Derek Chauvin Trial - VERDICT IS IN - Guilty On All Three Counts | |
Man Bear Pig
User ID: 78494304 United States 04/20/2021 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The two who think he should be convicted take issue with Chauvin's actions once Floyd became unresponsive, not really anything before that point. It's kinda where I fall on the matter as well. ya me too, there was no reason to stay on him once he stopped talking and moving... what a dumb ass. He should get manslaughter for that, especially when a crowd was yelling that he isnt moving. He just looked at them and stayed there. BTW, I dont think what he did killed him, but man... Then he should NOT get manslaughter... Right? Why should he get convicted of a crime he did not commit? By your comment and reasoning what could you possibly charge him with? Abuse of a corpse? I guess you are right, but that has to be the most they would object to |
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User ID: 80059982 United States 04/20/2021 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean nevermind between a bunch of carefully selected jurors that are of various races and genders, I've asked 3 Trump voting cops I know what they think about it... two think he should get manslaughter and one thinks he should walk. Quoting: R. Wordsworth Wow, very interesting. I don't know any cops. The two who think he should be convicted take issue with Chauvin's actions once Floyd became unresponsive, not really anything before that point. It's kinda where I fall on the matter as well. Well, it actually makes sense. Once in custody they were responsible for his well being- to whatever extent they were able to be. They should have assessed his condition at a certain point at least, and then what do to before the ambulance came I'm not sure. I was thinking along the lines of something like negligence of a prisoner in custody or failure to render aid. I could be onboard with that. Make sure he is not able to be a cop again. But he's no murderer. |
binskiboy
User ID: 77912490 United States 04/20/2021 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | maybe I missed it -- but -- was it ever discussed during the trial about Chauvin and Floyd working together at the night club ? Quoting: Trump_WON Supposedly they had some problems and didn't get along hard to believe an issue wasn't made of it (or I didn't see it) I belive that was media miss information and redacted binskiboy |
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User ID: 80059982 United States 04/20/2021 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: R. Wordsworth The two who think he should be convicted take issue with Chauvin's actions once Floyd became unresponsive, not really anything before that point. It's kinda where I fall on the matter as well. ya me too, there was no reason to stay on him once he stopped talking and moving... what a dumb ass. He should get manslaughter for that, especially when a crowd was yelling that he isnt moving. He just looked at them and stayed there. BTW, I dont think what he did killed him, but man... Then he should NOT get manslaughter... Right? Why should he get convicted of a crime he did not commit? By your comment and reasoning what could you possibly charge him with? Abuse of a corpse? I guess you are right, but that has to be the most they would object to It's a tough case with HUGE implications... Wouldn't want to be on that jury at all! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79324350 United States 04/20/2021 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The two who think he should be convicted take issue with Chauvin's actions once Floyd became unresponsive, not really anything before that point. Quoting: R. Wordsworth It's kinda where I fall on the matter as well. ya me too, there was no reason to stay on him once he stopped talking and moving... what a dumb ass. He should get manslaughter for that, especially when a crowd was yelling that he isnt moving. He just looked at them and stayed there. BTW, I dont think what he did killed him, but man... I agree. Tend to believe what Dr. Apartheid said... with all the exertion, cardiac issues, adrenaline, and stimulants, there was not enough blood flow and the heart's pacemaker shit out. Thing is if he had received immediate resuscitation attempts there would have been a much better chance of restarting his heart, we'll never know if this would have worked because it wasn't tried. That's where the liability is. |
Reebl
User ID: 78211251 United States 04/20/2021 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Still, there may be one hold out I feel, one voice that won't compromise the truth just for the sake of "peace and safety, or a book deal" Last Edited by Reebl on 04/20/2021 01:16 PM There is no fortune to be gained by a cure, there is however a great deal of profit to be made from treatments. ~Mark Twain If you want to live forever, live a life worth remembering. ~Bruce Lee You will find something in everything if you are looking everywhere for a thing. ~Reebl |
Corporal Punishment
User ID: 24262777 United States 04/20/2021 01:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean nevermind between a bunch of carefully selected jurors that are of various races and genders, I've asked 3 Trump voting cops I know what they think about it... two think he should get manslaughter and one thinks he should walk. Quoting: R. Wordsworth Wow, very interesting. I don't know any cops. The two who think he should be convicted take issue with Chauvin's actions once Floyd became unresponsive, not really anything before that point. It's kinda where I fall on the matter as well. ya me too, there was no reason to stay on him once he stopped talking and moving... what a dumb ass. He should get manslaughter for that, especially when a crowd was yelling that he isnt moving. He just looked at them and stayed there. BTW, I dont think what he did killed him, but man... I disagree. If Floyd was dead then the charges would have to be abusing a corpse, or not rendering aid. But the charges are that Chauvin’s actions killed him. I agree that it is possible Chauvin should have rendered aid. But is not rendering aid a crime in this case? What if he was worried about the crowd? What if he thought rendering aid was best done by EMS, which he expected to already be there? The EMS didn’t think it was safe to render aid in those circumstances. So why should the cops? The not rendering aid aspect doesn’t feel right to me instinctively. But I can see how the way things happened might have been justified. Looking back in hindsight makes it easy to criticize. I found watching one of the officers who was in Floyd’s back entire body cam footage made the actions seem less problematic in context. |
