Since when does the US military get to "refuse" vaccines? Or anything else for that matter? | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80203224 United States 04/10/2021 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since forever for experimental drugs. Apparently the general public has forgotten that Trump removed all forms of regulation for this stuff. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79205860 Wrong, if you were ordered to get in the shot line, you did it. You werent going to get into basic training without it and you werent going to go overseas if you didnt do it again. If the US military now allows a debating society on whether or not to follow orders, the US is finished. The US was already finished. The military aided in a coup. The elections are fake anyway but no one in the military did anything to stop it. “All enemies, foreign and domestic”... Agree! Both political parties, the entire U.S. government, and all NATO pact countries had a hand in the coup. TPTB won, the American Citizens lost! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80203224 United States 04/10/2021 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just because you never refused if you were even in the army so called... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75567814 doesnt mean THEY cant and wont...Doesnt matter what kind of service you are in and what branch...the right to have and keep dear and in your control your own body is completely in your realm of choice... you could have choosen not to participate back in the day...even in the event your choice meant leaving the services...still your choice... SO FUCK OFF OTHERWISE...YOUR ARGUMENT IS MUTE...IN THE END IT WAS YOUR CHOICE... GOT IT...THERE IS NO AURGUMENT...JUST YOUR FAILING TO DEAL WITH THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER...IN THE END IT W YOU WHOM DECIDED... Youre missing OPs point. His point has more to do with how much the US military has changed if soldiers are now allowed to refuse orders that they dont like. Never used to be that way and it is not really the way of an effective military. Even if you only watch war movies, have you ever seen one where the commander sits down and asks for approval from his troops for anything? OP’s point is moot because it’s not mandatory. They will be needing healthy troops for what is coming inside our borders soon. Not mandatory, unless the game plan changes because the troops resist mission orders. In that case, Covax will become mandatory for the troops, then we will see U.N. troops on the street doing the dirty work ahead. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78994785 United States 04/10/2021 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80233097 Wrong, if you were ordered to get in the shot line, you did it. You werent going to get into basic training without it and you werent going to go overseas if you didnt do it again. If the US military now allows a debating society on whether or not to follow orders, the US is finished. The US was already finished. The military aided in a coup. The elections are fake anyway but no one in the military did anything to stop it. They required orders from above from their Commander in Chief to protect them from Court Martials. Trump pussied out, not the troops. Trump not only "pussied out" on the troops, he left his supporters in the hands of the corrupt DOJ for "storming" the Congress. Trump knows the DOJ is corrupt and he knows they are going to hammer those people and yet he refused to blanket pardon them all. Trump turned out to be as useless as the corrupt swamp he pretends to hate. Pathetic. This. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79793927 United States 04/10/2021 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not licensed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77773358 It's EUA (emergency use authorized). You can't legally require people to take an unlicensed medical product. You can't require, legally or otherwise, anyone to take a licensed one either without deserving the penalty of death. It's not licensed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77773358 It's EUA (emergency use authorized). You can't legally require people to take an unlicensed medical product. You can't require, legally or otherwise, anyone to take a licensed one either without deserving the penalty of death. According to the Nuremberg code, consent has to be given before giving experimental medical treatment. [link to history.nih.gov (secure)] |
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User ID: 80134441 Germany 04/10/2021 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The vaccines are only labeled as "emergency use" so they can't mandate the troops to accept them. That is expected to change once they become FDA approved. Quoting: 75598709 FDA will not approve them. They did not when mRNA shots were tested on animals in the mid 2000, and they are just as dangerous as they were then today. Data is now rolling in from those that took the shots, and they're seeing the results and its not good. They even pulled the J&J shot. The FDA will not approve these shots. Something else will have to be developed, which is. "Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy (...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty) "Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge" "The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79429903 United States 04/10/2021 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They have always injected soldiers with all sorts of experimental shit - animals and prisoners have more rights than you do. So I am also shocked but it won't last long they'll all be getting it eventually when a new policy is drafted up. OP your attitude is weird though you seemingly think it is great to be injected with poisons and radioactive materials and LSD and every other thing the US military has done human experimentation with it is like you seem permanently duty bound to be bent over what is your deal!?! Is that what you call 'patriotism', just to take a beating from the military? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78915047 United States 04/10/2021 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had no idea what they were injecting me with. No one else did either. We were ordered to get in the shot line so we did. Its called being in the military. I was in 13 years myself and refused to get the anthrax shot. I was ordered several times to do so and several "appointments" were made for me, but I never went in to get it. I argued it was unnecessary and an assault against my person. We were supposed to get due to threat of weaponized anthrax. I showed the medical doctors a scientific paper that concluded the shot could not protect against a weaponized exposure. They said I still had to get it, I still didn't and have an honorable discharge. I fought many battles against the many, many wrongs and injustices in the military. I lost most and won a few. I don't know how I made it through without facing a Court's Martial, or worse. Some of us choose not to surrender our brains, morals and principles just because people perceive us as part of a group. Yeah, most military jobs are not combat arms and dont require much discipline. You sound like a clerk or cook. Or a sailor. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78915720 United States 04/10/2021 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Before sending me to Panama, the Army sent me through a shot line where they were shooting those shot guns in both arms at once. Both arms were bleeding by the end of the line. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80233097 If the US military now gets to "refuse" things, the US is already doomed. Back in the "Panama" days, that was still the real military. It seems we are rapidly becoming the "woke" military where orders are now just suggestions. Disastrous on the battlefield of course and why we wont win any real battles again. |
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User ID: 78176490 United States 04/10/2021 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had no idea what they were injecting me with. No one else did either. We were ordered to get in the shot line so we did. Its called being in the military. I think if they refuse, then it means they are getting out. I asked my son about the vaccine as soon as it was available to the military. He’s an Army Drill Seargant and said it’s not mandatory at all. It’s not being “refused” rather, they’re offering it but if you don’t want it, no problem. He hasn’t taken it so far and has absolutely no plans on getting out anytime soon. “If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.” Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace "But ask the animals, and they will teach you, or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you; or speak to the earth, and it will teach you, or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8 "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson revstargazer (at) hotmail.com |
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User ID: 9533334 United States 04/10/2021 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My son is in the NAVY, and based in California. The vaccine is NOT mandatory because it is not FDA approved. Most of his superiors have not taken the shot, as well as most of his unit. Some of the medical personnel have even advised against it. No one is being insubordinate. It is voluntary. Just another fact to support that this is NOT a pandemic, but simply a bad flu strain with unique unknowns. Some will have no symptoms, some will get sick, some will die. Someone stated something about an Anthrax vaccine. Anthrax is a poison. The flu is not. My personal Dr. has concurred that this is NOT a pandemic. If it was, we would not be giving the first shots to the older population that's going to be dead in approximately 10 years anyhow, but giving it to people that are in their 20s, 30s & 40s. These are the people that are going to be running the world in future years. My Dr. was also the one that told me I could take off my mask during an appointment. "If there is no open wound in the room, that mask is doing nothing". Just my experience. Please don't hate on me or my son. He's proudly serving his country. If I don't aim... no one can say I missed. |
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User ID: 80134441 Germany 04/11/2021 07:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't acknowledge that anything on planet earth has a right to force anything into my body under any circumstances. Weather the FDA, who has approved countless harmful dugs that have had to be pulled, approves it or not is completely irrelevant to me. The FDA is supposed to be an impartial body supporting the science that establishes the effectiveness and safety of a drug. However, I have a feeling folks in the FDA are not terribly comfortable with the results they are starting to see and will probably clash with the CDC and Biden Administration. If you hear of FDA officials stepping down, it's time to run to the hills. "Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy (...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty) "Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge" "The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80135661 United States 04/11/2021 07:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lots of retards believe that members of the military have No Constitutional Rights or protections and that a treasonous officer can rule without following the constitution. Even after they swear an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution which they aren't required to read. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79823926 Denmark 04/11/2021 07:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Before sending me to Panama, the Army sent me through a shot line where they were shooting those shot guns in both arms at once. Both arms were bleeding by the end of the line. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80233097 If the US military now gets to "refuse" things, the US is already doomed. Blind obedience is a thing of the past. [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] |
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