondering what the horrible thing about this mRNA vaccine is. It seems simple and innocent and will save lives. Here’s what I got
They have been studying mRNA vaccines for 20 years now, they have tried it with Zika, the regular flu, HIV and cancer. Not one has been approved for use. It seems in trials something goes wrong. In animal trial they develop autoimmune diseases or die.

They inject us with mRNA, the mRNA binds to the outside of the cell, calling in protein to make the antibodies. The antibodies fight off the virus and all is dandy. The mRNA is then supposed to disappear into our system and not go into the cell. Some scientists have found the mRNA goes into the cell and bonds with the DNA, the DNA is like hey, your not supposed to be here and starts fighting it off. This could lead to autoimmune diseases later in life or even death right now. These scientists are quickly silenced and called quacks. The media won’t cover all of the bad reactions. Some people are strong enough to fight this off but some, like the sick and elderly can not. I guess in short, don’t get this vaccine
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the 1st paragraph says it all. trust DR FacriStein to save u. <<sarc
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Where's the rice

Spike protein gp120 is in aich eye vee

Its the protein identified in bone marrow

Giggity goop da troop

It's already related to giggity auto goop immune da troops
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why do you think they are pushing the vaccine so hard?? They know its going to harm us.
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There is no doubt about this. Here's how much they care about us.

fluoride in our water
aspartame in soft drinks
high fructose corn syrup in everything
prescription pharmaceutical for anyone interested
legal poison called alcohol
obesity off the charts
and yet people line up to be injected
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What vaccine?
Why subject yourself to an experimental technology for a "virus" with a 99.98 % survival rate.

Are you familiar what happened with previous attempts at making a corona vaccine when animals where exposed to the virus after vaccination?

It was a miserable failure....

But sure lets just stick with our "pro science" sources like CNN

Surely we wont listen to the countless doctors who are risking their lives/families/careers to warn and go against the mainstream narrative.

How did humanity ever make it this far without big pharma injections,

God given immune systems must of been such a huge flaw that it's a miracle we ever got this far.

But never fear Big Pharma has corrected God's mistake.

Now line up for your shot



"...for a "virus" with a 99.98 % survival rate."
Citation desperately needed for this.
.
BTW - The population IFR is very age dependent but is about 0.60%-0.70%
in the USA.
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
"As shown in Fig. 6, population IFR (computed across all ages) ranges from about 0.5% in Salt Lake City and Geneva to 1.5% in Australia and England and 2.7% in Italy."

Gee... what is 0.60% of 330,000,000?
Ahhh... It's only about 2,000,000 deaths from COVID.
Presumably you would find 2 Million deaths acceptable?


We currently have had ~560,000 COVID deaths which gives a lower boundary for IFR of 560,000/330,000,000 = 0.0017 = 0.17%.
This makes the upper bound for COVID survivability to be 100-0.17 = 99.83%. We've already had a death rate 8+ times what you are claiming, Mr. "99.98% survival".
And that's if we falsely consider that 100% of the US population has been infected; which it hasn't.
.
This is why I don't argue technical aspects much here on GLP... most of the anti-science, anti-vaccine ghouls are completely innumerate and functionally illiterate.


R.
Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.
 Quoting: Reality420


We don’t know how many of those two million deaths were truly covid related. Hospitals made a lot of money by hooking people up to respirators in the beginning which killed them. And many who died from other things were listed as covid to get money as well. Greed kills. I don’t trust the numbers at all.

If covid was so bad pilots and flight crews would have been dropping dead since they are around the public constantly. They weren’t. And they are not that healthy like they use to be. And planes are filthy. I use to be a crew member and keep up with what is going on. The unions would have been all over it. Nope. There is something else going on and it is not covid related. This so called sickness is just a cold or flu ramped up some. That’s it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79543875


Key...riced!
Can you anti-science dummkopfs get anything right?
It isn't "two million deaths" for chrissake.
Can you read?
I cited the current 560,000 USA deaths.
The 2 million is what can be expected if the entire population becomes infected without a vaccine.
.
And of course you are now trying to make that fact disappear by invoking a delusional conspiracy which, in your fantasy world, trumps mere data and facts.
Guess what?
In the world of science there have been 560,000+ deaths due to COVID and all your kooky anti-vaccine conspiracy theories do not negate that fact.

Readers - This is why you cannot trust anything you read on this site. Hell, the GLP disclaimer even tells you that you shouldn't believe a damn word posted here.
You are talking to functionally illiterate morans and ghoulish knuckle-draggers who couldn't pass a 7th grade Earth Science course.
But they're all smarter than science PhDs with 20 years of schooling and 20 years of research in their fields.
Look up Dunning-Kruger effect. They are so dumb they don't know that they don't know.
Time for them to go back to babbling about Light Workers, Flat Earth, Nibiru, Chemtrails, Bible Quotes, etc., etc.


