I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine

how long does a cell live for ? forever ? nope. new cells with replace it without any problem.

What are your credentials and peer reviewed published article ? that is study.

you researched and listened to what you want to hear.

you can hear whatever you want if you go looking for it.

especially when disinfo is being spread by enemies

I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.

so facts and truth, SPECIFICALLY, are not allowed here?

I'm just trying to understand. Are people on this site PURPOSELY ignorant about science?

For both statements:
Exactly.

Remember you are dealing with people who believe the earth is flat, that they are space aliens, that jetliner exhaust is deadly "chemtrails", that we are in Teh End Times (for the 2,000th time), and other even more bizarre fantasy based beliefs.

It makes no difference to the anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks that there is no mechanism for the mRNA in the vaccine to even come into contact with your nuclear DNA and, by the way, RNA and DNA are quite different chemicals and one does not interact with the other... It's called biochemistry which a moronic computer scientist wouldn't know a thing about.

They can't even do a Giggle search on "COVID mRNA vaccine" to get hundreds of webpages and RubeTube vids explaining how the mRNA vaccines work... Which is nothing like the laughable "science" these dimwits babble here on GLP.

For those who want a quick explanation:
The vaccine contains the mRNA sequence needed to make the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein... That is all it can make is that one protein. mRNA is encapsulated to protect it and to get it across the cell membrane into the cytoplasm. mRNA stays in the cytoplasm and cannot get into the cell nucleus.

Once in the cytoplasm the cell ribosomes hook on and read the mRNA code to assemble amino acids in the cytoplasm into the desired spike protein.
The spike protein is expressed on the surface of the cell and induces an immune response from the body to produce antibodies to the spike protein.
Voila! You have just been vaccinated.

mRNA is RNA and RNA is very fragile (unlike DNA) and rapidly falls apart when exposed to the cell environment... lasting 24 hours or less... so your vaccine stops working in a day or two. (Why 2 if it doesn't last a day? Because the unprotected RNA generally doesn't last longer than a day but the encapsulated mRNA is protected so until it is taken up by a cell and the mRNA is released it is still active... It ain't that hard to understand, is it?)

Just G**gle "COVID mRNA vaccine" and only read info from qualified science/med sites such as Johns Hopkins, Harvard, CDC, etc. Do not get your info from anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks like lawyers, comp. scientists, "internet influencers", untrained doctors, untrained scientists and engineers, etc.
There are a lot of kooks lying to you and begging you for money to help them continue lying to others.

Get your vaccine and quit listening to flat earth kooks about something as important as your health.


R.
Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.

Never said anything about not being allowed to do anything, just letting them know their tone won't get anywhere with people on here, in a friendly manner.

Are you one of these people who desperately look for something to jump on, twist and then make an issue from it?

It's an unfortunate use of thought/energy.

I think you've perhaps misunderstood, the point and escence of science is someone stating a theory, and they along with their peers try their best to disprove it, if they can't, then said theory is presumed fact.

Science is meant to be questioned, it's how we've gotten to where we are as a species.

Have a good evening sir/madam, and please try not to jump the gun with people, that's just a suggestion, not an order.

So I was wondering what the horrible thing about this mRNA vaccine is. It seems simple and innocent and will save lives. Here’s what I got
They have been studying mRNA vaccines for 20 years now, they have tried it with Zika, the regular flu, HIV and cancer. Not one has been approved for use. It seems in trials something goes wrong. In animal trial they develop autoimmune diseases or die.

