How to respond to someone else that has your wireless device, LOUIS STYLE! | |
Louis in Richmond
(OP) That is my arm now; broken for 7 months User ID: 77416134 United States 04/18/2021 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Things like this when handling information is sloppy and could be used for many reasons from gaining access to internal systems to blackmailing Government people is very poor security to say the least. Quoting: No Clue 74854347 If any device that is Government property that handles sensitive information should have a failsafe back door that can be accessed by the IT that originally formatted the system and can be shut down immediately by encryption rendering it useless to anyone who will try to gain access to the programs in case of such issues, not once it's repaired be able to gain any type of access. There's too many variables here that have gone wrong in many ways. I actually wrote a very lengthy reply to this for the past hour that explained how this is handled without compromising security but something in it is not passing the word filter. So most of it was lost. Until your military service has required you neutralize enemy combatants and invaders in the defense of your country, don't presume to tell us that have defended you that you don't support every shot we fired to eliminate that enemy. |
No Clue User ID: 72188234 United States 04/18/2021 07:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Things like this when handling information is sloppy and could be used for many reasons from gaining access to internal systems to blackmailing Government people is very poor security to say the least. Quoting: No Clue 74854347 If any device that is Government property that handles sensitive information should have a failsafe back door that can be accessed by the IT that originally formatted the system and can be shut down immediately by encryption rendering it useless to anyone who will try to gain access to the programs in case of such issues, not once it's repaired be able to gain any type of access. There's too many variables here that have gone wrong in many ways. I actually wrote a very lengthy reply to this for the past hour that explained how this is handled without compromising security but something in it is not passing the word filter. So most of it was lost. Piss poor security is no excuse. |
PinkOrchid-#ALLSTOP
User ID: 80239049 Australia 04/18/2021 07:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Louis, something to tickle your fancy :- This is what happens when you help sheep. No pun intended. Warning proceeding to read this may cause anxiety, poster is indemnified if you proceed. I can't give you the ultimate truth ,it's all a matter of perspective and spin. So I empower you with the gift of discernment. SEE THE TRUTH , KNOW THE TRUTH, FEEL THE TRUTH |
Louis in Richmond
(OP) That is my arm now; broken for 7 months User ID: 77416134 United States 04/18/2021 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wise move! Until your military service has required you neutralize enemy combatants and invaders in the defense of your country, don't presume to tell us that have defended you that you don't support every shot we fired to eliminate that enemy. |
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Militant Bitch User ID: 80054807 United States 04/18/2021 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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Militant Bitch User ID: 80054807 United States 04/18/2021 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and lol there just left a bf dangling in the water |
Louis in Richmond
(OP) That is my arm now; broken for 7 months User ID: 77416134 United States 04/18/2021 07:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trying this again a second time, but I have much to retype... Potentially sensitive information is in an encrypted partition that can be instantly remote wiped if the device is lost. And the people that say you cannot access sensitive information remotely, exactly how do you think the government or any business works from home securely? We can use point to point VeePeeEhn or dedicated WAN links, in my case I VeePeeEhn and can add additional devices to the tunnel I create. My laptop uses encrypted DNS run against secure gov servers--this is important because a malware package may be implanted upon a target host by means of DNS lookups and anti-virus doesn't check for this. Here's how it works: You want to browse to www.somewebsite.com Www.somewebsite.com's DNS SOA records point to a server they control. You click the link or type the URL and instead of receiving the IP address of the desired Internet host you are sent the code that they wish to run on your PC or laptop while also giving you the IP address of www.somewebsite.com. You continue to the site and browse and usually unaware a malware package was delivered by the DNS lookup. <--This is how systems are remotely compromised. We did this to a heavily secured LINUX server last summer and were able to gain root access to it by sending malformed DNS replies to it. We actually train for this. Last Edited by Louis in Richmond on 04/18/2021 07:54 PM Until your military service has required you neutralize enemy combatants and invaders in the defense of your country, don't presume to tell us that have defended you that you don't support every shot we fired to eliminate that enemy. |
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Zovalex
User ID: 77432258 United States 04/18/2021 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Perhaps the best lesson here is do not ever lose custody of any device or cell phone you have used and NEVER trade one in for a 'discount' on a new device as a factory reset removes NONE of your information from the device. Quoting: Louis in Richmond Of the hundreds of millions of devices traded in or sold every year, how does a person on the back end who is receiving the device determine which ones are hack-worthy? . Last Edited by Zovalex on 04/18/2021 07:57 PM “Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery. It gives you the illusion of freedom, makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor, while making an enemy of those who are trying to free you or open your eyes.” -Fiyah “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” -Johann Wolfgang von Goethe “You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.” -SOL |