R.
Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.
 Quoting: Reality420



"Djvydugchcvj guuvydtst xtugifdy"

There, fixed all that for you.

You're preaching to the wrong crowd, might as well type gibberish.

Have a good evening sir/madam.
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so facts and truth, SPECIFICALLY, are not allowed here?

I'm just trying to understand. Are people on this site PURPOSELY ignorant about science?
Claiming to be a "Christian" is not the same as acting like one. We see your hypocrisy, and it is painfully obvious.

The hypocrites go to "hell" also..Calling oneself a Christian, while letting yourself be owned by hate and fear while engaging in false witness, IS hypocrisy.
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So I was wondering what the horrible thing about this mRNA vaccine is. It seems simple and innocent and will save lives. Here’s what I got
They have been studying mRNA vaccines for 20 years now, they have tried it with Zika, the regular flu, HIV and cancer. Not one has been approved for use. It seems in trials something goes wrong. In animal trial they develop autoimmune diseases or die.

They inject us with mRNA, the mRNA binds to the outside of the cell, calling in protein to make the antibodies. The antibodies fight off the virus and all is dandy. The mRNA is then supposed to disappear into our system and not go into the cell. Some scientists have found the mRNA goes into the cell and bonds with the DNA, the DNA is like hey, your not supposed to be here and starts fighting it off. This could lead to autoimmune diseases later in life or even death right now. These scientists are quickly silenced and called quacks. The media won’t cover all of the bad reactions. Some people are strong enough to fight this off but some, like the sick and elderly can not. I guess in short, don’t get this vaccine
 Quoting: Carley 80219481


Georgia Guidestones-esque
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So I was wondering what the horrible thing about this mRNA vaccine is. It seems simple and innocent and will save lives. Here’s what I got
They have been studying mRNA vaccines for 20 years now, they have tried it with Zika, the regular flu, HIV and cancer. Not one has been approved for use. It seems in trials something goes wrong. In animal trial they develop autoimmune diseases or die.

They inject us with mRNA, the mRNA binds to the outside of the cell, calling in protein to make the antibodies. The antibodies fight off the virus and all is dandy. The mRNA is then supposed to disappear into our system and not go into the cell. Some scientists have found the mRNA goes into the cell and bonds with the DNA, the DNA is like hey, your not supposed to be here and starts fighting it off. This could lead to autoimmune diseases later in life or even death right now. These scientists are quickly silenced and called quacks. The media won’t cover all of the bad reactions. Some people are strong enough to fight this off but some, like the sick and elderly can not. I guess in short, don’t get this vaccine
 Quoting: Carley 80219481


If it can change cells it can contribute to cancer.
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How does this happen with RNA in your universe?

If this were true (It isn't.) then the SARS-CoV-2 virus that causes COVID-19 could also "contribute to cancer" but at a much higher rate since the disease infection would have your cells produce many times the spike protein that the vaccine produces.

Readers - Just try to remember what a vaccine is doing:
It is giving your body the knowledge on how to identify and defeat the dangerous invader so when you do get invaded by the virus your immune system wins the race between virus replication and immune response. It's like running the 100 meter sprint but the vaccine gives you a 50 meter head start. Generally it takes your body 10-14 days to mount a full response to a virus it has never seen. In that time the virus has had time to replicate extensively and you become very ill before your immune system can come to the rescue. Much too often your naive immune system is too late and the victim dies or is seriously harmed.
Vaccines drop that 10-14 days to around 1-2 days before your immune system starts cranking up your defenses.

This is not a game so quit listening to anonymous morons and unqualified kooks and quacks on the internet.


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 Quoting: Reality420


It is not a vaccine - it is experimental gene manipulation.
these mRNA "vaccines" not only will do nothing for covid, but they will make your body unable to fight off other disease.
Tell me.... why is Bill Gates - a KNOWN proponent of depopulation so involved in this covid scheme? He is not a medical doctor, a scientist and does not hold a degree in anything - he is a college dropout. So what would be his purpose and the purpose of the "vaccine"?
You know the answer, that is why you are here with your propaganda
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What happens if you took the first dose but not the second. Damage still done, if any?
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I don’t think anyone knows the answer to that. But if I were one that did this I would be taking ivermectin just in case.... Amazon sells the horse kind in a paste. Check out the reviews if you decide to look into it. Best of luck... and health!
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So I was wondering what the horrible thing about this mRNA vaccine is. It seems simple and innocent and will save lives. Here’s what I got
They have been studying mRNA vaccines for 20 years now, they have tried it with Zika, the regular flu, HIV and cancer. Not one has been approved for use. It seems in trials something goes wrong. In animal trial they develop autoimmune diseases or die.

