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Keeping it Simple - History 104

 
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I was under the impression the length of the walls is given in texts, precisely, and that a nindan is approximately 6 meters
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Are you specifically referring to Babylonian walls or the Ark?

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Pretty certain I said the walls of Babylon

" ark " is a word used to refer to a figurate number in Mesopotamian math texts
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OP, you are familiar with a double-cubit, correct ?
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I was under the impression the length of the walls is given in texts, precisely, and that a nindan is approximately 6 meters
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Are you specifically referring to Babylonian walls or the Ark?

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Pretty certain I said the walls of Babylon

" ark " is a word used to refer to a figurate number in Mesopotamian math texts
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Understood. So what point are you driving to? You want to know what the length of the walls mean - at Babylon where the city was likely rebuilt?

And possibly rebuilt to a different dimension.

In this video a man has revealed that the first Mosques were rebuilt - as I've pointed out likely after the great cataclysm.

His work deals with the idea that the Mosques never pointed to Jerusalem or Mecca but Petra.

What's significant is he shows great evidence and physical proof that the ancient Islamic buildings had to be rebuilt entirely, partially or in the case of at least one large building was never rebuilt but the foundation remains.

First 30 minutes, but if you move it up to about 23 minutes you get the gist without the introduction.


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OP, you are familiar with a double-cubit, correct ?
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Yes.

The problem with measurement systems based on body parts is covered in this short video.




That said there is likely a 'key' cubit measurement that was intended for specific purposes. A range of cubit measurements doesn't help us with a specific meaning or code.
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Just asking questions to see how much of an interest you have in the antiquities

No offense meant, asking questions tells me more about the depths of one's studies, in turn giving me a better idea of approachable topics on one's own level, instead of talking the real secrets of history, I'd start with something like a double-cubit, for example
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OP, you are familiar with a double-cubit, correct ?
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Yes.

The problem with measurement systems based on body parts is covered in this short video.




That said there is likely a 'key' cubit measurement that was intended for specific purposes. A range of cubit measurements doesn't help us with a specific meaning or code.
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Hmm, that's not really accurate

Naram-Sin's double cubit actually has a very specific length that's built on one of the most fundamental units of measurement in all of Egypt and Mesopotamia

The meter

Same with the Egyptian royal cubit rod
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OP, you are familiar with a double-cubit, correct ?
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Yes.

The problem with measurement systems based on body parts is covered in this short video.




That said there is likely a 'key' cubit measurement that was intended for specific purposes. A range of cubit measurements doesn't help us with a specific meaning or code.
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Hmm, that's not really accurate

Naram-Sin's double cubit actually has a very specific length that's built on one of the most fundamental units of measurement in all of Egypt and Mesopotamia

The meter

Same with the Egyptian royal cubit rod
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I'm familiar with the copper-alloy rod discovered in Mesopotamia.

"In 1916, during the last years of the Ottoman Empire and in the middle of World War I, the German assyriologist Eckhard Unger found a copper-alloy bar while excavating at Nippur. The bar dates from c. 2650 BC and Unger claimed it was used as a measurement standard. This irregularly formed and irregularly marked graduated rule supposedly defined the Sumerian cubit as about 518.6 mm (20.42 in)"
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But again this falls within a range of cubits.

What's your point?

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this says a double-cubit is approximately 1 meter

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"The ancient Egyptian royal cubit (meh niswt) is the earliest attested standard measure. Cubit rods were used for the measurement of length. A number of these rods have survived: two are known from the tomb of Maya, the treasurer of the 18th dynasty pharaoh Tutankhamun, in Saqqara; another was found in the tomb of Kha (TT8) in Thebes. Fourteen such rods, including one double cubit rod, were described and compared by Lepsius in 1865. These cubit rods range from 523.5 to 529.2 mm (20.61 to 20.83 in) in length and are divided into seven palms; each palm is divided into four fingers, and the fingers are further subdivided."
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this says a double-cubit is approximately 1 meter

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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And..
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this says a double-cubit is approximately 1 meter

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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And..
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Well, you said this a few posts ago:

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" Ancient lengths can be problematic. But the question boils down to the exact measurement of the meter

Was it originally derived from a pendulum??

We think so. Much like the Sumerians knowledge "

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Isn't the meter the length of Naram-Sin's double cubit ?

That was the standard in Mesopotamia for a long time, I thought you'd be familiar with it since it was used as the length of their pendulum
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this says a double-cubit is approximately 1 meter

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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And..
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Well, you said this a few posts ago:

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" Ancient lengths can be problematic. But the question boils down to the exact measurement of the meter

Was it originally derived from a pendulum??

We think so. Much like the Sumerians knowledge "

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Isn't the meter the length of Naram-Sin's double cubit ?

That was the standard in Mesopotamia for a long time, I thought you'd be familiar with it since it was used as the length of their pendulum
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Agree. Naram-Sin's gur-cube could be used to to derive an approximation of a meter.. not an exact meter as you keep trying to say.

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They're some good threads.

