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document 107 pages

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So... everything that can possibly be a "receiver" now is and needs serialized...


Hmmmm....


how's this for a thought folks. They LOVE their paperwork.. how bout 3.5 million folks around the country start serializing ALL of their shit that could be construed as a "receiver".. You pickin up what I am putting down?

I think the ATF needs about 3.5 million people sending forms to have 20 things serialized each..

Literally tons of paperwork.. lets get them BUSY!
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I just posted a thread about this.

Its ridiculous. And nobody is going to comply.

This is what 2A is all about. The ATF is way out of line, and they know it. Buncha commies.
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For awareness.

The ATF needs to be defunded and dismantled
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Hmm .I wonder if this applies to the armed criminals boarding busses that went to Minneapolis from all over the USA yesterday?
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The COVID vaccine is the Mark of the Beast
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second amendment

use it or lose it

awww

too late bitch
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So... everything that can possibly be a "receiver" now is and needs serialized...


Hmmmm....


how's this for a thought folks. They LOVE their paperwork.. how bout 3.5 million folks around the country start serializing ALL of their shit that could be construed as a "receiver".. You pickin up what I am putting down?

I think the ATF needs about 3.5 million people sending forms to have 20 things serialized each..

Literally tons of paperwork.. lets get them BUSY!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80254080


just random shit like birch wood blocks and broom handles
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second amendment

use it or lose it

awww

too late bitch
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78676893




too late?

the party is just getting started.

moshpit
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Yea it was funny I explained to some Australians the other day what the second amendment was really for. They thought it was for hunting/pest control like the guns are for here. Nope! It’s purely about overthrowing a tyrannical government! They were awestruck
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What's up with the word SHALL

SHALL not BE INFRINGED

Larkin Rose says the constitution is the basis for the corruption, extortion, etc. Take a look

Who needs a fucking piece of paper to be able to own a personal protection device given by the Creator?



Read this: [link to larkenrose.com]
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Yea it was funny I explained to some Australians the other day what the second amendment was really for. They thought it was for hunting/pest control like the guns are for here. Nope! It’s purely about overthrowing a tyrannical government! They were awestruck
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I literally says it.. I think the Government wants that though. So they can have an excuse to kill whitey.
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Like to actual docs?

Not some youtube video.
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second amendment

use it or lose it

awww

too late bitch
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78676893




too late?

the party is just getting started.

moshpit
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the party where all the constitution believers get wasted
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Like to actual docs?

Not some youtube video.
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It was in the link the OP provided


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2nd amendment is about to become just an amendment
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Using an analogy, wouldn't this be the equivalent of saying anyone having certain plumbing supplies could be considered being in possession of Bxmb making materials?

Or am I making more of it than I should?
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second amendment

use it or lose it

awww

too late bitch
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Not too late. There are more firearms in private hands (that are known of) than the entire population of the USA. Over 500 million.

If they ever attempt confiscation on a mass scale... which really they don't even have the logistics to do (to transport/store/destroy), then enforcement starts breaking into people's homes.... people will get shot (on both sides) These people have families and the shit will go hot.
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second amendment

use it or lose it

awww

too late bitch
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78676893


Not too late. There are more firearms in private hands (that are known of) than the entire population of the USA. Over 500 million.

If they ever attempt confiscation on a mass scale... which really they don't even have the logistics to do (to transport/store/destroy), then enforcement starts breaking into people's homes.... people will get shot (on both sides) These people have families and the shit will go hot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48108768


To add - I know alot of people who will just not comply. Over a dozen states have already begun process to create 2nd Amendment Sanctuary States. It is an approach that one of our country's founding fathers, James Madison, openly stressed... states should push back on over reach of the Federal Govt. AND there is legal precedent for this given we are a republic, and the liberals earlier set up sanctuaries for things like illegal immigration, marijuana, etc. opposing federal statutes in many states.
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If someone posts addresses of those trying to do this, along with the cops in your hood, this shit ends. I seriously think that is all it would take, they think they are untouchable, everyone sleeps at some point,most have families. Bear in mind they are willing to burn your house down and kill your wife and children, they have a history of doing this
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You can read and understand the 2nd amendment, right.

So fuck them and Godspeed!

