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Thomas Bearden: Pulling Energy from the Vacuum

 
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There IS energy in the vacuum. Actually there is energy all around right now. Virtual particles pop in and out of existence constantly in the quantum foam. Trillions of them every second in a cubic centimeter of space.

However, the energy you get out of tapping even a huge area of space by using the Casimir effect is tiny. Very, very tiny.

Even if you somehow tapped the energy directly, say, by pulling electrons out as they pop up is incredibly small. You couldn’t even power a digital watch with it for more than a few centiseconds.

Sorry.
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Bearden and his colleagues supposedly built a "Zero Point energy" extraction device called the MEG (Motionless Electromagnetic Generator) years ago.

You never hear about it now, though.

(((They))) probably got to him.

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I studied this tech for a while, before 1954 the encyclopedias had all kinds of information on it, after that year: none. So go find pre-1954s for your fill.
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Space apart from any contents within it is pure static, potential. Extraction and conversion produces kinetic expression that is time. Time also transposes back into existence as space. Time (kinetic) and space (potential) transpose back and forth the same as electrical power transposes current (kinetic) and voltage (potential) back and forth.
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Space apart from any contents within it is pure static, potential. Extraction and conversion produces kinetic expression that is time. Time also transposes back into existence as space. Time (kinetic) and space (potential) transpose back and forth the same as electrical power transposes current (kinetic) and voltage (potential) back and forth.
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It's the Luminiferous Aether, which is making a big comeback among rogue physicists.

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what vacuum? there isn't any.
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There is no zero point.

The pit is bottomless.
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what vacuum? there isn't any.
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if there is energy there is no vacuum. the ethers are not a vacuum.. there isn't even any ethers either.. space is not a vacuum either .. if it was there would be no suns or planets... they could not form.
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what vacuum? there isn't any.
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if there is energy there is no vacuum. the ethers are not a vacuum.. there isn't even any ethers either.. space is not a vacuum either .. if it was there would be no suns or planets... they could not form.
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


"Suns" and "planets" are simply luminaries in the firmament.

You're a Super Ascended Master, like Gayvid Edgar RaCock.

You should know this.

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There are many embodiments of the same concept. If you believe we exist in a hyper-dimensional construct then you will also realize that we are not in a closed system, therefore the laws of thermodynamics are not violated by extracting energy from the active vacuum and have machines that produce more energy that they consume.

I got started here in 1997.

[link to jnaudin.free.fr]

This will give you an overview of most of the inventions and ideas that are concerned with the term zero point energy extraction. Over the years they have either died (some mysteriously some naturally), been threatened to stop, faded away into anonymity, disappeared or went seemingly insane(Joseph Newman).


I played with several of them. The only one I was ever able to get to do something I thought was close was the Newman motor. Fascinating.....I wound a stator coil with 6 miles of #28 wire on a 5 gallon paint bucket mounted on a wooden frame and rotor with a ball bearing supported PCV axle and 6 1"x 2" x .5" neodymium magnets, 3 on each end. On the extended axle I mounted a variable angle centrifugal commutator and a belt driven small motor/ generator with a 1 Ohm resistive load.

I used a Variac autotransformer to feed an old neon sign transformer that had a center tap, then half wave rectified and filtered each of the split secondary outputs. The motor ran at +/-1KV. I would initially set the commutation angle orthogonal to the coil, given the high back-EMF on such a large winding that yielded only about 80 RPM. By slowly advancing the commutation angle to almost 180 degrees I could achieve 600 RPM.

The end result:

The motor/generator produced about 1 watt of power into the resistor and the rotor pushed as much air as a ceiling fan on medium. The AC mains input power was approximately 5 watts. For such a crudely constructed motor with a 5 lb rotor turning at 600 RPMs and extracting 1 watt of power I was amazed.....I forgot to mention I stood 4 2' fluorescent tubes next to the motor and it would light them to about half intensity.