They inject us with mRNA, the mRNA binds to the outside of the cell, calling in protein to make the antibodies. The antibodies fight off the virus and all is dandy. The mRNA is then supposed to disappear into our system and not go into the cell. Some scientists have found the mRNA goes into the cell and bonds with the DNA, the DNA is like hey, your not supposed to be here and starts fighting it off. This could lead to autoimmune diseases later in life or even death right now. These scientists are quickly silenced and called quacks. The media won’t cover all of the bad reactions. Some people are strong enough to fight this off but some, like the sick and elderly can not. I guess in short, don’t get this vaccine

That's exactly what I'm saying... "statistics [are] never skewed nor concocted to political (and funding) advantage"

In other words, they LIE. And yet... "trust the science!"

your dna does not fight it off

it is the fact that your cells never stop making the spike protein

it gets spewed all over your cells and your immune system never stops attacking it

mRNA can get into the cell nucleus. It is rare that it does, but it can.

But this is a diversion from another problem as noted by Dr. Vanessa Schmidt-Krueger being interviewed by the German Corona Extra-Parliamentary Inquiry Committee. She is a Cell Biologist with over 20 years’ experience in molecular medicine working at the Max Delbrück Center for Molecular Medicine.

[link to enformtk.u-aizu.ac.jp]

Speaking of the process by which the spike protein mRNA is manufactured.

VSK: "They also have to analyse how strong the activity of the enzymes is; that is very important because I explained that after that the RNA is transcribed from the DNA and then the DNA has to be eliminated, it is digested by enzymes: by DNAses. And if this DNA is not digested well enough, if residues are left, this harbours risks –...

...I’ll come back to the risks from DNA residues, but the activity of the enzymes has to be monitored well and at the end you need to have a pure RNA without any more DNA. And that is not the case. BioNTech has admitted that there are DNA contaminants"...

...WW: Thank you.

VSK: To come back to Ms. Fischer’s question about the DNA. The problem is that when it contains DNA contaminants, then the situation is: well, with RNA it is relatively unlikely that it can integrate into the host’s cell nucleus...

(NOTE: she did not say impossible. Do some research and see why)

...The situation is different with DNA, and especially in this case because you have contaminants of linearised DNA. The integration of DNA into the nuclear genome is relatively rare really – many different factors have to come together for this to function. First of all the cell has to divide; if it divides properly it can’t be integrated because the cell genome is in the nucleus of the cell and this cell nucleus first has to dissolve. But it only does this when the cell is dividing. I will come back to this, because the lipid nanoparticles get into all cells, not just the muscle cells – it is an error to believe the latter.

RF: That is important, that’s what really counts.

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VSK: So it is theoretically possible that this linearised DNA that is in there as a contaminant could integrate into the host’s cell nucleus in a dividing cell, linearised DNA is optimal for integration. Circular DNA is not. DNA from bacteria is circular and is not as easy to integrate. It happens, but not so often. But as soon as you have a situation like we do here, it will happen more often. That is the risk. I didn’t really want to get into what can happen if this is the case: genes can be switched on and off, upregulated and downregulated, cancer can develop – there are a lot more possibilities. So this contamination definitely has to be reduced.

Scientists at Sloan Kettering discover mRNA inactivates Tumor-Suppressing Proteins & likely Promotes Cancer

[link to sarahwestall.com (secure)]

Thanx for this excellent post!
So this means that with mRNA could happen reverse transcription, i.e. integration of RNA into DNA, rarely but possible AND linearised DNA contaminants of the spike protein, which also could integrate into the nucleus DNA and so switching on and off genes, after which as everyone knows, cancer can develop. And it is also known, that cancer needs it's time to develop, e.g pancreatic cancer needs about 20 years to show up deadly!
OK, for folks which are 80+ this may not be the point because they may not live long enough to acquire the negative long time effects of the vaxx, but for younger this is a cause!
Or in short: Don't take the vaxx if You're not very old, with a compromised immune system and full of comorbidities and even then, think twice!

I see statements of fact being substituted for opinion in an effort to influence others to be fearful and it disgusts me.

So I was wondering what the horrible thing about this mRNA vaccine is. It seems simple and innocent and will save lives. Here’s what I got
They have been studying mRNA vaccines for 20 years now, they have tried it with Zika, the regular flu, HIV and cancer. Not one has been approved for use. It seems in trials something goes wrong. In animal trial they develop autoimmune diseases or die.