They inject us with mRNA, the mRNA binds to the outside of the cell, calling in protein to make the antibodies. The antibodies fight off the virus and all is dandy. The mRNA is then supposed to disappear into our system and not go into the cell. Some scientists have found the mRNA goes into the cell and bonds with the DNA, the DNA is like hey, your not supposed to be here and starts fighting it off. This could lead to autoimmune diseases later in life or even death right now. These scientists are quickly silenced and called quacks. The media won’t cover all of the bad reactions. Some people are strong enough to fight this off but some, like the sick and elderly can not. I guess in short, don’t get this vaccine
 Quoting: Carley 80219481


Pretty much it generates a graft vs HOST condition that is permanent.
You'll all end up on steroids and biologics and chronic autoimmune disease which is a permanent nightmare.
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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
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The thing about doing your own research is having the knowledge to come to a reasonable conclusion, which 99% of this board doesn't have with any topic they discuss.
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For both statements:
Exactly.

Remember you are dealing with people who believe the earth is flat, that they are space aliens, that jetliner exhaust is deadly "chemtrails", that we are in Teh End Times (for the 2,000th time), and other even more bizarre fantasy based beliefs.

It makes no difference to the anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks that there is no mechanism for the mRNA in the vaccine to even come into contact with your nuclear DNA and, by the way, RNA and DNA are quite different chemicals and one does not interact with the other... It's called biochemistry which a moronic computer scientist wouldn't know a thing about.

They can't even do a Giggle search on "COVID mRNA vaccine" to get hundreds of webpages and RubeTube vids explaining how the mRNA vaccines work... Which is nothing like the laughable "science" these dimwits babble here on GLP.

For those who want a quick explanation:
The vaccine contains the mRNA sequence needed to make the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein... That is all it can make is that one protein. mRNA is encapsulated to protect it and to get it across the cell membrane into the cytoplasm. mRNA stays in the cytoplasm and cannot get into the cell nucleus.
 Quoting: Reality420


mRNA can get into the cell nucleus. It is rare that it does, but it can.

But this is a diversion from another problem as noted by Dr. Vanessa Schmidt-Krueger being interviewed by the German Corona Extra-Parliamentary Inquiry Committee. She is a Cell Biologist with over 20 years’ experience in molecular medicine working at the Max Delbrück Center for Molecular Medicine.

[link to enformtk.u-aizu.ac.jp]

Speaking of the process by which the spike protein mRNA is manufactured.

VSK: "They also have to analyse how strong the activity of the enzymes is; that is very important because I explained that after that the RNA is transcribed from the DNA and then the DNA has to be eliminated, it is digested by enzymes: by DNAses. And if this DNA is not digested well enough, if residues are left, this harbours risks –...

...I’ll come back to the risks from DNA residues, but the activity of the enzymes has to be monitored well and at the end you need to have a pure RNA without any more DNA. And that is not the case. BioNTech has admitted that there are DNA contaminants"...

...WW: Thank you.

VSK: To come back to Ms. Fischer’s question about the DNA. The problem is that when it contains DNA contaminants, then the situation is: well, with RNA it is relatively unlikely that it can integrate into the host’s cell nucleus...

(NOTE: she did not say impossible. Do some research and see why)

...The situation is different with DNA, and especially in this case because you have contaminants of linearised DNA. The integration of DNA into the nuclear genome is relatively rare really – many different factors have to come together for this to function. First of all the cell has to divide; if it divides properly it can’t be integrated because the cell genome is in the nucleus of the cell and this cell nucleus first has to dissolve. But it only does this when the cell is dividing. I will come back to this, because the lipid nanoparticles get into all cells, not just the muscle cells – it is an error to believe the latter.

RF: That is important, that’s what really counts.

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VSK: So it is theoretically possible that this linearised DNA that is in there as a contaminant could integrate into the host’s cell nucleus in a dividing cell, linearised DNA is optimal for integration. Circular DNA is not. DNA from bacteria is circular and is not as easy to integrate. It happens, but not so often. But as soon as you have a situation like we do here, it will happen more often. That is the risk. I didn’t really want to get into what can happen if this is the case: genes can be switched on and off, upregulated and downregulated, cancer can develop – there are a lot more possibilities. So this contamination definitely has to be reduced.