I was especially drawn to the one about Lalibela. It had just come up for me offline but was presented as a church(not solar temple! And not that there are 13 of them linked with tunnels no less!) And Lalibela was supposedly constructed in the 12th century....

Come on man lol.

And why was one of the temples in shape of the cross which is in fact ancient sacred geometry?


Seems more and more that these sites show us that once upon a time, we all got along, we shared the stone building knowledge too...and yet built with personal twists/tastes.

Maybe they aren't shrines to catastrophes, maybe they're shrines to astral travel routes..

Just throwing some ideas around, cause yeah, i would love to get to the point of it all.

The point of all this history mystery! It's something big. This is what they want to hide the most...
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Indeed, Begin Again....the mysteries in history.

Lalibela what a glorious place.

Hewn carved rock temples - from the top down.

[imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)]

Who does that fashizzle??
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Oh that's a neat image, all built top down eh.

The top left, supposedly built by the 'mysterious Nabataeans' 1st century ad - 3rd century bce, bottom left supposedly built by Templars 12th century ad, top right twin temples 13th century bce by Ramses II, bottom right Hindus 8th century ce...

Hmmm.
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As advanced as we are, I doubt we have the technology to do that today. Imo this is computer-guided precision carvings and our suggestion is it was done with water-jet technology.

Our water jet technology today is okay - nothing like this though and surely 700 to 2000 years ago they wouldn't have had it.

interesting!
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What we've found and you may have noticed in our various videos is an ancient codex of 13.

In reviewing many monuments 13 comes up again and again regardless of measurement system. This tells us it is no coincidence or accident and that the builders were well are of the various systems, likely because it was their systems and we see them today through what we've mistakenly believed were discovered in the last 700 years - like the metric system.
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I think most experts I've seen on these topics usually say that we dont have the technology today to do most of it...

Interesting, it has come up for me that there may be some sort of directed frequency/energy tool, for the carvings etc.

Well 700-3000 years ago...Abu Simbel is supposedly from Ramses II, born/died 1303-1213 BC(lol all the 13s). Incidentally, I was watching a video yesterday and the narrators were questioning another site attributed to Ramses II, as being much older than academia tells us....I will look for that video and post it.

Comes up over and over again that these sites are way older than we are told.

Yet, many modern religions take credit for them(like Lalibela) and the stories are backed by acadamia.

Yes! I have noticed the 13! It was in your Lalibela video too.

So what's up with the superstitions about 13, do you know when was all of that was introduced to our consciousness...with the templar stories?
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Oh I apologize, it's Karnak and Ramesses III



It would be so much easier to remember which Ramesses
did what if the re-writers could have been a little more creative with names

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Indeed, Begin Again....the mysteries in history.

Lalibela what a glorious place.

Hewn carved rock temples - from the top down.

https://imgur.com/BeYxP4D


Who does that fashizzle??
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Oh that's a neat image, all built top down eh.

The top left, supposedly built by the 'mysterious Nabataeans' 1st century ad - 3rd century bce, bottom left supposedly built by Templars 12th century ad, top right twin temples 13th century bce by Ramses II, bottom right Hindus 8th century ce...

Hmmm.
 Quoting: Begin Again.


As advanced as we are, I doubt we have the technology to do that today. Imo this is computer-guided precision carvings and our suggestion is it was done with water-jet technology.

Our water jet technology today is okay - nothing like this though and surely 700 to 2000 years ago they wouldn't have had it.

interesting!
 Quoting: Serpentine Green


What we've found and you may have noticed in our various videos is an ancient codex of 13.

In reviewing many monuments 13 comes up again and again regardless of measurement system. This tells us it is no coincidence or accident and that the builders were well are of the various systems, likely because it was their systems and we see them today through what we've mistakenly believed were discovered in the last 700 years - like the metric system.
 Quoting: Serpentine Green


I think most experts I've seen on these topics usually say that we dont have the technology today to do most of it...

Interesting, it has come up for me that there may be some sort of directed frequency/energy tool, for the carvings etc.

Well 700-3000 years ago...Abu Simbel is supposedly from Ramses II, born/died 1303-1213 BC(lol all the 13s). Incidentally, I was watching a video yesterday and the narrators were questioning another site attributed to Ramses II, as being much older than academia tells us....I will look for that video and post it.

Comes up over and over again that these sites are way older than we are told.

Yet, many modern religions take credit for them(like Lalibela) and the stories are backed by acadamia.

Yes! I have noticed the 13! It was in your Lalibela video too.

So what's up with the superstitions about 13, do you know when was all of that was introduced to our consciousness...with the templar stories?
 Quoting: Begin Again.


That's a good conclusion - Templar Knights whose real business was investigating Temples.

Not hard to see that when whatever they found under Solomon's Temple turned into a 'gold mine' for them against the Church, that the church returned fire with a legitimate attempt to make the number 13 superstitious.

AND THEN not long after, they locked enlightened thought down in a 'dark age', invaded and did unspeakable things in the America's.

If we follow the Templars and look at history through that lens we can plainly see that wars have been 'arranged' simply and specifically to find the lost ancient technology. It's a good bet that the Spanish version of the hired explorer soldiers in Jerusalem were attempting the same things in Cusco, Mexico City etc.