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Yea it was funny I explained to some Australians the other day what the second amendment was really for. They thought it was for hunting/pest control like the guns are for here. Nope! It’s purely about overthrowing a tyrannical government! They were awestruck
 Quoting: Lover_Girl



I literally says it.. I think the Government wants that though. So they can have an excuse to kill whitey.
 Quoting: Evil Lincoln


Not just whitey...and those that remain will wish otherwise by then. If these fucktards are allowed to continue unfettered of course.
Within the surreal depths of "reality" lies the truth.
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All of these alphabet agencies have become enemies of the people.
All billionaires, banksters, and people in high-ranking positions of power (both public and private) who have not openly and strongly come out against woke ideology and globalism are our enemies - as are their minions. They are the NWO.
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:hemightberight:
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These courts’ interpretation of ATF’s regulations, if broadly followed, could
mean that as many as 90 percent of all firearms now in the United States would not havean identifiable frame or receiver.12
Those firearms would include numerous widely
available models, such as Glock-type and Sig Sauer P32013 pistols, that do not utilize a
hammer – a named component – in the firing sequence[/b]. Such a narrow interpretation of
what constitutes a frame or receiver would also allow persons to avoid: (a) obtaining a
license to engage in the business of manufacturing or importing upper or lower frames or
receivers
; (b) identifying upper or lower frames or receivers with a serial number and
other traceable markings; (c) maintaining records of upper or lower frames or receivers
produced or imported through which they can be traced; and (d) running National Instant
Criminal Background Check System (“NICS”) checks on potential transferees to
determine if they are legally prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms when they
acquire upper or lower frames or receivers. In turn, this would allow prohibited persons
to acquire upper and lower receivers that can quickly be assembled into semiautomatic
weapons more easily and without a background check.
14 If no portion of split/multi-piece
frames or receivers were subject to any existing regulations, such as marking,
recordkeeping, or background checks, law enforcement’s ability to trace semiautomatic
firearms later used in crime would be severely impeded. This result would thereby undermine the intent of Congress in requiring the “major parts” of every firearm to beidentified, see 18 U.S.C. 923(i), and regulated as a firearm, see 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(3)(B).15


essentially 90% of guns would be illegal now!!!
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second amendment

use it or lose it

awww

too late bitch
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too late?

the party is just getting started.

moshpit
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the party where all the constitution believers get wasted
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78676893


Good try.. but no.
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All of these alphabet agencies have become enemies of the people.
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^^THIS^^ Times 10
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First couple of minutes he mentions "unlicensed manufacturers".

There is NO SUCH THING as an "unlicensed manufacturer". Under the Law NOW, if a person is manufacturing firearms for sale without a Federal License, he is committing a crime. So he is a "criminal" not an "unlicensed manufacturer".

Under the Law NOW, a person can legally make a firearm for his personal use. He must keep it and not sell it. The firearm must be marked with his name and place it was made, i.e., "Joe Bloe, Wilson, KS".

If a person wants to take a piece of aluminum and machine it into an AR-15 type receiver, then assemble a parts kit on it, he can do that. It is legal as long as he marks it as above. If he wants to take another block of aluminum and machine it into an AR-10 type receiver and assemble a parts kit on it, he can do that too. The above applies.

Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.

A Person may make all the firearms he wants for personal use under the above guidelines, however, only one copy of each different gun he makes. He must NEVER sell them.

Now ATF wants to change the definition of "receiver" and make the upper half of an AR type rifle into the serialized part, the "firearm", instead of the lower. Change the primary thing they have been regulating for over fifty years. Yeah, that makes sense. Now your AR is two firearms, instead of one.

How about this... If you buy a new barrel and install it, the barrel must have a serial number on it also. Is the barrel now a "firearm"? Who is responsible for serializing all these individual parts? The parts maker, who doesn't manufacture "firearms", or the end user who installs them?

Does all this sound like nonsense? It is nonsense. These "gun control" laws are nonsense.

All this junk talk about "Ghost Guns" is nonsense.

The agenda is about CONTROL.

It is "People Control", not "Gun Control".
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rules arent laws, see you in court commies
"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."

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-George Washington, Father of our country & 1st President
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The COVID vaccine is the Mark of the Beast
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bsflagbsflagbsflagbsflagbsflag

Because there’s no triple 6 involved with the vaccine.
It’s clear the mark has triple 6s.
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