I believe that many of the inventors were honest men and not scammers. Some were mistaken about the actual energy output of their machines others were absolutely not.

A great deal of information has long since been scrubbed.
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That would imply that the vacuum is not in a ground state (the minimum energy state). If vacuum's not in the ground state, it could collapse there any moment. That would mean the destruction of the universe. It's called the Great Rip.

Since we are here, it is empirical evidence for the universe being in the ground state. You cannot extract work (energy) from a system in its ground state.

Hence, the video is BS.
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There IS energy in the vacuum. Actually there is energy all around right now. Virtual particles pop in and out of existence constantly in the quantum foam. Trillions of them every second in a cubic centimeter of space.

However, the energy you get out of tapping even a huge area of space by using the Casimir effect is tiny. Very, very tiny.

Even if you somehow tapped the energy directly, say, by pulling electrons out as they pop up is incredibly small. You couldn’t even power a digital watch with it for more than a few centiseconds.

Sorry.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76695796


One quick reminder. Although the math works out there are virtual particles we don't actually KNOW what happens during these periods, as they are too small to be observed.

Feynman proves that ALL possible virtual interactions between particles must be modeled to get a 100% accurate prediction of actual effects, but this clearly shows us that the model is probably inaccurate, or reality is VERY weird at that scale (both possible).

So "Virtual Particles" are just physicists hand-waving away the fact we don't have direct observations to work with.

It's entirely possible that something else is happening at those scales...we just don't know.

Until we can actually observe the interactions we're just doing our best and guessing.

The bottom line is we cannot make absolute rules for these interactions...we can model the outcomes using our tools very well, but the orbits of planets were modeled very well before modern math made the more understandable and accurate.

I think we're missing something at this scale...the new MUON-2 experiments point to it. If those experiments are confirmed to the proper sigma, we've missed entire particles in the standard model. If the standard model is missing chunks, then these "virtual particles" are also a symptom of this.
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There are many embodiments of the same concept. If you believe we exist in a hyper-dimensional construct then you will also realize that we are not in a closed system, therefore the laws of thermodynamics are not violated by extracting energy from the active vacuum and have machines that produce more energy that they consume.

I got started here in 1997.

[link to jnaudin.free.fr]

This will give you an overview of most of the inventions and ideas that are concerned with the term zero point energy extraction. Over the years they have either died (some mysteriously some naturally), been threatened to stop, faded away into anonymity, disappeared or went seemingly insane(Joseph Newman).


I played with several of them. The only one I was ever able to get to do something I thought was close was the Newman motor. Fascinating.....I wound a stator coil with 6 miles of #28 wire on a 5 gallon paint bucket mounted on a wooden frame and rotor with a ball bearing supported PCV axle and 6 1"x 2" x .5" neodymium magnets, 3 on each end. On the extended axle I mounted a variable angle centrifugal commutator and a belt driven small motor/ generator with a 1 Ohm resistive load.

I used a Variac autotransformer to feed an old neon sign transformer that had a center tap, then half wave rectified and filtered each of the split secondary outputs. The motor ran at +/-1KV. I would initially set the commutation angle orthogonal to the coil, given the high back-EMF on such a large winding that yielded only about 80 RPM. By slowly advancing the commutation angle to almost 180 degrees I could achieve 600 RPM.

The end result:

The motor/generator produced about 1 watt of power into the resistor and the rotor pushed as much air as a ceiling fan on medium. The AC mains input power was approximately 5 watts. For such a crudely constructed motor with a 5 lb rotor turning at 600 RPMs and extracting 1 watt of power I was amazed.....I forgot to mention I stood 4 2' fluorescent tubes next to the motor and it would light them to about half intensity.

I believe that many of the inventors were honest men and not scammers. Some were mistaken about the actual energy output of their machines others were absolutely not.

A great deal of information has long since been scrubbed.
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Tell us MOAR!

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There IS energy in the vacuum. Actually there is energy all around right now. Virtual particles pop in and out of existence constantly in the quantum foam. Trillions of them every second in a cubic centimeter of space.