Did they unknowingly melt down gold technology???

We still war for the same reasons and the third reich is a great example with their sacred symbology embroidered uniforms - armed explorers.

THIS IS the greatest story on this forum and in general as it encapsulates what is wrong with our world DUE to a terrible accident in our inner solar system (asteroid belt). Everything has followed from that point in time.
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Oh that's a neat image, all built top down eh.

The top left, supposedly built by the 'mysterious Nabataeans' 1st century ad - 3rd century bce, bottom left supposedly built by Templars 12th century ad, top right twin temples 13th century bce by Ramses II, bottom right Hindus 8th century ce...

Hmmm.
 Quoting: Begin Again.


As advanced as we are, I doubt we have the technology to do that today. Imo this is computer-guided precision carvings and our suggestion is it was done with water-jet technology.

Our water jet technology today is okay - nothing like this though and surely 700 to 2000 years ago they wouldn't have had it.

interesting!
 Quoting: Serpentine Green


What we've found and you may have noticed in our various videos is an ancient codex of 13.

In reviewing many monuments 13 comes up again and again regardless of measurement system. This tells us it is no coincidence or accident and that the builders were well are of the various systems, likely because it was their systems and we see them today through what we've mistakenly believed were discovered in the last 700 years - like the metric system.
 Quoting: Serpentine Green


I think most experts I've seen on these topics usually say that we dont have the technology today to do most of it...

Interesting, it has come up for me that there may be some sort of directed frequency/energy tool, for the carvings etc.

Well 700-3000 years ago...Abu Simbel is supposedly from Ramses II, born/died 1303-1213 BC(lol all the 13s). Incidentally, I was watching a video yesterday and the narrators were questioning another site attributed to Ramses II, as being much older than academia tells us....I will look for that video and post it.

Comes up over and over again that these sites are way older than we are told.

Yet, many modern religions take credit for them(like Lalibela) and the stories are backed by acadamia.

Yes! I have noticed the 13! It was in your Lalibela video too.

So what's up with the superstitions about 13, do you know when was all of that was introduced to our consciousness...with the templar stories?
 Quoting: Begin Again.


That's a good conclusion - Templar Knights whose real business was investigating Temples.

Not hard to see that when whatever they found under Solomon's Temple turned into a 'gold mine' for them against the Church, that the church returned fire with a legitimate attempt to make the number 13 superstitious.

AND THEN not long after, they locked enlightened thought down in a 'dark age', invaded and did unspeakable things in the America's.

If we follow the Templars and look at history through that lens we can plainly see that wars have been 'arranged' simply and specifically to find the lost ancient technology. It's a good bet that the Spanish version of the hired explorer soldiers in Jerusalem were attempting the same things in Cusco, Mexico City etc.

Did they unknowingly melt down gold technology???

We still war for the same reasons and the third reich is a great example with their sacred symbology embroidered uniforms - armed explorers.

THIS IS the greatest story on this forum and in general as it encapsulates what is wrong with our world DUE to a terrible accident in our inner solar system (asteroid belt). Everything has followed from that point in time.
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Ohhh I think more often than not, the various technologies were lost to us, knowingly. :/

And I wonder if we'll ever be able to figure all of this out if we focus/believe the dates and timelines that academia gives us..

It feels like instead we should focus on building techniques and/or when the dates/timelines were actually introduced by acadamia...

For example, the youtubers, 'Mystery History', point out that the polygonal stage at Delphi, shows the dating/story to be wrong or maybe an outright lie...it must have been built much further back or if it was built more recently, it must have been a shared knowledge/culture...



How interesting is it that we have this worldwide monolithic history mystery, without a peep in any of our records about methods that would actually work to build them(did herodotus claim slaves/pullies??) yet we have such detailed, documented lineages of royalty and rulers and even their battles and conquests...

That really doesn't make any sense does it
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Oh I apologize, it's Karnak and Ramesses III



It would be so much easier to remember which Ramesses
did what if the re-writers could have been a little more creative with names

lol
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Hey good vid BA.

It's great that the Egyptians have done what they can to preserve and allow the public into many great temple sites.

It's a real shame they don't understand them and have mis-lead so many people.
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As advanced as we are, I doubt we have the technology to do that today. Imo this is computer-guided precision carvings and our suggestion is it was done with water-jet technology.

Our water jet technology today is okay - nothing like this though and surely 700 to 2000 years ago they wouldn't have had it.

interesting!
 Quoting: Serpentine Green


What we've found and you may have noticed in our various videos is an ancient codex of 13.

In reviewing many monuments 13 comes up again and again regardless of measurement system. This tells us it is no coincidence or accident and that the builders were well are of the various systems, likely because it was their systems and we see them today through what we've mistakenly believed were discovered in the last 700 years - like the metric system.
 Quoting: Serpentine Green


I think most experts I've seen on these topics usually say that we dont have the technology today to do most of it...

Interesting, it has come up for me that there may be some sort of directed frequency/energy tool, for the carvings etc.

