Why Derek Chauvin is GUILTY of FIRST DEGREE murder according to the law.

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Here's a report from overdoses in New Haven Connecticut

One of the overdosers ng/ml was 11 .. same as George Floyd

It can be and is a lethal amount when it's a street drug

no, it isn't. Period

Floyd did not die of opioid overdose. he had none of the symptoms.

You can find one person that died of staying the bathtub too long if you look hard enough

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Really? Because one of the overdoses in this report had the exact same NG ml as Floyd

Having fentanyl in a controlled medical situation, is completely different than getting fentanyl on the street as a hard drug.. let alone that they're combining fentanyl with other hard drugs that can kill you

I did see one time that reported Chauvin and Floyd worked together previously as security for somewhere and that Chauvin did not like Floyd at all..other than that the bigger problem is police are leaving the force in droves and quotas are way low for new recruits..this is happening in every US city..police enforcement protection is going to soon look like Death wish 3

The reason you will often hear reports of overdoses with extremely low levels of Fentynal is simple, it is often used as a cheap way to add a kick to other much more pricey opioids like heroin and percocet.

A person may die of heroin overdose with a low level of fentynol present and the result be misconstrued by laymen as death by fentynal overdose, or used as propaganda to scare potential users. The therapeutic levels used in medicine are well defined, and Floyd was way under a lethal dose. He was also exhibiting NONE of the symptoms of opioid overdose, in fact he was at the opposite end of that symptomology, rapid, deep breathing, as in panic attack. IMO Floyd was terrified of the police.

Yes. The right thing to do is make sure Chauvin is sentenced to a long term in prison. Even if he didnt intentionally kill Floyd he showed an obvious sadistic pleasure in hurting him, and I believe the evidence proves Chauvin killed him with premeditation and intent.

Or like the rest of his medical report. He was on methamphetamines which is why he was also hyped up

He was on a concoction of drugs, and not everybody reacts the same to concoction of drugs

Some people get angry, some get delusional, some pass out.. it's not a standard test

And Floyd had a bunch of drugs in his system.. and again there's a difference between medical fentanyl and street-grade fentanyl

Again, for clarity:

The recommended serum concentration for analgesia is 1–2 ng/ml and for anesthesia it is 10–20 ng/ml. Floyd was at the low end of the range used in medicine to produce anesthesia, but was an habitual user with a high tolerance. He exhibited NO SIGNS of opioid overdose. His autopsy showed a low level of oxygen in his blood and his death was caused by oxygen deprivation to both his brain and heart, asphyxia

Floyd wasn't getting fentanyl under a doctor's supervision, he was getting street level fentanyl and using at his own discretion

Fentynal is fentynal. If it shows up in a lab test as fentynal, its the same thing used in medicine.

You can keep going to your written out lines... But the fact remains, medical fentanyl under doctor supervision is not the same as street level fentanyl abuse

It's been proven you can die with 11 NG mL of fentanyl

And Floyd was also on meth which hyped him up

He was not getting medical fentanyl under Dr supervision, which is the numbers that you are using come from

Dr supervision with use of fentanyl.. completely different than getting fentanyl on the street and being a user.. which 11 NG ml has been shown to kill

Using it under a doctor's supervision or for your own abuse it's completely different

One is being monitored one is a drug user on the street.. and it's been proven that the amount that Floyd had is lethal

The level of meth in his lab results was well below the amount needed to cause any physiological effects.

It is often used to spike fake pills. Floyd exhibited NO SYMPTOMS of opioid overdose. He died because Chauvin and two other cops murdered him, in a depraved and sadistic manner

I've wasted too much time on this thread. Murder won't stick... Negligence maybe manslaughter at best... Either way there will be riots even if some how they find him guilty of murder... They'll use it as an excuse to "celebrate" by burning looting and murdering... Like I said before I have been restrained by cops.. It's not comfortable but it's not deadly either... I believe when Floyd first said he couldn't breath that was his verbal response to his heart being in distress from ALL the drugs in his system and his already poor health. You can call it murder all you want but that was NOT murder... Failure to follow procedure (if you agree he was Overdosing and Narcan should have been administered) maybe gross misconduct...

Why do you suppose none of the other officers present testified in Chauvins behalf?

I know

can you figure it out?

Sorry bro, he's not guilty. My brother weighs in at 240 and I 140. I had him kneel FULL WEIGHT on my neck and guess what...

Im typing this as we speak... I not only could breathe the entire time, I COULD TALK!!!

So now two other cops murdered him also? When did any other cops even touch him

And dude unless you're a drug addict which you might be because you seem to know so much about this... You have no idea the reactions to severe drug concoctions

I know plenty of people who have died from mixing meth and heroin and crack, or ecstasy and alcohol and Xanax

Drug concoctions kill bro

One sat on him and the other held his legs. Both did not render aid when Floyd stopped breathing. They are also indicted and will face trial.

It's up to you if you double down on defending Chauvin, but keep in mind those rioters will be justified in their own minds by it. You can't watch that video and not conclude Chauvin acted in a depraved and sadistic manner, and certainly appeared to be enjoying it, almost nutting from the looks on his face. Is that the kind of person you want loose?


Sometimes violent rebellion is the only available solution for systemic oppression when you are dealing with an oppressor who has hijacked justice, it has happened thousands of times throughout history, including the founding of this country.

Are any charged with murder? And none of this would have happened if Floyd didn't ask to be removed from the cop car.. something that the media refused to share with the US population.. they just showed that 6 minute clip not the whole 15

And why were they allowed to op out of testifying? What was their reason for being allowed to?

The fifth amendment protects them against self incrimination, and the only reason they would be afraid of incriminating themselves is if they knew they were guilty. Usually cops stick together, but this time there were multiple camera angles on their criminal acts, and many witnesses

Funny how you didn't quote the rest of my post about his drug concoctions and how yes that could absolutely kill any person

Thomas Lane and J. Alexander Kueng, who helped restrain Floyd, and Tou Thao, who stood near the others, were not initially charged. Lane, 37, Kueng, 26, and Thao, 34, are now charged with aiding and abetting second-degree murder and aiding and abetting second-degree manslaughter.

Personally i think they are all guilty of conspiring to commit a color of law murder and will eventually be tried in federal court.

Floyd did not die of an overdose, and did not exhibit any symptoms of overdose.

He died of an unconscious neck restraint and having his breathing intentionally impeded by holding him prone while handcuffed, and with pressure on his chest..

I wouldn't be surprised at all to see one or more of the cops turn states evidence in a federal prosecution. They're looking at life in a federal penitentiary for conspiracy to commit color of law murder under federal guidelines

Dude he was mixing drugs. There is no exact science on how you react to concoctions of drugs

Some people go crazy, some get delusional, some get angry, some pass out

But you are really ignorant if you're overlooking the fucking drugs in his system.. is Derek a good cop, no

But people have died with his level of drugs in their body that's a fact.. I have known a lot of people who have overdosed on concoctions like that

He had enough fentanyl to kill a person which I have already shown

You have no idea what you're talking about and it's not a race issue

Most of the folks on here are current/‘former’ Qanon and rabid Trump sycophants. They think Floyd deserved to die and don’t care about evidence. He died of an overdose and that’s that.