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Re: I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
Covid19 has never been properly isolated, separated, proven to attack cell structures, replicate, and induce symptoms across multiple samples in any controlled environment, ever.
Literally everything you're reading in the 'news' relies on sophositry that uses PCR tests and computer models to 'prove' the virus jumped from one sample to the next.
Those are specious metrics. They cannot prove the 'virus' was able to go airborne from one specimen to the next, attack cells and induce a specific set of symptoms (aka Disease).
Thus all we have is a rebranding of classical diseases such as bronchitis, pneumonia, tuberculosis, circulatory disease, asthma, et al as 'Covid19'. All that is required to be 'diagnosed' is a visual inspection by the 'physician' or a meaningless PCR test that cannot find a virus, because it can only find protein pieces that have never been proven to be pathogenic. In fact EVERY HUMAN will test positive should the cycles on the test run high enough. Which, using logical inference, should tell you that it is a PIECE OF YOUR OWN CELL being tested for, not a 'foreign virus'.
There is zero evidence the magic floating bean causes any of these symptoms in any controlled environment. That's why every nonsense 'study' is non scientific and fails to use the scientific method such as controls, verification, retesting, modification of hypothesis, etc. Because it's literally all nonsense using technobabble to confuse the plebes. Read the actual covid19 study contents and you will see the study itself tells a different tale from the conclusion reached in the 'abstract' (abstract, because it has no basis in physical reality, only the imagination). Additionally we are already seeing that even complying and getting the vaccine does not exempt you from wearing a mask and it will not bring any of your freedoms back pre March 20o20. There will be mutations announced and so people will be getting a wide variety of these mRNA shots annually and that is a dangerous and invasive attitude to have with a disease that is not making the mean mortality rate for the year rise.
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So I was wondering what the horrible thing about this mRNA vaccine is. It seems simple and innocent and will save lives. Here’s what I got
They have been studying mRNA vaccines for 20 years now, they have tried it with Zika, the regular flu, HIV and cancer. Not one has been approved for use. It seems in trials something goes wrong. In animal trial they develop autoimmune diseases or die.

They inject us with mRNA, the mRNA binds to the outside of the cell, calling in protein to make the antibodies. The antibodies fight off the virus and all is dandy. The mRNA is then supposed to disappear into our system and not go into the cell. Some scientists have found the mRNA goes into the cell and bonds with the DNA, the DNA is like hey, your not supposed to be here and starts fighting it off. This could lead to autoimmune diseases later in life or even death right now. These scientists are quickly silenced and called quacks. The media won’t cover all of the bad reactions. Some people are strong enough to fight this off but some, like the sick and elderly can not. I guess in short, don’t get this vaccine
 Quoting: Carley 80219481


If it can change cells it can contribute to cancer.
 Quoting: Xeven


How does this happen with RNA in your universe?

If this were true (It isn't.) then the SARS-CoV-2 virus that causes COVID-19 could also "contribute to cancer" but at a much higher rate since the disease infection would have your cells produce many times the spike protein that the vaccine produces.

Readers - Just try to remember what a vaccine is doing:
It is giving your body the knowledge on how to identify and defeat the dangerous invader so when you do get invaded by the virus your immune system wins the race between virus replication and immune response. It's like running the 100 meter sprint but the vaccine gives you a 50 meter head start. Generally it takes your body 10-14 days to mount a full response to a virus it has never seen. In that time the virus has had time to replicate extensively and you become very ill before your immune system can come to the rescue. Much too often your naive immune system is too late and the victim dies or is seriously harmed.
Vaccines drop that 10-14 days to around 1-2 days before your immune system starts cranking up your defenses.

This is not a game so quit listening to anonymous morons and unqualified kooks and quacks on the internet.


R.
Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.
 Quoting: Reality420


It is not a vaccine - it is experimental gene manipulation.
these mRNA "vaccines" not only will do nothing for covid, but they will make your body unable to fight off other disease.
Tell me.... why is Bill Gates - a KNOWN proponent of depopulation so involved in this covid scheme? He is not a medical doctor, a scientist and does not hold a degree in anything - he is a college dropout. So what would be his purpose and the purpose of the "vaccine"?
You know the answer, that is why you are here with your propaganda
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And "chemtrails" are contrails...but, you can't apparently ask people to call things by their given name.

If not a vaccine, like EVERYONE calls it...because it fits the definition, then what do you prefer it be called?

And the genes themselves are NOT "manipulated". You are confused.

And where have you heard it will prevent the body from fighting off other disease? That's just plain wrong.

And what Bill Gates was referring to was "demographic transition" which is NOT depopulation, it's a decrease in the population rate by keeping children healthy so families can remain smaller because they aren't reproducing with child death in mind.

And Bill Gates relies on the experts and their opinions. He doesn't CLAIM to be the brains behind the operation! He's just the person who fucking FUNDS it.,..because he's a philanthropist humanitarian.

What is wrong with you? You put a paranoid spin on everything! Who are you trying to influence to hate others?!

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The hypocrites go to "hell" also..Calling oneself a Christian, while letting yourself be owned by hate and fear while engaging in false witness, IS hypocrisy.





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