Well 700-3000 years ago...Abu Simbel is supposedly from Ramses II, born/died 1303-1213 BC(lol all the 13s). Incidentally, I was watching a video yesterday and the narrators were questioning another site attributed to Ramses II, as being much older than academia tells us....I will look for that video and post it.

Comes up over and over again that these sites are way older than we are told.

Yet, many modern religions take credit for them(like Lalibela) and the stories are backed by acadamia.

Yes! I have noticed the 13! It was in your Lalibela video too.

So what's up with the superstitions about 13, do you know when was all of that was introduced to our consciousness...with the templar stories?
 Quoting: Begin Again.


That's a good conclusion - Templar Knights whose real business was investigating Temples.

Not hard to see that when whatever they found under Solomon's Temple turned into a 'gold mine' for them against the Church, that the church returned fire with a legitimate attempt to make the number 13 superstitious.

AND THEN not long after, they locked enlightened thought down in a 'dark age', invaded and did unspeakable things in the America's.

If we follow the Templars and look at history through that lens we can plainly see that wars have been 'arranged' simply and specifically to find the lost ancient technology. It's a good bet that the Spanish version of the hired explorer soldiers in Jerusalem were attempting the same things in Cusco, Mexico City etc.

Did they unknowingly melt down gold technology???

We still war for the same reasons and the third reich is a great example with their sacred symbology embroidered uniforms - armed explorers.

THIS IS the greatest story on this forum and in general as it encapsulates what is wrong with our world DUE to a terrible accident in our inner solar system (asteroid belt). Everything has followed from that point in time.
 Quoting: Serpentine Green


Ohhh I think more often than not, the various technologies were lost to us, knowingly. :/

And I wonder if we'll ever be able to figure all of this out if we focus/believe the dates and timelines that academia gives us..

It feels like instead we should focus on building techniques and/or when the dates/timelines were actually introduced by acadamia...

For example, the youtubers, 'Mystery History', point out that the polygonal stage at Delphi, shows the dating/story to be wrong or maybe an outright lie...it must have been built much further back or if it was built more recently, it must have been a shared knowledge/culture...



How interesting is it that we have this worldwide monolithic history mystery, without a peep in any of our records about methods that would actually work to build them(did herodotus claim slaves/pullies??) yet we have such detailed, documented lineages of royalty and rulers and even their battles and conquests...

That really doesn't make any sense does it
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You're right very little of what academia and especially Egyptology says holds water especially when a real investigation is done.

I have to laugh at that video that Mark Lehner and associates put out a few years ago purporting to re-create how the Great Pyramid was built. It didn't stay up long.

They didn't get anything right.
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To follow up on what 'Ancient Aliens' people suggest is/was nuclear technology used in ancient times at places like Mohenjo-Daro, Pakistan perhaps we should review a few ideas first.

In Genesis, as stated earlier, it relates that the Tower of Babel civilization was advanced. However for most people this idea is not consistent with academic archaeology as well as other modern institutions beliefs as it relates to timeline of human progression.

It is primarily for this reason that we have ancient alien theories. We also have ancient astronaut theories.

In the latter, this could be explained by an advanced race of humans that once lived on another planet within our solar system that is no longer present (asteroid belt location).

This forgotten race could have easily been much more advanced that we are today given their proximity in our solar system and the idea that panspermia works its way into a solar system from the outside inward - making that 5th planet an older civilization than either Mars or Earth could or would be at any given point in time relevant to advancement of intelligent species.

The idea is that this race from the 5th planet was so advanced that they no longer warred or had any of the negatives that we have today.
Furthering this idea, some of the inhabitants of this lost planet made their way here and 'jump-started' mankind by gene-assisting it with their DNA because they knew that what had destroyed their planet would become a recurring problem for Earth's inhabitants and the best way to help would be to advance them.

They obviously didn't have to do that and could have simply rode off into the sunset here. You see their biological make-up was geared for the 5th planets atmosphere and density - therefore they knew they'd become a footnote to history.

So they raised their 'gene-assisted' children here with the knowledge that they had and gifted them, the where-with-all, to build megalithic monuments and to code them with the cyclical catastrophe message.

No nuclear war or technology required for they were perhaps thousands of year more advanced than us today and would have utilized energy that was both free, renewable and safe for humans, animals and this planet.

Unfortunately scripture tells a whole 'nother story about humanity before the flood, but I ask the reader here to ponder the great megaliths - where are these in scripture besides the great pyramid? Literally dozens are simply overlooked???? Left out. Our shared history left behind.

Why?
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The fact that the bible doesn't even mention the pyramids is one of the greatest evidences against the story of moses in Egypt being fabricated. They came from Mizriam, not Egypt, which was a much smaller and more local place. They fled not the egyptians, who had no "Pharaohs" but kings, but the Mizraim king "Faraon".
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To follow up on what 'Ancient Aliens' people suggest is/was nuclear technology used in ancient times at places like Mohenjo-Daro, Pakistan perhaps we should review a few ideas first.

In Genesis, as stated earlier, it relates that the Tower of Babel civilization was advanced. However for most people this idea is not consistent with academic archaeology as well as other modern institutions beliefs as it relates to timeline of human progression.