They inject us with mRNA, the mRNA binds to the outside of the cell, calling in protein to make the antibodies. The antibodies fight off the virus and all is dandy. The mRNA is then supposed to disappear into our system and not go into the cell. Some scientists have found the mRNA goes into the cell and bonds with the DNA, the DNA is like hey, your not supposed to be here and starts fighting it off. This could lead to autoimmune diseases later in life or even death right now. These scientists are quickly silenced and called quacks. The media won’t cover all of the bad reactions. Some people are strong enough to fight this off but some, like the sick and elderly can not. I guess in short, don’t get this vaccine

Scientists at Sloan Kettering discover mRNA inactivates Tumor-Suppressing Proteins & likely Promotes Cancer

[link to sarahwestall.com (secure)]

For both statements:
Exactly.

Remember you are dealing with people who believe the earth is flat, that they are space aliens, that jetliner exhaust is deadly "chemtrails", that we are in Teh End Times (for the 2,000th time), and other even more bizarre fantasy based beliefs.

It makes no difference to the anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks that there is no mechanism for the mRNA in the vaccine to even come into contact with your nuclear DNA and, by the way, RNA and DNA are quite different chemicals and one does not interact with the other... It's called biochemistry which a moronic computer scientist wouldn't know a thing about.

They can't even do a Giggle search on "COVID mRNA vaccine" to get hundreds of webpages and RubeTube vids explaining how the mRNA vaccines work... Which is nothing like the laughable "science" these dimwits babble here on GLP.

For those who want a quick explanation:
The vaccine contains the mRNA sequence needed to make the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein... That is all it can make is that one protein. mRNA is encapsulated to protect it and to get it across the cell membrane into the cytoplasm. mRNA stays in the cytoplasm and cannot get into the cell nucleus.

Once in the cytoplasm the cell ribosomes hook on and read the mRNA code to assemble amino acids in the cytoplasm into the desired spike protein.
The spike protein is expressed on the surface of the cell and induces an immune response from the body to produce antibodies to the spike protein.
Voila! You have just been vaccinated.

mRNA is RNA and RNA is very fragile (unlike DNA) and rapidly falls apart when exposed to the cell environment... lasting 24 hours or less... so your vaccine stops working in a day or two. (Why 2 if it doesn't last a day? Because the unprotected RNA generally doesn't last longer than a day but the encapsulated mRNA is protected so until it is taken up by a cell and the mRNA is released it is still active... It ain't that hard to understand, is it?)

Just G**gle "COVID mRNA vaccine" and only read info from qualified science/med sites such as Johns Hopkins, Harvard, CDC, etc. Do not get your info from anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks like lawyers, comp. scientists, "internet influencers", untrained doctors, untrained scientists and engineers, etc.
There are a lot of kooks lying to you and begging you for money to help them continue lying to others.

Get your vaccine and quit listening to flat earth kooks about something as important as your health.


R.
Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.

For both statements:
Exactly.

Remember you are dealing with people who believe the earth is flat, that they are space aliens, that jetliner exhaust is deadly "chemtrails", that we are in Teh End Times (for the 2,000th time), and other even more bizarre fantasy based beliefs.

It makes no difference to the anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks that there is no mechanism for the mRNA in the vaccine to even come into contact with your nuclear DNA and, by the way, RNA and DNA are quite different chemicals and one does not interact with the other... It's called biochemistry which a moronic computer scientist wouldn't know a thing about.

They can't even do a Giggle search on "COVID mRNA vaccine" to get hundreds of webpages and RubeTube vids explaining how the mRNA vaccines work... Which is nothing like the laughable "science" these dimwits babble here on GLP.