BBQ BOY™
(OP) User ID: 72493816 United States 04/20/2021 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just thought of something, what if they deliberate 9 hours and 29 minutes to prove a point? Just tossing it out here, "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
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Interferon
User ID: 76790707 United States 04/20/2021 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean nevermind between a bunch of carefully selected jurors that are of various races and genders, I've asked 3 Trump voting cops I know what they think about it... two think he should get manslaughter and one thinks he should walk. Quoting: R. Wordsworth Wow, very interesting. I don't know any cops. The two who think he should be convicted take issue with Chauvin's actions once Floyd became unresponsive, not really anything before that point. It's kinda where I fall on the matter as well. Yeah, not calling EMS when someone you have in handcuffs is unconscious is unreasonable. There aren't really any good guys in this whole caper. As such, I'm indifferent to the outcome. Other than the country burning down. |
Wharf Rat
User ID: 79386534 United States 04/20/2021 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just wanted to add that Officer Chauvin might be going to prison regardless of the verdict for other pending charges... Thread: Derek Chauvin Charged with Nine Counts of Felony Tax Fraud Just a heads up :/ Thanks again for your hard work, sir. It is very much appreciated. Last Edited by Wharf Rat on 04/20/2021 01:20 PM ~Wharf Rat |
Don Draper from Nantucket
User ID: 57553864 United States 04/20/2021 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BBQ Boy: First of all, thank you sincerely for your comprehensive coverage of this trial. Secondly, feel free to delete this post-- I'm not trying to derail this thread on arguably one of the most important days of the trial. Quoting: Wharf Rat I just wanted to add that Officer Chauvin might be going to prison regardless of the verdict for other pending charges... Thread: Derek Chauvin Charged with Nine Counts of Felony Tax Fraud Just a heads up :/ Thanks again for your hard work, sir. It is very much appreciated. PLATA BITCHEZZZZZZ UPGRADE UNAVAILABLE The Rolling Stones said it best... "What's confusing you is the nature of my game" |
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Wharf Rat
User ID: 79386534 United States 04/20/2021 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just thought of something, what if they deliberate 9 hours and 29 minutes to prove a point? Just tossing it out here, Quoting: BBQ BOY™ Does the state buy them meals during deliberations? Gotta think if they go past lunch, at the very least they will go until dinner. I think they do, actually. (Provide food/lodging) At the taxpayers' expense, of course ~Wharf Rat |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79324350 United States 04/20/2021 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, not calling EMS when someone you have in handcuffs is unconscious is unreasonable. Quoting: Interferon There aren't really any good guys in this whole caper. As such, I'm indifferent to the outcome. Other than the country burning down. They had EMS already on the way, well before he was unconscious. |
BBQ BOY™
(OP) User ID: 72493816 United States 04/20/2021 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just thought of something, what if they deliberate 9 hours and 29 minutes to prove a point? Just tossing it out here, Quoting: BBQ BOY™ Does the state buy them meals during deliberations? Gotta think if they go past lunch, at the very least they will go until dinner. Yes I think they get meals catered to them. "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
MaximusRex
User ID: 79476411 United States 04/20/2021 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean nevermind between a bunch of carefully selected jurors that are of various races and genders, I've asked 3 Trump voting cops I know what they think about it... two think he should get manslaughter and one thinks he should walk. Quoting: R. Wordsworth Wow, very interesting. I don't know any cops. The two who think he should be convicted take issue with Chauvin's actions once Floyd became unresponsive, not really anything before that point. It's kinda where I fall on the matter as well. Yeah, not calling EMS when someone you have in handcuffs is unconscious is unreasonable. There aren't really any good guys in this whole caper. As such, I'm indifferent to the outcome. Other than the country burning down. EMS was called long before he went unconscious. As matter of fact EMS was called in due to a mouth injury before they even placed him on the ground. |
MaximusRex
