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Moderna had "safety problems" with their mRNA trials in 2017 - but everything's fine now

 
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Moderna had "safety problems" with their mRNA trials in 2017 - but everything's fine now
From STAT News in January 2017:

"Lavishly funded Moderna hits safety problems in bold bid to revolutionize medicine"

[link to www.statnews.com (secure)]


Some major players in the pharmaceutical industry injected big bucks into Moderna to kick off their mRNA research. Are you surprised to learn that it didn't go well?
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Moderna has been very secretive about trials of their "miraculous" mRNA tech. I wonder why?
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"Moderna Therapeutics, the most highly valued private company in biotech, has run into troubling safety problems with its most ambitious therapy, STAT has learned — and is now banking on a mysterious new technology to keep afloat its brash promise of reinventing modern medicine."

The article says that the company had to abort their mRNA trials before they got to human testing because of "troubling" safety problems. Now they're doing lots of human trials. Lots and lots.
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Uh, Yeah. Everything is not fine. That's why they had Trumpy boy deregulate the entire industry and make them immune to prosecution.
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Re: Moderna had "safety problems" with their mRNA trials in 2017 - but everything's fine now
All mRNA vaccine research had safety problems.

So, the fact they're bringing it out now says either:

A) They want you dead

B) COVID is worse than they're telling you

or

C) They don't care about you. They just want money. Lots of money.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

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Dead ferrets tell no tales.
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Re: Moderna had "safety problems" with their mRNA trials in 2017 - but everything's fine now
All mRNA vaccine research had safety problems.

So, the fact they're bringing it out now says either:

A) They want you dead

B) COVID is worse than they're telling you

or

C) They don't care about you. They just want money. Lots of money.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Well Covid clearly isn't that bad. In fact it's about as bad as a common cold. So It's either A or C. Maybe both.
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Re: Moderna had "safety problems" with their mRNA trials in 2017 - but everything's fine now
From STAT News in January 2017:

"Lavishly funded Moderna hits safety problems in bold bid to revolutionize medicine"

[link to www.statnews.com (secure)]


Some major players in the pharmaceutical industry injected big bucks into Moderna to kick off their mRNA research. Are you surprised to learn that it didn't go well?
 Quoting: Buck Fiden



* bfrank 
JANUARY 11, 2017 AT 8:37 PM 

starting to unravel? Wasn’t Bancel Fired from Biomerieux as well.
* Get the popcorn, starting to get interesting…


* B Short 
JANUARY 10, 2017 AT 10:53 AM 

I am a big fan of STAT News. It provides the best pharmaceutical articles of any publications. What would round off this article would be a brief discussion of the bios of the characters involved. S Bancel does not have a scientific degree. His background is in manufacturing and supply chain. His right hand, and president of Moderna, is an MD who seem to have never practiced, according to the bio on the website, but went to “advise” companies on behalf of McKinsey and company. So none of the two top leaders have an education or background in research.


* B Short 
JANUARY 10, 2017 AT 10:32 AM 

“mRNA is like software: You can just turn the crank and get a lot of products going into development.” — that statement in itself would disqualify someone from being hired at a serious research organization.


* Tapani 
JANUARY 10, 2017 AT 1:03 PM 

Exactly! Crank – LOL! And firing bench scientists after unsuccessful experiments shows amazing lack of understanding of scientific progress.


* B Short 
JANUARY 10, 2017 AT 10:28 AM 

“workplace accolades from Science Magazine and The Boston Globe” — yeah.. we all know the “value” of those accolades..


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Moderna has been very secretive about trials of their "miraculous" mRNA tech. I wonder why?
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ModeRNA = MODified RNA

hmmm
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Moderna has been very secretive about trials of their "miraculous" mRNA tech. I wonder why?
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ModeRNA = MODified RNA

hmmm
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Damn.

damned
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2017 !!?? They told us that Civid started in 2019. Why research a med two years before the pandemic started ?
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2017 !!?? They told us that Civid started in 2019. Why research a med two years before the pandemic started ?
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mRNA isn't specific type of med you dingus.
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2017 !!?? They told us that Civid started in 2019. Why research a med two years before the pandemic started ?
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SARS 2003 and MERS 2012 - both are corona virus.
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Dead ferrets tell no tales.
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epiclol
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2017 !!?? They told us that Civid started in 2019. Why research a med two years before the pandemic started ?
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mRNA isn't specific type of med you dingus.
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Yeah. ModeRNA's delivery system is "generic" so to speak. They started out hoping to have a cancer drug. They can put whatever code they want in the package.

Since all the Moderna injections are a trial, and they face no liability for anything they do (Thanks Trump.) They can put code X in the vaccine that goes to Florida, and code Y in the vaccine that goes to California. Then rub their hands together and grin.
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Re: Moderna had "safety problems" with their mRNA trials in 2017 - but everything's fine now
All mRNA vaccine research had safety problems.