For those who want a quick explanation:
The vaccine contains the mRNA sequence needed to make the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein... That is all it can make is that one protein. mRNA is encapsulated to protect it and to get it across the cell membrane into the cytoplasm. mRNA stays in the cytoplasm and cannot get into the cell nucleus.

Once in the cytoplasm the cell ribosomes hook on and read the mRNA code to assemble amino acids in the cytoplasm into the desired spike protein.
The spike protein is expressed on the surface of the cell and induces an immune response from the body to produce antibodies to the spike protein.
Voila! You have just been vaccinated.

mRNA is RNA and RNA is very fragile (unlike DNA) and rapidly falls apart when exposed to the cell environment... lasting 24 hours or less... so your vaccine stops working in a day or two. (Why 2 if it doesn't last a day? Because the unprotected RNA generally doesn't last longer than a day but the encapsulated mRNA is protected so until it is taken up by a cell and the mRNA is released it is still active... It ain't that hard to understand, is it?)

Just G**gle "COVID mRNA vaccine" and only read info from qualified science/med sites such as Johns Hopkins, Harvard, CDC, etc. Do not get your info from anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks like lawyers, comp. scientists, "internet influencers", untrained doctors, untrained scientists and engineers, etc.
There are a lot of kooks lying to you and begging you for money to help them continue lying to others.

Get your vaccine and quit listening to flat earth kooks about something as important as your health.


R.
Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.

you got the point.

And this is just one of the least potential but devastating long term side effects. The ADE and potential prion development is probably more likely.

Then again if you read deeper into that interview, you will see that the mass manufacturing process is so compromised, they are only getting 55% or so viable RNA. Lots of problems.

Then there is the short term effect that the isolate spike protein has been shown to cause it's own problems with cardiac pericytes.

And more, but that is enough for now.

AC, You seemed to have jarred a distant memory regarding COMT I learned about years ago. I'll have to go back and refresh my memory on it again :


[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

The DOD showed us their cards they are as guilty as joe hope they get a beat down and embarrassed.

you got the point.

And this is just one of the least potential but devastating long term side effects. The ADE and potential prion development is probably more likely.

Then again if you read deeper into that interview, you will see that the mass manufacturing process is so compromised, they are only getting 55% or so viable RNA. Lots of problems.

Then there is the short term effect that the isolate spike protein has been shown to cause it's own problems with cardiac pericytes.

And more, but that is enough for now.

So I was wondering what the horrible thing about this mRNA vaccine is. It seems simple and innocent and will save lives. Here’s what I got
They have been studying mRNA vaccines for 20 years now, they have tried it with Zika, the regular flu, HIV and cancer. Not one has been approved for use. It seems in trials something goes wrong. In animal trial they develop autoimmune diseases or die.

They inject us with mRNA, the mRNA binds to the outside of the cell, calling in protein to make the antibodies. The antibodies fight off the virus and all is dandy. The mRNA is then supposed to disappear into our system and not go into the cell. Some scientists have found the mRNA goes into the cell and bonds with the DNA, the DNA is like hey, your not supposed to be here and starts fighting it off. This could lead to autoimmune diseases later in life or even death right now. These scientists are quickly silenced and called quacks. The media won’t cover all of the bad reactions. Some people are strong enough to fight this off but some, like the sick and elderly can not. I guess in short, don’t get this vaccine

Herr is right , only 50% of the mrna is even useable, the rest is rna of an unknown type. Creating unknown proteins instead of the spike protein. Going from precise lab conditions to mass production did that.
50 billion to 100 billion potential mistakes in each mrn a injection.

The Protein encapsulated mRNA strand attaches to the cell wall and is then brought inside the cell where the protein shell is opened and the mRNA strand enters the cell then hijacks the cells machinery to manufacture the Corona virus spike protein which is then expelled out of the cell and adheres to the external cell wall where it is detected by the immune system. There is an on switch for the infected cell to start making the spike protein, but no off switch.....So it will make spike proteins until the cell dies.