It is primarily for this reason that we have ancient alien theories. We also have ancient astronaut theories.

In the latter, this could be explained by an advanced race of humans that once lived on another planet within our solar system that is no longer present (asteroid belt location).

This forgotten race could have easily been much more advanced that we are today given their proximity in our solar system and the idea that panspermia works its way into a solar system from the outside inward - making that 5th planet an older civilization than either Mars or Earth could or would be at any given point in time relevant to advancement of intelligent species.

The idea is that this race from the 5th planet was so advanced that they no longer warred or had any of the negatives that we have today.
Furthering this idea, some of the inhabitants of this lost planet made their way here and 'jump-started' mankind by gene-assisting it with their DNA because they knew that what had destroyed their planet would become a recurring problem for Earth's inhabitants and the best way to help would be to advance them.

They obviously didn't have to do that and could have simply rode off into the sunset here. You see their biological make-up was geared for the 5th planets atmosphere and density - therefore they knew they'd become a footnote to history.

So they raised their 'gene-assisted' children here with the knowledge that they had and gifted them, the where-with-all, to build megalithic monuments and to code them with the cyclical catastrophe message.

No nuclear war or technology required for they were perhaps thousands of year more advanced than us today and would have utilized energy that was both free, renewable and safe for humans, animals and this planet.

Unfortunately scripture tells a whole 'nother story about humanity before the flood, but I ask the reader here to ponder the great megaliths - where are these in scripture besides the great pyramid? Literally dozens are simply overlooked???? Left out. Our shared history left behind.

Why?
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The fact that the bible doesn't even mention the pyramids is one of the greatest evidences against for the story of moses in Egypt being fabricated. They came from Mizriam, not Egypt, which was a much smaller and more local place. They fled not the egyptians, who had no "Pharaohs" but kings, but the Mizraim king "Faraon".
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I think most experts I've seen on these topics usually say that we dont have the technology today to do most of it...

Interesting, it has come up for me that there may be some sort of directed frequency/energy tool, for the carvings etc.

Well 700-3000 years ago...Abu Simbel is supposedly from Ramses II, born/died 1303-1213 BC(lol all the 13s). Incidentally, I was watching a video yesterday and the narrators were questioning another site attributed to Ramses II, as being much older than academia tells us....I will look for that video and post it.

Comes up over and over again that these sites are way older than we are told.

Yet, many modern religions take credit for them(like Lalibela) and the stories are backed by acadamia.

Yes! I have noticed the 13! It was in your Lalibela video too.

So what's up with the superstitions about 13, do you know when was all of that was introduced to our consciousness...with the templar stories?
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That's a good conclusion - Templar Knights whose real business was investigating Temples.

Not hard to see that when whatever they found under Solomon's Temple turned into a 'gold mine' for them against the Church, that the church returned fire with a legitimate attempt to make the number 13 superstitious.

AND THEN not long after, they locked enlightened thought down in a 'dark age', invaded and did unspeakable things in the America's.

If we follow the Templars and look at history through that lens we can plainly see that wars have been 'arranged' simply and specifically to find the lost ancient technology. It's a good bet that the Spanish version of the hired explorer soldiers in Jerusalem were attempting the same things in Cusco, Mexico City etc.

Did they unknowingly melt down gold technology???

We still war for the same reasons and the third reich is a great example with their sacred symbology embroidered uniforms - armed explorers.

THIS IS the greatest story on this forum and in general as it encapsulates what is wrong with our world DUE to a terrible accident in our inner solar system (asteroid belt). Everything has followed from that point in time.
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Ohhh I think more often than not, the various technologies were lost to us, knowingly. :/

And I wonder if we'll ever be able to figure all of this out if we focus/believe the dates and timelines that academia gives us..

It feels like instead we should focus on building techniques and/or when the dates/timelines were actually introduced by acadamia...

For example, the youtubers, 'Mystery History', point out that the polygonal stage at Delphi, shows the dating/story to be wrong or maybe an outright lie...it must have been built much further back or if it was built more recently, it must have been a shared knowledge/culture...



How interesting is it that we have this worldwide monolithic history mystery, without a peep in any of our records about methods that would actually work to build them(did herodotus claim slaves/pullies??) yet we have such detailed, documented lineages of royalty and rulers and even their battles and conquests...

That really doesn't make any sense does it
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You're right very little of what academia and especially Egyptology says holds water especially when a real investigation is done.

I have to laugh at that video that Mark Lehner and associates put out a few years ago purporting to re-create how the Great Pyramid was built. It didn't stay up long.

They didn't get anything right.
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Oh they tried to recreate it and couldn't. Ha. I never caught that.

When it comes up, I sometimes ask the person if they know that the slaves and pulleys theory has been debunked and they usually don't.

And they're still teaching it in schools...unknowingly maybe. Hopefully
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To follow up on what 'Ancient Aliens' people suggest is/was nuclear technology used in ancient times at places like Mohenjo-Daro, Pakistan perhaps we should review a few ideas first.