However, the energy you get out of tapping even a huge area of space by using the Casimir effect is tiny. Very, very tiny.

Even if you somehow tapped the energy directly, say, by pulling electrons out as they pop up is incredibly small. You couldn’t even power a digital watch with it for more than a few centiseconds.

Sorry.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76695796


One quick reminder. Although the math works out there are virtual particles we don't actually KNOW what happens during these periods, as they are too small to be observed.

Feynman proves that ALL possible virtual interactions between particles must be modeled to get a 100% accurate prediction of actual effects, but this clearly shows us that the model is probably inaccurate, or reality is VERY weird at that scale (both possible).

So "Virtual Particles" are just physicists hand-waving away the fact we don't have direct observations to work with.

It's entirely possible that something else is happening at those scales...we just don't know.

Until we can actually observe the interactions we're just doing our best and guessing.

The bottom line is we cannot make absolute rules for these interactions...we can model the outcomes using our tools very well, but the orbits of planets were modeled very well before modern math made the more understandable and accurate.

I think we're missing something at this scale...the new MUON-2 experiments point to it. If those experiments are confirmed to the proper sigma, we've missed entire particles in the standard model. If the standard model is missing chunks, then these "virtual particles" are also a symptom of this.
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There are no such things as "virtual particles", and Feynman was a self-promoting carnie barker who couldn't even explain how fucking magnets work.

Ken Wheeler can explain magnetism, and has done at great length.

drevil
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I wound a stator coil with 6 miles of #28 wire on a 5 gallon paint bucket

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BWAHAHA !!!!

6 fucking miles of wire ????


LMFAO !!!

28 gauge copper wire weighs 1# per 2000 feet.

Now, figure out what 6 fucking miles would weigh.

Hell, try to wrap 6 FEET of wire around a 5 gallon bucket.

6 fucking miles....

yeah
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bump
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what vacuum? there isn't any.
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


if there is energy there is no vacuum. the ethers are not a vacuum.. there isn't even any ethers either.. space is not a vacuum either .. if it was there would be no suns or planets... they could not form.
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


"Suns" and "planets" are simply luminaries in the firmament.

You're a Super Ascended Master, like Gayvid Edgar RaCock.

You should know this.

drevil
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I KNOW and you are not correct. Amongst other things suns generate matter. they are not in any firmament,..This is extreme ignorance and I am beyond super ascended master and any real ascended master knows what suns are. there are NOT just shining spots in space. You would not have life on this planet without its orbiting a life generating supporting sun and you benefit daily from the matter it extends into the solar system.. like calcium.. Calcium is essential in space.. it helps form planets in fact.
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Space apart from any contents within it is pure static, potential. Extraction and conversion produces kinetic expression that is time. Time also transposes back into existence as space. Time (kinetic) and space (potential) transpose back and forth the same as electrical power transposes current (kinetic) and voltage (potential) back and forth.
 Quoting: tkwasny


It's the Luminiferous Aether, which is making a big comeback among rogue physicists.

drevil
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Yes of course it is.

Keep the Einstinean math, but forget relativity.


All lies fall apart under the weight of subsequent lies needed to support them.

This is why the masses are misled with Einstein, they are taught the atomic theory of tremendous energy contained in the atom itself. The atoms are held place in the aether.
Tesla was right, the future is his.
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In my signature "One Truth....many realities", I reveal the basis for my world view. I define Truth as "The way things are even in the absence of a consciousness to interpret it". Each of us through the composite of our senses, memory and cognitive functions arrive at an interpretation of our existence....This forms our reality and does not necessarily
represent "TRUTH".

Many people in these times, even some scientists believe we create everything with our consciousness, and thus collapsing the quantum probability wave to manifest our existence. Obviously there are a great many questions that mankind does not have an answer for. The ones who are so arrogant to think they know the Truth when it is only their reality should have a bit more doubt in themselves. IMHO
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I wound a stator coil with 6 miles of #28 wire on a 5 gallon paint bucket

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BWAHAHA !!!!