PinkOrchid-#ALLSTOP
User ID: 80239049 Australia 04/18/2021 07:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Perhaps the best lesson here is do not ever lose custody of any device or cell phone you have used and NEVER trade one in for a 'discount' on a new device as a factory reset removes NONE of your information from the device. Quoting: Louis in Richmond Of the hundreds of millions of devices traded in or sold every year, how does a hacker determine which ones are hack-worthy? . Easy , ex-government ones ask Hillary. Warning proceeding to read this may cause anxiety, poster is indemnified if you proceed. I can't give you the ultimate truth ,it's all a matter of perspective and spin. So I empower you with the gift of discernment. SEE THE TRUTH , KNOW THE TRUTH, FEEL THE TRUTH |
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Louis in Richmond
(OP) That is my arm now; broken for 7 months User ID: 77416134 United States 04/18/2021 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Continued from above... The phone itself does not contain sensitive information. Prior to logging into Windows I must first log into the VeePeeEhn and that will not happen unless my laptop has an expected IP address, in my case Alexandria Virginia on an approved device. But that is not where authentication ends, before I may actually open anything such as mail or documents or access the gov WAN I must authenticate by fingerprint or Iris scan and the phone doing that authentication must also be pre-authorized. And in addition to that preauthorization GPS data must show I am in an expected location and only then will it give a password or in my case open an authenticator app where I must select the proper choice for access to complete. I did lose some of what was previously typed but got the gist of it across. Last Edited by Louis in Richmond on 04/18/2021 08:57 PM Until your military service has required you neutralize enemy combatants and invaders in the defense of your country, don't presume to tell us that have defended you that you don't support every shot we fired to eliminate that enemy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80260390 United States 04/18/2021 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We all have broken or lost a phone or tablet, sometimes even a laptop!!! I'm a nice guy, an old man. I have never hidden I have a gov job--I work for you the tax payers, and I believe in justice delivered without warning where appropriate. Quoting: Louis in Richmond When my Samsung tablet was returned for replacement / destruction a few years ago AT&T gave me a new one. That should have been it, right? It was now gone forever. Then six months later I received an email from Samsung stating someone was trying to access my account via that tablet from the Ukraine. The email contained links that gave me a choice to disable alerts or permanently disable that tablet so it could not be reloaded with any OS or ever used. So I nuked it of course. Lets fast forward to today. I'm trying to use my laptop as the controller and 'secondary display over wireless' of any type for my old phone as I await the new one arriving. I noticed my network connected Surface 3 LTE appeared twice in my devices. The first one whose screen was shattered was returned to M$ for a replacement, which they sent to me. Again I was assured the broken device would be destroyed. While it no longer has access to my accounts it could still accept commands from me. I see this logged into my MS Gov Admin account... [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] There is only one possible response to such an afront by another daring to access a device I maintained control over. HAPPY MONDAY MORNING WHEN YOU TRY TO USE IT TOMORROW YOU CHEAP EXCUSE FOR GHANDI... [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] And yes, I have locked the device to prevent their using it again. Good luck using it to provide 'Offshore' customer support in their job tomorrow. It would have been more impactful if you woulda called him a 'ben chode', OP. Make a note for the next time. YW |
Louis in Richmond
(OP) That is my arm now; broken for 7 months User ID: 77416134 United States 04/18/2021 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am truly glad to see you rewind. Until your military service has required you neutralize enemy combatants and invaders in the defense of your country, don't presume to tell us that have defended you that you don't support every shot we fired to eliminate that enemy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79627544 United States 04/18/2021 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, you're like Ron Swanson on "Parks and Rec" you're a right-winger who hates the government ... yet ... you work for the .gov , and get a paycheck from the taxpayers ... while bitching about taxes and people getting taxpayer money? got it |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79265938 United States 04/18/2021 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
beeches
User ID: 78973486 United States 04/18/2021 08:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, you're like Ron Swanson on "Parks and Rec" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79627544 you're a right-winger who hates the government ... yet ... you work for the .gov , and get a paycheck from the taxpayers ... while bitching about taxes and people getting taxpayer money? got it don't know your tv/vid reference DO know every conservative in government is a treasure Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
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Louis in Richmond