In Genesis, as stated earlier, it relates that the Tower of Babel civilization was advanced. However for most people this idea is not consistent with academic archaeology as well as other modern institutions beliefs as it relates to timeline of human progression.

It is primarily for this reason that we have ancient alien theories. We also have ancient astronaut theories.

In the latter, this could be explained by an advanced race of humans that once lived on another planet within our solar system that is no longer present (asteroid belt location).

This forgotten race could have easily been much more advanced that we are today given their proximity in our solar system and the idea that panspermia works its way into a solar system from the outside inward - making that 5th planet an older civilization than either Mars or Earth could or would be at any given point in time relevant to advancement of intelligent species.

The idea is that this race from the 5th planet was so advanced that they no longer warred or had any of the negatives that we have today.
Furthering this idea, some of the inhabitants of this lost planet made their way here and 'jump-started' mankind by gene-assisting it with their DNA because they knew that what had destroyed their planet would become a recurring problem for Earth's inhabitants and the best way to help would be to advance them.

They obviously didn't have to do that and could have simply rode off into the sunset here. You see their biological make-up was geared for the 5th planets atmosphere and density - therefore they knew they'd become a footnote to history.

So they raised their 'gene-assisted' children here with the knowledge that they had and gifted them, the where-with-all, to build megalithic monuments and to code them with the cyclical catastrophe message.

No nuclear war or technology required for they were perhaps thousands of year more advanced than us today and would have utilized energy that was both free, renewable and safe for humans, animals and this planet.

Unfortunately scripture tells a whole 'nother story about humanity before the flood, but I ask the reader here to ponder the great megaliths - where are these in scripture besides the great pyramid? Literally dozens are simply overlooked???? Left out. Our shared history left behind.

Why?
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The fact that the bible doesn't even mention the pyramids is one of the greatest evidences against for the story of moses in Egypt being fabricated. They came from Mizriam, not Egypt, which was a much smaller and more local place. They fled not the egyptians, who had no "Pharaohs" but kings, but the Mizraim king "Faraon".
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Whoa that's interesting isn't it, are you going by the 'Neo Babylonian texts'?


Mizraim is the He brew and Aramaic name for the land of Egypt, with the dual suffix -āyim, perhaps referring to the "two Egypts": Upper Egypt and Lower Egypt. Mizraim is the dual form of matzor, meaning a "mound" or "fortress," the name of a people descended from Ham.[1] It was the name generally given by the He brews to the land of Egypt and its people.[2]

Neo-Babylonian texts use the term Mizraim for Egypt.[3] The name was, for instance, inscribed on the Ishtar Gate of Babylon




Kind of still on topic as far as historical deception if true but Serpentine Green, that is a good point to think about. I didn't realize there are no mention of the megaliths, in the bible.
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That's a good conclusion - Templar Knights whose real business was investigating Temples.

Not hard to see that when whatever they found under Solomon's Temple turned into a 'gold mine' for them against the Church, that the church returned fire with a legitimate attempt to make the number 13 superstitious.

AND THEN not long after, they locked enlightened thought down in a 'dark age', invaded and did unspeakable things in the America's.

If we follow the Templars and look at history through that lens we can plainly see that wars have been 'arranged' simply and specifically to find the lost ancient technology. It's a good bet that the Spanish version of the hired explorer soldiers in Jerusalem were attempting the same things in Cusco, Mexico City etc.

Did they unknowingly melt down gold technology???

We still war for the same reasons and the third reich is a great example with their sacred symbology embroidered uniforms - armed explorers.

THIS IS the greatest story on this forum and in general as it encapsulates what is wrong with our world DUE to a terrible accident in our inner solar system (asteroid belt). Everything has followed from that point in time.
 Quoting: Serpentine Green


Ohhh I think more often than not, the various technologies were lost to us, knowingly. :/

And I wonder if we'll ever be able to figure all of this out if we focus/believe the dates and timelines that academia gives us..

It feels like instead we should focus on building techniques and/or when the dates/timelines were actually introduced by acadamia...

For example, the youtubers, 'Mystery History', point out that the polygonal stage at Delphi, shows the dating/story to be wrong or maybe an outright lie...it must have been built much further back or if it was built more recently, it must have been a shared knowledge/culture...



How interesting is it that we have this worldwide monolithic history mystery, without a peep in any of our records about methods that would actually work to build them(did herodotus claim slaves/pullies??) yet we have such detailed, documented lineages of royalty and rulers and even their battles and conquests...

That really doesn't make any sense does it
 Quoting: Begin Again.


You're right very little of what academia and especially Egyptology says holds water when a real investigation is done.

I have to laugh at that video that Mark Lehner and associates put out a few years ago purporting to re-create how the Great Pyramid was built. It didn't stay up long.

They didn't get anything right.
 Quoting: Serpentine Green


Oh they tried to recreate it and couldn't. Ha. I never caught that.

When it comes up, I sometimes ask the person if they know that the slaves and pulleys theory has been debunked and they usually don't.

And they're still teaching it in schools...unknowingly maybe. Hopefully
 Quoting: Begin Again.