6 fucking miles of wire ????


LMFAO !!!

28 gauge copper wire weighs 1# per 2000 feet.

Now, figure out what 6 fucking miles would weigh.

Hell, try to wrap 6 FEET of wire around a 5 gallon bucket.

6 fucking miles....

yeah
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Considering the circumference of a 5 gallon bucket is around 36" 6 FEET of wire would be a whopping 2 loops around.
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Nooooo! Don't use ZPE!!! it is the spiritual essence of people, If you encourage it now, you will be all eaten up when you arrive on the spiritual plane :)
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There IS energy in the vacuum. Actually there is energy all around right now. Virtual particles pop in and out of existence constantly in the quantum foam. Trillions of them every second in a cubic centimeter of space.

However, the energy you get out of tapping even a huge area of space by using the Casimir effect is tiny. Very, very tiny.

Even if you somehow tapped the energy directly, say, by pulling electrons out as they pop up is incredibly small. You couldn’t even power a digital watch with it for more than a few centiseconds.

Sorry.
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CERN Creates the Energy of The Big Bang itself.
But the Unit Area of the event is so tiny that
noone would even know it happened.

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long on words, short on results
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what vacuum? there isn't any.
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


if there is energy there is no vacuum. the ethers are not a vacuum.. there isn't even any ethers either.. space is not a vacuum either .. if it was there would be no suns or planets... they could not form.
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


"Suns" and "planets" are simply luminaries in the firmament.

You're a Super Ascended Master, like Gayvid Edgar RaCock.

You should know this.

drevil
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Indeed, All is 1 etc. Is Down-sended.
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Cold Fusion is real.
The problem is that there isn't enough of it happening in
order to harness it.

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There IS energy in the vacuum. Actually there is energy all around right now. Virtual particles pop in and out of existence constantly in the quantum foam. Trillions of them every second in a cubic centimeter of space.

However, the energy you get out of tapping even a huge area of space by using the Casimir effect is tiny. Very, very tiny.

Even if you somehow tapped the energy directly, say, by pulling electrons out as they pop up is incredibly small. You couldn’t even power a digital watch with it for more than a few centiseconds.

Sorry.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76695796


CERN Creates the Energy of The Big Bang itself.
But the Unit Area of the event is so tiny that
noone would even know it happened.

.
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really now.. so this short lived Cern on this planet does that for the entire massive creation... You have a ways to go in your education. There never was a big bang.... but various celestial beings do initiate in space when its TIME.. the start up of a new universe. all 700,000 of them predicted in past time ARE initiated and growing. They are initiated one at a time as space conditions are ready for such.
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... and I am beyond super ascended master and any real ascended master knows what suns are.
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Guys, I found somebody who's chowsen to tell us the Truth!

Finally!
Thank you ALL IS blabla.
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You been to the sun to take a look what it is?
What equipment did you use?
How far from Urf is it?
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There IS energy in the vacuum. Actually there is energy all around right now. Virtual particles pop in and out of existence constantly in the quantum foam. Trillions of them every second in a cubic centimeter of space.

However, the energy you get out of tapping even a huge area of space by using the Casimir effect is tiny. Very, very tiny.

Even if you somehow tapped the energy directly, say, by pulling electrons out as they pop up is incredibly small. You couldn’t even power a digital watch with it for more than a few centiseconds.

Sorry.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76695796


CERN Creates the Energy of The Big Bang itself.
But the Unit Area of the event is so tiny that
noone would even know it happened.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 801 60124


really now.. so this short lived Cern on this planet does that for the entire massive creation... You have a ways to go in your education. There never was a big bang.... but various celestial beings do initiate in space when its TIME.. the start up of a new universe. all 700,000 of them predicted in past time ARE initiated and growing. They are initiated one at a time as space conditions are ready for such.
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You, sir, are a simpleton.

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