(OP) That is my arm now; broken for 7 months User ID: 77416134 United States 04/18/2021 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you very much. I was verklempt behind the word filter and did not include what security term it disallowed. Until your military service has required you neutralize enemy combatants and invaders in the defense of your country, don't presume to tell us that have defended you that you don't support every shot we fired to eliminate that enemy. |
Louis in Richmond
(OP) That is my arm now; broken for 7 months User ID: 77416134 United States 04/18/2021 08:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Louis, something to tickle your fancy :- Quoting: PinkOrchid-#ALLSTOP This is what happens when you help sheep. No pun intended. OMG that is funny. Yes. Some are beyond help. You sir just entered my book of cool. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79265938 Not the FONZ cool, yet, but definately Sam Malone cool! And your post was not missed! Last Edited by Louis in Richmond on 04/18/2021 08:18 PM Until your military service has required you neutralize enemy combatants and invaders in the defense of your country, don't presume to tell us that have defended you that you don't support every shot we fired to eliminate that enemy. |
Red John
User ID: 39896274 Canada 04/18/2021 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79627544 United States 04/18/2021 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, you're like Ron Swanson on "Parks and Rec" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79627544 you're a right-winger who hates the government ... yet ... you work for the .gov , and get a paycheck from the taxpayers ... while bitching about taxes and people getting taxpayer money? got it don't know your tv/vid reference DO know every conservative in government is a treasure you would love Ron Swanson |
Louis in Richmond
(OP) That is my arm now; broken for 7 months User ID: 77416134 United States 04/18/2021 08:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will be back. Something to eat now after breakfast yesterday is a must, behind being diabetic and know when I must take care of me. Until your military service has required you neutralize enemy combatants and invaders in the defense of your country, don't presume to tell us that have defended you that you don't support every shot we fired to eliminate that enemy. |
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Militant Bitch User ID: 80054807 United States 04/18/2021 08:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
beeches
User ID: 78973486 United States 04/18/2021 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, you're like Ron Swanson on "Parks and Rec" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79627544 you're a right-winger who hates the government ... yet ... you work for the .gov , and get a paycheck from the taxpayers ... while bitching about taxes and people getting taxpayer money? got it don't know your tv/vid reference DO know every conservative in government is a treasure you would love Ron Swanson will have to look into this! my sister had a bumper sticker "..... for President" it was some woman who was on that show Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
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d1k
User ID: 34861178 Canada 04/18/2021 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We all have broken or lost a phone or tablet, sometimes even a laptop!!! I'm a nice guy, an old man. I have never hidden I have a gov job--I work for you the tax payers, and I believe in justice delivered without warning where appropriate. Quoting: Louis in Richmond When my Samsung tablet was returned for replacement / destruction a few years ago AT&T gave me a new one. That should have been it, right? It was now gone forever. Then six months later I received an email from Samsung stating someone was trying to access my account via that tablet from the Ukraine. The email contained links that gave me a choice to disable alerts or permanently disable that tablet so it could not be reloaded with any OS or ever used. So I nuked it of course. Lets fast forward to today. I'm trying to use my laptop as the controller and 'secondary display over wireless' of any type for my old phone as I await the new one arriving. I noticed my network connected Surface 3 LTE appeared twice in my devices. The first one whose screen was shattered was returned to M$ for a replacement, which they sent to me. Again I was assured the broken device would be destroyed. While it no longer has access to my accounts it could still accept commands from me. I see this logged into my MS Gov Admin account... https://imgur.com/fxeOC30 There is only one possible response to such an afront by another daring to access a device I maintained control over. HAPPY MONDAY MORNING WHEN YOU TRY TO USE IT TOMORROW YOU CHEAP EXCUSE FOR GHANDI... https://imgur.com/iJFX9zu And yes, I have locked the device to prevent their using it again. Good luck using it to provide 'Offshore' customer support in their job tomorrow. |
AdorableLittlepixie
User ID: 78601476 Australia 04/18/2021 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If a GLP meme would have worked in that wee window, I would have put the letsplayit meme. I tend to destroy old phones and my old hard drive currently sits under a large magnet. Your a legend Louis, a real legend. AdorableLittlepixie I am safe and protected with every step I take with everybody always. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79627544 United States 04/18/2021 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, you're like Ron Swanson on "Parks and Rec" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79627544 you're a right-winger who hates the government ... yet ... you work for the .gov , and get a paycheck from the taxpayers ... while bitching about taxes and people getting taxpayer money? got it don't know your tv/vid reference DO know every conservative in government is a treasure you would love Ron Swanson will have to look into this! my sister had a bumper sticker "..... for President" it was some woman who was on that show "Leslie Knope" ? she was the main character, played by Amy Pohler she was head of Parks and Rec, then the mayor |