Japanese tried and failed back in the 90's. Got caught using modern equipment too.

The Egyptologist's pretty much fail at everything they try to re-create, from quarry to transport to construction.

They built a wooden boat using a lot of rope and could barley transport one 2.5 ton block and they didn't really show how long it took to load it.

Aswan quarry is 500 miles from the site where they would have to transport larger casing stones and then there's the 70 ton granite stones lol.

Their main problem is they are trying to re-create from the Merer Report or Scroll. That was some kind of smaller task - much, much smaller, likely some refurbishments done by an actual Pharaoh.

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To follow up on what 'Ancient Aliens' people suggest is/was nuclear technology used in ancient times at places like Mohenjo-Daro, Pakistan perhaps we should review a few ideas first.

In Genesis, as stated earlier, it relates that the Tower of Babel civilization was advanced. However for most people this idea is not consistent with academic archaeology as well as other modern institutions beliefs as it relates to timeline of human progression.

It is primarily for this reason that we have ancient alien theories. We also have ancient astronaut theories.

In the latter, this could be explained by an advanced race of humans that once lived on another planet within our solar system that is no longer present (asteroid belt location).

This forgotten race could have easily been much more advanced that we are today given their proximity in our solar system and the idea that panspermia works its way into a solar system from the outside inward - making that 5th planet an older civilization than either Mars or Earth could or would be at any given point in time relevant to advancement of intelligent species.

The idea is that this race from the 5th planet was so advanced that they no longer warred or had any of the negatives that we have today.
Furthering this idea, some of the inhabitants of this lost planet made their way here and 'jump-started' mankind by gene-assisting it with their DNA because they knew that what had destroyed their planet would become a recurring problem for Earth's inhabitants and the best way to help would be to advance them.

They obviously didn't have to do that and could have simply rode off into the sunset here. You see their biological make-up was geared for the 5th planets atmosphere and density - therefore they knew they'd become a footnote to history.

So they raised their 'gene-assisted' children here with the knowledge that they had and gifted them, the where-with-all, to build megalithic monuments and to code them with the cyclical catastrophe message.

No nuclear war or technology required for they were perhaps thousands of year more advanced than us today and would have utilized energy that was both free, renewable and safe for humans, animals and this planet.

Unfortunately scripture tells a whole 'nother story about humanity before the flood, but I ask the reader here to ponder the great megaliths - where are these in scripture besides the great pyramid? Literally dozens are simply overlooked???? Left out. Our shared history left behind.

Why?
 Quoting: Serpentine Green


The fact that the bible doesn't even mention the pyramids is one of the greatest evidences against for the story of moses in Egypt being fabricated. They came from Mizriam, not Egypt, which was a much smaller and more local place. They fled not the egyptians, who had no "Pharaohs" but kings, but the Mizraim king "Faraon".
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Whoa that's interesting isn't it, are you going by the 'Neo Babylonian texts'?


Mizraim is the He brew and Aramaic name for the land of Egypt, with the dual suffix -āyim, perhaps referring to the "two Egypts": Upper Egypt and Lower Egypt. Mizraim is the dual form of matzor, meaning a "mound" or "fortress," the name of a people descended from Ham.[1] It was the name generally given by the He brews to the land of Egypt and its people.[2]

Neo-Babylonian texts use the term Mizraim for Egypt.[3] The name was, for instance, inscribed on the Ishtar Gate of Babylon




Kind of still on topic as far as historical deception if true but Serpentine Green, that is a good point to think about. I didn't realize there are no mention of the megaliths, in the bible.
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Thanks BA and AC 5065.

My inquizition here about other pyramids and or pyramid temples not covered in ancient texts was perhaps not stated right.

There actually are pyramid sites mention in scripture. In fact we put some of them in this video (G1 and Teo).. they may seem subtle and without proper names like Teotihuacan or Khufu's Pyramid - but they do mention pyramid and temples.

See if we can't make a meme with some pics and scripture attached.


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The fact that the bible doesn't even mention the pyramids is one of the greatest evidences against for the story of moses in Egypt being fabricated. They came from Mizriam, not Egypt, which was a much smaller and more local place. They fled not the egyptians, who had no "Pharaohs" but kings, but the Mizraim king "Faraon".
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I don't think we can completely rule Moses out. The story doesn't make a lot of sense in places but parts of it could simply be parables.

For instance 600,000 people wandering the desert for 40 years, when they crossed a path that could have taken 3 weeks.

6+4+3 = 13

His coming down a mountain with tablets. Might that have been a mountain temple or pyramid and might he have had some kind of Mesopotamian tablet with cuneiform.

And then there's the golden idols.. and the serpent on the cross. can't really disclose that one but it deals with the solar micro-nova.

Mount Nebo's Serpentine Cross
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Mount Nebo..
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The fact that the bible doesn't even mention the pyramids is one of the greatest evidences against for the story of moses in Egypt being fabricated. They came from Mizriam, not Egypt, which was a much smaller and more local place. They fled not the egyptians, who had no "Pharaohs" but kings, but the Mizraim king "Faraon".
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I don't think we can completely rule Moses out. The story doesn't make a lot of sense in places but parts of it could simply be parables.

For instance 600,000 people wandering the desert for 40 years, when they crossed a path that could have taken 3 weeks.

6+4+3 = 13

His coming down a mountain with tablets. Might that have been a mountain temple or pyramid and might he have had some kind of Mesopotamian tablet with cuneiform.

And then there's the golden idols.. and the serpent on the cross. can't really disclose that one but it deals with the solar micro-nova.

Mount Nebo's Serpentine Cross
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Mount Nebo..
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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I was looking through the pics of Mount Nebo and this pic from the chapel jumped out, do you see what I see, are those lingams!?

:mtnebu:

Are you familiar with lingams/yonnis? Essentially, there will be a cylindrical shaped stone that sits on a stone base(circular/square) with a hole in the center..

They're found all over Ancient Vedic sites..(including Angkor Wat, and others that are attributed to Buddhists)

They seem to be some sort of energy generating device... Here are few interesting videos to get an idea of what the few that are still used/working(?) are able to do and also the different styles:




this lingam has the grooves like the 4 center pieces at Mount Nebo!





Back to the 'chapel' pic, the 4 in the center are compete lingams/yonnis, the back wall is littered with lingams and/or fragments of lingams and the entrance to the platform has 2 large yonnis with missing lingams... which also gives the rectangular entrance/cut-out that yonnis have..
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The fact that the bible doesn't even mention the pyramids is one of the greatest evidences against for the story of moses in Egypt being fabricated. They came from Mizriam, not Egypt, which was a much smaller and more local place. They fled not the egyptians, who had no "Pharaohs" but kings, but the Mizraim king "Faraon".
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Whoa that's interesting isn't it, are you going by the 'Neo Babylonian texts'?


Mizraim is the He brew and Aramaic name for the land of Egypt, with the dual suffix -āyim, perhaps referring to the "two Egypts": Upper Egypt and Lower Egypt. Mizraim is the dual form of matzor, meaning a "mound" or "fortress," the name of a people descended from Ham.[1] It was the name generally given by the He brews to the land of Egypt and its people.[2]

Neo-Babylonian texts use the term Mizraim for Egypt.[3] The name was, for instance, inscribed on the Ishtar Gate of Babylon




Kind of still on topic as far as historical deception if true but Serpentine Green, that is a good point to think about. I didn't realize there are no mention of the megaliths, in the bible.
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Thanks BA and AC 5065.

My inquizition here about other pyramids and or pyramid temples not covered in ancient texts was perhaps not stated right.

There actually are pyramid sites mention in scripture. In fact we put some of them in this video (G1 and Teo).. they may seem subtle and without proper names like Teotihuacan or Khufu's Pyramid - but they do mention pyramid and temples.

See if we can't make a meme with some pics and scripture attached.


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Ahhh, so sort of an allegorical mention but not specifically noted by name or size or construction of. Huh.

I'm still being prompted to wonder about that Ishtar Gate at Babylon being inscribed with 'Mizraim'...I wonder if we have that story documented at all.
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Ohhh I think more often than not, the various technologies were lost to us, knowingly. :/

And I wonder if we'll ever be able to figure all of this out if we focus/believe the dates and timelines that academia gives us..

It feels like instead we should focus on building techniques and/or when the dates/timelines were actually introduced by acadamia...

For example, the youtubers, 'Mystery History', point out that the polygonal stage at Delphi, shows the dating/story to be wrong or maybe an outright lie...it must have been built much further back or if it was built more recently, it must have been a shared knowledge/culture...



How interesting is it that we have this worldwide monolithic history mystery, without a peep in any of our records about methods that would actually work to build them(did herodotus claim slaves/pullies??) yet we have such detailed, documented lineages of royalty and rulers and even their battles and conquests...

That really doesn't make any sense does it
 Quoting: Begin Again.


You're right very little of what academia and especially Egyptology says holds water when a real investigation is done.

I have to laugh at that video that Mark Lehner and associates put out a few years ago purporting to re-create how the Great Pyramid was built. It didn't stay up long.

They didn't get anything right.
 Quoting: Serpentine Green


Oh they tried to recreate it and couldn't. Ha. I never caught that.

When it comes up, I sometimes ask the person if they know that the slaves and pulleys theory has been debunked and they usually don't.

And they're still teaching it in schools...unknowingly maybe. Hopefully
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Japanese tried and failed back in the 90's. Got caught using modern equipment too.

The Egyptologist's pretty much fail at everything they try to re-create, from quarry to transport to construction.

They built a wooden boat using a lot of rope and could barley transport one 2.5 ton block and they didn't really show how long it took to load it.

Aswan quarry is 500 miles from the site where they would have to transport larger casing stones and then there's the 70 ton granite stones lol.

Their main problem is they are trying to re-create from the Merer Report or Scroll. That was some kind of smaller task - much, much smaller, likely some refurbishments done by an actual Pharaoh.
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They got caught using modern equipment and still failed!

Scoundrels.

I wonder if they were disgraced out of their science careers or maybe catapulted to a higher level. Lol.
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