So, the fact they're bringing it out now says either:

A) They want you dead

B) COVID is worse than they're telling you

or

C) They don't care about you. They just want money. Lots of money.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


It's C and A
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Re: Moderna had "safety problems" with their mRNA trials in 2017 - but everything's fine now
All mRNA vaccine research had safety problems.

So, the fact they're bringing it out now says either:

A) They want you dead

B) COVID is worse than they're telling you

or

C) They don't care about you. They just want money. Lots of money.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


b) Nothing indicates that. If there is a threat that the "vaccines" protect against (and not any alternative options, existing medicine), then it is not what the call "Covid-19" and what they base masks and lockdowns on.
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Great find, OP! I think this is the money quote:

“ His presentation instead focused on four vaccines that the company is moving through the first phase of clinical trials: two target strains of influenza, a third is for Zika virus, and the fourth remains a secret.”
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It was under the microscope of all Research groups Globally, money was not a problem and so everything is fine now as you also admitted.

See no problem actually, can you elaborate on that?
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TRUMP did not protect vaccine makers, it was way before.

According to 42 U.S. Code § 300aa–22, "No vaccine manufacturer shall be liable in a civil action for damages arising from a vaccine-related injury or death associated with the administration of a vaccine after October 1, 1988, if the injury or death resulted from side effects that were unavoidable even though the vaccine was properly prepared and was accompanied by proper directions and warnings."

In other words, companies that manufacture vaccines are not liable if someone has an allergic reaction or injury after being vaccinated.

However, individuals can file a petition with the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP) administered by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to receive compensation if they are found to have been injured by one of the vaccines covered by VICP. According to the Health Resources and Services Administration under HHS, "even in cases in which such a finding is not made, petitioners may receive compensation through a settlement."

VICP, also known as "vaccine court" has been accepting petitions, also known as claims, since 1988, and has paid about $4.4 billion in overall compensation, according to CNBC.

Though VICP covers vaccines for diseases including human papillomavirus (HPV), measles, mumps, polio and seasonal influenza, it does not cover any COVID-19 vaccines.

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Imagine that they managed to quickly in less than a month, end the phase trials for the safety of the vaccine for ages between 10-15 and they have already submitted the papers for Emergency Use Authorization for vaccinating the children between ages 10-15.

In less than a month!, they are fantastic!
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Re: Moderna had "safety problems" with their mRNA trials in 2017 - but everything's fine now
All mRNA vaccine research had safety problems.

So, the fact they're bringing it out now says either:

A) They want you dead

B) COVID is worse than they're telling you

or

C) They don't care about you. They just want money. Lots of money.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Well Covid clearly isn't that bad. In fact it's about as bad as a common cold. So It's either A or C. Maybe both.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79058353


Clearly you are full of shit. Covid isn’t as bad as our governments are trying to make it out to be, but it is bad... and has killed a lot more people than the common cold.

My wife, daughter and myself got it just before Christmas. Tough couple of weeks for my daughter and myself... but we got over it without any medical help. unfortunately, it did damage to my wife’s heart. Serious damage and this time yesterday morning paramedics were in our bedroom trying to get her vitals under control... and off to the hospital for the third time in a couple of months.

Healthy 40 year old woman with no previous heart or medical issues.

They say this is temporary.... it will subside eventually.

But a typical cold would not have caused this.
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Imagine that they managed to quickly in less than a month, end the phase trials for the safety of the vaccine for ages between 10-15 and they have already submitted the papers for Emergency Use Authorization for vaccinating the children between ages 10-15.

In less than a month!, they are fantastic!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79830321


Now under this new reliable data, schools and Governments, should make vaccination mandatory for all kids of age 10-15, ASAP, the cure must save us all, all must have a chance to the cure!

Cure kneel meme please asked.
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Dead ferrets tell no tales.
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dupont had safety problem when they started teflon , if you dont look at the disfigured baby you dont see a disfigured baby . i suppose the same goes for the politics of mrna vaccines .. its only a big pile of dead bodies if you look at it
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everything is fine. trust your government. trust big pharma. trust everyone but yourself.

they know best.

you weren't ingrained with a sense of inner knowledge.

you need experts to tell you what to think and do.

you have no inner voice.

you have no immune system.

god made you all wrong

but he made the experts and elites just fine.

you should listen to them..

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[link to thewashingtonstandard.com (secure)]

Bombshell: Moderna Chief Medical Officer Admits MRNA Alters DNA
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Yeah but they had to get their vax out there at the same time as Pfizer because if they didn’t, think of all the money they’d of lost!! We just can’t have that! Profits ALWAYS need to come before safety!!

Haven’t you guys read your “Power and Money are all that matters” handbooks lately?? Geez!!!

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