User ID: 79476411 United States 04/20/2021 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The two who think he should be convicted take issue with Chauvin's actions once Floyd became unresponsive, not really anything before that point. It's kinda where I fall on the matter as well. Yeah, not calling EMS when someone you have in handcuffs is unconscious is unreasonable. There aren't really any good guys in this whole caper. As such, I'm indifferent to the outcome. Other than the country burning down. EMS was called long before he went unconscious. As matter of fact EMS was called in due to a mouth injury before they even placed him on the ground. Dispatch was contacted again to upgrade it to a high level once he was placed on the ground. |
Corporal Punishment
User ID: 24262777 United States 04/20/2021 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BBQ Boy: First of all, thank you sincerely for your comprehensive coverage of this trial. Secondly, feel free to delete this post-- I'm not trying to derail this thread on arguably one of the most important days of the trial. Quoting: Wharf Rat I just wanted to add that Officer Chauvin might be going to prison regardless of the verdict for other pending charges... Thread: Derek Chauvin Charged with Nine Counts of Felony Tax Fraud Just a heads up :/ Thanks again for your hard work, sir. It is very much appreciated. I saw that. At first I thought this was just the government going after him. But maybe it comes from his divorce proceedings? The wife wanted a divorce so taxes come into play. There is a question of why go after him on taxes now. Why did this dummy not file taxes when he has a job where they report his income to the government? Attorney Robert Barnes pointed out the failure to file may indicate this was a corrupt cop. I think Chauvin isn’t a great guy and shouldn’t be a cop. But the charges against him are still bogus. |
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Henry Clemons
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SonyaDV
User ID: 80064536 United States 04/20/2021 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean nevermind between a bunch of carefully selected jurors that are of various races and genders, I've asked 3 Trump voting cops I know what they think about it... two think he should get manslaughter and one thinks he should walk. Quoting: R. Wordsworth Wow, very interesting. I don't know any cops. The two who think he should be convicted take issue with Chauvin's actions once Floyd became unresponsive, not really anything before that point. It's kinda where I fall on the matter as well. Yeah, not calling EMS when someone you have in handcuffs is unconscious is unreasonable. There aren't really any good guys in this whole caper. As such, I'm indifferent to the outcome. Other than the country burning down. Hadn't that already been done and that's what they were waiting on? I agree that there are really no sympathetic characters here. I just like to follow trials, true crime, the bizarreness of people's thought processes and the unreal sociology of our time. SonyaDV |
Interferon
User ID: 76790707 United States 04/20/2021 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, not calling EMS when someone you have in handcuffs is unconscious is unreasonable. Quoting: Interferon There aren't really any good guys in this whole caper. As such, I'm indifferent to the outcome. Other than the country burning down. They had EMS already on the way, well before he was unconscious. In that case, he'll probably get acquitted. |
MaximusRex
User ID: 79476411 United States 04/20/2021 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, not calling EMS when someone you have in handcuffs is unconscious is unreasonable. Quoting: Interferon There aren't really any good guys in this whole caper. As such, I'm indifferent to the outcome. Other than the country burning down. They had EMS already on the way, well before he was unconscious. Yes-- dispatched twice. One thing I didnt see much mention is that this was May 2020. I'm not sure how much Covid protocols fall into dealing with this situation. Either way, I always found it odd there wasnt much concern why he was so quiet after 10 minutes of physical struggle. I mean 3 people battled this guy, and then not a peep. Whether thats a contributor to a crime in itself is another discussion... Last Edited by MaximusRex on 04/20/2021 01:27 PM |
Refreshing Hoot
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Henry Clemons
User ID: 79377990 Denmark 04/20/2021 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, not calling EMS when someone you have in handcuffs is unconscious is unreasonable. Quoting: Interferon There aren't really any good guys in this whole caper. As such, I'm indifferent to the outcome. Other than the country burning down. They had EMS already on the way, well before he was unconscious. But, with a Manslaughter Conviction, he'll be out in a week. . |
SonyaDV
User ID: 80064536 United States 04/20/2021 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, not calling EMS when someone you have in handcuffs is unconscious is unreasonable. Quoting: Interferon There aren't really any good guys in this whole caper. As such, I'm indifferent to the outcome. Other than the country burning down. They had EMS already on the way, well before he was unconscious. Yes-- dispatched twice. One thing I didnt see much mention is that this was May 2020. I'm not sure how much Covid protocols fall into dealing with this situation. Either way, I always found it odd there wasnt much concern why he was so quiet after 10 minutes of physical struggle. I mean 3 people battled this guy, and then not a peep. Whether thats a contributor to a crime in itself is another discussion... Right. Those protocols weren't even discussed at the trial, were they? All that was concentrated on was the knee and perhaps the position he was kept in- but no one talked about what measures would have been appropriate if Floyd had been assessed at that point and found to be not breathing. SonyaDV |
BBQ BOY™
(OP) User ID: 72493816 United States 04/20/2021 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | https://twitter.com/_/status/1384560149180866561 "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |